You don't. That's literally the point.

You continue to pick and choose what I write without taking into context the FULL scope of what I say...and try to formulate your own troll idea behind it on those bits/pieces.

I said ONCE or TWICE PER YEAR it offers a short-term swing...not all the time.

In fact, I specifically said that is WHY it's a short-term swing as post 'hype'...the volume disappears for months on end. It's also why I sold 95% of what I had.

Frankly, this might be the lowest volume on this ticker that I can recall. So, the one swing opportunity we got December into January may be it for the entire year (barring unforeseen, legitimate news).

You are beyond help...

And worse, your attempt at comedy and/or trolling is a few levels below awful.

2.53/7.97 spread 🤣😂🤣😂🤣💀

Exhibit A to my point...

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I hate to tell you Gwinner, but you have all the tell-tale signs of the exact individual I described in my post. It's been apparent for months now...

I hope you do beat the odds and get a winner with a buy/hold strategy, but don't say you weren't warned.

Nah, see, again...you still don't fukn understand...

He's HOLDING/INVESTING and praying for some black swan event to make him a shit-ton of money (we call that hopium). THAT is where people get into trouble with this pos ticker (and every pos ticker for that matter). They start believing a 'story' rather than the reality of the situation.

Then, the SWING EVENT is over...and folks didn't sell...which creates the emotion of "I don't wanna miss out if/when it turns back up"...so they hold way longer than they would've otherwise until eventually..."oh shit" moment and they sell out at a big loss. This is even easier when the volume disappears (like it has/does on ZIVO)...and they can make the damn intraday spread 5.50/8.00 for most of the day (like it was today). It doesn't take much to create said emotions when any 100 share block going off on the bid triggers the appearance of a huge down day since the spread is freaking $2.50!

OHHH...and your comment this morning. Ya, it applies to every CEO/CFO and board member they've had since the beginning of time (ie- what are they being paid this much money for with no results).

I'll say it for the 10 millionth time, KNOW WHAT YOU OWN! The 'story' is great...but it's just that...a story...unless/until they prove otherwise.

Algaeboy- therein lies the exact reason that Mike and I have been around for so damn long. IT WORKS! IT REALLY WORKS!

BUT, WHY this management team (multiple now)...cannot for the life of them put this together to monetize it for the problem(s) you state is mind-boggling.

I mean, it's literally right there for the taking...!!!

Tony- You have ZERO idea what the definition of 'swing' trading is (even going as far as ignoring what I defined as such in my prior post).

The simple fact that you went back to 2014 and essentially replied "look, you're both in too deep"...proves that fact.

Gimme a break. You think Amigo and I are still HOLDING stock from 2014??? You are high as a kite!! Well, I guess we are just passing 4/20, soooo... 🤣🤣🤣

We've even said it's not INVESTABLE (which is what you're trying to imply). I have been in and out of ZIVO/HEPI/WGHL more times since 2014 (actually 2004) than posts you have on this board.

Literally all this post you bring up proves is that ZIVO has the same problems TODAY that they had TEN YEARS ago...hence illustrating the entire point I was making in my prior post about "knowing what's coming" (ie- nothingness after the chicken test hype). This company is what it is until it proves otherwise. Those of us who know/understand that...can continue to benefit off its trading patterns.

And since you're always so convinced of yourself, here's a sneak peak at just THIS year's SWING trade:



I'm so buried it hurts!!! 😂🤣😂

LOL...not if you know WHAT you're doing and WHEN the right time is to engage.

You'll notice, both Mike and I have been entirely hands off for MONTHS now because we KNEW from experience what was coming post the "chicken test hype". What we both currently hold is literally from sub $1.00/share, so the risk is minimal.

ZIVO typically presents 1-2 opportunities per year to swing trade for anywhere from a few days to a few weeks. And I've made a chunk doing this for the last decade plus with this pos. lol

Go back in the board and you'll even see I admittedly sold too much too fast as I'm accustomed to it not lasting as long as it did this time around.

No, they would dilute and raise cash if that were the case. A forward split by itself does not put any $$ into company's pocket...

Simply means, the VAST majority of the company shares are in very tight hands. Meaning IF...IF...IF...they ever could actually do SOMETHING/ANYTHING of value...you are dealing with less than 1.4 million shares for the rest of the world to share barring more dilution. Which means, there is virtually no limit to the 'wildness' one could see with substantial volume in the ticker. The move from sub $1.00 to $13 in a straight line is tip of iceberg in that regard imo.

But as you've been around this company as long as Mike and I...you know those 3 "IF's" above are bigger than they are written... 🤣 Hence the reason, I literally have nothing more than a tiny flyer on from $1.00 for giggles and not the 'full boat' I have held in the past here.

Cheers!

New Sch13D just hit for Strome. Between his 4 entities and him personally, he owns 486,174 shares (2nd largest holder).

So, top 3 holders own 1,330,117 of roughly 2.75 million o/s.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1101026/000117494724000523/ea0203503-13da7strome_zivo.htm

Haven't been paying really close attention here lately...and have been out of town a lot...but noticed that HEP Investments/Yaldoo filed an updated Sch 13D a few weeks ago. First one in a while, from what I can see.

Shows 488,785 shares owned which is 17.8% of outstanding (putting o/s roughly 2.75ish million).

That means between Yaldoo 488,785 and Mags 355,158 alone they hold 844k of that 2.75 million. Add in Strome (his last Sch 13 was pre-latest reverse)...but that means insiders hold close to 50% of the o/s in total if you add them all up (not taking the time to do this individually, just a rough guesstimate).

So, most of o/s is still in tight hands now with Armistice out of picture until their warrants come in the $$ at 16.80. By no means does that give me a signal to try and time a bottom here and re-add to position, but the original thesis is still in play if daily chart can base and curl up (also barring no further dilution, which is the part that is least likely, as they need $$ again).

Daily chart is indeed breaking down. This is why I sold 90% of the shares (many of which were sold much too early, admittedly) I had purchased at the lows during the run-up when everyone wanted it...as this is typical ZIVO nonsense. I'm only holding the super small piece I have because cost basis is sub $1.00. It's nothing more than a flyer that's well in the money at this point.

Barring unexpected news/ZIVO actually doing something (**giggles**), likely heading back into a slow death spiral again. Don't think it will be quite as egregious as the last one given there shouldn't be one group with a ton of stock to unload like last time, but who knows. If it starts closing sub 6.80/7.00 levels could get tough, as everyone who bought the last few months would be underwater OR they want to sell before their profit completely dissipates if they bought on the run-up and didn't sell.

Some individuals acting 'surprised' at this action (or lack thereof from ZIVO) just kill me. Welcome to bio-investing...where 98%+ of the companies are in the same damn position. lol

Polo...

Nice analogy of what it's like trading ZIVO. 🤣

Seems like someone is trying to paint the chart and keep it from establishing over the 200ma. Almost every day this week a random sell just before close to print a 'bearish' looking candle and put price below 200ma.

Overall, nice consolidation in this area...but typical ZIVO snoozefest post 'expected' news. Back to the abyss of guessing we've gone...

WAIT...WUT!!!???!!!!

Armistice exited their entire position??? **SHOCKING!**

GOODNESS!!!! I wish SOMEONE would've come to that conclusion sooner....

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173109286

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173185469

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Interesting comments and back-and-forth in the two weeks I was away... 🤣😂🤣😂

Just as I can't fault anything you are saying...I'm just not going to walk away from 1000% gains (already) with nothing off the table.

There are still many questions on how this unfolds, so I believe it's the proper move for me.

With that said, I'll be gone for 2 weeks starting Friday...so if I come back on Feb 12th to ZIVO printing in the $50's...I won't be sad. lol

I am not surprised by the action today at all...

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173645735

I mean, genuinely...this was the EXPECTED outcome (ie- we've known the stuff works for 2 decades). BUT, ZIVO has blown all 'benefit of the doubt' opportunities...they are in pure "show me" stage. And this news is exactly as I feared, "the next step is to seek". Great, we've heard that before...how long will that take? Will it take?

YES, I get these results AGAIN prove it all...but ZIVO has not shown to be capable of delivering on anything positive in their entire history.

So, unlike you, I have trimmed some all the way up (including the 9's pop y'day). Still have small, but I'm not believing the "moon shot" until they actually deliver. The daily chart from a technical standpoint is so overbought it's absurd...so, a cooldown is inevitable sans a contract (especially for anyone chasing that expected moon shot on this news that doesn't come). All jmo.

New 8-k just out. ANOTHER 175k shares sold this month...

It now shows 2,748,162 million shares outstanding. So, again, they need to chill with this or the micro float idea goes out the window...

Hard to say, as volume is still just so low. Daily chart certainly is on fire...but, the longer/higher this goes with no news...it's setting itself up for a "sell the news" kind of setup imo.

The ONLY way that is nullified is if they have an ACTUAL contract in hand with specific amounts...not "the next step is to seek".

It is very interesting to say the least. I just cannot/will not chase the move without news actually being out there. I will stick to my tiny $0.00 cost base position and hope for a rocket ship. 😛

PLUS...don't forget this:

https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173180117

I am absolutely convinced that Armistice was relentlessly selling all they could during this time too...which was a big reason for the "stock cratering".

Nothing good ever comes from AHs PR on a Friday before a holiday weekend for a shitco ticker/company (face it, that's what ZIVO is until proven otherwise).

So, agree wholeheartedly with you...if we see a PR today, it will NOT be good news. Especially since on the OTC and no trading can be done in extended hours.

Also agree wholeheartedly, if they buck-the-trend and issue a good news PR today...well, the incompetence of this management team will have reach new heights...lol

Another 3 day weekend...

**holds breathe for no AHs news**

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ASCM absolutely played a significant role in much of the action y'day. In fact, they were the ones with the 10k bids at 4.80 I mentioned BEFORE the swipe to 11s...

Again, barring actual news...there is no choice but for this to take a breather sideways to slightly lower based off technicals alone. Anyone with eyes on this trading based on the hot technical daily chart setup would see this.

So, for now, I'm good with my scale out yesterday...and (selfishly) wait to see if we get a panic flush out from anyone chasing yesterday on speculation fomo.

PS - ^ of course, I would also take the alt-view of getting good news and chasing the ramp...but I'm playing with almost 20 years experience with these yahoo's to make that my primary play. lol

Today is the first real example of #2 in this replied to post...

from $3 to $11 to $4 today.

Like I said, buckle up ya'll...you in da Wild Wild West now!

Given the move, where it's come from and the fact the daily chart is so over-extended (about to print a NASTY daily candle)...and the fact this all has occurred on speculation/no news IS the very reason I at least covered my cost-basis on current shares.

Frankly, I don't want to get 'zivo-d' (<-- my patent is pending, lol) again with either no news, bad news or another screw up. SO, I'd rather have a clear head to be able to REACT to positive good news (even if at higher prices) than be pissed off I didn't do what I did today and end up 'zivo-d'.

One thing today has show beyond a shadow of a doubt...this thing is THIN AS EVER...and good news WITH REAL volume...that $71 offer might hit. lol Seriously, this is only 35k shares of volume. Can you imagine a million shares or more in volume? Dayam!

(today proved this...and still not major volume: https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=173552314 )

It's hard af to sell...you gotta be sitting out there or hit the bid the moment it appears. I have sold enough today to pay for my cost basis and remaining position is free. Position size is significantly less than I would've liked (and normally carried), but I was too 'chicken' (no pun intended) on going big on ZIVO again when I had the chance sub $1 (call it PTSD from prior years on the OTC sub $1).

The only notable action I saw today was someone desperately trying to pick up 10k shares around 4.80. They put out the order in full twice and only got 100 shares. Then it went hidden and the entire thing filled (before the spike to 11).

At this point, the daily chart is wayyyy over-extended/over-bought...so, it will likely pause/consolidate for a while imo, barring news. Also in this regard, they spiked it up to exactly over the 200 day moving average...so the final candle print likely looks like a blowoff to that significant level.

Who's the lucky bastard that got the $11.48 fills on their sells?? lol

And there's another 8-K to cover Alison's purchases on 1/2. 288k more shares...so, they're def over 2.5 million o/s now (if not closer to 3 milly depending on which math is right).

Ideally, that's it...as I'd like to keep the micro-float aspect in play here. Otherwise, it loses its luster for me personally.

There's the 8-k. 266k shares total, 157k shares to Mags implying the other 100+k went to a non-majority shareholder (since no Form 4). That's 466k shares issued in the last two 8-k's...meaning o/s is now roughly 2.5 million

I said this thing was thinner than I ever saw it BEFORE the last r/s...now, this is downright silly. A few shares can move this multiple percentages.

Any REAL volume at all...this starts skipping dollars at a time...

Another Mags Form 4 filed AH's....

Claims 157k shares on 12/29/23 for $1.30 added to make total over 330k shares now.

HUH...how??? There wasn't even that much volume. Who he buying from...??

PS- it's definitely an add, because my prior post about his last Form 4 questioned how he could only have 179k shares post r/s.

With the MILLIONS Mags has into this personally already...I figure the "sure, what the hell, it's only another $45k" thought went through his mind. lol

No news forthcoming soon...Mags Form 4 from y'day filed.

45k at $1.00. Seems he must've been part of that "unregistered sale", no? There absolutely was not enough open market volume for that kind of buy at that exact level...

PS - how in the world does Mags only have 179k post split shares? lol.

Bump.

And we're off...

.90 to 1.72 to 1.30.

We're so back to OTC land. LOL

Interesting 8K out after-hours. They sold 200k shares at $1.00 to an 'accredited investor' last week.

I presume this is dilutive, but obviously was almost double what the share price was at the time.

Hmmmm...

Bro, it's bouncing cuz I barely got any position on and didn't want to chase it. I'm at a FRACTION of a position I'd normally be at to go for it here.

Frankly, given they are literally running on a 'pay day loan' as Tony so aptly put it...they kinda need to prove it to me this time anyway.

Someone stepped in with a size offer mid .60s and then lowered it to .6075 into close. I hit it twice to see how viable it was...

First time, filled me at the .6075. Second time, filled me lower at .58625.

These are my first 'toe-dips'...and tiny tiny size so far. I am in ZERO rush to fill a position...and almost more likely to be happy filling it at higher prices once I know/see a bottom has been put in (unless someone markets out like back in the day and I can catch size on that in the .20s. lol).

Not me. Still trying to mentally prepare if I wanna do this movie again with ZIVO...

lololol