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by Mick: Review/Networking Ideas-09-13-2010-Tri-Valley Corp (TIV)
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=54322518
by Primary Watcher: TIV Year-End 2010 Equity to Exceed Required Minimum for Continued Listing on NYSE Amex
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=58638615
bye jp, sorry it didn't work out for you and your family you brought in.
you spent a lot of time here and lost a lot of money.
All anyone ever needed to know from an "investment" (not trading) standpoint is: YAGI involvement = common shareholder ruin.
regards,
jonesie
Unbelievable.
Jennifer's comment, in Howard's words of course, of
"She was surprised to find out the huge number of shares traded"
"find out"
Not that she was surprised "too", but more like she had just found out ... from Howard.
Anyway, just my take on it, everyone can speculate as they wish on a third party conversation and the nuances of its meaning.
jonesie
Specialist + large shareholders collude and leverage any PR no matter how ridiculous, immaterial or similar to past PRs, churn the stock swapping shares back and forth, move the pps up and down and snag the unwary along the way.
Look at the snags they made selling to the $0.50 to $1.00 buyers, confident in selling because they knew they would take it back down to sub-$0.50 for re-loading.
Wash, rinse, repeat.
About as good a reason as any for all the recent volume lol
jmho
jonesie
Awesome Woody, thanks for posting.
I tried downloading the zip file, got half way through and received an error, will try again.
Wasn't TIV supposed to be at 10,000 boepd by the end of the decade ...
... or some other unfulfilled promise?
http://opi.consrv.ca.gov/opi/opi.dll/Search?UsrP_ID=100150041&FormStack=Main%2COperator&Opr__ID=100000315&Action=Get+Sums+&PriorState=Encoded%3DTrue
YTD (thru October 2010) oil down from ytd (thru October) 2008, water way up, now there's some progress.
Can you please provide your source/back up/evidence of your claim that NEOM pps will be +$2 by end of 2011?
Is that with or without another reverse split?
jonesie
5 STAR POST ...
... and 5 STAR WEBSITE.
I will continue to read your posts with great enthusiasm!
jonesie
NEOM shareholder vs Yorkville
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=52924092
NEOM has been a poster child for YAGI victims over the last few years and a NEOM shareholder decided to push back.
I think there are additional updates in this case, I will post them as available.
jonesie
Are there additional updates in this case ...
... involving NEOM's financier?
TIA
jonesie
....and Mr. Bush thanks us for our contributions to his bank account while presiding over useless acquisitions which were ultimately sold for losses.
Another one bites the dust.
And what prizes do we have for our departing guest?
jonesie
NYSE acquired AMEX
http://www.nyse.com/attachment/amex_landing.htm
All TIV was saying there is they need the NYSE/AMEX to authorize/register these extra shares they are printing.
So the acquirers can dump them.
Ouch. There are some who are nearly 50% down almost instantly.
And some shorts who are up really big almost instantly.
As The TIV Turns.
jonesie
Lol TIV always "leaky"
Seriously deserves an SEC peek
Interesting after hours volume and prices
After Hours Last: $ .87
After Hours High: $ .93
After Hours Low: $ .54
After Hours Volume: 256,005
The after hours share price didn't really pop until just before 6pm and the heavier AH trading continued for about an hour.
Total volume yesterday over 600M shares?
That's pretty amazing with the only news being a PR about finally selling an ill-advised mineral deal for a half mil loss.
'course, that deal does put some much needed cash in TIV's coffers so they can live to work and/or PR another day.
It shows they continue to divest themselves of the money-losing garbage L.B. bought, out of necessity, but at least they're doing it.
So, did somebody get one of your head nods around 3 pm California time?
Did some of the October sellers during the last pop decide to buy back in before the new year rush of tax loss sellers who booked their losses a month ago and want back in? My guess would be that tax loss sellers will get a chance to buy back in at lower prices than this AH pop, but who knows.
GLTA
jonesie
Happy Holidays everyone!
I hope everyone has had a great 2010 and here's to a great 2011!
Nice touch TIV, handing a new crop of TIV sharebuyers lumps of coal for Christmas has we see the latest rumors and innuendo causing them to be nearly 50% down from the "high" of the recent inevitable bounce off these long expected new lows.
Will TIV print more new all time lows before it has another orchestrated bounce? Amazing how many shares could trade in this stock with so little relative movement. Almost like another one of those deals arranged to let Russell funds in or out by hooking them up with the short interest getting in or out. 'course, everytime the shorts sold shares to the Russell funds, who ended up getting killed? Uh, the funds on the long side of course, every time, and by huge percentages.
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Any idea how much they are getting for the ebay license? --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
That would be nice "factual" information to have ... surely it's in the related filings so shareholders can see?
If not, it's about time to strew some dots about, maybe talk about some other companys' license fees.
glta
jonesie
One big thing to understand about this company:
When did price start going up?
And when did the news come out?
Wink wink, nudge nudge.
jmho
jonesie
5 STAR POST POPTECH
If an 'insider' sets up a regular stock purchase plan ...
... he will have no issues no matter when news comes out. It's a purchase plan that is filed with the SEC and it protects the 'insider'. I think it's a 401-b as I used to check to see whether scamster insiders at scamster companies had filed them or not, but I'm not sure of the filing name now.
Otherwise, if an insider acquires shares and significant news comes out shortly thereafter, there can be ramifications and consequences pending the outcome of an SEC investigation. Little companies like TIV benefit from the SEC being busy with bigger fish, but it does happen from time to time.
TIV insiders know from history that if they have been able to get away with the ridiculous 'Safe Harbor'-language-protected PRs that have sucked in believing sharebuyers for years, they most likely have nothing to worry about.
Or do they?
Most pennystockscamsters and other companies who feed at the public share-selling trough without actually making money hire people to try to make sure shady insider dealings meet the letter of the law. Whether or not they are moral or ethical dealings is always another question.
Anyway, the 'awarding' of shares might even fall into a different category, where the award beneficiary can always claim that HE didn't buy shares, they were given to him and he couldn't help the timing.
What I'd like to see is a full blown investigation into TIV's PRs past and present, all of the hype (hype is legal), early dissemination of information to selected groups (illegal), and OPUS members' personal purchases and sales of shares (and shorting, "if any") outside of their OPUS-related investments (and their family members' purchases and sales). Throw in information about the White Knight's manipulation of message boards while being in possession of material inside information. But it isn't going to happen unless some burned investor foots the bill for the lawyer(s) to put it all together, file a suit and take it to court where subpoenas for additional disclosures would be issued.
Someone has already sued, or threatened to sue, TIV, only time will tell if more will. Me, I made a bundle on TIV trading it from 2.50 to 16.00 and multiple swings from 6's to 10's etc, until it broke that long time support around 5-6 so I don't have a dog in the burned-investor-hunt. After that it was just a long predictable road down with the occasional trade-able pop, paved with ridiculous PR after PR and the hyped investments by various investor-groups, all of whom took it on the chin if one is to believe they weren't also shorting against the box from time to time, and ultimately the current toxic financing we have seen.
Not to say one can't make money playing pops but that's not the same as investing in a viable company with a history of truthful statements rather than legalese-protected-hyperbole.
JMHO and good luck to all who pick the lows the sell the highs until TIV somehow puts something real on the bottom line, if they ever do.
jonesie
Company "awarding" shares?
For what?
Thanks for the post lefty, good to see you.
Yeah, nothing much has changed with good ol' TIV, PPS keeps going down, share count keeps going up, and the PRs still apparently have tongue in cheek humor in them.
There must be some great news in the offing, based on the efforts of the newly rewarded employees. How long would the company have to wait to actually PR that news to keep the awards from looking suspicious?
Comparisons
THM has less than twice as many shares outstanding as TIV does, yet has an enterprise value 30X TIV's.
Check out TIV's Management Effectiveness with respect to Return on Equity.
LOL, they have certainly squandered a huge amount of money.
Management Effectiveness, is that an oxymoron relative to TIV, or just two words that can't really be used with respect to TIV?
While THM has somewhere south of twice as many shares outstanding as does TIV, for some reason shorts only hold an interest in less than one third as many THM shares compared to TIV's shorts.
Ugly.
THM
Market Cap (intraday)5: 661.55M
Enterprise Value (Dec 1, 2010)3: 617.47M
Shares Outstanding5: 67.64M
Shares Short (as of Nov 15, 2010)3: 379.47K
Short Ratio (as of Nov 15, 2010)3: 1.10
Management Effectiveness
Return on Assets (ttm): -16.11%
Return on Equity (ttm): -28.12%
TIV
Market Cap (intraday)5: 19.32M
Enterprise Value (Dec 1, 2010)3: 20.31M
Shares Outstanding5: 38.07M
Shares Short (as of Nov 15, 2010)3: 1.34M
Short Ratio (as of Nov 15, 2010)3: 16.10
Management Effectiveness
Return on Assets (ttm): -37.82%
Return on Equity (ttm): -392.94%
jonesie
0.0009 pre-split share price
Looks like just any other YAGI-connected company, so yeah, it's as real as the 200+ other companies who fared just as well as NEOM has.
Moreover, there are YAGI victim/companies out there that did reverse splits, got their PPS's up into dimes and quarters range, YAGI dumped more and the PPS ended up right back where it started before the R/S ... AFTER the reverse splits.
jonesie
Wow, .48, that's a new 52-week low ...
... new decade low? Forever low?
It hit .69 sometime in early 2001.
About the best thing I can think of to say about TIV printing these new lows is, even at these prices the enormously larger number of shares outstanding puts a value on TIV greater than when it printed .69 in early 2001.
Whether that value is deserved or not remains to be seen.
jonesie
About the most positive thing I can think of ...
Sellers are going ahead and locking in their losses to offset gains in other stocks for tax purposes.
Doing it now while downward pressure will most likely prevail through December allows sellers to buy back in after the first of the year without it being a wash sale, 30 days between sell and buy, right?
Okay, that's the best I can come up with lol
Hitting multi-year lows ... again?
TIV hasn't been worth much as an investment/trade since it broke support at $6.
jonesie
I recall Chaz babblings at the one shareholder meeting I attended...what a doofus he was and still probably is
Chas (Fritz, former CEO of NEOM) walked away with around $4 mil and has been chuckling about it ever since. Probably not a doofus, but rather a very slick operator whose knowledge of toxic financing and the Ft. Liars Two Step was put to good (for him) use.
jonesie
Titan, long time involvement with YAGI
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=25858858
"If Ian failed this miserably, then we are well rid of him."
There's nothing to fail at other than failing to sucker some new sharebuyers from time to time or failing to keep up to date the SEC filings that give this charade a vague odor of legitimacy.
"Who knows anymore with this drama/horror story called 'The Continuing Misfortunes of NEOM'."
The Continuing Misfortunes of NEOM Shareholders.
"They must smell money somewhere ..."
And that money is in the pockets of otcbb penny stock hopefuls; these dogs are the K-9 Corp of Money Sniffing.
"... and big money at that because their MO doesn't usually follow this kind of scenario as we all are aware."
I'm not aware, are we all well aware? I saw and illustrated scores of similar scenarios, hundreds ... YA putting as much money into keeping an otcbb scam going as necessary to keep otcbb "playas" interested in willingly handing over their money while totally securing every share and future share possible so YA would get 99.99% of any possible score in the future.
"Will YA keep the faith?"
YA worships at the altar of greed and they will indeed keep the faith with that, to the demise of the infidel common shareholders.
"Will Laura save the day after her baby is born?"
Has any other pretend/placeholder/puppet CEO?
"Will NEOM generate revenues? Will someone buy NEOM? Will NEOM merge with someone?"
Whether yes, no or maybe, the likelihood of a common shareholder realizing any benefit from anything other than stocktrading is inversely proportional to the nearly infinite stranglehold YA has on NEOM.
"Will the IP fall? Will NEOM run out of money to operate?"
Yes, whenever it suits YA for it to be so ..... or seem so.
IMHO
jonesie
Recent TIV baghol... er, sharebuyers ....
... are down over 40% from when the specialist & friends tried to make it look like TIV would break a buck.
Amazing how TIV can still suck in people to take such a hit.
How many stocks can you lose 40% and more in, time after time? TIV is one of a small group.
Some companies should not be public and have access to public funding like this. Instead of being allowed to put out misleading PRs for years while dumping shares into the market and diluting the common shareholder, they should simply have to get loans ... if they could. Instead paid shills of one sort or another hype the stock and pick the pockets of the unsuspecting.
JMHO
jonesie
Thanks for the commentary from the CC.
It will be interesting to see what the stock price does today, most likely not much as everyone pretty much expects this same ol' same ol' information from TIV.
Good luck to all.
jonesie
"initiated efforts to determine strategies to maximize the value"
So many words, so little said.
"high grade, high brightness calcium carbonate"
Oh goodie, drag that out one more time.
Same ol' same ol' with different signatures.
IMHO
jonesie
"During the shareholders' meeting on June 18, Maston N. Cunningham, the Company's President and Chief Executive Officer, made a PowerPoint presentation summarizing the Company's current business affairs."
TIV down 33% since your arrival post here and Maston's PowerPoint presentation.
So far the New TIV has sunk like Rocks in a bagholder's bag.
jonesie
TIV down over 20% since addition to Russell
I guess one of these days everyone will learn that TIV getting on the Russell again is only good for a very few and very connected investing entities ... or the TIV-savvy trader who has been watching them objectively for years.
Russell-addition day was just one more little plateau that held briefly before TIV continued down to it's lowest PPS in years, what was that, fifty one cents a share?
Looks like these guys are the only Russell related entity that got stuck buying a significant number of shares? I could be wrong, perhaps others did who have not reported.
ISHARES Russell Micro Cap (TM) Index Fund
Over 80,000 shares and I do believe they would be down now.
Oh yeah, way down, TIV was around a buck then.
That's the kind of fund that HAS to buy companies on the relevant Russell index. How many of those companies have been burned, and burned badly, over the last few years? Dare we say ... all of them?
The shorts probably benefit the most from TIV's Russell flip flops, with an opportunity to short or cover a good number of shares at nearly fixed/prearranged prices. They sure have taken advantage of it in the past, and I imagine they continue to.
JMHO
jonesie
This is starting to sound ...
... more and more like the penny stock death spiral financings.
http://www.secinfo.com/$/SEC/Registrant.asp?CIK=22551
Hey SA12, is this latest money-raising round similar to the SEDA's used so often by penny stocks? I have seen several do that in the past as one of the many, and usually increasingly expensive, ways they raise money at the expense of the common shareholder.
Hard to believe with TIV's history that anyone would allow themselves to be a 27%-down bagholder again, but that's exactly what buyers at the top of the recent pop are today, 27% down. Par for the course for TIV, gotta know when to fold 'em and let somebody else hold 'em.
jonesie
acting CEO ...
acting marketing director ...
somehow it all fits, there has certainly been a lot of 'acting' at Neomedia for lo these many years.
'acting' like a viable company
'acting' like they should be a public company
'acting' like they were actually doing anything worthwhile
'acting' like the gave a flip about sharebuyers
How many CEOs in how many years now?
And how much did they get paid with money taken out of sharebuyers' pockets?
Same 'ol same 'ol
GLTA
jonesie
poptech, good points.
Your logical posts and knowledge of the industry, and posts of some old friends like personalizit and banks, are the only reason I ever look at this board any more.
Best regards,
jonesie
Oh well, maybe tomorrow!!