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I doubt many will put hand-written HTML tags into their posts beyond the italic, bold, and underline.
I didn't bash the site with the full range of tags, but was looking for a few that may get included by accident through a cut-and-paste. I didn't take time to hand-craft some hard-to-swallow HTML, designed to choke because I don't think that's what you're looking for.
I will try to post this note from the Preview window.
Edit 1. It worked OK
Edit 2. Making a minor change after clicking the red "15 Minutes" worked OK too.
NEW STUFF HERE...
Just adding some nested and some un-nested HTML tags.
During my attempts to post my earlier message, clicking EDIT would not only remove pieces of my post, it would ADD a bit too. The target="_new"http.... stuff wasn't there previously.
<OL
<LIOne</LI
<LITwo</LI
<LIMissing tag (but not required)
<LIThree</LI
<L Crippled tag
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Cheers, PW.
P.S.
While editing this post, a blue horizontal line appeared about two thirds the way down inside the editing box. Adding additional text made it disappear.
Returning from Preview, the formatting tags seemed to work OK. The ordered list was disregarded, (as it's not supported) but the closing right angled brackets were missing.
When I put a link into a post, I like to click it when pre-viewing -- I've been known to put the wrong one in and want to catch it. I-Hub appears to parse the link (and add colours) so even if it's OK, it chokes during a preview click.
I must check links after posting and make changes in the 15 minute window.
HREF="http://www.fredoneverything.net/Pilots.html" target="_new">http://www.fredoneverything.net/Pilots.html
When I tested this for this post, my system responded with a window with the message
Internet '#1111FF'>Exploree cannot open internet...
HREF="http://www.<font=color='/" target="_new">http://www.<font=color='/.
The server rueturned an invalid ...
When I clicked the Edit button, the I-hub window truncated my post near the beginning of the link.
<A HREF=
Was all that was left of the link.
NEW STUFF HERE...
During my attempts to post my earlier message, clicking EDIT would not only remove pieces of my post, it would ADD a bit too. The target="_new">http.... stuff wasn't there previously.
Cheers, PW.
When I put a link into a post, I like to click it when pre-viewing -- I''ve been known to put the wrong one in and want to catch it. I-Hub appears to parse the link (and add colours) so even if it''s OK, it chokes during a preview click.
I must check links after posting and make changes in the 15 minute window.
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Pilots.html
When I tested this for this post, my system responded with a window with the message
Internet Exploree cannot open internet...
http://www.<font=color='/.
The server rueturned an invalid ...
When I clicked the Edit button, the I-hub window truncated my post near the beginning of the link.
<A HREF=
Was all that was left of the link.
A few people may be wondering about my posting on the Gun thread. Since I don’t have a gun, nor do I know anything about them, it does seem strange. I’ll offer an explanation.
A couple of federal elections ago, our local Member of Parliament, (Roughly equivalent U.S. Congress) decided to retire from politics. Members of his party needed to find a replacement. At this same time, politicians were debating stricter gun regulations. A number of members of a local gun club attended our nomination meetings. This was my first exposure to these people.
One very outstanding characteristic of the gun people was the passion and commitment they possessed for their cause. Their opinions and beliefs with respect to this issue was unwavering. They seemed to think with one mind, speak with one voice, and act with one pair of hands. They gave new meaning to the word united. If there was any dissent among them, it was well hidden.
I knew nothing of their cause. As they began to articulate their position, a clear pattern emerged. In addition to their gun concerns, they stood for individual responsibility, law and order, good citizenship, and wise stewardship of taxpayer’s dollars. They believed that the privilege and responsibility of governing should be bestowed only on those who possess proper wisdom, ethics, character, and morals. They seemed uncomfortable with candidates who appeared too smooth, antagonistic toward the patronising fast talkers, and vehemently opposed to those who were supported by groups and organisations well known for applying political pressure. In short, they wanted their politics clean and honourable. (Fat chance!)
I soon realised that I shared a number of views with these people. Since opinions expressed by groups often carry more weight than those of individuals, I decided to support their cause. I had no love for guns. I also had no fear of guns. I viewed them as tools, designed for a work I never do. In my mind, they were like chain saws: just another noisy rural nuisance. (But at times, necessary!) I wanted support for my opinions, and they welcomed a female voice. The marriage worked.
Eventually, we selected a candidate whom everyone could support. Later, the federal election ended with a landslide victory for our opponents. Shortly after taking office, the new government updated Canada’s gun laws.
I’ve moved from my rural home into the city. Since moving, I never encounter people for whom this is a major issue. Then I stumbled onto this thread.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. The gun people seemed preoccupied with exposing some imaginary national hidden agenda of firearm confiscation. At that time, this view was treated as ridiculous silliness. Our new laws say that to own a gun, one needs a piece of paper from the government. What happens when our government refuses to renew an individual’s papers? (If it looks like confiscation, acts like confiscation, and smells like confiscation…)
P.P.S. This post seems far too serious. Maybe this will lighten things a little…
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=14463236
You should've seen the look on The Commander's face when a few days later, while we were torturing some neighbours with recent travel photos, the husband asks "Are you aware there's a roll of tissue under your dining-room table?"
It had rolled behind a leg and we didn't notice it.
Cheers, PW.
Once again, I wish to thank those who have helped me understand how revolvers work. Although I’ll probably never get to shoot one, I now have one in my possession. The Commander and I put it together ourselves. For anyone interested, here’s how – and it’s much quicker to do than to describe …
We made our revolver using centres from bathroom tissue rolls. You’ll need centres which will fit into one another snugly, but still allow movement. We used Royal Charmin for the small rolls, and Cottonelle for the larger. Other brands may work, but we have these two on hand and they’re sized perfectly for our needs.
Take seven Cottonelle rolls and stand them on end to form a circle, with six surrounding a seventh in the centre. Stick them together with Scotch tape. This will become the moving part where the bullets will reside. Gun people probably have a special name for this part, but for our purposes, we’ll simply call it “The Bullet Garage”
Still working with Cottonelle rolls and Scotch tape, stick one Cottonelle to a centre from a paper towel roll. (We used Scott towels, but I’m sure others will work just as well.) Now fit a Charmin roll into the Cottonelle roll about half-way, or a little less. It’s a good idea to Scotch tape it into place.
Now slide the part of the Charmin roll that’s sticking out into the centre Cottonelle roll of The Bullet Garage. The revolver is finished. Avon “Feelin’ Fresh” roll-on deodorants are the ideal size for bullets. Thirty-five millimetre film containers can be substituted, but the fit will be a little loose. (We value precision.)
Once the revolver is assembled and loaded, it becomes obvious how they work. One can see how each bullet is brought into firing position. One can see how the bullet journey begins in The Garage, proceeds through the barrel, and eventually, through the air.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. I didn’t say in my post that the tissue rolls are EMPTY tissue rolls. (I include this bit of information for the benefit of the anti-gun people: they’re such boneheads!)
P.P.S. Please note that the Cottonelle roll centres in the Bullet Garage will not be aligned with the barrel if the Charmin roll centre is taped directly to the barrel. The Cottonelle roll is needed here for proper alignment. If you’re going to build one, you may as well do it correctly.
P.P.P.S. I understand bullets are sent on their way propelled by a chemical reaction. If one wishes to discharge my revolver, they’ll need a quick hand and a stick. (I found a ruler works OK.)
P.P.P.P.S. Wyatt Erp fans will want to substitute a centre from a roll of wrapping paper for the paper towel centre. They’re twice as long. (The Commander suggested (and understands) this deviation from the plan.)
P.P.P.P.P.S More uses for bathroom tissue from the PW household
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=15364687
P.P.P.P.P.P.S. If anyone builds my revolver and then shoots themselves in the foot with it, their socks will smell nice for a few days.
P.P.P.P.P.P.P.S. I get silly on Saturdays!
Revolver stuff...
The picture helps. My husband made a revolver using the centre from a roll of paper towels as the barrel and a cluster of centres from bathroom tissue as the revolving part. The big difference for me was his demonstration separated the moving parts from the stationary.
Firing roll-on deodorant 'bullets' was not necessary. I got the picture.
Again, thank-you, and everyone on this thread for your kindness and patience.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. His first attempt at explaining it dealt with attaching (1812 war) fort cannons to a Ferris wheel, but he stopped when my eyes began glazing over.
The recent attempts at brain-to-bone communication on this thread have failed. Another approach is needed. This morning, while doing a bit of shopping, my wandering took me through the store’s magazine section. I thought I’d take a quick peek at a gun rag and, with luck, find a photo or two that would clarify the matter. The magazines were arranged alphabetically, an unusual decision, because magazines about Motherhood were next to those about Monster Trucks. I digress too much, and I know I do. Anyway, after finding Games, and Guitars, I felt my quarry was near at hand. To my surprise, the next topic was Houses, not Guns!
The guy looking after that part of the store was putting some new issues on the shelf. I must have appeared confused, because he offered to help. I told him I was looking for a magazine on Guns. He looked shocked. Once he regained his composure, he asked me what type of gun I had in mind. Not knowing an earthly thing about guns, I blurted out “Elephant Guns!” I wish I could describe the look on his face: It was priceless. Anyway, they don’t carry any magazines about guns. Nothing was lost because I didn’t intend to buy one, but only thumb through it for a moment.
Finally, I capitulated and asked The Commander. His dimes spent at the Saturday afternoon matinees paid off, because he was able to explain the matter. I now have a solid grip on the subject. It may be in error, but it’s solid just the same. He seemed puzzled about my new interest in guns. He also seems more considerate and polite now too.
I want to thank all those who have invested effort into explaining revolvers for me. Each provided different pieces of the puzzle, and with everyone’s help, a picture emerged.
Again, Thank-you.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. I’m sure I said Elephant Gun because I recalled a child’s riddle “How do you shoot a blue elephant?” “With a blue elephant gun.” The rest goes like this: “How do you shoot a pink elephant?” The wrong answer is to suggest using a pink elephant gun. “Hold his trunk until he turns blue, then use the blue elephant gun” was correct.
I don't know if this belongs on this thread. Perhaps, if we take an axe and knock off some of the protruding corners and wiggle it a bit, we could get it started. Then, a few whacks with the blunt end could lodge it in place. With luck, it would stay.
Anyway, Bob informs us that I-Hub has plenty of disk space, so we may as well fill it up for him.
A couple of days ago, The Commander said he was heading to the mall. I thought I could save myself a trip by leaving him a note on his desk to pick up a couple of things. He arrived home empty handed. The trouble was, he didn’t see my note among the other papers. I thought of using coloured paper, but he already uses such a variety of papers that this wouldn’t be obvious enough. Sticking Post-It Notes to his monitor would work, but this would result in replies stuck to mine and I don’t want to encourage the idea. (A co-worker once had so many yellow Post-It Notes on her monitor it resembling a giant sun-flower.)
I was buying a new ribbon for my printer (Do printers still use ribbons?) when I discovered some notepads with black paper. This would be my answer. With some black paper stapled to my note, it would be difficult to overlook. I put some in my basket. I took a moment to check some other things and stumbled upon a display featuring gel pens. What caught my eye was one with white ink. I was delighted with the results from trying the sample pen on my paper; so I dropped the idea of stapled notes and opted for writing with white ink on black paper.
This morning, I wrote The Commander a note using my new supplies. When completed, I was very pleased with the results. I held it at arm’s length, partly to admire it, and partly to simulate how it would appear to him as he approached it from a distance. I noticed how much it resembled slates from my youth.
What we called slates, were pieces of slate, about the size of a sheet of writing paper, with a wooden frame. Some called them blackboards, while others called them chalkboards. We wrote on them with chalk. I think they were made of real, genuine, honest-to-goodness slate too. They sure passed the fingernail test with flying colours. Just thinking about running my nails down them still gives me shivers decades later.
I get lost in daydreams easily. My mind wandered from the personal sized slates at home to the classroom-sized blackboards in school. I can remember as clearly as if it was yesterday, the first time I saw the teacher approach the board with a piece of chalk. It looked a foot long. As kids, our chalk pieces were always tiny; as they endured being dropped, stepped on, and fought over. Mother realised how easily chalk would slip through tiny fingers and get lost, so she dispensed it only after breaking it into quarters. Another memory related to the blackboards at school was the brushes.
At home, we’d clear the slate (I wonder if this is where the saying originates?) with our hands, or forearms. The brushes used to clean the blackboards at school seemed a minor miracle. When their task was completed both the board and the teacher emerged clean. At home, we’d have chalk on our board or chalk on ourselves, and sometimes both. The brushes contained striped felt, and after using the brushes, the red and blue would be pastels. The teacher would choose students to clean the brushes during recess.
We cleaned the blackboard brushes by clapping them together. We were rewarded with a white mini-cloud of chalk dust. It was also an opportunity to make plenty of noise. The clapping sound would echo between the school and the church next door. Since the sound resulted from official activity, we continued without interruption. Because this privilege was always granted to pairs, a spirit of competition often erupted. Who would do the best job? Who would make the most noise? But the big question was always who would be asked next?
Do schools still use chalk and blackboards in junior grades? When I attended University, the overhead projector and transparency seemed to have replaced them. My parents used slates at school, but I began writing using a very thick short green pencil with an equally thick (and soft) lead. (I wish I had kept a few of those pencils to use today when my hands hurt.)
This morning, my note didn’t disappear on The Commander’s desk. He seemed delighted to discover it. He sprang into my office and announced that it reminded him of the slate he had as a kid. We shared some old experiences. He was never chosen to clean the brushes, a job reserved for the well behaved students. Attempting to offset his childhood disappointment, I offered to let him clean the shower. He declined.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. This was originally posted as http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=17091905 on the SI Amuse Me thread.
...Stupid would be, not asking question , but making judgements about gun owners based on not being informed.
I'm making a judgement...
There's a whole lot more to know about this stuff than the one learns from the media or schools.
Thank-you for the assistance.
Cheers, PW.
Thank-you for answering my question.
I've received two replies. Both answer my question with precision. Maybe too much precision.
Maybe this will help ...
Can anyone think of a movie (A Western would be better than a crime drama, which I seldom watch.) where these guns appear? Or better yet, where one is shown being used. (close up, not some guy on top of a mountain)
A suggestion...
If it wasn't a revolver, what could it be?
Perhaps with an overall picture in my mind, I'll be able to fit the pieces of the puzzle together.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. Maybe the reporter who wrote the news item knows less about this than I do.
P.P.S. This 'cocked' stuff -- is it where the term "going off half-cocked" comes from.
P.P.P.S. I've used the term 'cocked' to mean 'crooked' or 'slanted', such as "he cocked his head to avoid bumping the tree branch." The British sometimes use the word in a bragging sense, like the 'cock' or rooster crowing.
P.P.P.P.S. After reading your reply over and over and over, I think I get the idea. Does Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry use a revolver? (I though Harry used a 44 and the fat guy sat on a 45.)
I'll need a translation, since some of this doesn't register.
This being a revolver puzzles me. It puzzles me too. What's a revolver?
he must have had id cocked The gun or the cushion? I assume 'id' was mistyped.
A double action pull from sitting on a cushion. What's this? I sit on cushions from time to time.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. These are probably really stupid questions.
This may interest some on this thread...
Unfortunately, I-Hub sometimes chokes on this link. If this happens, cut-and-paste it to your address box, or type it in. (But click it first)
http://www.sptimes.com/2002/02/19/NorthPinellas/Owner_s_weight_set_gu.shtml
Cheers, PW.
...Had you been posting since you joined you would probably be number one...
Maybe, if all my posts were under the same ailias...
Cheers, PW.
P.S.
Oops! Maybe I shouldn't have posted this. I consistently spell ailias wrongly.
I knew the list was flawed from the beginning. It was easy to tell. I was never on it.
Cheers, PW.
...does my grandfather status in Ihub hold for life...
Do women I-Hub members get GrandFather status too?
Cheers, PW.
It looks like some opposition to the longer editing window is appearing on another thread.
I supported your decision to remove some of the 'time pressure' on posting because I believed it would make it easier for people to review their contributions and make improvements. I felt that better written posts would have more value to both the reader, who could concentrate on the issue under discussion and not waste effort deciphering what was meant from what was written, and the writer, who, once seeing her words on the screen, may also see the areas where she could've expressed herself clearer.
However, I overlooked the all too human tendency to exploit whatever advantages present themselves, even if it brings an overall deterioration to the quality of the site. I viewed the longer editing window as an opportunity to improve my posts. I failed to see it would also present an opportunity for unscrupulous posters to weasel away from their words and excape accountability for what they post.
I still support your decision for a longer editing window. I-Hub management will need to decide who will be best served: those who try to create quality posts, or those who are attempting to scam fellow members or inflate their self image as some all-knowing savant.
I take some comfort in observing that you haven't been pushed around by bullies in the past. Whatever you decide in this matter, you have my support.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. I'm seldom pleased with my first attempt at most things. Internet posts are no different.
I think the extra five minutes of edit time is a good idea. When one has a dial-up brain in a broadband world, they need all the help they can get.
Cheers, PW.
Duct tape body repair...
Finally!
I have a logical reason to buy a silver car. And it makes more sense than wanting something to match my hair.
Cheers, PW.
Write a better one.
Them thar's fightin' words...
I wanted some features that I couldn't find in any of the commonly used office suites, so I wrote my own. Talk about a learning experience. I thought the word processor was a challenge, but I changed my mind after the spreadsheet. (These things are tough!) Fortunately, I don't need a database. I am convinced that most people have little idea of how difficult writing a major piece of software can become. The coding can be tricky, but the challenge is the design and functionality choices (trade-offs) that must be considered.
So --- I'm very reluctant to criticize the work of others.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. I like your site. I find it a pleasure to use. If I had one teeny-weeny complaint, it would be that the tasks are completed so fast I'm not sure whether the work has been done, or if I just blinked.
The first eight words become my post's introduction, so I must be careful how I begin...
The Spell Checker
Eye halve a spelling chequer
It came with my pea sea.
It plainly marques for my revue
Miss steaks eye kin knot sea.
Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it to say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait a way.
As soon as a Mist ache is maid,
It nose be four too long
And eye can put the err or rite
Its rare lea ever wrong.
Eye have run this poem threw it,
I am shore your pleased to no,
Its letter perfect awl the weigh,
My chequer tolled me sew!
It passed!
Cheers, PW.
The first eight words become my post's introduction, so I must be careful how I begin.
In my opinion, people read and digest commentary most readily when it expresses opinions which parallel those already held. They are looking for confirmation of their beliefs and they are pleased when they find it.
Next, people read commentary to gain some understanding of an unfamiliar issue. These people have an open mind and are fertile ground to plant ideas. These ideas may take take root quickly, but they lack depth and may wither at the first opposition. To flourish, the new ideas need support. They also need testing, because every time they withstand testing, they become more solidly entrenched. Eventually, opinions that were once a bit strange and new become part and parcel of one's personality. (On the gun issue, I'm somewhere in the middle of this process.) People in this group are wise to seek opposing opinion early in the process. This may enable them to avoid the need of extensive backtracking later. Although these people are the fewest in number, they are the most valuable audience, for they are the only ones who may be influenced by the debate -- either way.
Lastly, people read commentary in search of ammunition to expose weaknesses in thinking they oppose. Their minds arrive already made up. They're looking for a fight, and they usually get one. I feel any attempts to communicate with this group is a total waste of effort. As the mound of logic and facts assembled aginst their opinions grows higher and higher, they reinforce their resistance to absurd levels. Engaging these people is an excercise in frustration.
After reading your post, I think that you're already familiar with people from my last category.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. I've been known to shout at pages, slam the book shut, thump it down on the table, and walk away in disgust when I disagree with the author. I admit this isn't logical, but I'm only human. (I also click my mouse on 'NEXT' a little firmer after reading an annoying post.)
Maybe this fits this thread...
http://www.fredoneverything.net/Guncontrol.html
Cheers, PW.
...But at this age, you should be over PMS, shouldn't you?
I don't have PMS, I am PMS.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. When a condition is discovered that explains all manner of behaviour the world at large finds unpleasant, that condition is assigned blame far beyond it's legitimate responsibility. SO... When one discovers a suitable scapegoat which relieves them of responsibility for their conduct, they are profoundly reluctant to admit that it's effective lifetime has limits and that it's time to shoulder the blame themselves. In this light, we see that age offers no relief from PMS.
P.P.S. Does anyone notice how my sentences tend to go on and on and on and on... I was educated in an age when spelling and grammar enjoyed greater emphasis than they do currently. But one would be hard pressed to recognize this from my posts.
P.P.P.S. Can anyone recall the 'jingles' we learned as kids to help us remember the rules?
I before E except after C.
Thirty days has September, April, June, and Novmber.
All the rest has thirty one
Except February, (where my memory ends)
I haven't written any stories for quite a while. What usually happens is that someone posts something that triggers some memory that I find amusing and wish to share. I'd dearly love to write again, but without the proper inspiration, I'm afraid it would lack the spontaneity and spirit I've come to enjoy from my posts.
The posts on this thread are very thought provoking. I enjoy the debate. When I have something I feel will add to the thread, I'll not hesitate to contribute.
Cheers, PW.
P.S. Those who know me from Silicon Investor may have observed that I've reduced my posting activity there too. Same reason.
P.P.S. I've heard that those in charge of IHub are pleased with the speed of their site. I must say I agree with their assessment. It seems blazingly fast, has many nice features, and is a joy to use.
Membership qualifications. Let’s see if they are enough…
1. Slide rule. We didn’t BUY slide rules. We used hand-me-downs. The cursor was usually scratched away above the C and D scales. The one I used was either bone or ivory and yellowed. The ‘lucky’ kids used the newer plastic ones which were still white.
2. We not only used the punch cards, we used switches and lights to get the thing to boot. And God help us if we made a mistake along the way – we’d need to start over again.
3. Cuba was too far away to care about. It was just another thing the teachers were worked up over. Like chewing gum, duck-tail hair, poodle skirts, and Elvis.
4. Nixon-Kennedy. Disqualified. Canadians don’t usually vote for U.S. presidents
5. Beatles. No. I didn’t care for Ed Sullivan show, and didn’t watch it. Would’ve liked to see the Beatles appearance, but didn’t. Did enjoy watching parents tortured by the kids wearing Beatles hairstyles immediately after.
6. We don’t have AARP here. I get ‘Seniors Discount’ at McDonalds without asking.
Cheers, PW.
Sorry about the delay in getting back. I really should develop the habit of checking this site more regularly.
Cheers, PW.
Hi!
Mind if I join the keyboard art club?
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Cheerio, PW.