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I'LL OPEN ANOTHER ACCOUNT AND REALLY PUT THE DICK TO YA!!!
I have no agenda. I own 2,810,000 shrs of QBID. I paid about .0028 for it. It's just that it has been my experience that the time to buy is when everyone else is screaming for the door at any price.
Also, there are some things about this stock that have no explanation.
Where are the billion shares that trade everyday coming from?
Why isin't the daily available amount of shares drying up, if Frank is buying back?
The only answer I can come up with would be that Frank made a giant blunder using the Recording equipment money for the Gay Games to do a buyback. Now he need's the equip. But to think that he saw issuing billions of shares and selling them for peanuts was the answer, that's bizzare.
Something incredulous is going on with this stock obviously. Frank has said things that could easily land him in jail if he has done what people here are accusing him of. Issuing shares while releasing a PR saying Q was buying back- saying there was 14 billion outstanding when there was actually 44 billion- making his shares preferred to insulate them from forthcoming dilution. Folks this would never fall under safe harbor. Frank's reputation would be ruined and he would be broke and jailhouse bound.
I think this may well be a case of a lot of angry threatening emails pissing him off. I just don't know. i do know that Frank for at least the time being doesn't give a shit about investors for whatever reason. I also know for the first time QBID is getting carrige like crazy and appears to have a good shot at viability.
Speculation runs wild in a void. The void here is gigantic. We need a audit. We need to get off the pinks.
BOB MAHEU IS AN INCOMPETENT
We got a ambulance chaser after the board
If Frank was gonna buy back shares why would he not do it now that the PPS is so incredibly low???
Something is very wrong here. It wasn't terribly long ago Frank announced he was buying back shares up to .01 and he did exactly that. i remember. What the hell is going on here? None of this makes any sense.
ROBERT MAHEU IS UNDER A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION FOR FRAUD
But why talk to or answer people that are flaming mad. He has a business to run he doesn’t have time to keep everyone happy and it has been proven that whatever pr is put out someone or a lot of people aren’t happy it is never good enough
I'll tell you why Cardio. Because if the share price is worthless Frank cannot use it as leverage to obtain warrants if he needs them, thats why.
Further once Frank has promised an audit he has a responsibility because we are publicly traded to follow thru with it.
My fear is even once the audit is released there will have been huge dilution after the cutoff date of the audit
However, before we could blink, the authorized and outstanding shares had grown to an unbelievably high number, with the outstanding shares most likely ranging from 40-50 billion
I can find no evidence of this. As far as all the shares trading everyday, that could be illegal shorting. It could have that effect. I don't know where the rumor of dilution started. I say again, I can find no proof of this.
Have any of you actually even seen Q television ???? Is it a viable broadcast signal ?? Is it an actual TV channel ???
Where are all of these billions of shares traded coming from ???
I don't understand this????????
Why is the share price falling so far when Q is picking up broadcast contracts????
If Frank is selling off shares this low he is totally disperate, thus the dilution theory.
The fact is Frank doesen't even care enough anymore to come out and say anything. His attitude now is...whatever. Frank should be in jail. This is bullshit.
.00001 coming-Frank is silent
ERIC YOU JUST CANT KEEP MY NAME OUT OF YOUR FAT COWARDLY MOTH CAN YOU ??
SHARE SHORTAGE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lEVEL 2 SHOWS ALMOST NO SHARES AVAILABLE AFTEWR $1.00
We are soooooo overdue for some news.Cmon Wellstone.
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i KNOW THOSE EDGAR ONLINE HINGS ARE ALWAYS AN UNDERSTATEMENT.But;basically what they are saying is you can forget about a contract supplying filters for at least one year.Think I dont understand is how they are going to produce and sell ciggs when as of May the filters will be untested and it doesent even sound like they will be set up for automated production of filters.
Mark
THIS IS DEMORALIZING
10QSB/A: WELLSTONE FILTERS INC /DE/
By Edgar Online - (EDG = 10Q, 10K)
Last Update: 12/12/2003 12:15:52 PM Data provided by
(EDGAR Online via COMTEX) -- Item 2.MANAGEMENT'S DISCUSSION AND ANALYSIS OF RESULTS OF OPERATIONS AND FINANCIAL CONDITION
We have never received revenues from operations. Currently our operations are being funded by shareholder advances. These shareholder advances totalled $85,456 as of September 30, 2003. Until we receive funding from outside sources, such as debt or equity financing, we will continue to have limited operations. We are seeking $3 million in initial funding to finance the first 12 months of our business plan as follows:
Testing Facility. All cigarettes sold in the United States must be tested for levels of nicotene, tars and other chemicals present in each formulation of tobacco and filter. Testing is accomplished with machines that mechanically smoke sample cigarettes and record chemical levels. In order to assure comparability between tests and testing centers, testing must be conducted according to rigid conditions, and testing machines must be correctly configured, calibrated and certified. Since we plan to sell the filter with numerous tobacco formulations, we decided it would be cost effective to establish our own testing facility. This testing facility could also generate revenue for us from outside testing contracts. Cerami Consulting Corp., a company affiliated with our President, has experience in conducting scientific tests but no commercial experience in cigarette testing. We would need to hire three to five persons for this testing facility.
About five persons will be needed to be hired for general and administrative functions.
We need to produce small quantities of test filters for marketing and testing. Initially it will be more cost and time effective to produce filters by hand. However, within one year of funding we expect to have established a prototype manufacturing facility. We can then better determine our production costs and feasible levels of production.
We intend to hire three persons to assist in marketing our filter technology. We will also have significant general and administrative expenses for salary, legal and regulatory expenses.
We hope that after testing and marketing 3C904 for one year we will be able to obtain a supply contract with one or more cigarette or filter manufacturers, but it might take significantly more time than one year. We might also never be able to sell 3C904 in significant quantities. The terms of any supply contract have not been determined and will depend on negotiations.
We do not have any agreements or understandings with respect to sources of capital. We have not identified any potential sources. Its likely that we will not be able to raise the entire amount required initially, in which case our development time will be extended until such full amount can be obtained. Even if we are successful in obtaining the required $3 million, we probably will need to raise additional funds at the end of 12 months.
We are a development stage company as that term is defined in paragraphs 8 and 9 of SFAS No. 7. Our activities to date have been limited to seeking capital; seeking supply contracts and development of a business plan. Our auditors have included an explanatory paragraph in their report on our financial statements, relating to the uncertainty of our business as a going concern, due to our lack of operating history or current revenues, its nature as a start up business, management's limited experience and limited funds. We do not believe that conventional financing, such as bank loans, is available to us due to these factors. Management believes that it will be able to raise the required funds for operations from one or more future offerings, and to be able to effect our business plan. However, Management believes that Wellstone's ability to raise significant amounts of financing, including the $3 million required as set forth above, will be dependent on favorable capital markets and also on obtaining either a small supply contract or other validation of our technology by an independent source, and other risks inherent in the business as discussed under the caption "Risks and Uncertainties" in our Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2002 may affect the outcome of Management's plans.
When used in this Form 10-QSB, the words "expects," "anticipates," "estimates" and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements. Such statements are subject to risks and uncertainties, including those set forth under "Risks and Uncertainties" in our Form 10-KSB for the year ended December 31, 2001, that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected. These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date hereof. Wellstone expressly disclaims any obligation or undertaking to release publicly any updates or revisions to any forward-looking statements contained herein to reflect any change in the Company's expectations with regard thereto or any change in events, conditions or circumstances on which any statement is based. This discussion should be read together with the financial statements and other financial information included in this Form 10-QSB.
Dec 12, 2003
PPS is down to 200 DMA;20 DMA is converging with 200 DMA and we are overdue for news.We have a strong rally coming this week.
Mark
Chart says we are way overdue for a substainsial move
200 DMA and MOs trial of Moroboro Ultra's
Perhaps I'm a creature of habit but I seem to typically pop over to stockcharts.com and barchart.com for quick reference. I'm sure you are already familar with those sites. What site do you enjoy?
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I like to use Clearstation.If you select "interactive graph" you can display several MAs;volume;RSI;and use a plethering of chart styles.I like Barchart too;but it has nothing on the mechanics of Clearstation.
Try it
www.clearstation.com
PS:I am now quite certain the new Moroboro Ultra Smooths will have Wellstone Filters.I belive probably Wellstone has been told to keep it quiet.It just seems to much of a coincedence that WLSF announces contract negotiations with MO;then a few months later MO has a new low tar filter ciggarette trial going on.Since WLSF has not announced the trial;I dont expect them to until the trial is over and MO has signed a contract with WLSF.Till then I guess we have to be content with the cigg. distribution news.
The other side of the MO trials is that they rejected Wellstones product in favor of their own low tar filters.That would explain why WLSF suddenly went from a filter company to a ciggarette maker.Lets hope that is not the case.
When the good news does start;it will be a waterfall.One after another and it will be huge.Till then it is going to be boring and the PPS will continue to droop (that is indeed droop and not drop).Id sure like to know when the MO trials begin and how long it is expected to last.There is huge money to be made here;but peoples loyalty is going to get tested in the meantime.
Godbless;
Mark
Perhaps I'm a creature of habit but I seem to typically pop over to stockcharts.com and barchart.com for quick reference. I'm sure you are already familar with those sites. What site do you enjoy?
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I like to use Clearstation.If you select "interactive graph" you can display several MAs;volume;RSI;and use a plethering of chart styles.I like Barchart too;but it has nothing on the mechanics of Clearstation.
Try it
www.clearstation.com
PS:I am now quite certain the new Moroboro Ultra Smooths will have Wellstone Filters.I belive probably Wellstone has been told to keep it quiet.It just seems to much of a coincedence that WLSF announces contract negotiations with MO;then a few months later MO has a new low tar filter ciggarette trial going on.Since WLSF has not announced the trial;I dont expect them to until the trial is over and MO has signed a contract with WLSF.Till then I guess we have to be content with the cigg. distribution news.
The other side of the MO trials is that they rejected Wellstones product in favor of their own low tar filters.That would explain why WLSF suddenly went from a filter company to a ciggarette maker.Lets hope that is not the case.
When the good news does start;it will be a waterfall.One after another and it will be huge.Till then it is going to be boring and the PPS will continue to droop (that is indeed droop and not drop).Id sure like to know when the MO trials begin and how long it is expected to last.There is huge money to be made here;but peoples loyalty is going to get tested in the meantime.
Godbless;
Mark
Posted by: Scovillez
In reply to: confedrate who wrote msg# 1044 Date:2/22/2005 9:59:23 AM
Post #of 1046
I find the 200-MA at .67
THAT WOULD DEPEND TOTALLY ON WHAT TIME FRAME YOU VIEWED THE GRAPH;AND FOR THAT MATTER WHAT GRAPH YOU USED.
200 day moving average is .75
We should be able to hold this;how long we slide sideways on this until we go up is anyones guess.I do have high hopes for the new Moroboro filter;although I am a bit confused about the "nature of the filters design".
I do think it is too much of a coincedence.The timing;the "new filter design". All too much.
Where did the Chicken Little come from ???????????-see quote below.
Uh-oh...more insider selling. I was a little unsettled at the last sale. I am definitely anxious at this one. Major chunk and right after the last. And this after the S-8. One more like that and I will be headed for the door.
Looks like we might have another BB tragedy in the making here.
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The manufacture of the cigg. and filters have to be funded somehow.Either they can raise the cash thru selling some shares or they can dilute the existing ones.Simple.One would think a person would think this thought to fruition before the Chicken Little routine.
THIS INVESTMENT IS 100% ABOUT LIABILITY.
I BELIVE IF WELLSTONE'S FILTERS DO ACTUALLY REDUCE DRAMATICALLY THE AMOUNT OF CARCINOGENS IN CIGARETTE SMOKE POTENTIAL LIABILITY DICTATES WITHIN A FEW YEARS EVERY CIGARETTE SOLD IN THE WORLD WILL HAVE TO HAVE A WELLSTONE FILTER ON IT.THAT IS SIMPLY PUT THE ENTIRE REASON I AM INVESTED IN THIS STOCK.WLSF COULD GO TO .02/SHR AND I WOULD NOT WAVER IN MY BELIEF THIS IS GOING TO MAKE ME RICH WITHIN A MAXIMUM OF 4 YEARS.I ALSO BELIVE SOME GOVERMENTS IN SOME STATES AND OTHER COUNTRYS WILL MANDATE WELLSTONE TECHNOLOGY IN EVERY CIGARETTE SOLD IN THEIR JURISTICTIONS.
BELOW IS AN ARTICLE ABOUT LIABILITY IN AMERICA.ANYONE WHO WISHES TO COPY IT HAS MY PERMISSION TO DO SO AND CAN REPRODUCE ANY OF MY POSTINGS AS THEY MIGHT WISH TO WITHOUT RESTRICTION.IT IS PLAIN SHARING AND IT IS MY PLEASURE TO DO SO.ENJOY THE BELOW ARTICLE AND GODBLESS ALL OF YOU.
MARK
SAN RAFAEL, Calif. (Feb. 12) - McDonald's Corp. will pay $8.5 million to settle a lawsuit accusing the fast-food giant of failing to inform consumers of delays in a plan to reduce fat in the cooking oil used for its popular french fries and other foods.
BanTransFats.com, a nonprofit advocacy group, sued McDonald's in California state court in 2003, alleging the company did not effectively disclose to the public that it had not switched to a healthier cooking oil.
In September 2002, McDonald's announced it would lower trans fat in its cooking oils and said the switch would be completed in five months. In February 2003, McDonald's announced a delay. The lawsuit accused the Oak Brook, Ill.-based company of failing to adequately inform consumers of that delay.
The agreement announced Wednesday requires McDonald's to pay $7 million to the American Heart Association to use the proceeds to educate the public about trans fats in foods. Heart-clogging trans fat is made when manufacturers add hydrogen to vegetable oil - a process called hydrogenation.
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Wednesday's settlement also requires McDonald's to spend $1.5 million publicizing that it has not followed through on its 2002 pledge.
Additionally, the company will pay $7,500 to BanTransFats.com and $7,500 to Katherine Fettke, who had filed a separate complaint against McDonald's and has also agreed to settle.
McDonald's has reduced the amount of trans fat in its Chicken McNuggets, Crispy Chicken and McChicken sandwiches, said spokesman Walt Riker.
He said the company is working to reduce trans fat in its other fried foods.
"We're continuing to test. We want to make sure we get it right for our customers,'' he said.
02-12-05 00:17 EST
Intresting on level-2.There are lots of buyers lined up;but no sellers.Just a few at $1.01 and a few at $1.07;then nothing till $1.10 . There are tons of buy orders lined up but there are just no sells even if the buyers wanted to step up and pay the ask.
Wellstone line as well as to supply other manufacturers who may choose to
license the product
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Thats what we are hoping for.In the next couple months we will be making cigarettes.Shortly thereafter we will have reportable earnings and then we will move to Nasdaq.The "other manufacturers" are the wildcard.Thats what we need to really blow this stock out of the water.
i noticed an article twice on the news where the cigg companys are making cigarettes with special paper so they self extinguish.They only sell them in NY where the law requires it;but with the media pressure i suspect it is forthcoming nationwide.That is what I am hoping for Wellstones filters.Lets not forget too there is a worldwide market to be adressed too
Posted by: SmokingUSA
In reply to: None Date:2/4/2005 6:02:07 PM
Post #of 977
GUARENTEED WLSF will be flying within four to six days!!!
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I sure hope so SmokingUSA.Might I inquire what has prompted this ?????Is there some activity or news that brought you to this conclusion??? I would love to hear there is some basis for your positive prognostication.
Godbless
Mark
I believe any price appreciation substantially above the level of $1 may only be temporary (even in the event mgmt anounce contracts with P.Morris) - unless/until mgmt diverge new sales/contract forecast numbers
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I do belive the market is telling us plainly that WLSF is comfortable trading around a dollar;and I am fine with that for right now.Like sirius Satellite Radio;one can apply more valuation to a stock for intrinsic potential.
However;if and when WLSF announces a huge contract with PM;or FDA approval;the value of this stock with jump thru the roof in a matter of minutes;and that is worth a lot.
Worst case they become profitable quickly and sell a lot of cigarettes.Best case is astronomical.This stock having 6 message boards dedicated to it (a penny stock) should tell everyone something.
Godbless
Mark
Is ther a simpler formula than this one?
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You mean to valuate the stock?Of course there is.
Earnings divided by outstanding shares = PE - PE of 25 is generally acceptable.Personally;i usually watch a 50 DMA to tell me when to buy and what it is worth.
WLSF cant be valuated yet because it has no earnings.Sometimes a doorknob is just a doorknob
"Q" Why would Wellstone try and reduce o/s shares if a 3for1 forward split just occured? "A" Other investers called with the same concern and gave the website address for me to look at.
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That one leaves me totally lost in the sauce.i had no knowledge of a reverse split.is the the product of rumor?
I belive MS Barr is soon to regret trying to be so inclusive with all of us.I think she is going to get pummeled with questions about rumors that could eventually affect the stock price.
this stock will get off the OTC and go to the AMEX or NASDAQ. We're looking at some time though. If I was to guess, I'd say by the end of 2006 we should see, at the least, Wellstone filing with the SEC to do that.
We are on track to be a few dollars richer in a year or so.
You can be sure as soon as WLSF has reportable earnings;they will move to Nasdaq.We will have revenue to report at the end of the second quarter and that will be released by the end of July 2005.That will put us on Nasdaq by the end of August.
PPS? I would shoot for $5 by the end of 2005;very good return.remember;a filter contract OR CONTRACT PAYMENT ADVANCE qualifies as earnings and therefore will take us of the OTC.
I love this stock.I plan to be in this for a long;long;time.Everyone seems to be forgetting about the filter licensing to the major players.Good.I would like to get it in one enormous heave.
Godbless
Mark
Tomorrow will tell us a lot.
my analysis of the chart tells me that tomorrow will be telling.if we gap down and close lower;i belive we have flat or down down action for some time.If we gap up and close higher;we have considerable upside.
i might be going out on a limb but i belive we will gap up and make a move up surprising everyone;closing at/near the highs of the day.
The chart shows we are at a "hinge point".We go up long term or we go down.very decisive;no in between.I belive the technicals call for a pleasantly surprising day tuesday with considerable follow thru.
God bless
Mark
So, what happens to the people who do that and how can the stock get back to it's correct asking price
The SEC makes new rules that disallow people from shorting unless they can prove their ability to cover.That caused the short squeeze you saw the other day.people were forced to buy to cover on a lot of shares
A legitimite short position is when someone sells shares of the security they do not yet own;but have the intention to "buy to cover".They later buy the stock.
A naked short is when they cannot cover.It is a credit game and can adveresley affect a stocks price by piling up short intrest against the securtity;effectivley driving it down.
i AM NOT REGISTERED ON THAT BOARD;NOR WILL I TO APPEASE THAT COCKHEAD.I WOULD TELL THE GUY FIRST IT IS MORE THAN AN IDEA AS DEMOSTRATED BY THE AQUISITION OF MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION NETWORKS;AND CONTRACTS TO SELL TO.
SECONDLY I WOULD TELL THE GUY THAT IS HOW ALL BUSINESS'S START.THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN WLSF THEN THERE WAS IN TASR AT A COMPRABLE POINT IN GROWTH.IF THERE IS I SURE NEED IT EXPLAINED.
A PATENT OF NEW TECHNOLOGY
TESTING OF SAME
THE PROCURMENT OF CONTRACTS TO SUPPLY SAID TECHNOLOGY.
THE AQUISITION OF MANUFACTURING AND DISTRIBUTION CAPABILITYS.
I KNOW IT IS AGGREVATING;BUT YOU CANT DROP TO THE LEVEL OF EVERY POOPHEAD WHO TRASHES OUR STOCK.THAT SAME GUY WILL BE CHASING IT AROUND AT 8.00/SHR AND WORRY ABOUT GETTING IT A NICKEL CHEAPER ON HIS LIMIT ORDER.THAT OR HE WILL GO BROKE SHORTING IT.CAN YOU IMAGINE THE ASS WHIPPING ANYONE TOOK WHO SHORTED TASR EARLY ON--LOLOL
Thank you guys for sharing those other two message boards with me.How many BB stocks do you know of that have their own message board;let alone 3 of them ???-LOLOL-
On both of the other message boards I saw where Ameritrade streamer showed trading on WLSF just after the close of 1.10 .I went to streamer and level 2 and checked it out.Kinda wierd.it showed the "last" as 1.10;but it also showed the bid .99 and ask 1.01 - Thats wierd.It does look like someone stepped in with a big block trade and went up as far as they had to to get about 60;000 shares of WLSF.
I appreciate you listing the links for those two other message boards.I know it took a couple minutes of your time.lot of people would not have bothered.
In any case the bid/ask has been way lopsided in favor of sellers all day.Present is 3/75 bid and 2/10 ask.All day the buy side is lined with orders of 25;and sells of 5.Do you guys realize in a year or two it wont matter.it will just be a little wrinklein a chart line that will make newbies green with envy.
Near as I can figure Anthony Cerami filed to sell 790;000 shares of WLSF.That may have been what touched of the sell-o-rama.I'm not pressed.This is a stock you can just own and relax.You keep this for a year and you'll laugh looking back worried if it was $1 or $1.30
Godbless;everyone have a safe weekend.
Mark
I saw a post a while back about WSJ
WSJ is not a valid stock ticker.Anyhow sometime back i saw someone here post about Jan 21 that PM has signed some company "WSJ" a their filter supplier.I also notice WLSF started this big downturn about that time.Can anyone enlighten me as to whether there was any substance to this post???
Dont get me wrong;i expect the time frame 1-2 years will be explosive out of the water growth.But i couldnt help but put 2 and 2 together.
As I suspected;WLSF was illegally shorted and is on the SEC list of Nasdaq securities affected by it.i belive todays slide aside;it will bring us back to 1.30 in a very short order.You can view the list here
http://www.lovelandacademy.com/cmkx/NasdaqSHOworksheet.htm
Godbless
Mark
I'm kinda expecting a big sell off tomorrow from the day traders, but who cares..
I wouldnt hold you breath for that.The naked shorters are pretty much exposed as of tomorrow.Also the way WLSF bounced off its 200DMA was very healthy;and we have a good PR release today at 2:25 PM that has not yet been realized.I dont think there is anything between us and 1.40 now;just open air.
Also;although WLSF doesnent really trade after hours the orders for tomorrow are uptick 3/15 bids and 1/5 ask --1.06 and 1.07 respectivley on level2.That tells us at minimum the open will be strong.
I wish i could have come in at .80 but it happened pretty quick;not making .90 was my mistake however.
Great next 6 months coming.Product release in April and will have earnings to report in July.Also WLSF can list on Nasdaq once they have revenue.Dont forget PM trials should be out by then too.Maybe more big cigg makers looking at the filter and definatley a larger manuf/distr network will be in place.
New York state just made it law that ciggs sold there must be self extinguishing.Is it a stretch to belive a state or another country will make the filter design mandatory ???I dont think so.
Also;4 million shares today and a 30% move off the lows.This stock wont be bland again for a long time.The new players will keep it shaking for a while.I really like this stock more than any I have ever held and I am glad I got the opportunity to get back in with a few more shares of it.I am set to enjoy investing and make a lot of money.it's good to see all of you again.
NWAU just rose 300% in a week and 1/2-it is very easy to see us hitting a milestone where we will do the same.perhaps when distribution begins;or earnings come in.perhaps it is now.
Godbless
Mark