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It's more and more possible to hit $2.50 first than $3.50. VRNG is hungry for cash but they won't give it.
It looks like ZTE won't settle either, taking cues from GOOG case.
Winning then might not matter. VRNG might not be able to see a dime in years on ZTE case either. Oh dear...
A pretended-to-be-lottery as well.
That's even farcer.
A/H is manipulative.
I see it is such that you either MAKE is or BREAK it. Your $10k will be either $5k or $20k.
Please, stop short selling argument nonsense. Use private reply.
Enough.
Longs are their own enemies it seems. Trading for pennies and nickels are making PPS run no lasting effect.
No more delay this time per the judge.
No doubt about it.
And if GOOG refuses to go from 3.5%, the Magistrate will report it to HJJ and HJJ will rule it soon after.
Simple. Settlement conference should be held "ON," or "BEFORE" December 1: it is NOT that they should create a date for conference by dec. 1 so that the date can be any date, sometime next July or October 2020.
Again, the settlement conference will be held between tomorrow and December 1.
I am adding today.
The problem is it is INCREASING. Why are shorts so confident that they will win in the end?
I bought some puts just in case with my core holding.
I do not think it is factored in.
I think he meant PPS all said and done after crazy short squeeze.
But still I think his estimate is a bit on the conservative side. But,
I found one common ground for a 3.5% RR between two who reply.
Kevin was $5 to $6.
MMRF was $6 to $8.
The common ground between the two is around $6.25 for a 3.5% RR.
1. What will be our share price at 3.5%, 5.5%, or 7.5% RR from Google?
2. And if ZTE settlement comes in at $350 million (only half the amount VRNG is asking), what will be our share price?
3. And if coincidentally, a ruling of a 5.5% RR from Google and $350 million settlement from ZTE come in one by one in the next few weeks (not impossible at all), what will be our share price?
4. In addition, how much are we asking for from ASUS, ADT & Tyco Integrated Security?
5. What other lawsuits are we assuming to take place in the near future and the prospects of them?
* I do not need a share price when lost in any case and I do not need a feedback from Ipittydafoo either.
Please, come up with your price in case of #1, 2, 3, and 4.
Maybe some consensus here can be used when trading/buying/selling at some point.
Thank you.
I just checked your msg history here.
I really want to compliment your passion and enthusiasm posting over 10 msgs per day to discredit HJJ and to scream shorts are dominating.
But, I am not buying it. As others said, you need to relax.
Because you waited too long, you are not clearly realizing/believing the trial is speeding to finalize.
I agree with Going2Good unlike Ipittydafoo who hasn't given HJJ the benefit of the doubt as everyone knows he hasn't.
Here is my take:
HJJ
1. wanted double protection to rule for one side against another to make sure he has been said "fair and balanced" (no pun intended),
2. wanted to make sure and proclaim that no other party will be successful in the appeal process if dare to go ahead with it.
I believe his mind has already been set for VRNG - I highly doubt he will go against the Jury verdict (GOOG sinned) and for future RR for minimum 3.5%, and the GOOG's own top engineer's testimony under oath for W/A issue. It takes a miracle or decisive evidence to go against them. But I do not think such a thing exists.
And the reason VRNG decided to go with a third party to find the experts (unlike GOOG who just chose experts themselves) is that
VRNG is confident that "no experts" will find W/A colorably different. And HJJ will see the confidence and fairness VRNG has here too.
In addition, even though the saction against GOOG was denied, it is undoubtful that HJJ see that GOOG has tried to manipulate the court system and caused additional time and expense for all the parties involved. And that will definately impact the amount of RR against GOOG as well.
The strong uneasiness HJJ has recently shown to both parties that they had not settled by then is his determination that as he put it in similar language, he will rule it this time for good (the settlement procedure is just that, procedure).
VRNG's procedure in searching and finding outside experts is way more professional than GOOG. JJ will see the difference.
I also like that fact that one of VRNG's experts is found to have a federal government security clearance.
Good job!