Mike, says a lot for the faith that their shareholders have in the company, doesn't it? That's a commodity that's apparently in short supply around here these days and we all know what's needed, right?

Scruffy

Amen, Gump!

Gump, IF the O/S is now accounted for and bone fide shareholders identified, why would the count be extended? Are we saying that the size of the NSS will affect the size of the settlement? What am I missing here?

Cheers,

Scruffy

Famulus, that's classic... Go ask your boss to explain it to you if you really don't understand this. I've got no time to waste with you if you have nothing to contribute.

Interesting theory, Gump! This would be followed up with a reverse merger into another trading entity, no doubt?

Wonder if this will coincide with a simultaneous release of the restrictions on our dividends and a short squeeze on them as well? Poor Shorty, LOL!

Oh... I forgot... there's no such thing as NSS. GLTA

Scruffy

Investorman, another "hands up" on another board where there are more CMKX investors would certainly be proof enough for me, as far as #1 is concerned.

As for #2, can you think of any legitimate reason why the brokers would hold onto shares that they are mandated to deliver? That may be happening, I'll agree, but why that might be happening raises some very serious questions, to my mind at least. Clearly, they want to derail the cert pull - Why???

Thanks Gump, you may well be right there. What I was questioning might work if the end result here was a buyout, but with us retaining our CMKX certs, a more creative solution is probably in order. I agree with you - It sure is getting interesting! GLTY

Scruffy

Famulus, if you choose to believe that, then that is your perogative. My reading of the update indicates quite the opposite. Anyway, I am not here to prove anything to anybody - only to listen to others to see if I come away with a different perspective. So far, you haven't convinced me of anything, other than that I might well be right.

Buzz, so you are saying that these sells would not be recorded on the TA list that Frizzell is in possession of?

Famulus, you should maybe get out a bit more and look around to see what's what's happening elsewhere. Lots of folks complaining about not getting their certs from ETrade on the other boards, and judging by their mood, I'm inclined to believe them.

Famulus, the DTCC document shows ETrade having a whopping 38,594 shares outstanding, while there are many shareholders waiting for delivery of shares totalling a great deal more than that from them. Would that not be an FTD?

Gump, got a question for you. We are looking at numbers here and what we don't see yet is an accounting of any NSS shares that may have already been settled with the company. If there has been an NSS is it realistic to believe that there have been no settlements to date?

We have seen no outward signs yet of Shorty trying to obtain shares of CMKX or to cover our dividends, so could we assume that a cash settlement might be taking place in the background? Not clear on all the mechanics of this... do you have any thoughts? TIA and GLTY

Scruffy

Tavy, the T/A list rules! Panther is just pulling your chain...

Gump, you will really enjoy this thread! http://cmkxunitedforum.proboards70.com/index.cgi?board=general&action=display&thread=1142565...

GLTY

Scruffy

Nuffy, another cuz? LOL!

Why not simply call him and note the response...

Relax Jimmy, TSX is only funnin' ya! Doeesn't pay to take things too seriously on this board, LOL!

Hasher, you might want to check out www.upakstorage.com (in Victoria).

Exactly Investorman - Once the cert pull is complete and this distribution is ready, the brokers won't have to do a thing apart from answering to NSS holders who would not be receiving dividends, LOL! No NSS? No problem...

Jim, it would probably be a settlement rather than a squeeze, as CMKX is not trading at the moment. The divvies and any short that might be associated with them, however, might be an entirely different matter.

Are we assuming that the T/A does not have our addresses simply because they don't appear on the NOBO list? It doesn't make sense to me that they would not have the addresses but it does make sense that they would not publish them.

Gump, considering what you have written, why do you not believe the T/A was not provided with your address when the certs were ordered? Have I missed something? Aren't the certs just going back through the broker as a final confirmation to the broker that they have indeed been issued? Seems like a logical (but slower) process to me.

LOL! eom

Interesting article: http://news.com.com/Create+an+e-annoyance,+go+to+jail/2010-1028_3-6022491.html?part=rss&tag=6022 Nobody around here like that though, right?

Call it what you want, Janice, however the fact remains that these were 111B UNREPORTED sales. That's 111B out of a 703B A/S that were "missed" by only a single MM. Don't you think that is stretching credibility more than just a little?

Jimmy, to be fair, perhaps we should allow that some of those 30,000 certificates may have been surrendered. If you think about it though, the count is of little importance really as all current cert holders are all listed on the current NOBO list. Of Prime importance (IMHO) are the cert requests that have gone in and how they are dealt with, along with finalizing a NOBO list containing the names of individuals owning 703B CMKX shares. That will verify whether or not there is a short, which is probably why certain individuals here wish to downplay the importance of the pull.

The other question that hasn't been answered here though, is why the SEC and DTCC are forcing the company to resort to a cert pull to prove/disprove the NSS question to begin with, by witholding critical shareholder information? Is there any legitimate excuse, particularly now that the company has been revoked and is no longer trading? If there is no NSS and nothing to hide, disclosure would simply allow the company to identify and settle with ALL shareholders, would it not? Withholding this information only makes sense if there is something really rotten to hide, IMO.

GLTY

Scruffy

Investorman, try this link for the earlier list: http://ratboyz.com/gallery/albums/cmkx/acct.pdf

Sorry Janice, the December 30th update says only "will shortly have". Please let us know if you have further information on this?

Thanks!

SWcruffy

Nuffy, got mine back in April. The restricted notation will take $200 or so to clear up but if having CIM certs helps establish the NSS or secure the investment, this certainly seems like the way to go. What would happen if we ALL pulled our CIM certs? LOL!

GLTY

Scruffy

Ahhh... NSS? Sorry, I'll wash my mouth out with soap... No such thing, right? Wouldn't be ANY fun without ya! LOL! Race ya to the Depends... LOL!

Where else can we find entertainment like this? Love it!

GLTAL

Scruffy

Panther there is NOTHING that you state here as GIVEN, except in YOUR own mind, perhaps. The burden of proof is not us or even you... it will happen here shorty, no matter what any of us wish to see happen.

This is perhaps not a time of "FRIENDS", so much as a time if rationality and focus. That's why you are here, right?

Scruffy

Panther... Got CMKX?

Thanks Janice, after reading posts by these folks, I feel particularly honoured to be included in their grouping, especially by as esteemed a person as yourself!

Merry Christmas All!

Scruffy

Janice, please help us here! How can you possibly explain or justify failing to report transactions (sells) totalling [B}110 BILLION [/B] shares? How does the net effect differ from that of being 110B NSS?

TIA

Scruffy

Investorman, for one of us, apparently...? "The firm would like to remedy this failure to report..." Can you please provide us with the sequel?

Scruffy

Pantherj, rightly or wrongly, most here who have invested in CMKX DO feel they have a grasp on the numbers and on the issues and have bet $$$ on it, knowing the risks. We will very soon see who's right, and who is rewarded, won't we?

GLTA,

Scruffy

PS Got CMKX?

Investorman, Back in Feb/March 05, Jeffries publically admitted (http://www.cmkxownersgroup.com/JefferiesLetter.pdf) to illegally selling (what was it.. 111 BILLION?)counterfeit CMKX shares, due to an "ACCOUNTING ERROR"? Please note that Jeff was only one of several MM's "making a market" with CMKX shares at the time, who may 'possibly' have had similar "problems"! Is a measley 100B out of a 700B O/S NOT SIGNIFICANT???

Some may ask "Why have we seen any correction to this "error" yet?"... Why not indeed?, inquiring minds certainly wish to know!

Are we not all ready for the TRUTH here? YOU BET! Hope you own some CMKX!

Scruffy

jewels, it looks like you got to Janice with that remark... Hmmm... I wonder if she might be one of those "dark" Casavants, LOL!

Just funnin' ya Janice! Have a great Xmas all!

Scruffy

Gump, get the H-E-L-L off my chair!!! I requested my certs first! LOL! Your name must start with "A" (instead of "G") right?

What a lark! I'm probably still waiting 'cause I bad-mouthed an A-D agent, probably... That'll learn me... I've got LOTS of respect for RBC (dealt with them since I was a 9 year-old, stuffing away (a very small part of) my 25C allowance into my savings account each week...LOL) but I believe they could do better with an affiliate other than A-D... JIMVHO.

Not too worried though. I got 80% in certs back in April and have already faxed them in to the task force. It will be interesting to see which offers what first...

GLTY

Scruffy

Good-Till, I suppose the theory is that anyone (including UC) could buy nss CMKX shares (much easier than legit shares, depending upon who you talk to).

If true (and a very big IF), when reported along with the faxed cert results, that might settle the nss issue, without a follow-up fax-in account statements showing outstanding electronic shares, might it not?

Can't wait for the curtain to open and everything be revealed -for better or worse!

GLTY

Scruffy