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Now thats whats up Winner!
We are and get ready for the very rude awakening. In most cases no one likes to win by default because it really underscores ones abilitly, the hard work, blah blah blaahhh, I think we will be in the win column by default for the ability to prevent hacking, something no one else can really hang their hat on... all the other functions are gravy... and alot of it. Hopefully you get down to the nitty gritty of my point.
Gello... looks like my post 2721 yesterday has a little more teeth in it today. A few words from it....
The window is not closing but just the opposite. And closing to what? The doors are about to be blown wide open as there is a REAL CYBER WAR ON THE HORIZON... very serious war stuff, and nothing coming from any of the big names to deal with the current disaster let alone a full on slugfest.
GELLO YOU COULD NOT BE MORE RIGHT!!! The world does need VLDI+CHANNEL PARTNERS (yes super hero's). I don't want to come off as fear mongering but its just the truth. ITS A BIGGER DISASTER THAN ANY OF YOUR AVERAGE CITIZEN CAN POSSIBLY KNOW. What people think is bad now was actually how bad it was 10 years ago. The media is now playing catch up but way to late... as is the rest of the industry... reactionary, reactionary, reactionary. What a joke.
In the U.S. the next 2 years are going to be a nightmare compared to the last 6, which is an incredibly horrible thought so you can't count on the incompetent to protect you so... again reactionary, reactionary, reactionary. What a joke.
I and a long list of ALLIES who get it and are making the proper adjustments to take full advantage of this situation, none of which would want anybody knowing any of their business. Nor do I so you get a few honest words from myself... and a bunch of PR's from VALIDIAN that should be taken serious. No one on the front lines at this point in time cares about endpoints or revenue. In due time those numbers (even by accident...lol) should crush but are not the main focus of those who are on a mission to win a war. Im on a mission to win a war.... the rest will follow. And follow soon which is a win win in my book.
Still laughed ;)
I cannot and will not speak for the company regarding marketing campaigns so i cant help you with that but i look at the "come to fruition" part and have to ask myself... how did we get here? Lot of things have come to fruition for us to be having this discussion. This software is a herculean effort that has come to fruition... seems the focus here on this board is a "timeline" put together from things that have been said in press releases, on the phone by Bruce, in emails, from interviews, etc. Add the very human aspect of being anxious, sprinkle in some less than positive "glass half empty" factor coming from others who choose to see things this way and suddenly you have the panic that the window is now closing. (Only here i mind you, in my circles, its all laughs at any of this... and its our right to do so)
Lets address the "timeline". Things take as long as they take... if you add another feature to development, the whole time line moves... actually do anything different and its sure to move outward. Find a bug and it moves outward. Fido, and for others that may have an interest in what i have to say, these are just guidelines, not gospel. There are just way to many factors of why the "timeline" may or may not be met wether its revenue or endpoints. I am aware of every single reason and in my opinion they are all reasons to smile. But who cares as long as there is forward progress and no major set backs which there have been none. The window is not closing but just the opposite. And closing to what? The doors are about to be blown wide open as there is a REAL CYBER WAR ON THE HORIZON... very serious war stuff, and nothing coming from any of the big names to deal with the current disaster let alone a full on slugfest. There is room for 100 solutions/competitors to try and stop the ugly freight train. This is all uncharted territory... just like when this blows thru the 10.5 roof into UNCHARTED TERRITORY ... and all valuations fit.
And as far as creating more debt...who cares, means there will be more available for maybe another 500 people to get in. It wouldn't matter if there were 1 Billion out, you would have the same amount available as now. The amount of shareholders willing to part with any sizable position is down to maybe 2 or 3. Gunna take them out as well. Promise.
Fido, the company would never put pressure to the downside, they, more than anybody knows they could sell on the way up. Seems Willy knows more about the seller since he was doing some unusual predicting a few posts ago. Willy maybe you can help us out over here?
I have more and more to buy Willy. Keep serving it up my friend and i will owe you a Fresca!
Gello, can't argue with your spot on logic ;)
IMHO No one will tell you anything so i wouldn't bother. Security software details being shared with a complete stranger wont happen as there are NDA's in place that would shut that down before it even started. The software is not like the AOL software give away with only the early adaptor channel partners have access to it at this point. The next access for others will be at the launch of the mobile SDK's and modules. The last PR say it all...."installs will begin again" which means there is probably a list for enterprise installs backed up which means unless you have a serious reason to be able to cut the line there is no chance until public release. Less is more in this sphere.
If at this point there is a concern that Validian, Southern Data and Secure City Solutions are a scam and they are conspiring for the ultimate endgame...the implementation of Master Scam 2, you probably need to sell your shares if you own any, and i mean all of them. Oh thats rich. For those who may not know this simple little morsel...In order for Validian to use the words UNITED STATES AIR FORCE in the press release regarding the Secure City Solutions relationship, the UNITED STATES AIR FORCE had to approve the content and the press release its self. Everybody listed did...in all press releases. This is soooo way past the credibility sniff test its at the singularity.
They used the same failed infrastructure as all the rest. Not mission critical to protect but it definitely highlights the situation out there. Soon everything will begin the "CHANGE OVER" to get protected.
Good stuff Surwin... keep it coming.
Mornin Fido...Good news is that we are addressing all the holes in all the walls. With our tech we can now address the "social media stuff" that is a sieve when it comes to security. No one really cared before about how much of an issue security of these apps was up until now. Fortunately they do come in the form of endpoints which means a 2nd world is spinning right in front of us and only us and it consists of something like 1.7 trillion endpoints for the taking. Add this to the serious security concerns at the enterprise levels and we got our selves a hoedown. I LOVE THE FACT THAT I AM UP ABOUT A MIL SO FAR ON THIS VENTURE....BUT WE AINT SEEN NOTHING YET... BUHBUHBABY, AINT SEEN NOTHING YET!
Seems to me all the groundwork is being completed. Paying customers come from the "grind" work being done by the initial channel partners. Install, beta, polish, install, beta, polish, upgade, install, beta, polish, deploy-install, thumbs up, collect, payout to V.... we are at somewhere between install and thumbs up. Endpoints probably already stacking up and rev being flipped from paid in cap any minute now...imho
Ahhh, Sir Loopalancestein welcome to this fine think tank we have a brewing here! Yes nuptuals are GO....GO VLDI!!!
I understand completely. Took it very serious as did my associates as it hit us like a ton of bricks... in a good way. Anyone on this board has the opportunity to jump right in and start creating their own next level application. The ease is going to blow people away. All you need to know to get going is in the press releases and on their site. If you know what to look for of course. Data sheets and some insight and vision. Some had the insight at the cocktail hour stage of this wedding ;)
Get on line Shortround because i'm way ahead of ya... and there are quite a few behind and next to me all giddy as they come. If i recall, your org is pretty big...gunna be an incredible scene maaaannnnnn!
Your post is incorrect. 250,000 developers have not yet gotten their hands on the software. It has not been released yet. Not sure where they would have downloaded it...thats part of the launch/roll out/ kickoff.
WINNER...2 games running simultaneously, Tech and Market. I am very happy right now where we are on both fronts. Yes its all a game to me so I try not to take it to serious as there are bigger things to worry about in life. You all have made it a little more enjoyable so thanks all and enjoy your Holiday! Yes thats everybody ;)
AKAc
I could not have said it better Capt... NOW THATS HARD TO BELIEVE!
Yep i agree. This is good stuff. I would like to apologize to the board for any rubbings the wrong way i might have caused. I now know the road rules and will obey. Sorry once again... Who wants a Fresca?
Fido... this has been developed into a product thats now needed. Its that simple. History was a learning curve on the techs development arriving only now where there is a market place for its perfection. You are on the right side in your thinking.
If it was insiders the price would be significantly higher. These are not idiots stepping on their own deal when they could be selling half the paper at 8 or higher. Defies all logic. Clearly just those who can no longer holdout with all their position so are letting some go. The extreme clueless blew it all out already and for that i am very very thankful...and the accumulators are now playing these "on the fencers" like they know how. There is no mystery here. There are enough new people coming in thru word of mouth to put some pressure on the upside to entice those in need to bleed off some. The catcher mitts sit on the bid side buying right. Maybe 10% of the stock is being traded but the majority is going in one way for the homerun. (What are we at 25 million Mcap fully diluted...thats hysterical for this capability, already worth billions for what they can do. Bank on it.) Pretty simple. From what i see... there is very little left. Probably a few days worth of trading when it pops will consume the true float easy and then buh bye. Gappy Gillespie time. As far as the Q goes...the dude is a GENIUS....LOLOLOLOL. Why say anything til its time to really go. Im not saying anything out of whack here. ITS SECURITY AND AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL. I am a little confused as to why so much attention is being put on the market side of this...Hello??? I dare anyone to find any company that can claim anything close to what V has claimed. These claims are real. I say to all please put as much effort exerted to dissect the Q the K of the company into research on the current technologies out there and see what you come up with. NOTHING. Or is that what has already been discovered and are now in panic mode that this might be real as real can be???? I really don't care...If you think they are lying simply sell your stock. Get out. Now. I SAY SELL EVERYBODY< SELL SELL SELL> . Only those with smarts will be long when it goes anyway. Thats the way it works...WINNERS AND LOSERS. Right Shortround ;)
Yea i do :)
You betcha ;)
GO VLDI!!!!!!!!! ;) THAT WORKS AS WELL
For those out there that for some reason think that holding a software development company to a time line is a good meter of why or why or not to buy, hold or sell...good luck with that mates! Thats the reason so many old timers are going to die broke... because they blew out their stock on quite a few other "missing the time line developing software" companys that now powers their life support. Good luck sopping up.....love u all!!!
250,000 mobile deveopers. They are still out there dying for the change thats a coming. IF I NEED TO EXPLAIN WHY...WRONG STOCK FOR YOU.
LOL! Thats the spirit. OMG...from this market cap to where its going to be valued... Geeezzzzzz........Thunderbirds are GO!
All good...ask away. Those who listened to Bruce and put in the effort to become early adaptors of the technology are the golden childs. They asked the questions when no one wanted to hear it. Just based on the 2 announced channel partners, this is going to the promised land. Oh yea, and those pesky press releases that are just to good to be true.....Hahahahahahah lolololololol hahahahahaa. Smoke coming out of the nozzles. This is THE opportunity...IMHO
With the clean up phase nearly complete and now most of the old held stock in the hands of those who actually know what the hell they own, i think this stock gaps more than 10 cents a day at times in the near future. Breaking .10 ....fuhhh. I have watched this closely and i am impressed with where we are in that aspect. Now Just add water...cha cha cha chia! Bammmm
What makes you think they are not lined up begging for an install? Beacause its not announced? I would not say a word about anything...period. No one on this board knows anything about those types of things nor will we until its way to late to spoil the punch. NEED TO KNOW IS EVERYTHING. Surwin calling bruce and sending emails asking for insider information...which he admitted doing a few posts ago and is now not getting call backs...gee i wonder why. Do the math...people showing up at channel partners, calling them, calling V and whoever else might for some reason they think the may be given insider info. This is very serious security and does not belong in the hands of loose cannons... Just saying.
Fido...you can cut this deck so many ways. Its going to fun no doubt. Time is on our side...there is nothing in the pipe from where i am standing that will derail this train. Would be nice as its always good to have competition but im not sure there is any for quite some time. NOT TO MENTION VALIDIAN IS SAVING EVERY CTO OF EVERY WOULD BE COMPETITOR THEIR BUTT'S, JOBS, HOMES, CARS, YOU NAME IT... NOW THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO FILL THEIR SECURITY HOLES FOR THEM. THEY WOULD IF THEY COULD HAVE THEMSELVES. V IS THE SUPERHERO!!!
Some people get torn between the jump or no jump and dont want to be wrong all alone...All good tho but i do agree with the friends who say "Ya dont know jack". Gee i wonder what would happen if all those mobile developers have there own ad channel to make some extra bank with...Hmmmm?
Cool beans. I Like the point counterpointishness going on here. Its going to help some reading these posts understand the scope of the big pic...90 posts on wed was not to shabby. Good stuff indeed.
I get your point...all good. I just don't know what you want me to do?
Hey...... what time is it???? Surwin its you :) Lets face it...cool thing about this is there are so many angles to this that a straight sell off is probably to ehhh. I say rock it into pieces and choose the best of the best in each direction. There are 1.5 trillion VERY UNSECURE end points up for grabs in mobile, trillions of VERY UNSECURE transactions each and every week moving money and in advertising, paranoid governments, terrorizers, people dating, food, movies, MOVIES, drugs...legal and illegal, oh and medicine n stuff....and thats just a start. IT IS A TECHNOLOGY...not a product. I say run run run in all directions and watch the cockroaches scramble. Thats it. You can have all the where is the code being manipulated, wheres the this and that...i will leave that up to everyone else to ask or care about. I didnt think this would be so much fun....it is tho...No Redballs on this flightline!
AKAc
Gunna be fun as we will all see what unfolds together wont we. Gotta admit...truelly secure and easily deployable...whaddaya think Fido...$5-10 bil for that alone?
Ha, i just saw your post...spot on!
My guess is the last stronghold of supply...the over extended retired penny players who are needing to sell off to cover monthly nuts n stuff. Those are the sizes we are seeing that make sense. Only a few are trading it or shorting in some insignificant way, some probably popping in their negative comments on this board hoping to catch some to cover in between the real sponges that are out there. Its all so fun to watch... I'm so demented.