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I had to post after reading this post . I sure wish peo[ple would use some common sense and logic when reading and writing posts. So if VLDI is worth $2.00 a share what happen to 40-50 dollars a share. I guess common sense finally set in. Now for the more logic, and common sense, why in the world would anyone sell at .3 cent a share when they are going to get $2.00. Yes we all know the down side it is Zero. since you can't really buy or sell shares in the open market. Sure many friends of the Company would love to sell their share at .03, because if I am right I believe a lot of the convertible prefered stock and debt is convertible at that price. Now I will crawl back under my rock for another 2 months.
No dichotomy, when I trade penny stocks I usually use technical analysis. In the case of VLDI It told me to get out a long time ago and it told me never to get back in. I will now crawl back under my rock, waiting to hear the big news!!!! BTW I didn't make my profits in penny stocks!
LOL I worked those sad thousands to Millions🤭 My last post before I crawl back under my rock for a couple months, but keep attacking me rather than my facts i guess it makes you feel better. !
All depends on whether they are buying the product or the company. If they are buying the product the cash does not go directly to the shareholders and the company can decide what to do with the cash, like invest in something else. If they are buying the company then they are also buying all the debt and liabilities of the company but the shareholders will be paid directly.. For an acquirer it is always cleaner simply to buy the product. Just stating the facts!
Also with unregistered securities the SEC really does not come into to play as a enforcement agency.
You are absolutely right the best decision I made was taking a profit so much better than being invested in a stock I cannot trade. By the way how do you expect to get your money out if a deals does happen. and you can trade the stock I guess you will have to hope Bruce does the right thing and does a cash distribution to the shareholders after taking care of all the debt and preferred stock
I will now crawl back under my rock for the next couple of months, since you never can attack the material of my posts only me and you never provided any proof of your so called facts. Without proof there are no facts just supposition. . I find that very interesting!
No need to watch and learn since I learned a long time ago that you can not trust CEO's of Mom and Pop operations with delusions of grandeur when they simply can not even produce simple results. I can prove my facts because I have history on my side to support them but for some reason you can not provide proof of your so called facts.
It is obvious you are still wearing those rose colored glasses! I will check back in a couple of months just to see some people saying the same thing but according to you it does not matter when so maybe in another 25 years!
Facts always have proof and the only proof is that VLDI has failed over a timeline of 25 years to achieve a single on going revenue client. That surely rocks the world of cyber security companies
Oh my God please take off the rose color glasses because you have gone blind!
Now I can definitely crawl back under my rock since there is no hope to save you from disappointment because you do not understand a sham and lies when you see them.
Ganthet, 100s of thousand App programmers, millions of endpoints, sales leads, list of expert endorsements and not one single ongoing revenue producing client and it is all according to plan 25 years later, LOL.
No real news in over 5 years since VLDI has gone dark, other than an updated Website with links that do not work Why is that? First Bruce didn't want to make sales he only wanted to sell the company. Now we should be impressed by obsbure mentions relating to RASP so I guess this plan didn't workout or it has changed again , LOL. . With AI and Quantum computing taking over the world and cybersecurity. VLDI does not have much of a chance of ever coming back from the grey markets.. I will now crawl back under my rock since it is obvious some will never take off their rose colored glasses.
First I never commented on the technology over 10 years since that is beyond my expertise. I have made it perfectly clear over and over again that VLDI has not signed a single on going revenue producing client for the VP product in my history of me following this stock. of any significant magnitude. If I am wrong prove it! and where is the list of cyber security experts that you claim are endorsing the product?. And where is the link to the earth shattering public news on the product and why none of this information has been posted on VLDI website?
I never questioned the technology other than saying of all that tested the product no one never put VP into ongoing revenue producing service..
.You keep talking about companies that have tried VP and then changed their mind because it supposedly failed to do what Bruce says it can do. Yet, you have never posted one single company name or one single article that confirms your claim
Of course not because Bruce never provided their names and when question he claimed they were under NDAs and once they sign a agreement their names would be reveled. Guess what no names were ever revealed. Bruce did indicate over 8 years ago they had 20+ qualified leads and were getting close to agreements., which never happen.
These are facts and no company spends close to 25 years in developing a product that no one is using to this day in ongoing revenue producing service.
My proof is all the failure over the years in PRs indicating sales that never materialized. I would hate to list them all but with a lille DD you can find them!
Of course it is a secret . I remember a long time ago when Bruce was talking to me and accepting my emails he stated that his goal was to provide the service for free under NDAs and then when contracts were signed release the clients names along with their great reviews of the product.
Yes, they are all wrong to those that keep saying the same thing like VLDI is worth billions.and refuse to allow the true facts sink in. There is nothing to support VLDI is worth anything just to the contrary,there is a PR history of sales that never materialized to produce ongoing revenue .Posts from over 7 years ago painting a rosy picture which to this day has not materialized. Of course they say the same thing because the truth does not change,.especially when supported by the facts. So once again why not provide links to the earth shattering DD you claim you have found? Why hasn't VLDI included this information on its website if it is so significant? Where is the list of world class cybersecurity experts endorsing VLDI? Smoke and mirrors.
This too is old news from over 7 years ago and I addressed that when it actually came out. I actually communicated directly with him on the Alpha website. . Guess what he was wrong then and he is wrong now since 7 years later and nothing!
Really a review by a small real estate business carries significant cyber security threats for hacks?. I would be surprise if they get one attempt per year. The disappointing news is this is from eight years ago and nothing since them.
Show me a named company like a bank or stock brokerage business or anything that get a few thousand hits per month from users. Then you might have something.to talk about after over 20 years of developing the VP product. .
Yes I saw that one and it is exactly what I stated a small operation not a large enterprise solution. VLDI never recorded any ongoing revenue from this product even 8 years ago. So by now you would expect hundred of thousand of clients and big enterprise companies not a small real estate broker. This is not worth Billions.
Why not answer my questions then, which are legitimate questions, instead of your romberoom response. I provide my DD which proves my position. I guess you can't and that is why a 2 year old response. ..
I can assure you, Sir, the only DD that shows that Validian has failed is yours. The websites I have access to are marketing ValidianProtect as the cybersecurity program of choice of the world's leading cybersecurity experts. The fact that you have never found them has not made them any less real.
First if it is so hard to find this website they would be really ineffective at the marketing the VP product. You claim you have proof that Valdivian is being marketed as "The cybersecurity program of choice of the world's leading cybersecurity experts" Ok lets say that is true yet there is no proof that you are willing to share. There is no reason not to share since the stock is worthless and for all intensive purposes does not really trade. Second if that statement is true there would be no reason not to included it on VLDI website with the endorsement of all these experts.. Third there is no real benefit or loss to your PF board members in sharing this information since it does not give anyone an unfair advantage at this time. So why not share it?
I will tell you why you do not share it because it is probably a generic statement without any real list of world experts that are endorsing VLDI with maybe the exception of Rafael Gorgal,.but I doubt that too since he no longer seems to be working as a forensic cybersecurity expert, since he join G4 Tech as a partner. They are focused in building startups and launching tailor-made projects for clients. The real question is there a client list proving that other websites are wrong that no one has yet integrated the product. It is great VP is being marketed but if the product is so great why no clients BTW from the websites I have seen so far marketing Validian RASP it is being marketed as one of many RASPs with no attributes better or worse than the rest. Also these websites seem to be geared to small business and not large enterprises. This does not appear as any justification for a billion valuation.!
Nothing ever changes with VLDI it all seem like the smoke an mirrors continues even after going Grey. .
That is so funny DD shows VLDI has not integrated a single client .I guess you dismiss real DD when it is contrary to your opinion, Did you ever notice you seldom attack the information but you love to attack the messenger.. I guess that says a lot!
I couldn't agree more! Simple logic tell me if there was something out there worth a hill of beans they would have post it on their website. There is no reason in the the world to keep good public news a secret which seems to be contradiction in terms. .
So, you decided to make it your life's work to discourage all of the remaining Validian shareholders with your non-stop bashing vomit.
LOL, I already stated why I am here , do I not need to repeat myself as many times as I have stated the fact that VLDI has been unable to produce a single ongoing revenue producing client which is the truth, but ..."You can't handle the truth." !!!
And I sure am sorry I insulted your profits. I didn't mean to hurt your widdle feelwings
LOL no feeling to hurt just stating the facts but "You can't handle the truth" and I am sorry for that!
I find it absolutely fascinating that even after finding the references to Validian being one of the top software applications in the RASP toolshed, you STILL insist that VP has failed every test, doesn't work, and no one wants it. Do you have any idea how completely ridiculous that sounds?
Not ridicul;us at all when everything said about them can not be verified by a single real revenue producing customer. Yes many sites have Validian listed along with other RASP providers. Nothing indicating them to be any better or worse. The big difference is that Valiidan is also listed as having no client integration on sites, while the other player actually show a list of clients using their service. VLDI needs clients to provide rave reviews how great the product is, but. no clients means no meaningful reviews
Well, the good news is all of this will be over soon and you will be able to get on with your life, spending the few thousands you made flipping your pathetic little stocks. And the rest of us will have to get over the disappointment of having to spend the $millions we are about to make with this piece of trash.
I have been enjoying my life and never lost a day sleep over VLDI since I got out with a profit a long time ago. Do not assume to know how much money I have made over the years trading stocks, I believe it would really surprise you since I am comfortably retired without a financial worry for the rest of my life. .
Willy I can't talk to why others are here on this message board, but I find it fascinating that with all the failures of the VP product to produce ongoing revenue from clients and all the evidence that the company is basically worthless and all the evidence that the SEC has delisted the stock for failure to provide financial information, that anyone could logically still believe this MOM and POP operation without any substantial revenue is worth anything or could be bought out for a couple pennies a share yet alone the outrageous claims that it is worth Billions. I guess that after all the years following this company the amazement grows that reality has not set in yet to some, which is undeniably amusing and sad at the same time. This keeps me coming back to see what it will take for them to throw in the towel, since the rocket ship blew up on the launch pad! On the other hand I also look for the sliver of information that I am wrong which is crazy in light of all the undeniable evidence to the contrary.
Multiple website that states Validian has not been integrated with any clients. And once again why if this information is so great ,why hasn't Validian posted it on it website.?
LOL the whole purpose of a forum is to share information (including DD), opinions and entice conversations. It helps to create discussions where people can ask questions, share their knowledge, and discuss topics of mutual interest. It also creates an interactive space where members can share constructive criticism and praise alike on stocks and their management. BTW if the information is public you should be able to share it and if it so difficult to find by other individuals it is possibile has very little merit. Also if it had merit why wouldn't Valdian put it on its website. Once again VLDI fails at all attempts of logic. JMO
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