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Has anyone heard any rumors of frank tendering an offer to buy back the company?
cyber,
I don't know about evryone else but I agree with you. I hope something is coming in the new year. They certainly have been quiet.
Good luck to you, Joyce
Thanks vic,
We really need some news soon. I can't understand why the stock price has dropped.
Good luck all, Joyce
john
I heard it was over 90%. Have a good Thanksgiving, I know I will.
Good luck to all, Joyce
I couldn't resist copying
from the RB board:
By: investoil06
15 Nov 2006, 02:49 AM EST
Msg. 7494 of 7507
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Food for Thought
The more I think about this sale and the more belated due diligence I do, the more the whole situation bothers me. It seems, despite unanimous claims on this board that everyone wants this sale to go through; there are people who seemed determined to stop it. I hope, I really hope, I am completely wrong.
As I said before the only reason I can think of is that anyone would want to stop the sale is to try to force Energytec into bankruptcy. Either they are so vindictive that they are willing to see all the investors in WI, ORR and shares lose all their investment just to get revenge on current management – or they believe that Energytec going into bankruptcy will stop lawsuits in which they are defendants. The latter makes more sense to me.
If the defendants are confident they are innocent, or at least have acted ethically then they shouldn’t be so worried about the lawsuits that they try to bankrupt Energytec to avoid them.
I was in the court house again today and stopped by the clerk’s office. What I found disturbed me.
As of this afternoon there have been 25 assignments sent in by 16 individuals or entities. Most have been officially accepted except two who were short funds and I believe the county clerk has contacted them to fix the problems. When they are accepted and stamped with the document number they are legal. The actual recording process will take much longer as it takes the clerk who does the recording more than a day for each assignment and the clerk has other duties. This isn’t the Dallas court house. That delay is because they have to enter about 130 detailed handwritten entries in the abstract books for each assignment.
This is what I found disturbing. Of the 13 individuals who are NOT defendants in the Energytec lawsuits the working interests ranged from 0.0625% to 0.3125% totaling 1.74% WI. The defendants who have sent assignments for recording had a total of --- well read for yourself. I will not use individual names but will use the correct company names - one downside of recording is it becomes public record (I also found out how much money my neighbor had to borrow for his new irrigation system).
Mr SM – 0.359% WI
Mr MS – 0.300% ORRI
Mr MS – 1.417% WI
Mr MS – 0.75% WI
Mr JS – 0.25% WI (Mr JS is not a defendant but has the same last name as Mr MS)
WYO-BIG OIL WE DIG LLC (formerly known as Petito Dynasty Enterprises Group) – 0.2083% WI
WYO-BIG OIL WE DIG LLC (formerly known as Petito Dynasty Enterprises Group) – 0.2083% WI (2nd assignment)
Petito Dynasty Enterprises Group – 0.833% WI
And yes, WYO-BIG OIL WE DIG LLC is spelled in all caps.
The assignments do not state the price paid. Did these people pony up the same bucks as other investors for their share? Hope so.
Obviously there are a lot more WI still out there so maybe this isn’t as appalling as it seems. Or maybe Energtec can vouch they paid their full share. Incidentally, there are about 6.5% to 7.0% of ORRI that predate Energytec’s involvement. These were issued to the people who put together the leases before Energytec bought them, probably as part of the purchase price.
A note on the Sales Agreement and the subsequent 8-K
The original Sales Agreement signed Oct 31 contains Schedule 3.1A – Escrow Agreement. So there always was an escrow agreement although I don’t know the details. Nothing in the 8-K indicates any change to the Escrow Agreement, in fact it states;
“The agreement provides for the purchase price for the property to be placed in escrow and the proceeds to be distributed directly to the third party interest owners on the basis of their respective interest and to Energytec. In other words, Energytec will not receive any funds due to any third party who holds an interest. Those parties will be paid directly out of the escrow account.”
So claims that the agreement has been changed under pressure do not fit with the facts as we know them. An escrow is standard operating procedure for this type sale and would almost certainly be required by the purchaser even if Energytec hadn't put it in.
Also an 8-K has to be attested to by corporate officers. This is similar in consequence as giving testimony under oath. So when the 8-K states;
“…..Energytec is advised that the proposed purchaser of the Wyoming Project has received communications from certain third party interest owners threatening to disrupt the closing or take other unfavorable action….”
I take it as PROOF that Energytec was so informed by the purchaser.
Also while I was at the court house today I ran into an acquaintance who is a lawyer and part time county judge. A few years ago he got a mineral right in lieu of legal fees which coincidently happens to be partially under Energytec’s leases, as is mine. I was filling him in on the ongoing saga, what I had found and mentioned the “brigade” and the Nevada meeting that have been discussed on this board. We were kidding about the whole thing when he suddenly had a thought and said he had never had the chance to go after some one on a RICO statute.
So I went home and looked up some RICO information that I thought I would share.
Under RICO, a person or group who commits any two of 35 specific crimes and which in the opinion of the US Attorney bringing the case, has committed those crimes with similar purpose or results can be charged with racketeering. Some of those crimes include mail fraud, wire fraud, bank fraud, extortion (such as the “brigade” demanding the company fire certain individuals before they will sign), and my personal favorite;
“RICO could be alleged if it can be shown that lawyers and/or their clients conspired and collaborated to concoct fictitious legal complaints solely in retribution and retaliation for themselves having been brought before the courts.”
I don’t think slavery applies but obscenity might. [That’s sarcasm for those of you who might take that literally].
Those found guilty of racketeering can be fined up to $25,000 and/or sentenced to 20 years in prison. In addition, the racketeer must forfeit all ill-gotten gains and interest in any business gained through a pattern of "racketeering activity."
And the crown jewel:
The act also contains a civil component - Section 1964(c) - that allows plaintiffs to sue and automatically receive judgment in the amount of three times their actual damages plus their costs and attorneys' fees if they are successful. The provision for private parties to sue says; a "person damaged in his business or property" can sue one or more "racketeers." This lawsuit, like all Federal civil lawsuits, can take place in either Federal or State court.
When the U.S. Attorney decides to indict someone under RICO, he has the option of seeking a pre-trial restraining order or injunction to prevent the transfer of potentially forfeitable property. I don’t know if this applies to a civil suit under RICO.
I like the part about treble damages although I doubt the conspirators, even with the millions they may have gotten from “commissions” and possible giveaways or discounts of WI and ORR, will have $300,000,000. Proving damages is the easy part if the “brigade” is successful at stopping the sale, actually proving they did it maliciously is harder.
The holding of secret or closed meetings, intimidation of participants in the transaction, filing frivolous lawsuits, threats of lawsuits, etc all fit perfectly into the RICO statute. The interstate nature of the transaction, meetings, etc. opens it up for federal jurisdiction. But as normal, trying to get Justice Department involvement is a protracted affair. Filing a private suit under RICO (or other) laws can be done swiftly. I am not saying any of these allegations have actually taken place but certainly comments on this board, such as post 7166, and the information in the latest 8-K would indicate the possibility.
Obviously the best solution for ALL parties is that the sale goes through. The WI and ORR holders get their money, the stock holders gain stock appreciation, the Texas WI holders, put and private placement stock owners have a chance at compensation or at least a negotiated settlement and Energtec has the chance to be an oil company instead of funding the retirement accounts of a bunch of attorneys. The “brigade” doesn’t compound their legal problems and I don’t have to spend a bunch of time with lawyers. The alternative increasingly looks like everyone comes up with a big fat zero.
John
We should get there tomorro! I have everything crossed.
Luck to us all, Joyce
Yes, I want my money back. I think we will!
Gotta call from a friend. He has faxed in his
approval.
If you want to make your intentions known,
Fax this information to EYTC at (972) 789-5138.
Percentage working interest you own,
Address you want your packet sent to,
Phone number of the address where the packet will be
sent,
State the fact that you approve of the sale of the
Wyoming thermal project by EYTC,
Sign and date the letter.
Do it now!
Luck to you all, Joyce
You guys,
I have 50K of private offering at $2.20. They/we must get Frank off the board. As long as he is there and privy to all communication with buyers, he will and has done everything in his power to upset the deal. My broker says he has spoken to Don on several occasions (cell phone), he is very optomistic but discouraged by the antics of a few of the Frankites who constantly deride him. When all is done, I think he would welcome a new CEO. No one should have to endure the lambasting he has. I will talk to the two Peters and Steve about coming over here. Hopefully the (rages) won't follow!
Good luck, Joyce
Thanks!
I just can't abide what is going on over there. Keep me posted.
Your friend, Joyce
I came over here to get away from the drivel on the RB board.
Sorry I ever told anyone to post on that board. I miss the decent sane people that board was famous for. That is why I left Yahoo, constant attacks with no proof or information. you won't be seeing me there any longer. If anyone has any thing of worth to post, post it here.
Thank you and good luck, Joyce
Fianally good news,
Looks like the patience and belief in the company might just get some of our money back.
The assets are there and need to be sold. I expect to see a rise in share value, soon. I don't want to get ahead of myself, though. There is still plenty of work to be done.
Good luck to all of us, Joyce
tr8dervic,
If you would like to be moderator. Go for it. I have only a free subscription and can't post a private message.
Good luck, Joyce
tr8dervic,
Please go for it. Thanks, Joyce
YES!!!!
cyber,
really good to have you over here. My broker knows people at CWYR and so does foamius, remember him? I, too, like the fact that the company has a very low float. Since Kim handed over the reins to Wassim, they are planing new stratagies, maybe even an offering. So the price of the stock should go up soon. No one is selling any stock, thats for sure! I have about 50K, hoping it will tide me over while I am waiting for EYTC to do something.
Good luck and glad to see you, Joyce
Wish I did have any news!
Still waiting on the report.
Good luck, Joyce
Looks like we are going the wrong way!
I was told new and good things were happening, soon! What is up? Any information, please?
Good luck, Joyce
Anyone know anything?
What is going on here? I have been accumulating all the way down. Doesn't seem to be making any headway, though.
Hard to buy,
reason is that there aren't many shares in the float.
Not a thing!
Should be some news soon,I would expect.
Luck to you guys, Joyce (and me)
Found this yesterday:
http://quotes.freerealtime.com/dl/frt/print?symbol=HKBV&art=C2006051500135u6880&SA=Latest%20...
Joyce
At May 12, 2006, the Company had no revenues. These factors raise substantial doubts about the Company's ability to continue as a going concern without raising significant additional capital.
Exactly, what does this mean? We really are hearing the same thing, over and over.
I don't mean to sound harsh but are we drilling or producing any oil or gas?
This hasn't been a good week for me and I shouldn't take it out on you but show me the money!
Good luck to us all, Joyce
I don't think it will
I have been wrong before, though.
Good luck, Joyce
Are they drilling
Tiger yet?
Joyce
I am excited!
Have been for a few years. Started buying @.35, then @.25 all the way to $2.05. I really could use a break, here. My broker says not to sell. I don't need another EYTC happening. I believe in both companies but I need money to cover leverages. What is your target for CWYR? My broker seems to think it could be $5 or better. Hanging in there, Joyce
Vic
I don't know where your getting your info. Looks good, though.
Luck to us all, Joyce
Vic
Thank you, I looked everywhere for the report.
It really looks good, I needed some good news!
Joyce
Good to see other people here!
I am not posting much (waiting) for news. As we all are. Wish we could get newbie over here, he makes me feel a whole lot better.
Good luck to all, Joyce
Mark
My picks are mine, too. I agree. I must be crazy but I think we still have a good chance of coming back. We have sure been tested! It may take longer than we had hoped but we are hanging in there.
Kim
just acquired 6000 more acres and some new interest in his properties.
Things are about to turn around for both of these stocks. I am confident so is my broker.
Good luck and be patient, Joyce
Kim
just acquired 6000 more acres and some new interest in his properties.
Things are about to turn around for both of these stocks. I am confident so is my broker.
Good luck and patience will out, Joyce
This is an extremely interesting message. This property is close to CWYR. Same thing my be happening at our company.
http://custom.marketwatch.com/custom/earthlink-net/mw-news-companyreleases.asp?GUID={6D4E9194-3D18-4...
It's nice reading, Joyce
Very funny
Where have you been, we've missed you? Will you be going to the shareholders meeting? I am hoping it is in Dallas this year. Just don't like getting around in Houston. I see you guys have been getting quite a bit of rain, not us, the weather man keeps calling for it but it never comes to beautiful Southern California. Hope to see you at the meeting, Joyce
test
from my new pocket PC
Welcome everyone,
I hope this is only temporary, I can't see to post on the RB board.
As always, good luck, Joyce
Hey there,
We have an EYTC board here. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=9230659
I tried to post it on RB but it is not allowing me on the board.
See if you can get the info through.
Good luck, Joyce
So that's the reason
stock price went up. Your client still selling? Because if he sells for $.95 I will be able to buy, it should release my order.
Anyway, good luck and I haven't sold a share, Joyce
Yes I do,
think you of us would get executed. I bet if I raised my bid to $1.25 it would. Not going to do that, though.
Good luck, Joyce
Me too,
I have had an order to buy at $.95 for three weeks. My broker says to hold on, Kim has been traveling everywhere making contacts. I can't see why anyone would want to sell when oil is at this price per barrel. We are moving ahead, we got on the bulletin board. Thats the first step but if your guy wants to sell, let him. You can't go on holding the hands of worried people who shouldn't be in this to begin with. I am buying!
Good luck, Joyce
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