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Hey guys ...! Of which page can i watch all the trades that have been made today? I put a buy and a sell order and it seemed to me that i could have gotten both of them...! I would like to call my broker and see If something went Wrong today...! Or maybe the transaction is not made because the holidays in Sweden
Hahahaha everybody is waiting for it...:) but i think Siaf will continue go up until q2 where we hopefully get a q report without dilution and some Very good news regarding megaprawn farm....! This company has its issues and therefore valued as a PE 2 company, but the brave once that stand by it, i think they Will be rewarded in 2-3 years time
Good PM !!
So why havent we applied to OSE by now?? what are we waiting for??? I all along thought that that was the only problem???
But nobody is intrested to invest in a company where a 65 year old chinese guy run the show?? And therefore is the listning worthless (not quite) so i think everything sticks together and still no OSE..!?
I sure hope so and if that happens i think we will get around 25-30usd before year end....!!
The one thing im concerned over is that Arctic have a timeline if i dont got it wrong, but i think that they would need an answer before the q rapport which is 14:th August, so time is ticking.
Arctic want this done by okt-nov so they need some time to fix that, but i REALLY REALLY hope that Solomon understands the problem and fix it quick, because if we dont get to the OSE it will hurt his company very much.
If the company is valued more than he can borrow more money from banks and finish his Mega Farm, so its a win win for everybody.
Dont understand why the agreement hasnt come yet.
When SIAF and ECAB made the deal, Solomon knew about this and still 1 year after the deal he hasnt commited. I think that we in a month time will get some very good news and all of this will be history..!
Its a couple of things that i want to se what you guys think of. The problem right now with Siaf is that Solomon isnt letting go of his A-shares and there is no european stock exchange that will take in Siaf under these circumstances. Solomon knows about it, but the thing im wondering is why did he contact Arctic, Burnham etc if he isnt going to let go of the power??? He knows the rules of getting in to OSE and FN, so why bother doing all this sh't?
Next thing is, is he intrested in forfilling his dream with the agriculture, obviusly YES. How can he forfill his dreams the quickest way?? BY getting on the OSE and let instutions invest in his company. So i still dont know why he is doing this..??
Lets say worst scenario case? He doesnt let go of his a-shares and we are still on OTC, but the Mega Farm will be ready by Aug-Sept and the EPS will grow when there is no dilution. I still think the most negativ scenario will be good money for everybody that invests in siaf...!!
Dont think its dead, but it seems to be not that interesting becasue of Arctic and OSE, and i think they are doing the right thing, after listening to FD i more then ever convinced that this project will be a success even though we will hit some bumps on the road...!! FD seems to be very bright and he talks about Solomons flaws and that he is all in the project and that sky is the limit..!!
To keep it short and simple...!!
He talks about his DD he made before he invested in the bond (very intresting)
He talks about they are going to be aquaculture company and the other companys are going to be sold or separeted listed.
As a shareholder we are probably going to get some kind of dividend or more shares with the sell of SJAP HU and the other ones (VERY GOOD)
They are going to OSE some small things Soloman have to fix before that, but FD said its going to happen..!!
Sparpodden on Nordnet...!! They have a lot of people listening to them and this is a new way to reach out to new potential shareholders...!
Fredrik Danielsson is going to be on One of the biggest pod-cast in Sweden today and only talk about sino...!! Nordnets pod ...! Its going to massive
Hi Everybody...!! I just called Broadridge and asked about the F-share dividend and they told me that Siaf hade paid for the shares the 5:th of June and that she would be very suprised if all of us didnt get the dividend by Monday or Tuesday next week, hopefully sooner, but she said that Siaf have done all the right things and these stuff take some time. So everybody its all good and its no drama from anybodys side..!!
As for the share price right now it sucks but as always after rain comes sunshine and i belive that these things sorts out we will be around 25-30 usd before the year end.
1. Solomon doesnt interfere with the economic part of the buisness
2. Megaprawn farm is working and going by August
3. OSE by okt-dec
4. Record q2 q3 and q4
5. EPS around 6-8usd
Negativ things can slow us down but at the end of the day we will reach our goals
I dont understand the negativity?? Do u guys want to push down the price to buy some stocks or what?? It will be so good when arctic finds institutions that will buy this magnificent stock and then all of u that talk so much bull won't even have a say...!! The value in this report is arctic and the loans...more money more tanks more shrimps = even more money!!!
THIS got to be the best news ever...!! I think a lot of the scandinavian people will get their eyes on this stock now and it will probably blow the roof..!! @realdutch what did u think of the report?? I think we will double up tomorrow because i can't see how anyone would like to sell at this point when we have so much good things coming our way..!!
something wrong with my browser....i could go in now...!! thx for the info..!
Any news on the prawn farm, are they producing some prawns by now??
I tried to go to sino´s website but i could not get in? Are they doing a makeover, bout time then =) !!
Thanks Real Dutch...! So the way i see it now is:
1. We get listed = yeah Very good
2. We sell part of SJAP = heller yeah Very good
3. We get dividen 2016 ish = yeah good
4. The megaprawn farm delivers big time = damn good yeah
Anything u guys could add to the list ??
Thank u for the answear...! If im reading this right, this could be probably the best thing that could happen to all Siaf share owners, even better than getting a listing on FN or Nasdaq ...?
What happens to all the Siaf stock owners when SJAP gets listed in HK or somewhere else?? I dont understand what happens to us shareholders..?? Is it good news? To we make money ??
Whats everybodys take on when we are going to get listed??? We have seen red numbers aprox for 14 days, nice to have some good info poppin up
So tomorrow when i wake up i will have ten times less shares at a value of 7.4usd?? and what happens when we get in to nasdaq omx?? does that mean my stocks will be removed from otc automaticly???
I live in Sweden and i have a couple of friends that knows FD and everybody says that he is a very smart guy, crazy but smart. He had a lot of people that were good with numbers coming in to help him the numbers when solomon was in sthlm. Acctually a close friend of mine was there during their meeting, but he doesnt say what they discussed or what the plans were..!! wanted u to know this..!!
Thanks for the info brother..!! So according youre expertise my friend ...sino is going to be listed on Nasdaq in a couple of weeks?? And if so what happens to the stock, explode or just stay the same???
On which site can u see who is buying the stock??
Yes sir. But how was youre thought about all of it...?? I thought it was very positive and it felt like he knew what was wrong and he talked about the problems and what kind of solutions he had for it. It seemed that he had invested time on this message board =)
No slide presentation, just talking
He said that 2015 was the year that many things would happen. Positive cashflow, pay back a loan? (dont know what that is), Being listed, pay out dividens
Said that maybe SJAP ( beef farm?) would be seperatly listed on hong kong list..!!
He didnt want to get in to that, but it was sooner than later mentality from him. We will se what happens on thursday when öhmans fondkommision are having their own meeting. Think that one will be more listing talk.
He talked without a microphone and sometimes he got so excited that it went to fast for him, and im not an expert on chinese engelsk accents =)
They are growing alot of vegetables on the HU plantation now and they will sell them att Tesco as well. But he mentioned something about that if take 6 months to grow thing on HU. But he wasnt upbeat about the HU but i dont think it will be a big part of the company, i think the beef as is and in the future will be a important part but their MEGA PRAWN FARM is the thing that will be their main asset
The thing that got me going on was that by march they would be producing alot of eel prawns and fish.
And the distribution center in shanghai was very intressting , he was giving alot of revenue numbers over the tesco/wenge ( owner of all the stores 1600) and they will not only sell beef but prawns eel and all other shit they got. It sounded VERY VERY GOOD. And the numbers he was mentioning were good as well.
So the future is there i think if they get the online deal and the distrubition centers across China, it will be a success.
He also talked about a project they were getting involved with in Madagascar, something about sheaps and a special type of fish..!!
It was full aprox 200 people...! The front row had some rich looking guys...It was an intresting setup of people...!!
By the end Of 2014 ...he Said maybe Hongkong or more likely Stockholmsbörsen ...! They were open for solotions because he thought that otc isnt favoreable to be in if they wanna reach new levels ....!
I was at the meeting and following things were said...!!
. If they get an offer he cant refuse then he will sell the HU projekt, right now its going very good for HU.
. By March 2015 the mega prawn farm will produce 2-3000 ton shrimp and therefore make up for the aprox 60 million usd that will be needed for developing the farm. Solomon said that it will finans it self after march 2015.
. Because of Chinas goverment decided that they need more beef in the country, they have made an agrement with aussie and there beef is tax free and therefore a lot cheaper then sinos beef. Thats why they are going to sell more high end beef like wagu where they wont copmetet against aussie beef. That will take aprox 2-3 years to make that transition from beef to high end beef, so right now they are countiuing there beef production as is.
. They are trying to give dividens by 2015 may i think
. Their distrubitaon center in Shanghai was very intressing and if they succed in shanghai then they will do that all around the big cities in China. The distrubitaion center hade 5 elements: Tesco or Wenge or somthing that owns 1600 stores cross china. they will have their meet, prawns, eels, fish and all other things they will sell trough tesco not only beef.
. The online shopping produce 30 million usd for a small company last year and therefore Sino will get at it and he was very optimistic about it.
. and a couple of other things a dont remember ... but this was very intresting .
Finally he said that the Mega prawn farm would be the biggest in china and if not in the world. that projekt must the baby of the company and he said something that it was benefitial with the taxes, i couldnt grasp every thou =)...!!
. The listing is coming sooner than later and hopefully by end of the year it will get listed, he was a little quite about it but said that good things will come very soon
I think that more info will come on Thursday but it was very good info and Dan ritchey spoke as well and he was very entertaining...!!
Ask me questions i dont remember everything...!!
But my thoughts now is by the end of 2014 around 1.1usd by march-may 2-3usd 3 years 7-10usd
ooo btw he said something about paying back all the loans by march 2015 dont know what that was about
i didnt understand what u mean with this comment?? who is joe ??
So u think its only a matter of time before they get listed somewhere beside otc...?? There results are good, theyre in a business that is the future of proteins. Theyre in a country that has the most population, i dont se why its not already ticking.
I do think that average joe needs a couple of good q results and no dilution of the stock before they get comfortable with the stock and start investing on it...! Am i right ??
Im wondering whats keeping Siaf from being listed on FN ?? Is it technical issues, is it trust issues, is it stock issues, is it because of giving out more shares during the years?
Whats FN´s demand on a stock to get listed, if so is Siaf far away of the demands ???
I thought it was a good cc...!! dont know whyr everybody is trippin...dont like, get lost..! So RealDutch after what u heard today, whats youre feeling about q4 and a little bit into 2015. I think alot of the questions that everybody have here is going to get answeared when they are in Stockholm and im almost positive that we are going to get a listing on FN here in Sweden..!!
@Real Dutch how come the stock is falling around 2% everyday?? When is the stock going up towards the 1usd it was 2months ago?? They are trying to give out info and the future is very bright and their q3 was pretty good...!!
So real dutch, if u had to make your prediction for sinos future, let say 2015, where would the stock be at ???
How the hell are we in the red right now??? Where can i follow the action of the stock ?? Im pretty new in the stock world but can anyone explane what NITE is and why they are dumping the stock, like everybody is talking about..!! I bought Siaf at an average of 0.7 and i really think this stock is da bomb. Ps i really think that the Real Dutch should be a board member of Siaf !!
Whats everybodys expectation for tomorrow? I think the news today will amp up tomorrows results!