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That is a great picture and you illustrates the point perfectly. There is a tremendous amount of work to do to put something like a greenhouse on an existing roof. Number one , planning commissions will never go for a greenhouse on top the exterior wall because it would look terrible - and there is no way to service it from the outside when it’s over an exterior wall, it’s dangerous, how do people access the greenhouses for loading and unloading - ladders? New elevators? After all that you are building a whole other floor system to isolate it from the roof of the main building and to keep from adding load. But then bearing long spans somehow on existing interior open web steel trusses that were never designed for additional loads(especially a whole other floor system). You would have to do some major roof member strengthening in that Costco.
I am just saying the ramifications are very real and very complicated with this lofty idea and would vary greatly with each different building - but maybe they have it all figured out - but that would be very difficult since virtually every building is a different framing system
Yes I am sure they are qualified architects but the issues are still the issues and up front costs don’t magically disappear just because the idea sounds good
Anyways - hope they have it figured out since they put out some pretty significant press info about their plans
GLTA
Very few buildings have the roof designed as a floor..... ie allowing it to be a roof deck..... especially in non residential construction. Besides, vegetation loading are treated entirely different than walking around loads. These are two totally different things. Of course a roof can be designed for a garden roof - but that is the point - it’s usually done up front In The original design, not after the fact. It’s just not an economical thing to do given the strengthening. I only bring this up because it appears to be a MAJOR part of their business plan according to the PR. I am just trying to provide a little info from an engineering perspective on the proposed significant impact on existing buildings and how it could relate to their plans. I don’t mean to be a downer on it, just trying to be realistic and walk with eyes open about there future plans. PR’s are great, but then there is real life application and it happens Be a subject I deal with everyday.
Generally- just adding 4psf solar panels to a roof is about all that most roofs can take without strengthening, much less greenhouse, plants , water platforms anchorages for wind etc.
At any rate - you get the point , sorry for belaboring it
Wishing us all good luck
Flat roofs are not flat. They have a shallow slope to drain the water . Roofs are VERY rarely designed for ponding water generally. Once they pond, the roof sags and simply ponds more water - it’s self defeating . They are not designed as a pool . It’s a roof!
Your 7 ton units weighs about a 1000# and are about 5’x8,... that is 25 psf , potentially a fraction of the weight of a greenhouse.
Older building codes have nothing to do with trying to accommodate unusual rooftop loads like this. It will simply be a case by case basis, building by building. I am not saying it cannot be done , of course it can - it is just a very challenging prospect for any building and challenging to get permits. Ask Moralli yourself- I guarantee he knows this fact, there are no shortcuts
As mentioned before, I am as hopeful as any of this would be a a positive new direction for the company.
But Here’s Some Interesting insight into the rooftop greenhouse idea:
I am structural engineer and do a Lot of roof designs on commercial buildings. In fact I am doing a live roof design right now whereby a thin vegetation layer (6”)will be growing on top a fairly conventional roof. Generally speaking the weight of soil and vegetation on a rooftop can result in several times the weight of that Which the roof was originally designed for. Practically speaking, it means a tremendous amount of strengthening of existing roof structures if you want to put soil and vegetation directly on top of existing commercial roofs.... and that can be very expensive, time consuming, and be an significant interruption to a functioning businesses. Of course anything can be designed at a cost but in my opinion trying to get a building owner to strengthen a large part of their roof is a very tall order . This is precisely why you you don’t see a lot of superfluous things on rooftops. They are heavy , they can leak , they gather more wind loading....... all of these are very real impacts of adding anything to roofs and building departments will surely require full permitting for every application.
Take it for what it’s worth, but this kind of idea is not a slam dunk by any means for most building owners- in fact - it actually seems quite pie in the sky
Why would these guys want to have anything to do with EGOH? Why a merger?What does EGOH bring to the table? except its stellar reputation of course..
unfortunately that number looks familiar, and I am ashamed to say, $20,000 is how much I sank into this turd over the years...
Hoping for the best!
Selling strategy? Well....since I bought into EGOH at $1.21 in 2009 and then tried to buy it for a while on the way down, enduring the litany of stupid management, rumors of acquisitions, and mergers, failed everything.....what do you think my selling strategy should be?
hope. pray.
that someone decides to actual run the company instead of issuing complete garbage of PR's to the shareholders year after year to get us all excited...as it has spiraled down to .0001
is this just the next chapter?
its just a crap shoot. always has been, and things are not always as they appear to be.
you could probably see why I would want to warn people to be careful with their hard earned money. I respect that people work hard for their money and they should not waste it(IMO)....and they do not know the stellar history of EGOH
Whatever I write here has no implication on how the company is or is not being run and their decisions. They are going to do as they see fit.
these are just my very real experiences, sorry if they aren't quite as much fun as the prospect of a full solar revolution and a border wall
I certainly am not a savvy investor, but I got burned here big time and it cost me a lot of money.
Agreed. Lets hope we have real players.
Stuck? - this goes way deeper than going from .0001 to .0002 - and a chance to get out.
10 years, multiple CEO's, vast oil fields, oil wells, leases, hundreds of press releases, promises, talks of mergers and aquisitions, , billion share trade days, Reverse splits, book deals, celebrities, tequila, cannabis, pure mobility communication, technological breatkthroughs, future benefits to share holders...and the list goes on and on and on.....
Brian Wilmot, Ken Williams.....(that says enough right there)
and now, the knight in shining armor (who somehow works with Ken)rides in with solar for the border wall and a technology that will revolutionize the entire future of energy - really?
That would be really great, and believe me, I am as equally hopeful as any of you(probably more) - but I am just saying to beware to beware in all the enthusiasm here. Stockholder Enthusiasm is not a substitute for solid business planning and financial management, and so far, there has been absolutely NONE (just a scam by Ken) ...nor is posting a lot on this board somehow a measure of financial success or prowess...or has any impact on the daily operations, function, and management of a company.
Stuck....yes.....beyond stuck. I realize its my own fault for getting in. Always a gamble in Pinky land, but that does not mean we should not walk around in a fog ,learn lessons from the past, and go forward with eyes open.
time will tell. Good luck to everyone.
Totally Agree Lloyd -Until proven otherwise, this is just another large scale scam, but maybe more sophisticated with bigger names and ideas being thrown around to generate more excitement.
I have literally been stuck here for 10 years, and have seen many things come and go....and the stocks sits at 0.0001. And here we still are......at 0.0001.
Its just my opinion, take it for what its worth......10 years is a long time of watching the rot.
I am with ya...
I am celebrating 10 years in September holding this dog....No I am not kidding....10 years...bought in 2009 at $1.31 during Wilmot dynasty. Champagne anyone?
As a point of interest only(not anything in the way of technical info, but interesting nonetheless) I found this online.....see "Social Life" magazine, July 20, 2018 issue, page 158 and 159 for a little bit about the CEO of greenstreamfinancial...the article was written by Trace Adkins.
Running with big dogs
Are there any financial statements, reports, or filings available for this company?
for a supposed professional and technical company....that website was very rudimentary....that is red big red flag. There is nothing technical about that site and the attention to punctuation, capital letter, random characters, proper sentence structure is utterly terrible and looks like it was just thrown together. It is very vague. It really doesn't even hint at the sophisticated nature of what it takes to run a national financial company. The sample projects are silly, sometimes only a rendering..not even a project. A back yard trellis with solar panels?
while seemingly positive news....the Green Stream website appears to have been put together by a four year old.
What in the world would give you that feeling! Don't trust feelings here.
Wow!that is shocking behavior and communication from EGOH CEO Ken in that tweet toward a shareholder . How old are we Ken? Apparently we have a child at the helm who cannot remain poised enough to manage some simple shareholder communication. I own a business and understand real world decision making, and communication with the very people that support me and my engineering business. There is no room to act like a child. Business dies. Imagine how things might go if real world decisions had to be made to run a real company. Yikes. Very disappointing but not surprising
Grow up Ken, stop tweeting ridiculousness , start producing positive tangible results.
Do you notice the trend in Kens language:
"I will......"
"I can..."
"If I please..."
Theres nothing actually occurring here...which has been the problem for 10 years. its a total joke and a complete scam. Pump. Dump. Run people
FYI -
I sent an email to Nic Kamish at 375 Wall Construction to inquire about the nature of the "membership interest" contract noted in the EGOH press release dated 4/3/18.
Here is Mr. Kamish's response on 5/11/18:
Yes we are under contract for 40% Membership interest. But I have not seen anything from them so far as far as actually finalizing the deal.
Thanks,
Nic Kamish
CEO
375 Wall Construction LLC
307-299-6685 – Cell
432-276-3991 - Office
Nic.Kamish@375wall.com
www.375wall.com
..........Until proven otherwise, this stock is a joke. I have owned this stock since 2009 and cant get out. It NEVER moves. Next year I will be celebrating a full decade here. No congratulations necessary, the joy has been all mine.
I emailed the owner of .375 wall LLC to gain more information about its involvement with EGOH....no response yet.
What does acquiring a ..... "40% membership interest" really mean?
I emailed the owner of .375 wall LLC to gain more information about its involvement with EGOH....no response yet.
What does acquiring a ..... "40% membership interest" really mean?
Info on Nicholaus Kamish, the company, and his prior experience.
https://www.linkedin.com/company/375-wall-construction-llc/
" I couldn't do this with out my team and the backing of Ken Williams and Eagle Oil."
What a bunch of garbage. What did Ken do? What in the world does this have to do with EGOH.
twitter 2018: Dear Ken, who cares.
Don't hold your breath. I have had this treasure of a stock since 2009...it never moves. ever. move on.
This is what we are pinning our hopes on?!.... a vengeful relative with an axe to grind...sounds solid. Much better than a well orchestrated, well directed and implemented business plan to make a significant impact on a segment of the business world. oh well....i have owned the shares since 2009...may as well get some popcorn and watch the firework show.
I feel your pain....I have been 8 long years with this jewel....
And Fred Reed is taking pictures of the whole extravaganza!!Who has time to run a legitimate public company, Ken's party is just getting started! somebody break out the chips and salsa!
JUST TO MAKE YOU ALL FEEL BETTER, I BOUGHT THIS JEWEL IN 2009 AT A PRICE THAT WAS WELL ABOVE $.60 PER SHARE WITH OUR BUDDY WILMOT AND ALL THE PROMISE OF DEVELOPING WELLS IN TEXAS. FOR EIGHT YEARS I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO GET RID OF IT...EIGHT VERY LONG YEARS. THROUGH DIFFERENT CEOS, PROBABLY HUNDREDS OF "NEWS!!" POSTS, A COUPLE OF NEW COMPANY DIRECTIONS(EVEN HIGH SCHOOL YEARBOOK INVOLVEMENT - lol), SEVERAL DAYS OF BILLION SHARE TRADES....ALL THE WHILE WATCHING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF MONEY SLIP AWAY AND PRICE STUCK AT .0001 FOR YEARS. UNFORTUNATELY THIS COMPANY AND ALL ITS RIDICULOUSNESS HAS TAUGHT ME SOME VERY GOOD LESSONS. RUN. ITS A SCAM. IT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN ONE SINCE BEFORE 2009. APPARENTLY THE OWNER OF PENNY STOCK COMPANIES HAVE FIGURED IT OUT HOW TO ROUTE THEIR SHAREHOLDERS THEN RUN. AWESOME, THANKS EGOH. I WILL JUST STICK TO RUNNING MY ENGINEERING COMPANY WITH A HIGH SENSE OF MORALITY, FIDUCIARY DUTY, AND A KEEN SENSE OF RESPONSIBILITY TO FAITHFULLY SERVE THE CLIENTS THAT PUT THEIR TRUST IN ME. THAT MAY JUST BE TOO MUCH TO ASK IN THE PENNY STOCK WORLD I GUESS.
What in the world? What is that perverted, foul little embedded video clip in the link for Pure Ads? They also misspelled words in the Ad. Very nice and professional EGOH. How long did that take to put together? What a joke
EGOH is real funny. its nobobys fault but my own but I have lost many, many, many thousands of dollars with this company since 2009. I wish they would put away the humor and act like a real company, producing real products with real results. I am guessing some of the owners have laughed their way to the bank.
EGOH's image? Who cares! I think the performance and PPS is great indication that we are way beyond image. The only thing that matters now is real production.
I have held this stock for six years with nothing but empty press releases and downward spiraling pps - dont fool yourself -until EGOH company does something tangible, it will remain precisely where it is at.
If you still can, run far far away from this thing.
can anyone give an idea about why a company would do this kind of thing at this time in the life of their company?
Yes, that bumbling response is consistent the terrifying reality of this companies performance. Lets see...she works effortlessly???.....and all we really have is hope???? What ever happened to a solid business plan, carefully thought out and executed?
Can you please share where you are getting that information and how it might pertain to EGOH
thanks
How about a press release with some actual news about the company so that we can decide if there is actual value here or if this is just an overhyped day trade.