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I am a noob in investing. I listened to someone and bought many shares @ 60s due to the high chance that SCOTUS will grant GVR. Now I am deeply underwater. What should I do with my shares? Should I sell them and move on or should I wait til a ruling from Kaplan to sell and hopefully to lose less $$$ or probably will make some pocket change. Someone also told me that Reverse Split of 1 for 10 is about to happen and stock price will be @ $2+ post R/S...but I worry that the professional shorts will knock the price down again, maybe back under $1 a share. If so, my original shares of 60+ cents will later only worth 15 cents. Thanks for your advice!
Without this complication, I would think it's a good chance that MAXD will prevail. The cases in Germany is pretty much in the dark for investors. There is no such thing as PACER system in Germany courts. We, the little investors can't really follow the daily activities of the cases in Germany.
Did google file the same arguments in courts of Germany? I don't know and i bet many of us don't know too. If someone knows, please post the info.
Why VSL/Vedanti is being so irrational?
1. Vedanti invented the patents for $$$$$ not for fun!!!
2. Vendanti/VSL signed contract with MAXD to sue google (stole their patents) for $$$$$ not for fun!!!
3. MAXD signed contract with Vendanti/VSL and filed cases to sue google for $$$$$ not for fun!
4. MAXD was/is trying to do their best to get google to kneel down (big settlement) for $$$$$ not for fun.
a. got someone to write a long list of what big bad google have done to many others innovators and put that in an article and cycle it on the internet to get more supporters to get $$$$$ to fight against google...for $$$$ and of course not for fun!
b. got someone to create a facebook page to advertise MAXD and let the whole world knows how bad google was/is....trying to attract more investors to support the fight against google...for $$$$$ and of course not for fun!
5. Vendanti/VSL broke the contract and twisted their words is because they got an interesting offer from google...I am guessing the offer is big enough.
a. more than 50% split with MAXD (if MAXD is in the picture)...more $$$$$...why not? LOGICAL!
b. the extra $$$$$ is more than enough to offset the $$$$$ they might have to pay MAXD for breaking contract.....at the end they still get more $$$$$ than having MAXD in the picture (which takes away 50% of the total $$$$$)!
Below is a list of items which google will attack to defend the cases against MAXD:
1. Vendanti/VSL
which they are doing to get MAXD out of the picture by using $$$$$ to deal directly with Vendanti/VSL...$$$$$ talk...looks like it's working...lawsuits go on; it might takes years to get only 50 % out of the total at the end anyway...irrational? I think it's LOGICAL!
2. challenge the patents...find prior art...MSJ filing...IPR reviews @ USPTO. Vendanti/VSL's patents are solid so they can't use this tactic.
3. ask their friends in congress and white house for help...might already tried or it's not time to use them yet.
AT THE END OF DAY, IT'S JUST ALL ABOUT THE DINERO !!!!! $$$$$$$$$$!!!!
for example: get $50 mils extra from google and pay MAXD $5 mils for breaking contract sounds very reasonable for VSL to ditch MAXD totally! it's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ after all!!
last pumping was 300 mils O/S...now 600 O/S...2.4 billions shares left to dump on the market...This is a total pump and shares dumping folks...check the historical prices and volumes...go back 3 months!!! Don't let the dirty MMs fool you into buying this POS!
it's really up to the judge to call that out and it also depends on how much VSL will have to pay to MAXD for breaking the contract (vs. the amount they wil get extra without MAXD in the picture)
with MAXD involved, VSL only get 50% of total amount...google might offer 65%+ to VSL alone and tell them to totally ditch MAXD...google wins...VSL also wins...sound negotiable...isn't it?
looks like google is offering something interesting to VSL to entice them to betray MAXD!
Correct...but the temp injunction on phone makers only..it's not on google (youtube)..also, it was from the dismissed, old case in Berlin...meaning no temp injunction on google ever yet!
I thought the temp. injunction was on the old, dismissed case in Berlin. The new case in the district of Mayheimn has no prelim. injunction but MAXD straight out ask for permanent injunction which will be heard on Dec 8th next month and the ruling probably out sometimes next 2016.
http://irdirect.net/DSS/corporate_overview
looks like they need $$$ to pay for the service to provide the information to the investors! DSS main website, then click investor, it doesn't work but a message will pop up saying:
This service has expired. Please contact Issuer Direct at 919-481-4000 ext. 111 to renew service.!!!!???!!?!?!
Flop patents and flop product? The beautiful, colorful pages in the presentation on Vringo website looks promising though!? The info. you just posted can cause a sell-off later?
kudos and agree!
20ish is coming to theater near you...
MMs manipulation at its best! Walk it down, walk it up, walk it down, then walk it up! Legal to steal in America!
I agree on that, but big bad google will NOT offer anything before the hearing on Dec 8, 2015.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/valeant-calls-sec-investigation-short-123606020.html
Hope the SEC will investigate the naked short selling on all stocks...If someone can buy all the shares of Vringo, then the naked shorts will be surfaced out...but who the heck willing to buy up all Vringo' shares???
In 3 months, they make 79 Mils on 25 Bils Revenue = .003 % profit...WTF? Apple makes 100+ Mils per day! Do you really believe the # they put on the Quarter Earning? It looks like they just match the #s that the analysts want and they make the #s look a bit better too. I don't think they really make any $. Shares count on the market are growing (slowly diluting).This is one super inflated stock that the dirty wall street crooks don't want it to go down. The valuation doesn't justify the price of the stock!
not enough to pay salary and attorney fee...this POS should be trading @ 10 cents
Thanks for a good read and a good laugh! Only way to fix this issue is to tell the BODs of Vringo to purchase all the shares which only cost them about $40 Millions. All of them add together will have enough $ to buy up all the shares on the market...After that they can file a real SEC complaint to put those illegal manipulators that naked short the stock in jail. The sad thing is BODs NEVER buy up a share for like how long? months? years?!!! So we can dream on to stop the manipulation on this stock. With that being said, never hold a bag in this stock...smart move would be quick flip and short the stock!
Heavy dilution...they need $$$ to fuel the lawsuits esp. the case that was stayed by apple's petition with the USPTO. They need $$$ to pay the BODs' high rate of salary.
I hope you are kidding...I emailed them, no response! I signed up for the email alert...the first email i got from them was the strong advertisement email about the case against google. I had a good laugh and a WTF moment.
of course...loan shark will push it down for as low as possible...the tax loss selling is adding salt on the wound.
No buyer...everyone is waiting for the note converting process get done and make their move.
048 just printed...hmm
The stock is being pumped! Price is being walked up by MMs, note converters. Volume, bid, ask can be phony as well.
wow .04 is coming...they try so hard to walk this down slowly.
200 shares @ 0467 ....wtf is that? hahaha
All I see for the past few trading sessions:
1st...MMs can post phony, fake bid/ask.
2nd...MMs have level 3 data...they can shuffle anything in any direction they want.
3rd...I mostly see 10k bid/ask that walks the share price up.
4th...the note converting process has just finished like a week ago. They want to have as profit as possible while they are dumping shares to dilute the total outstanding shares on the market.
note finished...what would you do to the shares you bought @ super low price with big discount? Of course you will turn around and sell them for higher price...note holder are loan shark and they only smell $$$. This is the 3rd time this year that pumping like this happens.
hey i meant the ones that are losing $$$ on this that bought long ago like @ 20+ cents, 10+ cents due to last 2 pumping attempt...They are releasing shares now (which we see tons of volume lately) so they can buy back later w/o WASH sale condition for tax purpose.
Tax loss selling season...of course volume is increased in many stock not just MAXD.
Tax loss selling season...of course volume is in creased in many stock not just MAXD.
I agree...but it just gives MAXD another bad name for many investors. Many are still stuck @ higher price due to the last 2 time of pumping and dumping.
It's more like the MMs are selling back and forth to each other to move the PPS up. It's their dirty game. It happens 3 times this year alone.
Why is this dropping again? Tax loss selling or what? Thought they will get another billion dollar from the newly filed lawsuit? I hate to see my investment turn red! Can someone advise? TIA!
cripple google will also cripple netflix and android phone makers...less android OS phones running will make a heavy enough impact on their 95 % revenue business model which is advertisement business!
What is not true? Hearing result won't be out til a few weeks after the 8th of December. In that few weeks after the hearing, they will decide to fight on, which is wait for the result and appeal if MAXD ever wins on the permanent injunction or they will settle. If they feel the tone of the judges is leaning toward them, then they won't settle. Google will make their decision after the Dec 8th hearing not before! Netflix will follow what exactly google does.
google won't settle after they hear the tone of the judges in the hearing...put urself in their shoes. At least they will try to argue in the hearing and plan their next move. settle or fight...plain and simple; just so common sense.
too many phony, fake bid/ask of 10K lining up. MMs at their dirty game all day all week.