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It's deja vu all over again. The rhetoric of the cast of characters posting here sounds so familiar that it's scary. Do some homework and you can actually figure out who's who! Hopefully this time is a charm.
Joe, I started this board back in 2005 and almost 9 years later bull*hit is still bull*hit! Hello to all old timers. Still holding, still hoping. If nothing else it's still a hell of a capital loss come tax time.
Hello old timers, I check in from time to time because I still own shares and am probably a glutton for punishment. The cast of characters running the show may have changed but the results seem all too familiar. As I've said repeatedly show me the money and start construction. All the MOU's and partnering agreements are BS until the rubber meets the road. We've been through this time and time again. The technology is there and the business model sounds terrific. The stars seem to be aligned, get the fk'n money and start to produce. Good day to all.
I've seen enough MOU's and letters of intent to last a lifetime. Show me the money. Anything short of that is nothing but bs.
Well, if I really had called Fred, his standard response was that he had just bought 500,000 shares and expected the stock to rebound on news in the next few days. In all fairness to Fred I think he lost more money here than most. He was as much taken in by the bullshit as we were. It's been quite a trip.
clearly key, you haven't done your homework or your an unabashed basher. Either way good luck.
i think you are correct. the HUGE money is in the blood.
hello all old timers. just checked in to see what condition my condition was in. looks like the same old shit. let me call fred frisco to get an update. what a ride!
Nice to see some old names still here. I still have shares and hope that this management team can get this off the ground. It all boils down to money. If they can get the financing this company will be very successful, if not, it was just an interesting story. Hoping for the best. Regards to all the old timers.
"Those investors still holding onto shares will find salvation in just one thing and that is if the science is found to work. If the science fails then ACTC will fold like a house of cards.If it works, then ACTC will be the tip of the spear for regenerative medicine and take its place next to the largest pharmaceutical companies on the planet".I'm betting that it works!
Priceless, MLM, just priceless!
enth, here's hoping this times a gem.
PDT, I have no idea what your talking about but if you can get the pps up on your machinations more power to you. I just came back to the board I started after thinking this investment was dead in the water. If the new management can get this jump started to the point where I can get out unscathed, great. In a perfect world I would love to see this get fully financed and all long timers get out with a couple of bucks in their pockets. That remains to be seen. But please don't question the motives and frustrations of people who have been invested in this company for years and have absolutely nothing to show for it other than a capital loss on April 15. We've been here for years, how about you.
It's been a looooong road, brother. Here's hoping for the best.
Seriously, this penny ante stuff is just that. Call me when they get the financing. To all the long timers, maybe we can break even, never thought it would happen.
Time will tell, T8, time will tell.
Let me try this a second time since it seems my first post was objectional enough to get deleted which I find amusing since I was the one who started this board over 6 years ago. First off, MLM, your retrospective was pretty much spot on, keep up the good work. Secondly, no one, other than possibly docshiraz or gator644, wants this company to be successful more than me. Having said that, the bottom line to its success is financing. You can have the land, the two sites, the technology, the rail spur, the water, the coal, the prospective customers, local and state support and anything else i'm missing but without the financing you have nothing but a compelling story. Here's hoping they can line up the financing.
MLM, pretty accurate and downright pathetic. Is this deja vu all over again? Everything sounds so damn familiar. Show me the money. Until then it's all bs.
Raymond Lund, Ph.D., a scientific collaborator with ACT, and considered one of the world’s foremost experts in retinal cell physiology and vision restoration, commented, “The study results of ACT’s RPE cells implanted in the various animal models of macular degeneration was phenomenal. If ACT observes even a fraction of that benefit in humans, it will be nothing short of a home run."
Fred Frisco's cell phone # 1 908 227 3949. Give him a call with any question you have. I've had many conversations with him over the last several years and he's always returned my calls when not immediately available.
"So basically what you are illeging is inaccurate and misleading. Maybe you should rethink your statements." cqrtdoc is not prone to inaccuracies nor has he, in the past, been misleading. Please share whatever information you have but don't be too surprised if it's met with skepticism and negativity.
Hey Fluke321, if your out there, post a reply and we'll set up a meet.
gator, absolutely correct with your statement, "TAKING IT A STEP FURTHER: Don't you think full financing of a plant will be a lot easier to get if the lender knows that the project is backed by a state government and their investment is largely gauranteed by all those lovely tax incentives???" On the other hand, its my understanding that Kentucky wanted assurances that NSOL/FFI/KFA would be able to obtain plant financing before granting $2mm/site and that NSOL/FFI was in Kentucky this week doing just that. If that in fact is the case a $2mm/site grant would signal that plant financing would shortly follow. Time will tell.
Take it for what its worth folks but I was told several weeks ago that the transitional team would become THE management team for nsol/ffi. Time will tell.
x, probably because he's not considered an insider.
Jeff, the answer is in your question. "If the Kentucky Legislature is sold on the LONG TERM profitability and job creation of the project that helps the county and State of Kentucky, what would be the delay in getting it approved and granting funding for the project?" Their POLITICIANS.
free, from the 9/26/07 press release: "In consideration for the two million dollar funding per site, KFA will receive 7% of the annual net pre-tax income of each jointly developed CTL diesel fuel facility and 2.5% equity interest in the first CTL diesel fuel facility developed by FFI and KFA. Additionally, KFA will have the exclusive right to develop CTL diesel fuel facilities with FFI in the state of Kentucky and a conditional first right of refusal to develop CTL diesel fuel facilities in the remainder of the United States."
"hopefully Herda tells them to get bent." LOL Well said.
Good find ride. It would be interesting to see that story picked up nationally. Unfortunately I think the only readers of the article are on this board and subscribers to the Messenger-Inquirer newspaper of Owensboro, Ky.
dreamer, you say the TO didn't happen because IA couldn't raise the funds. Where did you get that info from?
JohnBoy, is the $2.5mm the funding your referring to or are there broader funding initiatives that Kentucky has for NSOL? And why would Romano be at the ground breaking. He don't own shit yet!
gator, there's no business if you can't fund it. That, my friend, is NSOL's dilemma. I believe they have taken it as far as they can and can't get the funding necessary to get the plants up and running. It seems that IA can. I was told awhile ago that signed contracts from Phoenix Coal would play an important part in this Kentucky venture and buyout scenario. Just my take on it. Good luck.
W6, I believe the buyout will happen. At what price, I'm not sure. And putting a time frame on anything NSOL is involved with is pointless and leads to nothing but frustration. As I said earlier, I believe the acquisition of NSOL opens the door to a lot of money for IA. And keep on posting, some of us who have been here a long time get cranky every once in a while. Good luck.
cytrx, I disagree and think that the deal will happen. If IA has the deep pockets that we're told they do, the acquisition of NSOL is a small price to pay in view of their long range plan. And I believe that IA has deposited 300mm in an escrow account in anticipation of closing the deal. The Kentucky Economic Development Finance Authority KEDFA has a package of tax incentives that would reimberse companies up to a maximum of 50% of their capital investment for up to a 25 year period. The incentives accrued on just one plant would more than make up for the price paid for NSOL. Kentucky will do all that they can to move this project along. I'd love to see the company succeed on it's own but the likelihood of that seems faint at best. IA is positioned to achieve what NSOL could'nt- funding. Good luck.
5years, I'm with you on the hope of NSOL going it on their own.It's my understanding that Kentucky wants this plant and will do whatever it takes to make it a reality. I believe the restricted funds of 625k referred to in HB410 are monies already given to KFA/FFI to get the project moving. If Kentucky is as behind this project as I suspect then the IA offer is paltry. Time will tell.
5years, there's no argument that now is the time for this technology. And to my way of thinking now is the time for NSOL to get the funding necessary to build a plant(s) or sell the company to someone who can. Waiting for federal/state funding to materialize and counting on politicians who will do and say anything as long as it sounds good on the next sound bite is risky at best. I've been around a long time, as you and others here have, and would like nothing more than to see NSOL succeed but I'm not willing to wait until that time when you'd have to change your name to 25years and mine to njguy41. Bottom line: get the money, build the plant.
"MLM is going to be quiet for a very long time after what happens in the next week or so!" JFK, let me rephrase my questions, why and how come?
"MLM is going to be quiet for a very long time after what happens in the next week or so!" Alright JFK, what is going to happen in the next week or so and what makes you think it's going to happen?
Since my last profanity laced tirade of a post was deleted, let me put it in a kinder and gentler way. After all of these years, investing in cd's would have yielded a similar, safer return with no aggrevation. Those rascals of a management team!
o b, sure why the fuck not. I've been around for a long time and my agenda, clearly stated, is the hope that this company is successful and brings very good returns to ALL investors particularly those longs who have endured the last 5 or more years. Though I have a sizeable investment in this company and would have much to gain by its success, I have never intentionally misled, distorted or lied about any info, observation or opinion that I have shared here. And for the record, the "unsolicited bidders" can take the 110MM and shove it up their asses.