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I just do decks regular cleaning etc so ill stick with amazon for now especially considering enough sales will eventually cause amazon to do its algorthimic magic and autopromote ygiene.
Serious mold remediation requires licenses.
Which ill probably get at some point because its a hell of a racket what you can charge for true remediation. And even more so than that im actually interested in buying houses with mold problems for dirt cheap and rehabbing them.
Have any idea how much of a discount bigger quantities gets you?
Imo the real crime here is that this business is not just a pyramid that sells atrocious health products full of sucralose and way over priced relying on club members to purchase its products in the hopes of income.
The real crime is that its a gigantic front for money laundering.
Unfortunately this is something the fbi will need to investigate not bill ackman.
60% of their profits from latinos? A large portion from mexico?
Heres how it works.
You are a manager in a drug cartel in charge of many millions of dollars you must clean.
You start a nutrition club with a bunch of cartel guys as your first "customers". You use greed and intimidation to get others involved.
You give large amounts of cash to your nutrition club members so they can buy more product.
No one would ever in their life talk, because we all know what the cartel does to ppl who talk.
You think its a coincidence they found herbalife cards on some of the top bosses of the cartel a while back when they made a major arrest?
Theres no better way to launder money than this.
Operating in the us, they have to be more careful.
I have a herbalife "club" in my neighborhood though and lo and behold its run by a "former" criminal whos been to prison and has full sleeve tattoos with gang symbols.....
Herbalife "turned his life around"...
Lol i wonder how many ppl with criminal histories run nutrition clubs.
Thattta the angle they should go for.
The pyramid scheme? Well the market doesnt care yet because they dont care about morals they think hey a still legal but corrupt way to make money? Sign me up for that racket.
People love a good racket
It definitely works i use it to clean decks i only wish id waited and incested my capital now so i could have qn insane amount of shares.
My feeling is that this will suddenly explode at some point until then it languishes.
Thankfully they are on a revenue double every quarter.
Double from this level looks like nothing until you get to 100 k then your next quarter is 200 k 400k etc
Eventually you reach a tipping point where it moves at a faster rate than double also.
Right now they have no buzz.
They need a marketing team with capital.
These sales are right in line with what i expected. Sales will mostly likely double until they hit a tipping point of exponentially growing.
Man im no shorting this. I didnt even know a thing about herbalife before i got pulled into a store and threatened by a former gangster.
And had my car keyed lol.
Its a true story.
As for the parternship with banned substance control group that info can be found on herbalifes own website.
Don catlin is a actually on the herbalife nutrition institute editorial board.
http://www.herbalifenutritioninstitute.com/en/about-hni/board.aspx
Im not shorting anything. I just literally found out i live near a wellness club by walking down the street and being asked if i like nutrition and health. It then turned into a literal confrontation in which a crazy guy who says he was a criminal started threatening me.
Throwing around libel is some nonsense.
This is speculation from a random person.
That being said, the fact that 30,000 of their centers are in mexico is definitely true, and crazy.
It is definitely a great way to launder money, if you wanted to.
Mixing up drinks for people with no damn bottle in view is also a great way to drug someone and kidnap them.
This company is creep beyond belief i got pulled into a shady store operating in a former driving school with broken glass on the door and they tried to get me to drink a drink with total refusal to show a bottle.
Then as the "saleswoman" was trying to convince us to drink a random drink with no actual ingredient list presented, or bottle, two guys walked back and forth staring in from outside. One came in and said the drink had changed his life and he used to be a tough guy.
He had ominous looking tats all over his hands i left and told him this was outrageously uncomfortable and unprofessional and he said he was "interested to hear my reasons". I came back in about 10 minutes and said "this is herbalife isnt it" (they had refused to say the company). He acknowledged that it was but they were an "offshoot of them". Which is obvious bs.
He told us the redbulls we were drinking are unhealthy i told him well it does have sucrolose aka chlorinated sugar in it but thats the only bad ingredient meanwhile your companys products have sucrolose and gmo soy as well as three transfats....
The argument went on with him totally outclassed by my knowledge of nutrition and him saying who cared about ingredients and him going on about how who cares because three drinks had chances his life considering he used to be a gangster.
After it became apparent he had nothing he started to make veiled theeats talking about guns and then ended the conversation telling me to vacate the premises before he got back to his old ways.
I did some further research.
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/world/americas/us-agents-aided-mexican-drug-trafficker-to-infiltrate-ring.html?pagewanted=all&_r=2
http://saltydroid.info/herbalifes-mexican-laundromat/
It seems the big cartel guy they caught recently talked about using herbalife accounts to launder many millions of dollars.
Isnt it quite suspicious that the company has had more growth in mexico than anywhere else and has around 50% of its "health centers" in mexico?
The story gets even deeper when you look at herbalife 24. They seem to actually have a partnership with the "banned substance control group" led by don caitlin founder of the ucla olympic analytical lab.
Sports illustrated fairly recently put out a story alleging the bscg knew about lance armstrongs doping. Of course don caitlin denies but lets be real here.
How the hell did armstrong get away with it for so long? Comon now.
Who is providing the exotic substances for these guys? Clearly a guy like don cautlin could run quiet the business selling drugs that are not programmed into any spectrometers.
Judging from the fact that i find lots of reports online from people talking about constant dizzyness and anxiety after taking herbalife, it wouldnt be surprise me if such a substance is in their actual products.
Probably some sort of amphetamine analog research chemical that few know about.
This company is outrageously suspicious and probably very close or outright organized crime.
Im not about to go digging any deeper by any means hopefully karma will hit them soon with the investigations but..... I would avoid, for reasons of conscious particularly.
What exactly do you mean by paid promotion?
The news has been announcements of distributors....
Go bonu!
Do you see problems currently with streaming, that is currently happening around the clock along with online gaming? You can have multiple people on the same connection streaming netflix at the same time, while bittorenting movies and playing online with little to no problems in many cities.
Lol this reads like a comedy script.
Yes, the isps want you to buy the next great thing 4k streaming.....
So they are lyinnnng about speeds! Except that a lot of cable and fiber optic out there now has capacities of 35 to 150 easily.
As a matter of fact if theres a conspiracy its to hold out on us we could be having 1000 mb a second like google offers but theyd rather throttle accounts and wait to upgrade capacity cause theyll make way more money offering you that as the next great thing.
There are far less "physical limits" then there are profits to be made by artificial scarcity.
Well the only reason i can see them authorizing more shares at this point is to pay for a large manufacturing increase.
Well actually quats arent effective against mold spores.
Watered down its not that incredibly toxic though.
They are a pretty great and cheap chemical that suffers from two deficiencies, 1. Various pathogens develop resistance 2. They dont kill mold spores.
The kennelsol is more of a cheaper solution used for general purposes, easily dilutable and leaves a pleasant scent.
The ygiene would be used more for examination tables, medical tools, grooming supplies etc. as its somewhat expensive and not highly dilutable.
Ygienes main selling point is that it is a new level of 100 percent effectiveness against all microorganisms in a very short period of time.
Anything mission critical to actually kill all microorganisms is where it shines.
And for surfaces heavily soiled with fungi etc like decks because its power to cut through mold and kill it is also unheard of.
The main advantage quats like that kennelsol or lysol have is that the concentrate is insanely cheap and can be watered down to enormous amounts.
"BioNeutral will use Keystone Industries as its exclusive manufacturer. KRP will provide free rent at its Germany plant for one year. KRP will give BioNeutral access to its Chief Scientist Larry Steffier and to *its distributors and distribution network* and include BioNeutral products at tradeshows and feature BioNeutral products in KRP's promotional literature.
KRP will be spending at least US$100,000 in the first year on equipment, developing production processes, marketing research, sales development and personnel."
Im not arguing lol im just discussing.
Theres a chance keystone hooked them into some of these other distributors being manufacturers they probably don't do much direct sales.
I would think theres a good chances they have the numbers of various product distribution companies.
Just a guess though.
Keystone is the manufacturer of the product.
Military sales WILL take a long time.
You can however find ygiene listed in a quarterly government catalog.
As for white charger, i have no idea.
Not every sales organization they sign is gonna be doing gangbusters... However they have a good selection now and they certainly had about zero a year ago.
Most of their distributors are very recent, and as we can see from this press release, they just finished with training on on one of them.
In this case, they need to be drilled on the actual chemistry to sell this to lab professionals.
Um, please tell me about all these distributors they supposedly signed years ago?
Not really, your skin is not bacteria or spores.
Just dont sit there with your hands in a bucket of it for hours lol.
Lol there'll be a giant amount of red here!
Hahaa jking tho couldnt resist.
Oh well in that case I'm certainly interested.
Your also inviting yourself to a stop at your door by the feds with that kind of talk.
So if i were you i would chill.
I really wish all who may have lost money here the best of luck though.
Im sorry for your losses.
Cry or something, but continue on my friend having learned what lessons you can.
Terrorists follow the same line of reasoning.
It surely isn't violence if i believe in it being just.
Really that is the reason for all violence.
They are well favored for low prices by some people from what i understand.
Consistent issues with not sending out product for days/more than a week yet charging immediately.
rumor that they were selling weed out of a store. Possibility arises that their cheap prices come from being a front for money laundering.
Its also possible that this whole phot company was a money laundering front.
Millions in revenue from...... What exactly?
They do not have a huge amount of stores from what i can ascertain here.
As for growing - well -the majority of equipment actually comes from china and is retailed by various suppliers.
As for growing weed no it is not complicated.
Its simply a checklist of factors. A bit of attention to detail.
Its actually not that complicated man, it really isn't.
And reviews such as this? "WORST SHIPPING/CUSTOMER SERVICE IN INDUSTRY
I see my issues with Greners is mirrored by many. maybe as a company you need to read these comments and act on them. the major problem here is evident with everyone. "
How bout one of the evergreen garden centers
" by positv_ppl on 06/03/2012
They had great staff that was very helpful but dont anymore... I feel the same as review #1"
How about stealth grow?
http://www.rollitup.org/t/stealth-grow-company-led-results-are-fake.676502/
rocky mountain hydroponics is even more ridiculous. It seems to be literally one store.
So this national chain you speak of was a limited group of stores and a few online businesses purchased in order to have an impressive number of states vaguely represented.
As far as i can see....
I have no idea.
I think most of them are private, well established businesses.
Fitx or tweed. Whatever.
I will let time decide. Whoever gets licensed ill put money into.
At present what i know is that growing the actual weed is where the money is.
Again, this aint gold mining.
If you can be licensed to grow the weed - you will be able to grow it - unless you are totally inept.
Anticipating the worst is the perfect attitude to attract it.
Perhaps the cynical attitude on display here, has something to do with exactly how these guys got so many people on board with their insane company.
They picked the route of selling the 'safe' avenue of not being directly involved in marijuana cultivation.
This should have set off an immediate red flag as to why they were on top of the weed stock pile - when all they are is a company that sells growing equipment...
Something that has never been illegal.
Personally i have thought the whole weed sector to be nothing but a hype train since it started.
Its incredibly difficult to pick the winners at present and many of the winners will probably be private companies.
Fitx is the only one i could possibly see at present, and of course aero could benefit from weed hype as well as continuing trends in local plant growing interest in general.
Thats of course, if fitx is legit and can get a license and i personally am willing to wait and see how that goes.
Growing weed is an obviously fantastic business.
Selling grow equipment is a business thats highly established and competitive already.
What amazes me is all the attention on phot instead of determining who is public that already sells and has been selling great grow equipment with success...
Well its been trading sideways for quite a stretch of time now and had a pretty big run with no news fairly recently.
Since then, two more distributors have been signed.
They also posted their best quarter so far last 10q which was after the run on no news.
It has settled at 8 and stops at 15.
The longer it trades sideways at 8 after its run the lower the 50 day moving average becomes when the 50 day moving average meets the share price, and then the share price goes above it - there is a great chance of a run.
Right now the pressure is upward but the skepticism is high putting a lid on upward pressure as people sell into any gains.
To me those are risky sells though because at any time this stock could explode upward rapidly.
I think that market makers/financiers are also participating in it continuing to trade sideways capping its moves upward after news, with tons of obvious trades like 999,999 shares in repeating blocks.
All stocks move on charts. Its actually far more predictive than news in most cases.
I personally always have thought phot made pretty bad sense as a marijuana business.
Why exactly would they have any particular advantage selling grow equipment as opposed to all the other companies selling grow equipment for many years?
Its always been legal to sell grow equipment.....
So then i guess their model is to supply funding/grow equipment to other grows.
So why exactly would these companies want to participate in these deals where they give up massive equity and revenue and pay for over priced equipment?
It never made sense to me.
Of course, a lot of money has been made before with this type of scheme, but better have some fool in a board of directors of some giant tech company ready to buy your shares for a huge cashout on hype,and keep the company private till then.
Or - if your gonna be public - you better be quite conservative with how you operate your stock and what you feed investors.
This company fundamentally does not make sense to me.
Why are they particularly great suppliers for grow equipment - no one seemed concerned with answering that question.
It was always oh this million dollar deal here - that million dollar deal there etc etc. all future based which is fine but how are they getting 4 mill revenues from future contracts?
That being said i wish you growlife investors luck.
Who knows maybe the sec is just trying to screw with the weed industry.
The reason i never invested in any weed stocks and have only hesitantly looked at fitx is because i dont really see why anything but selling weed or perhaps hemp - would be any different with legal weed.
As for weed pharma companies - um, raw cannabis juice/extract and or rick simpsons oil. No need for anything more complex imo..... More narrow patentable drugs will perhaps be attempted by big pharma...
Selling weed is where the money is.
This isnt gold.
You dont need to get lucky to grow weed.
Its a replicable process that uses mostly commodity materials.
Its been trading sideways for the longest time in its chart history, at its low, having recently run randomly with no pump.
It has also for the first time in its history signed up a pretty decent crew of distributors.
Its last 10q was its best quarter ever showing exponential growth which despite not being impressive relative to competitors is impressive relative to itself.
The longer it stays at these levels with upward pressure clearly present as its tested 15 cents recently - the more the 50 day moving average hits the right price point for the stock to surpass "the magic line".
Lol this stock is so primed to explode through the roof its awesome.
Gonna be great.
The upward pressure being capped right now will make this explode when a real run occurs.
If they announce a 30-40 thousand dollar profit next quarter..... Look out.
I actually think ogeine will do even better more quickly because consumers don't have to go through massive politics to make orders like hospitals do.
If its on store shelves - people will try it, and word will spread.
Consumers are for more mouthy then professionals.
In fact, i actually think deck cleaners are more inclined to keep ygiene a secret because its a truly massive competitive advantage if you run a deck cleaning company.
You have no knowledge of what you speak of.
Bleach is not at all a highly effective way to kill mold spores.
Do some research.
This menzer thing is very mysterious.
This isn't a normal distributor.
Their website is the actual website for ogeine in the uk.
I looked up menzer and the only person i could find that fits the profile is john bruce menzer - former director of walmart international who also happens to operate out of the uk.
He was with a private holding company called broadstreet great wilson europe and walmart uk was a subsidiary of it.
So... Just a theory, but menzer also happens to be a holding company in the uk.... Selling bonus retail product ogeine at retail stores.....
When this thing really runs it will be epic. They are on the cutting edge - its just going to be a while before people are ready to realize that netflix is mostly shallow time wasting content and gaiam stream life improving consciousness developing content.
Meanwhile a quick look at this chart and the history of the company here one will find out its been trading sideways for quiet a while, had a huge run for very little reason at all and has since posted its best revenue ever and two more distributors.
The upward pressure is building and the best part of all is that its NOT running through the roof meaning the pressure release of say, a really good quarter - will lead to a spectacular run.
Clearly a guy who makes a statement like whales dont like to get excrement on them, is the man to trust.
Theres a statement crafted within the fires of genius.