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Actually no I have no agenda. I wouldn't trade this with Satan's money let alone my own.
Not at all. Trying to save at least 1 person before this keeps going lower. Just as I did when it was at .06. I actually feel awful for people who are in this one. Including a personal friend of mine that got suckered in. Which is why my group began our investigation of this shell and the promotion companies paid on it recently.
But I'm not trying to induce panic. I'm trying to make people realistic.
Amazing how the facts finally start coming out. So glad I've been speaking of then all along. So close to the end result here.
And how long have I been here warning people of that? You know I came in here telling people to sell at .06. I'm not going to say that now. People have to make their own decisions but I'm telling you that you are running out of time to make that decision.
Well I think we can both agree on one thing. It's only .0012 from support.
I agree 100% was just taking a more non direct approach while I complete my research. Because I truly do not make any assumptions. I do all my own research and don't rely on anything posted on ihub. When I complete everything on my own I am confident in my decision and play it appropriately.
I'm actually discussing on this board not because I am investing but a group I fund received a request to investigate this company. So because my part with this team is focusing on all the "stock related" aspects while the lawyers and accountants on the team investigate everything else, I keep up to date with boards on ihub because a large part of our results has been in getting criminal charges pressed on those promoting if doing so without proper disclaimer.
Many of the promoters believe that because ihub doesn't make then do certain things and hide behind a fictitious identity that they do not have obligations still set forth by federal law. So generally we are even more successful at shutting then down than we are at shutting the companies down.
So I offer non objective strategies based on my specialties for those that are following so they can make their own objective decisions while not always focusing on the "to the moon" being spammed on the boards.
This is not one I've alerted to my investment group either. That service is my primary objective while the other team I fund is more of a hobby.
But just know I'm neither a basher or a pumper of anything. I always offer a view only based on the facts. And because I haven't yet spent much time on this uncovering the facts, my posts have been still non objective, honest, and in no way supporting differences I pps to either direction. And I will remain doing the same.
Ironically, through this investigation team I work with I end up finding many great investments as a result of the investigations we do so I refuse to allow myself to be biased to either direction. I simply state my posts based on what I actually see.
Or at least leased space paid for by share dilution. And a website with host fees around $50 per month. Doesn't take much these days to make a fortune off of unsuspecting share holders. In fact... A shell ticker, a business license and a PO Box is all you need.
Happy trading PBHG. Watch for a lower high to exit.
Great post as you are making a point that is best translated to beginners as you can't look at prior highs when you can verify the difference in outstanding and authorized shares.
Authorized shares aren't always in the market yet but could be at any time. Think of it as authorized dilution.
Outstanding shares are the ones already issued.
As investors we are forced to do some simple conversions as for example. If you believe OTHM can return to its prior high then you would have to figure the ratio of that prior high against the share balance at that time. When doing so and completing that ratio to current share balance you find that your top could be fundamentally predicted as 10% of that price. Not 10% below that price rather 10% of what it was.
So this is further reason to make the assumption that if you truly believe in this as an investable stock that you slowly accumulate with smaller amounts to reduce your risk. And as the share balance is reduced you begin adding proportionally based on the reduction.
Another investment 101 tip.
Ticking people off it seems. But I'm personally close to being back on free shares so once there it won't matter what they do. Once I'm back to free shares only I will hold them forever if need be as there won't be any risk in doing so.
Just sad to look at average daily volume in something showing that most people can't even sell. But if your average pps is below current pps it doesn't matter much I guess.
Speaking of apples and oranges. Netflix trades on a legitimate exchange, follows all sec regulations, makes available all information of share structure, regularly follows through on what they promise, has regulations and punitive measures when they do not do things properly, is run by someone that pays his bills and isn't a convicted felon, has revenue, has a real place of business that isn't in foreclosure now a private residence, has a product and subscribers, has capital to purchase content, has content to attract new content, has content to attract new customers, has both the financial and structural means to expand to new medias, has a proven leadership team that have actually been involved in other successful companies. So let compare apples and oranges why don't we. Or how about we compare what is more comparative and say apples and dog crap.
I agree that they seem to be meeting all of the criteria for sure. Just said I personally can't make that statement just yet.
The only thing I disagree with you on I'd calling it a scam. This is only because that is a strong accusation that I won't make personally until I know it as fact. If there is even a small percentage chance that they are actually trying to make things happen then while their results may look like a scam their attempts may not have that intention.
Now with that said I've called a few others a scam. But only once verified.
But let's face it. They can "try" with their money not mine. Because I care about my money not theirs.
Awesome week. Sold $10.50 covered calls near their high that expired friday, up on my puts too after exercising the $8 calls I was in. That's a great week in my book.
Probably not maybe. The status change request has already been submitted and the tardiness was already reported. And to think all he had to do was spend about 30 minutes filling out an extension form that was never filed. So just have to hope they get on the ball before Greys come. And if you don't know what that would mean... well means you won't be able to sell at .0002 because there will barely be bids at .0001. I will personally take 1 Milly shares at .0001 though. Heck... anything is worth 100 right?
Thank you! I couldn't ask for any more. Much respect granted.
So in weighing the positives and the negatives you have stated yourself I want to say this back to you as simply something to think about. But if you read your post without bias you will see why I am making this statement and why I make it regularly to my members.
The company has many bad things going for it currently that are verifiable as fact. There are some things they may do but none of it has been done yet.
Ok so a simple statement based on what you said. You acknowledged bad things that are fact and good things that are no more than a "what if".
So in investment terms you are saying you are willing to risk it all for a big "chance". And this fits perfectly to nearly everything I've ever said on any ihub board.
If you recognize potential but none of it has been followed through on then you take a small buy with nothing more than you are willing to lose all of. As the follow through begins taking place (and I do not mean a PR rather a verified filing) you begin to accumulate over time as the "speculative" good things begin to come true. And once the actual good things verified by filings which hold the company legally accountable begin taking place you can enter a little more each time until the good factually outweighs the bad. And by that time you would be well off on your average while never truly risking more than you were willing to lose initially.
Taking the smart approach to trading correctly would make it so that if you are speculating and you lose it all then there would be nothing to complain about because you put not more money in than you were willing to lose.
The next essential rule for any investor is that you never put more than 10% of your portfolio into any stock. Yes this means if you happened to pick the 1 in every 9 million that actually make it that you would make less. But if you picked the 8,999,999 that don't you are still in the game and able to have the chance to recover.
Another huge mistake made by people I see on ihub is trading on borrowed money. I feel awful for these people because the simple action they completed proves they are incompetent of rational thought and that breaks my heart. No different than when I see the handicapped taken advantage of.
Now don't think you can't make it with a small account either. In fact I am live trading a small account daily right in front of my members to prove you can. I made my little account smaller than the smallest account in my group too simply to prove it can be done. And this past week I was up $86 on what started Monday as $445. That's 19% and would be impossible for you to say that isn't good.
Now relate that to my average of doubling my personal accounts every 73 days and you will see why I work so hard to teach people how to do this properly.
I didn't start rich either. Grew up poor. Got my first job at age 12. Joined the military and was medically retired as a combat disabled veteran in 2006.
I've been there. I've lost it all. I've made the mistakes. And all I do now is set out to try and at least help 1 other person not have to make the mistakes I made.
I wish you and everyone else the best of luck. But please remember that proper disciplined trading is the only way to protect yourself. And this goes for all stocks from .0001 to whatever the highest one is.
And what I've shared isn't debate able because if you truly take the time to read it, the only thing you can say is "wow, he's right and I've made those mistakes too". So I say to you to be aware of your money because truly you are the only one that cares about it. And don't let anyone convince you otherwise.
And I will admit that after our private talk the other night my personal opinion of you has changed a tad. And will give you the benefit of the doubt that your spamming of the boards are due to your excitement rather than what it actually looks like. Hopefully us at least having meaningful conversations now both you and people who follow you will make better decisions than on neohydro.
I honestly just don't like seeing people make bad decisions. It's one thing to have a losing trade. But a much different thing to hold a loss until there is nothing left.
Yep. That's about all its good for.
Just a heads up... your caps lock key must be stuck which is causing you to make a key Internet etiquette mistake. You can find this button on your keyboard on the left side above the shift key.
Posting in all caps makes it seem like you may have something important to say and judging by this post and many more in other boards you don't.
This is also common practice for pumpers on ihub. Good traders don't need to pump an ihub board to profit and if you are no better than someone that stoops to those levels I am going to ask politely that you don't associate yourself with me.
Thank you for respecting this request as I feel it reasonable and in proper representation of how I present myself on these boards.
Not a problem at all. As you can see I am not based. I'm not partial to either the positive or negative on any stock. I'm partial to the truth. And you know, there are negatives with any stock including ones I am in. If you are aware of the those negatives you will be more inclined to better to have a more profitable experience. Just remember, the people you expect to make you money by running a company take profits all the time by means of a pay check. By never fully exiting yet reducing and adding in on lows you can make your money work for you and get your reward for the work you do staying current on their information give you the paycheck you deserve.
I'm not long on this. I flip and short as the opportunity presents itself.
I've been in NTE% since .0006 but I also don't give up profits. I never sell all when I sell. And have built a position that is very large and that right now I have no capital in. The fact is you shouldn't give them the benefit of the doubt. You should demand your money is well cared for my falling simple to follow trade rules.
If you like the company never sell all your shares. Load on higher lows and reduce on lower highs. Work the company just as you expect them to work for you. This also creates steady volume and the ability for you to support your stock.
And hoe did those same thoughts work for you on neohydro, scripts and that little mining play?
Facts are that even those had offered many promising insights with no delivery and have proven that the best play on them was to play them technically while awaiting these things to take place. You can't contest that as you and I both know it to be fact.
Don't allow yourself to be overtaken by nothing but good thoughts of any company. You must protect your investment as best as possible in every investment you make. That is all I am saying.
While many penny stocks have many promising ideas it is only when these ideas actually produce results that you see sustainable share prices rather than high risers and fast fallers.
If you take the time to clear your head and get off of the Kool aide then you see this to be true on MOST of the stocks whether trading on legitimate markets or ones that are a haven for fraud like the otc.
Notice I never advised anyone not to trade or to trade as that is their decision and their decision alone. I simply advised to keep a level head in your trading.
My legal team is just beginning to look into this one and it won't be until the research is complete that I'd ignore reality of technicals when my money goes in. But I challenge you to go through the charts for 100 of the top penny stocks even from here at ihub and tell me investors weren't at least better off in reducing postings based on technicals. You won't find a single one that is not the case for.
They can sell all they want on my bids there.
Does this include information on not following through on a single PR, unpaid debts, huge dilution and well... Peter being a crook?
In doing more study of recent time and sales, contacting the TA and researching the sec filings what I have found is a large amount of periodic dilutions. The way they are blocked it seems like convertible notes just simply due to the time periods they were done. Honestly I would take advantage of opportunities to trade this if you like it but would not look to invest until the company does a buy back. With current share structure, fundamentals and then mix in some technicals I don't thing you are that far from a capped price of a high between .0019 and .0027 without and buy back that restructures the outstanding share balance. Due to the extremely low float you could easily see low level swings between .0007 and .0015. Since we are in the low level swing area I'd simply trade between those values.
Hey "Tigers Fans"! Judging by the company on this board and their past let me tell you what you have. A bunch of fluff, them selling, leaving for 4 months with you in the dark after believing in them only to come back and drive it again.
I've made a good amount of money trading stocks where I see them on the boards. Good traders don't need to spam ihub boards to make money. But these people do. What's that tell you?
Easy Money to be made here though. Flip the snot out of it .0012 to .0014 nearly daily.
Just remember that real companies don't trade in the otc markets. Even ones I'm up a ton on. Real companies ipo on legit markets and continue trading there. Real companies are fully reporting, follow every sec guideline and again... don't trade on the otc markets.
Otc markets are a haven for fraud. Sad but true. Trade for what they give you but don't give up profits for any hopes and dreams. If you believe in the company then look for opportunities to sell to free shares. This means selling just enough to obtain your initial capital and buying again on the dips. This significantly reduces your risk after the first trade is completed.
I wish every trader the best of luck and no harm in any way. I simply wish to offer caution so that you don't allow losses to occur for no reason. There is no need for that.
One thing I teach my members at WSC is to always focus more on the risk and capital preservation than the butterfly and rainbow stories shared on idiot hub. Use information you see here never to make buy and sell decisions but to verify yourself directly from the company which is either the most reliable source or subject to lawsuit if they lie.
Remember also that no matter what the company is there are both negatives and positives but you need to do your research on it all. Keep a level head about you and understand key tools and disciplines required for achieving financial freedom through investing/trading.
Also make sure you directly confirm from the company that no one is receiving compensation to promote the stock. If there is ask their company name and even specifically their ihub handle. If it is known many of them will give it to you.
Don't rush into a trade before doing your research and never hold a big loss. Due to the price here you can't help the potential loss percentage much because every tick can hurt. So it's always best to scale in over time or use every opportunity available to trade around your core position to reduce or eliminate you risk.
Again, I wish you all the best of luck and am more than willing to offer any assistance in helping you plan your trades. Just pm me or respond to this email and I will pm you.
Many think I am a basher on ihub but I am not. I'm a realist and I've saved people a lot of money. I can tell you that I have never and will never receive compensation to promote any security as I personally fund investigations to get those people jailed and the companies shut down. But I do have a great deal of experience and have made a lot of money following some easy to use disciplines. I am so sick of seeing people lose money on these sticks found on these boards that are known to be moderated by promoters.
So at some time someone has to step in and give good unbiased opinions based on their own investing. I'm personally not invested here at all. Why would I when I can pop 15%+ easily nearly every day. If anything actually were to cause pps to jump then using profits made I'd be in no danger chasing.
Best of luck to all!
That's what I was thinking lol. I just feel bad for those who are holding and didn't sell when the. Warnings were being posted here.
Who in their right mind would be buying this?
I'm long in NTEK but also realistic. Today verified a lower high after a double top and lower low. Normal action for a stock so nothing to be afraid of but also nothing to be buying. Love NTEK but is shameful to suggest buying here.
You are right. These flips from .0003 to .0004 are good. 33% is a good return.
Due to dilution that has happened the stock can't fundamentally reach that price unless a buy back is done by the company. Notice I didn't say they won't eventually do a buyback but until they do you can't bank on it. More commonly you could see .005 again on a R/S but that wouldn't be a true .005 based on current structure. When one learns how to trade a penny and project correctly it makes big differences in their profits.
I agree. I'm looking to flip again probably around .0011 if it holds or .0007.
I'm short... again
Yeah not at all. People don't realize that the huge increase in OS since the big highs of before simply can't fundamentally happen now due to the share structure. They would literally have to buy back all the dilution before it was possible.
Cool so just 2.2 billion more to go as the AS is 5 billion.
Not at all. I chased today
I applaud you then for holding those .000s. I sold mine near the top last time. But since you are up on the position all is well. Good luck to you.