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Here is some work looking at HOCl effects on yeast using another product made in a different way, but HOCl in saline with a similar pH, nonetheless.
“It has been shown to decrease concentrations of S aureus, Streptococcus spp, and C albicans by 99.999% at a kill time of 15 seconds (Table).”
From “Summary: The Role of Hypochlorous Acid in the Management of Burn Patients”
William L. Hickerson, MD and Louisa C. Boyd
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/336852871_Summary_The_Role_of_Hypochlorous_Acid_in_the_Management_of_Burn_Patients
Yes, in the last podcast they said they would be scaling back to every quarter.
I agree that a little more guidance on the stability of Hydrolyte would be welcome. On the other hand I understand that the stability is totally dependent on environmental conditions. That is why PCTL recommends testing your own product.
From what i gather, a sealed bottle stored in a cool place is probably still active (but not a peak potency) up to 6 months. Opened bottles should be used within 30 days.
I’ve seen better explanations of stability from the Pathisol website than the US website.
Note, Ace said that the 600ppm was LESS stable. It is also a reasonable assumption that the loss of activity is not linear over time, but rather some logarithmic decline. So 600ppm probably becomes 500ppm more quickly than 500ppm becomes 400ppm etc. In other words there is likely diminishing returns for creating stronger solutions. Why the UK went for 600 and the PCTL for 500, I don’t know.
Note, there are other manufacturers out there that sell products with half the concentration and many studies have shown effectiveness in particular applications below 100ppm.
Time is a big factor in effectiveness. Something soaking in a low concentration may be very effective. On the other hand misting requires a higher concentration to make sure reactions can take place before evaporation and breakdown of the HOCl.
Thank you, that seems like a reasonable explanation for the difference.
Thank you for your response. However, my question was more along the lines of why the US product is produced at a lower concentration if the machines are capable of more.
It could be many reasons, just wondering if anyone knows.
I’ve noticed Pathisol is made at 600ppm, whereas Hydrolyte is 460ppm. Any idea why? If they are made with the same equipment then why not increase the concentration in the US.
The angle is the method of production. They made the generators efficient and cheap enough to make the use of HOCl possible.
So they are going to use KCl for NaCl for Ag purposes. I was wondering if that is the case. Makes a lot of sense - don’t want to salt the earth.
There will come a time for new hires. As discussed yesterday regarding Q1, they have been actively trying to keep a lid on expenses. I think that is a good thing until they get more revenue. Otherwise, things can go bad very quickly. If they do manage 5 million this year, I am fairly sure some of that new money will go to hires that expand the business.
Thanks for posting. I would love to see PCT prevail in this suit, not just as a shareholder, but also to see Auctus get what they deserve.
I told a friend, who uses Robinhood, about PCTL. He said he didn’t see the ticker and that they probably don’t allow trading of pinkies. Does anyone know different?
Red meat should be press released in a statement. Podcasts (and tweets) are fine for filling in details and future directions. Otherwise they are just preaching to the choir. I think expecting news about new contracts and deals in the podcast is foolish - unless we get a PR the morning of with the significant news. This is probably why the share price goes down, because there is always somebody that was expecting red meat - and then they sell.
Note, I’m not against the podcasts and tweets. I like them very much as a way of addressing investor questions, letting us know what is brewing, and just plain old rumor control.
It makes sense they meant HCL as they are talking about carbonate stimulation, which I believe means that the local geology is high in carbonates. A strong acid will dissolve this rock and free any hydrocarbons caught in the nooks and crannies. Our HOCl is a weak acid and would have a minor effect, but still kill bacteria and react with hydrogen sulfide. Catholyte, being a basic solution, would also not dissolve this rock. From what I understand the Catholyte is active primarily due to its ability to dissolve the oil. Catholyte is being sold as a degreaser, so essentially it is degreasing the oil reservoir.
This is all my basic geology and chem classes has taught me. I’m no expert at oil recovery, but it make obvious sense that different biological formations and situations will call for different techniques to optimize extraction.
My thoughts as well. Nonetheless, I fully support the lawsuit.
I have to agree that the writing of today’s PR was atrocious. As a high school English assignment it would have been a C- at best.
I know what they are testing, I know the topic, etc but I have know idea what they were saying other than “it seems to be good”.
They need an introduction for what they are trying to achieve as if they are speaking to potential new investors.
They need topic sentences and concluding sentences for their paragraphs that bring home the message.
The whole things seams like it was dictated through a bathroom door.
The last sentence about possible paid testing in Q2 was the only decent one.
Total missed opportunity.
Just looking at another ticker I once owned. They are spiking for some reason. Similar 700 million+ outstanding shares, 3 billion authorized, marker cap above 20 million. More importantly, they have never made any money - they are all research and potential if it works out etc. PCTL is such a better position with actual product, revenue, and multiple business streams. Our day will come…
I would also like to add that the answer to share repurchase was contingent on many future events, like profitability to start. All he said was they would consider it in the future. I consider discussion of the matter a bit silly as we should focus on horizons we can actually see.
My understanding is that HOCl is for sterilization of bacteria (biofilm) and to help with turning sour oil to sweet.
The catholyte, NaOH is to improve extraction and separation of the oil and water.
Mugs, they are using Catholyte, not Hydrolyte, although the latter may also be used in O&G.
Maybe it is straightforward, but I imagine it would have to go past the auditors?
Been here for two years as well and fully agree with your frustration that these guys can’t get their act together when it comes to filing dates.
But there are over 24,000 schools in England. How many can we enlist – I don’t know? This could bring in real money, but it will take time to sign on schools, hospitals, government offices etc. However, over time it provide a nice stream of revenue.
What is with all the 9999 share blocks.
No he didn’t. He posted “… filed any day!”
He didn’t say tomorrow.
Are these the same fins you posted in the last minutes of trading recently, only to edit the posts after trading stopped?
Wow, Amazing
Evidence? Or are you starting the rumors?
I agree. Hydrolyte does not have a lasting effect, hence it is environmentally safe.
Your safe until the next infected person comes in and spreads their germs.
That was a good read, thanks. It looks like Tatum Health is the exclusive organization that is engaged in the sanitation business outside of the NHS system, using the fluids made by NTH solutions (our HOCl). They are targeting infrastructure, which is a way of saying most everything, and are trying to suggest there should be a standardized way of cleaning. In other words, they are taking hospital sanitation and spreading it out to schools, offices, buses, etc.
In terms of the insane potential for fluid use, they rightfully state that something has been cleaned only until the next infected person walks through the door. That means routine cleaning.
All of this is beyond the applications of our fluids for hospitals, nursing homes and the medical field.
Price/Sales. I got my info from Yahoo financial app. This is based on the conversation that started yesterday that PCTL’s P/S of 6+ was ‘cheap’.
OPTI has a P/S of 8500 and SBFM of 690. I also looked at other examples and P/S is very variable having to do with how established a company versus hope/promise of rapid growth. Take your pick what you think it should be for PCTL.
I think it is worth to emphasize this post as to what a big deal this is.
To all those who keep repeating scam, scams do not have their product evaluated in a trial in a hospital setting. These decisions are made be groups of people that have to be convinced that current practice may need to change. It is extra work and extra money to do this, so it is not done just because a janitor says his cousin in the US suggested we try a gallon of Hydrolyte to see how it works. To do such a trial correctly, to be able to convince people to switch products and methods, takes a coordinated effort by the administration, department heads, and involves microbiology researchers. They would also not do it if they think it would risk patients.
If the results turn out our way, this is a big deal.
Also, it takes time to compile data and write a report. Don’t expect news the day after the trial stops.
Plus there is a new HAI, SARS CoV 2! We are a long way from getting rid of the virus and it may become like whooping cough or measles that pop up every now and then. No hospital wants to infect their patients when treating someone with COVID-19.
I still believe we have a great product for hospitals that will always be needed. They just need to get their foot in the door, because changing practices is not easy.
I started using Hydrolyte in my laboratory. I asked one of our regulators about changing from MB-10 (aqueous chlorine dioxide) and basically, the regulator suggested sticking with what is tried and true. Which I imagine is the same discussing that happens everywhere. There are many disinfectant products out there. Nonetheless, I ignored the advice because I challenge anyone to tell me to stop using a safer product that is equally as effective.
All good, I wasn’t disagreeing with you.
I enjoy all the bullish speculation regarding the size of the O&G business. I agree the potential could be enormous, but there is so much we don’t know. Fundamentally, how much and how often are our fluids needed? I’m betting that the answer is ‘it varies’ based on geology, age of the well etc. I have no expertise in the O&G field, but I’m guessing that the process of getting the most out of an oil field is both a matter of science and art that comes with experience.
The number of oil wells out there is very large and if use of PCTL fluids can add significant value to these wells then the business could gusher (all puns intended).
I’m going to weigh in on one issue relating to the misting with Hydrolyte idea. Hydrolyte is made from NaCl. Plants don’t like NaCl. A little is OK, but any continuous application would literally salt the earth. I think a single application at harvest to prevent bacterial contamination (think lettuce, spinach) probably works.
Alternatively, I think it is possible to make HOCl from a KCl solution. Plants are generally OK with KCl. What I don’t know is how well the electrolysis process works with KCl, how stable the HOCl solution is etc.
In my option, the mistake is to make predictions for a whole year, especially 1 quarter out from finishing the current year.
They should stick to predicting the next quarter when presenting the results of the last quarter. They can always release a pleasant “we underestimated this quarter” press release mid-quarter.
Under promise, over deliver.
Correction: I found a higher volume day in 2018. Still doesn’t distract from the fact that volume was insane today.
I’m still stunned by today’s volume. As far as I can tell this was the highest volume day ever for PCTL. Still, we are up almost 40% and still within the Bollinger Bands, RSI below 60, and still sitting on the 50 day moving average. Plenty of room above to go higher.
Tweet date: 2/21/21
I suppose they could, but I think it is typical to pay for things upon delivery. I’ve seen non-refundable 10% down payments etc. on equipment, 50% down is already on the high end. Every business and market is its own beast and I guess you can do what ever the market will bare.
You do have the most unique way of supporting a stock so that you can exit at more than twice the current price.