enthalpy is a measurement of heat energy in a chemical reaction that is released or absorbed. It is a chemistry term...

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Here is an interesting link showing all of their recycling centers!

http://www.co.ocean.nj.us/downloads/2005rdirectory.pdf

Here is an interesting link of class B recyling centers that is mostly organic waste from construction Debrie. Ocean Recycling Center from Toms River is a class B recyling center.

New Jersey has room to grow for additional ethonal plants when you compare it to the Midwest. I expect the 300 million ethonal plant will be one of these recyling centers in the class B or class C.

Class B

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/lrm/classb.htm

Class C

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/dshw/rrtp/classcfc.htm

In order to determine which recyling center it may be....the center should have about 6 times more capacity than the Toms River. It may be trial and error, but if someone would take the time and call around after doing a search. One can probably determine where the site is....If you read the basic permits approved by the New Jersey Environmental Regulations...They mention equipment useage and daily or weekly maximum tons of Class B and C waste. That will help filter out and narrow the selection for the recyling centers.

Does anybody know where the 300 million gallon ethonal plant might be located. If this is the basic railroad paths for the NE.

http://www.thecollaborative.com/ManageNECorridorEvalhtml.htm

Toms River, NJ has very limited E85:15 blended gasoline available. This means that FFI has a good location to take advantage of the trend as ethonal markets expand.


7 Ethanol 85% (E85) Refueling Station(s) Found
Around: Toms River, NJ
Within Radius: 100 Mile(s)


Miles Id Name Phone Address City State Zip Type of Access
40 278 Roggen Farmers Elevator 303-644-3251 555 Colfax Avenue Bennett CO 8010 Public - credit card at all times
44 33 DSNY Staten Island - 2 212-487-6818 2500 Richmond Avenue Staten Island NY 10314 Private - government only
45 28 DSNY Brooklyn - 11 212-487-6818 1824 Shore Parkway Brooklyn NY 12214 Private - government only
55 30 DSNY Queens - 5A 212-487-6818 58-02 48th Street Masapeth NY 11378 Private - government only
59 29 DSNY Queens - 7 212-487-6818 120-15 31st Avenue College Point NY 11354 Private - government only
63 32 DSNY Bronx - 6A 212-487-6818 800 E 176th Street New York NY 10460 Private - government only
65 31 DSNY Manhattan - 12 212-487-6818 301 W 215th Street New York NY 10034 Private - government only

This is a good costs comparison report between ethonal and gasoline cost per gallon.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/resources/pricereport/pdfs/afpr_09_01_05.pdf

Here is a link of existing vechiles that can run off of 85:15 blend of ethanol/gasoline sold in the US markets.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/progs/search_type.cgi?1/E85_GSLN

In addition, here is a link showing the fuel stations that offer E85 blends...most are in the midwest. It looks like California will have to import all of their ethonal which will cost $$$$$$$$.

http://afdcmap.nrel.gov/locator/LocateResult.asp

This is a good government site for information.

http://www.eere.energy.gov/

That is the first time Patrick has sent an email like that technoman. Speaks with confidence....I wonder what kind of progress has been made on the Nuclear Detection?

As long as NSOL is at that March, 2006 Nevada test site I will be happy. If the company wins the multibillion dollar contract then we will all be very happy. I wonder who NSOL will partner with for the Nuclear Detection System.

They talk about raising capital. I think you are right technoman that they will spin off FFI to raise the capital to rush their commercialization efforts. QUestion is when will they spin it off.....I do not think it will happen in January.

I just got back after a long vacation. I am glad the TWR patent has been published. I have alot of work to do, but I will take some time in the next few days and review it.

Well, thank you for the sharing of information. May everybody have a safe and good christmas. I am leaving on a 2-3 week vacation and will not have access to the internet. I look forward to the annoucement of the 300 million gallon ethonal plant early next year.

Enthalpy

5 years that is a tough question...but I think if NSOL did a 4 shares of NSOL you get 1 share of FFI that would be about 10 million shares. If the authorizable is lets say 100 million shares for FFI, NSOL can assign itself 51 million to retain control of FFI. If FFI has a low float of lets say 10 million shares at an IPO of let say $25-35 per share. The remaining shares can be used for FFI expansion.


If FFI can produce lets say 600 million in profits divided by 60 million shares O/S that is $10 profit per share. Multiple the PE by lets say 10 and that is about $100 per share. A market cap of around 6 billion dollars. IF NSOL owns 51% of FFI NSOL will go up as well due to the equity. PLus FFI will raise between 250-350 million in capital.

Therefore you will beable to get free shares owning NSOL and a demand will be big once the spin off is annouced.

This is an estimated guess of what could happen if all 5 plants are up in running and one is 300 million gallons.

OT-Technoman. Do you think FFI will set up a huge plant in Southern California? The state runs all of the sewage into the ocean year round. That is why you can swim only on certain days otherwise you maty risk getting sick. I think this would be an opportunity.

How large do you think the other ethonal plants will be?


Enthalpy

Thanks Ice for sharing!

Can somebody please forward this to Patrick Herda. I have tried 3 times and the message I think has not gone through because of the anti spam protection for NSOL's website.

This is an important meeting that NSOL should attend for potential licensee contacts for their technologies. There is still time to apply for free.

http://www.wbtshowcase.com/wbt/wbt06web.nsf/pages/index.html

Enthalpy

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Ice-which radio shows is NSOL being talked about on the air?

I thought the stock would move up once NSOL recieves the funding. Apporval versus having the cash in hand. I hope all of the states fund the construction through bond approvals. If this one is the smallest plant I wonder if the next one will be a 60 million or a 100 million gallon ethonal plant. NSOL should look around New Jersey for additional sites because they know they have full support from NJEDA.

Thanks Technoman. I am patient and will wait for the good news to unfold. The OTCBB is a bad market. There is not enough promotion of NSOL, but in time everybody will know about this company.

84 million loan and yet the stock is at 46 million market cap. Does not make any sense except for the limited exposure that NSOL has on the OTCBB. How do we know that NSOL is not saving their best PR for when we get to the NASDAQ? FFI should allow NSOL to get to the NASDAQ. THEN BOOM! TWR, Nuclear Detection, and micro nuclearbatteries.

Technoman-How long do you think until underwritting is approved? Less than 30 days?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051202/ap_on_re_us/sept11_commission

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Thanks Technoman for sharing that information. I hope NSOL does something by December 31st. Something to move the stock to the $5 range

Technoman-Do you think underwriting began a week prior to preliminary approval? How long will it take? I also would like to know what your thoughts are for the other sites. How many do you think are planned from when you attended the meeting?

That article was a great find technoman. It shows that current ethonal markets may quadruple which means that there is a huge opportunity for many companies at this moment in time. The FFI plan is brillant and may beable to build more plants with their idea of using existing recyling center environmental permits in order to accelerate plant constuction. They may beable to build more plants than the competition with this strategy within a short time frame if it is implimented correctly.

I recently attended the 2005 Angel Investment Conference located in Phoenix, AZ. It is one of the largest investor conferences in the nation and represents 5 billion dollars in investment capital. I got to watch presentations on some of the companies looking for funding and learned more about the accredited investors who fund the deals. There are some great startup companies to invest in if you are rich. One of the interesting aspects is that most of the angel investors are looking for a 15 to 30 times gain. That is it. They seemed to be looking for a buy out company rather than an IPO. I thought that their goals were rather low since if I was going to invest in companies I would go for the knock out investments like what NSOL offers.

The investors were interested in 1 out of 10 companies making money for them while the rest are expected to break even or go under. The typical angel wanted between 20-40% of the company for a small amount of money and that Venture Capitalist are even tougher. Bottom line is I have more respect for the way Patrick Herda is building this company and for not giving the company away for an equity investment. The 10 million dollar licensing deal and the FFI deal to raise 84 million dollars is an accomplishment worth noting since many companies do not have these options. I do not know how he does it, but he is doing a good job.

As far as the price, I can wait until it is at a reasonable price. I think if FFI could do 10 ethanol deals and bring in 1 billion a year in revenue and get listed on a major exchange that we will make significantly more money than angel investors make in 5-7 years hoping for a 15-30 times gain. Since January 2003 the stock is up 15 times in value. We are doing good. Now if it can get to the next level and go to the 10-15 dollar range.

I hate the manipulation. But, in the end MM will trap themselves.

That is a good chart, A spike would cause a crash, yes, but it would establish a higher base too. Slow and steady is good, however I do want to see a good spike one of these days. That would be an opportunity.

TOM-I can see the vision, I guess I will stop thinking about the share price.

Sorry technoman-but I am not going to sell with a pre 84 million dollar annoucement pending. I think maybe I should just not look at this stock for a while and come back later sometime next year.

This is like watching paint dry. This stock needs to get off this exchange. December is almost here and there has been no significant increase in price. Only 4 more months until the Nuclear Detection testing will begin for the billion dollar contract. Does NSOL even have a partner? They will miss the boat if they do not act now.

Only penny flipping day traders seem to be buying and selling and it gets old. I hope they get burned. It will be a challenge to see this stock rise and stay above $5 for 30 days.

I do not think the market will give much credibility to building an ethonal plant until it brings in significant revenue which would probably mean by December 2006. This is the OTC BB, not the NASDAQ or NYSE!

I agree with most of this board in terms of potential with NSOL. Well it is time to go from potential to results... otherwise we will be here for a long time.

Nice spread. 1.06/1.14

OT: Guru-Here is my email address. enthalpy2005@yahoo.com

NSOL can do the same once the market discovers FFI. FFI is in a better position anyhow to get bond approval which is better than dilution.

Ask is 1.11

It is the OTCBB exchange. I am sure the contract news for FFI will be a different story. I wonder when NSOL will release that news?

I think the MM will let this run when they are ready. I expect a good close.

I do not think thats going to happen. Patrick has always wanted to surprise shareholders and FFI is the surprise. With the money that FFI will raise and create NSOL will benefit so NSOL can acquire the additional funding to finish thier technologies.

I am not going to bet against Borris Muchnick who has worked 2.5 years for NSOL and developed the intellectual property for NSOL. He is a world class scientist and he has a proven track record of success on anything he works on and to develop the IP can take 2-5+ years. Now that Devitio is on board I expect results and so far FFI came out of nowhere and look where we are now compared to 6 months ago. What will he do next for NSOL? TWR, or nuclear detection?

TWR is going to be worth more than FFI once it is commercialized. There is a huge market there that is just waiting for a solution and NSOL appears to have it.

Anybody can produce ethonal. FFI business plan is better than most and the company found a way around waiting 3-5 years for environmental permits which in a way is exceptional planning and very creative. Using the existing permits within recyling centers throughout this country is a brilliant idea, plus the feed stocks that are continous and steady so it is not dependent on corn or other agricultural waste. It is a good plan that I think is better than the competition. Time will tell.

The record date will be very important. I do think that management will have it in the future to generate interest in NSOL stock. However, how do we know that patrick will not reward existing shareholders many of whom have held this stock for years and not someone who just bought in a few days before the spin off.

I just want to see progress in the share price. I want to see NSOL on a major exchange. TWR is what I am waiting for and the patent should be published this December. FFI is just a bonus which seems to be a catalyst for NSOL to raise the money to commerizlize the other 3 technologies. Any ideas?

I have held this stock for sometime technoman. I want the free shares. I am hoping for a 1 share of FFI for every 3 shares of NSOL owned. Plus I want to see NSOL (the company) own about 40% of FFI. The remaining shares will be used for securing sites and raising capital.

Technoman-Thank you for sharing the information about the FFI meeting. How high do you think NSOL will go if FFI announces the bond approval?

Here is an interesting article about Real Estate and home building.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/usatoday/20051109/bs_usatoday/homebuilderdemandfading