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Thanks man!,.. so many tunes/art vids - so little time 🙂
If the former president wins the East Coast trio of Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia, he will go back to the White House.
If we win NC, Georgia won't even matter.
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/09/19/trump-three-swing-states-election-win-00179648?utm_source=pocket-newtab-en-us
Don't do drugs or religion kids, but,.. if you must abdicate your personal responsibility for you existence..
Check it out Surf, my chat bot buddy thought I was on the right track with a query.
You’re right; the distinction between critical analysis and whining often hinges on intention, tone, and the presence of constructive elements. Here are some key differences:
Critical Analysis
Objective and Evidence-Based: Critical analysis involves examining an issue or argument systematically and objectively. It relies on evidence and logical reasoning to support claims
1.Constructive Feedback: The goal is to provide constructive feedback that can lead to improvement or deeper understanding. It often includes suggestions for how things could be better
2.Balanced Perspective: It considers both positive and negative aspects, offering a balanced view rather than focusing solely on the negatives
2.Purposeful: The intention is to inform, educate, or improve a situation. It’s driven by a desire to understand and solve problems
Whining
Subjective and Emotional: Whining is often driven by personal dissatisfaction and emotions rather than objective analysis. It lacks a solid foundation of evidence Complaints Without Solutions: It tends to focus on what’s wrong without offering any constructive solutions or suggestions for improvement
Negative Focus: Whining usually emphasizes the negative aspects and overlooks any positives, leading to a one-sided view
Intent to Vent: The primary intention is to vent frustrations rather than to seek understanding or improvement.
Key Factors to Consider
Intention: Is the goal to improve and understand, or just to express dissatisfaction?
Evidence: Are the points backed by evidence and logical reasoning, or are they based on personal feelings?
Constructiveness: Does the feedback include suggestions for improvement, or is it just a list of complaints?
Tone: Is the tone balanced and objective, or is it overly negative and emotional?
By focusing on these factors, you can better distinguish between critical analysis and whining. Do you have a specific situation in mind where you’re trying to make this distinction?
Yes I do. You don't seem to address those people that whine or use critical analysis to push an agenda. Some agenda's are of course positive but some like propaganda twist the truth for often nefarious goals.
You’re absolutely right. The intention behind the analysis or complaint can significantly impact its nature and reception. Here’s how agendas can play a role:
Critical Analysis with an Agenda
Selective Evidence: When pushing an agenda, individuals might selectively present evidence that supports their viewpoint while ignoring or downplaying contrary evidence.
Framing and Spin: The way information is framed can influence perception. For example, emphasizing certain facts while omitting others can create a biased narrative.
Persuasive Language: The use of persuasive or emotive language can sway opinions and manipulate emotions, rather than presenting a balanced view.
Goal-Oriented: The primary goal is to advance a specific agenda, which can sometimes lead to distortion or exaggeration of facts.
Whining with an Agenda
Exaggeration and Hyperbole: Whining with an agenda often involves exaggerating problems to make them seem worse than they are.
Victim Mentality: It may portray the speaker or their group as victims to garner sympathy and support.
Blame and Division: This approach often involves blaming others and creating an “us vs. them” mentality, which can be divisive.
Emotional Manipulation: The focus is on eliciting an emotional response rather than fostering understanding or solutions.
Propaganda
Misinformation and Disinformation: Propaganda often involves spreading false or misleading information to shape public perception.
Repetition: Repeating certain messages frequently to reinforce them in the public mind.
Appeal to Emotions: Using emotional appeals to bypass rational analysis and directly influence beliefs and behaviors.
Control of Information: Limiting access to alternative viewpoints to create a controlled narrative.
Key Factors to Consider
Source Credibility: Evaluate the credibility of the source and whether they have a history of bias or agenda-driven content.
Cross-Verification: Cross-check information with multiple reputable sources to identify potential biases or misinformation.
Critical Thinking: Apply critical thinking skills to assess the validity and reliability of the information presented.
Understanding these tactics can help you discern the true nature of the analysis or complaint and recognize when an agenda might be influencing the narrative. Do you have a specific example or situation where you’re seeing this play out?
Generally speaking in the bull and bear discussions that go on stock chat boards, you can see a lot of exaggeration - often to influence the share price but often people who have a strong belief about factors being discussed. Everything from a share selling scheme to next best and disruptive thing in the marketplace. The SEC rewards research and whistleblowing for example - that is great incentive with sometimes million dollar payouts. This sometimes goes to far with a short and distort campaign by some of those "researchers". But I suppose there is abuse in every human interaction and one just needs to maintain some critical thinking skills.
You’ve highlighted a very pertinent issue in the world of stock trading and investment discussions. The dynamics on stock chat boards can indeed be complex, with a mix of genuine analysis, exaggerated claims, and sometimes even manipulative tactics. Here are some key points to consider:
Bull and Bear Discussions
Exaggeration and Hype: Both bulls (optimists) and bears (pessimists) can exaggerate to sway opinions. Bulls might hype a stock as the next big thing, while bears might paint a dire picture to drive prices down.Influence on Share Price: These discussions can influence share prices, especially for smaller, less liquid stocks. This is why it’s crucial to approach such forums with a critical eye.
Research and Whistleblowing
Incentives: The SEC does offer significant rewards for whistleblowers who provide valuable information leading to enforcement actions. This can be a powerful incentive for uncovering fraud and misconduct.
Potential for Abuse: However, this system can be abused. Some individuals might engage in “short and distort” campaigns, spreading false or misleading information to profit from a decline in stock prices.
Maintaining Critical Thinking Skills
Verify Information: Always cross-check information from multiple reputable sources before making investment decisions.
Understand Motivations: Consider the motivations behind the information being shared. Is the person providing analysis genuinely interested in the stock’s potential, or do they have a financial incentive to sway opinions?
Look for Evidence: Reliable analysis should be backed by solid evidence and logical reasoning. Be wary of claims that lack substantiation.
Stay Informed: Keep up with regulatory updates and market news to better understand the broader context of the discussions.
Navigating Stock Chat Boards
Be Skeptical: Approach all information with a healthy dose of skepticism. Not everything you read will be accurate or unbiased.
Engage Thoughtfully: Participate in discussions, but do so thoughtfully. Ask questions, seek clarification, and challenge unsupported claims.
Educate Yourself: Continuously educate yourself about the market, investment strategies, and common tactics used in stock manipulation.
By maintaining a critical mindset and being aware of the potential for manipulation, you can better navigate the often tumultuous waters of stock chat boards. Do you have any specific strategies you use to filter through the noise in these discussions?
Just one really - I read the Question and Answer board at the iPub and the good folk there tell me what to think. Thanks!..
Very interpretive fo sho - between a grievance and a whine and all the many layers available.
Just heard last night how Captain Beefheart took his handle,
Something like a critical social commentator with a heart.
I think it's the sniping I suck at.
Also, that catch 22 needs some escape route; Get over it or quit being so boring.
Trail breakers Omo. I liked what Don said about the origin of Beefheart,
Something like he's a social commenter (gripes) with a heart.
You actually said something about not understanding some content or phrasin' - boring hurts. Let's take a vote. Strike that, boring sounds good if it's the absence of drama (Queen's ;). I know I don't communicate "the same" as some. Some don't communicate as many. Ok, take for example Janice. I find her a master at clear communication. I usually understand what she intends and despite being many pay grades below. Her insults are rare. Actually she doesn't really insult but might state the obvious like "you didn't read a word of that article you are commenting on did you?", "you are not concerned at all that you are espousing non nonsensical talking points of a moron", etc,..
Anyhow, I think you really do appreciate me with your immediate post following of diverse and brilliant mix and thank you and well played ;).
Stop whinin' Surf
Just kidding ;)
There is a me in team but it's got an a between it and reversed.
For sure Zor, I wasn't making the recommendation to the extreme - just don't recommend it in common usage. It can be playful like in the Big Lembowski or adolescent and rude the way I used it the other day with longrider. He may have spent some time on a Dude Ranch but likely the owner and between his long rides ;)..
.. Back then, a “dude” was an urbanite. It's what western cattle ranchers, a.k.a. cowboys, called big-shot city slickers. When city dwellers from the East Coast discovered that ranch visits in the wide open West made for great vacations, ranches started hosting them – and eventually charging them for their stays.
Just knowing this now makes it more inappropriate.
You make valid points but as far as the TOS reference I made it was for the other part of the post I replied to - nothing to do with Dude.
Very cool. Didn't know the two of them went back that far to 58' and
arizona thinks I'm eccentric ;),
Well, I'm lost in a whirlpool
Yeah, baby, my head is goin' round
Well, ever since my baby flushed me
Oh, been goin' round, yeah round and around
Well, I'm lost in this whirlpool
I keep goin' down and down
There's a big brown fish
Lookin' at me
He ain't got no eyes
How could that motherfucker possibly see
Ooh, baby baby
I'm gonna be afraid it'd gonna touch me
Well I'm lost in this whirlpool
Oh, I can't even see
Baby, won't you come help me
Pour some drainer down,
And get the plunger right after me
I'll let you know a little secret, baby
I'm gettin' tired of all this pee
Don't go stranded, mother goose
Ooh, my head's in a noose . . .
Who does the assigning?.. is it geolocation?.. is it like the iPub where people maintain a avatar for hiding personal info?.. TOS that provide for these things?..
Seems that people would quickly figure who and where everyone is by the nature of the sharing..
But yeah, the review process I'm sure is always in need of tweaking - I suggest build up a language model with criteria and see if what comes out is satisfactory.
Roos, that was fun.. did you ever find out where those boys were?..
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=usa+has+over+700+military+installations+all+over+the+world
C'mon Zor, I may have never seen that vid of Kammie if dberg didn't post it.
I was truly thankful.
It was enriching in several ways that I'd be happy to elaborate on.
On a personal note - yours;
You seem really "team" oriented and not a bad thing in itself but
For those of us who don't align it can be a bit of an irrelevant nuisance..
😇
.. don't say dude arizona, people don't like the sound of it or taste it leaves in one's mouth.
Omo does have some support with iPub TOS
Lol, not a bad idea dbergh Shorting Condom companies Going long Viagra companies..
I saw Janice's reply which takes care of some of the authoritative support and
I do know, monies for first time home owners, child support, $25k for what is $5k now = tax break/or cash for a new business, etc,.. are good investments and a drop in the bucket compared to corporate welfare.
Quebec had a similar thing and impressed the wife for her two kids when she reminisced the other day.. it was like 500 bucks for the first kid and go to 1000 for the second and I think it kept going. I think this was per month.. wowza. Gol darn govt run puppy mill is what it was.
That seems early but cool. Where my thoughts were going and hope this doesn't sound too conspiratorial;
- Trump has uncanny support and not just from people who feel left behind or cynical and take pleasure in radical drain the swamp rhetoric.
- Seems real real important to a lot of very wealthy people his party is elected.
- He looks more and more a liability.
- So, if it is too late for a change on the ballot in the usual way................... > literally fire his ass with a bullet.
Little to go on so far but seems an independent thinker,
moralistic, gets involved, wears his chips on his sleeves,
gun carrier, bad driver.. but.. would need a little more clarification on Possession of a
WEAPON OF MASS DESTRUCTION
https://webapps.doc.state.nc.us/opi/viewoffender.do?method=view&offenderID=0787176&searchLastName=routh&searchFirstName=ryan&searchMiddleName=w&searchGender=M&searchDOBRange=0&listurl=pagelistoffendersearchresults&listpage=1
Excellent Omo, very cool, watched the Letterman interview twice - the more i know the more i know i don't know.. feels like dementia setting in;
Lydon told Pitchfork about the record: “There’s just so much on this: It’s a double album and by the time you finish it—if you can finish it—you can’t remember what you heard at the beginning. I liked that. It was anti-music in the most interesting and insane way, like kids learning to play violin—which I was going through at the time. So all the bum notes I was being told off for by the teachers were finally being released by well-known artists. That was my confirmation. From then on, there was room for everything.”
Beefheart wore his imperfections on his sleeve, and Lydon found solace in the fact that the American tore up the rulebook. It wasn’t just his music which was absurd; everything from his music videos to his bizarre appearance on David Letterman were frankly preposterous but also awe-inspiring.
https://faroutmagazine.co.uk/captain-beefheart-video-too-weird-mtv/
For sure Zab, we is industrious critters like a bee hive. Although, there are examples like Saudi or Nordic that at least approach a less dog eat dog.....
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_basic_income_in_the_Nordic_countries
He has stated many times the common folk being left behind and why the experts say Trump has so much support (still). A cynicism about both parties being in the pocket of Corporate Greed/Power (Modern Day Capitalism obviously). Rural Southern USA - Okay, where is B402 coming from?.
There is a lot of 'teaching' going on but of the propaganda/ideological kind. I'm shocked by the amount of money from CONservative PAC's, Musk, biased "news" outlets, etc,.. that push people's (base) emotional buttons .. to what end?; greed, what ever that word is for https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=right+wing+christianity+word "values", some kind of grievance, ? etc,.. .
There's a lot of highly educated people that seem satisfied with their calculus so don't know if schools/anti-intellectual bias says it.
That was a great interview, guess she is not in hiding like former UK ambassador suggested, thanks dber.. specific policies for middle class strugglers, unity for the American public not the division of trumpery, sane gun policy and she seems a sane regular.. not too many eccentricities like rape, porn stars, pathological lying or the worst - cheating at golf.
Kamala Harris has never broken 80 in a round of golf 😬⛳️
— Tour Golf (@PGATUOR) August 19, 2024
Former us ambassador from uk says kammie needs to do major pork in key states, come outta hiding and Starmer needs to meet trump
.. says Trump is now “a less formidable campaigner” than in 2016, “down on energy, more liable to become confused, with a mind cluttered with grievances. And he remains a policy-free zone.”
“But,” he adds, “he is still capable of connecting with the ‘left behind’ to a level few others can match, a talent which ensures a devoted and enduring support base in a country where one in three workers say they live paycheck to paycheck.”
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/sep/15/trump-likelier-winner-unless-harris-tackles-two-failings-says-ex-ambassador
Lol, freely admit to that!. I generally like people and try to see where they are coming from..
There must be a diagram out there somewhere where we can fill in the blanks for that composite sketch ;).
If it's ok, I'll leave that to the board and go watch a flick with da wife, thanks..
There is that to some degree and like any post of that nature I generally ignore it.
He did have some interesting links - not an unintelligent southern gentleman.
Nick Hanauer, Hitchens, Chris Hedges,.............
Zab, is it still possible for Trump to be replaced?. Seems to be an effective strategy.
Trump self destructing day after day, two months of the trump reality show, where America will keep sticking it to him, pass the popcorn, extra butter please.
Try to understand his points of view but the dems this dems that was tiresome and obvious. The corporate greed thing so obviously weighs heavier with the Repugs a bit disingenuous as well.
I hate it. Hard to understand. How many snow flakes before his boughs break?,
https://www.techguy.org/threads/the-weight-of-a-snowflake-i-dont-get-this-story.821357/
Too bad Trumpery is somehow immune to scandal.
Just raccoons and foxes, not sure what that has to do with income inequality pertaining to Nextdoor but overall sounds to me like a good site.
Better I'm sure with you as a moderator.
Thanks longrider, interesting topic for sure, I have no idea of course but passed yours by ChatGBT for your interest:
Your summary captures the essence of the distinction between executive actions and executive orders well, but there are a few clarifications and additions that might help:
Presidential Powers and Laws: It’s correct that the U.S. President cannot unilaterally pass laws. According to the Constitution, the President can propose legislation and has the power to veto bills passed by Congress, but only Congress has the authority to make laws. This reflects the system of checks and balances designed to prevent any one branch of government from becoming too powerful.
Executive Orders: These are official directives issued by the President to manage the operations of the federal government. Executive orders are legally binding and have the force of law, provided they are based on authority granted by the Constitution or federal statutes. They are published in the Federal Register and can be challenged in court or overturned by subsequent Presidents or Congress.
Executive Actions: The term "executive action" is less formal and can refer to a range of activities including executive orders, presidential memoranda, and other directives. While executive actions may not always have the force of law, they can still influence policy and administrative practices. They often signal the President's priorities or outline specific administrative strategies.
Legal and Legislative Reversibility: Both executive orders and executive actions can be challenged in court if they are deemed unconstitutional or if they overstep legal authority. Additionally, Congress can pass new legislation that may alter or negate the effects of an executive order, and a subsequent President can reverse previous executive orders.
In summary, while the President has significant influence over policy through executive orders and actions, the power to create or alter laws lies with Congress. The President's role is primarily to enforce and execute the laws passed by Congress.
Seems like an unbiased and analytical opinion on the latest Polls (48-45% Kammie)
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cj4x71znwxdo
Hey Bull, never heard of Nextdoor. So my first article/opinion (Guardian) seems balanced but concludes there's a bit of a glitch with income inequality.
Ever get that sense as a mod?,
It has been claimed in America that Nextdoor is most active in neighbourhoods not badly afflicted by crime, but in which there is an exaggerated fear of it. The company maintains that the network is used across all communities. Whatever the truth, a healthy community steadfastness against crime is easily parlayed into hostility towards strangers, outsiders, minorities, the poor and the mentally ill.
In turn, that hostility can create a virtual gated community that, sooner or later, leads to the real thing. It’s a cycle that may prove profitable for the well-heeled and well-protected, and for those who service them, but it’s unlikely to make for a kinder world.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/mar/20/is-nextdoor-a-friend-in-need-or-vigilante-nightmare
Lime, thought I read recently that there was only one (left).
to only one iHub ADMIN
Musk also replies with a cry-laughing emoji to a tweet criticizing the media from the early alt-right influencer Lauren Southern. A Canadian activist who has promoted the “great replacement” white nationalist conspiracy theory, Southern was a member of the “talent team” for Tenet Media until early September. A Department of Justice investigation unsealed around the same time as her exit accused Tenet Media of being a Russian-backed propaganda operation that used $10m in foreign money to bankroll rightwing media influencers. Southern and others on the talent team deny having any knowledge that the money was coming from Russia.
All of this is before 1pm, by which time Musk will have tweeted about 89 times.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2024/sep/14/elon-musk-tweets-trump-conspiracy
Musk revisits not only the same themes, but some of the exact same posts and news items that he tweeted about earlier. At 11.12pm he responds with another cry-laughing emoji to the same picture of negative headlines about his Trump interview that he sent a cry-laughing emoji about at 8.36am.
Before the day ends, X debuts a beta version of its new AI image generator. Almost immediately, people begin to discover that it will generate images of public figures or sexualized content, unlike other popular image generators. Musk begins using cry-laughing emojis to egg on supporters creating images using the tool – in one case an image with the prompt “make an image of a half cat half woman with boobs”.
A phone screen shows a Grok sign up page that prompts verified X users to 'participate in the early access program'
Musk’s ‘fun’ AI image chatbot serves up Nazi Mickey Mouse and Taylor Swift deepfakes
Over the next few days Grok will be used to generate a range of political content, sexualized depictions of celebrities and violent images. After rightwing influencer accounts use the tool to create images of Taylor Swift and her fans supporting Trump’s candidacy, Trump will cause a wave of controversy by posting the AI images on his Truth Social account. Swift will later cite the incident in an Instagram post throwing her support behind the Harris presidential campaign.
Musk’s last post before midnight is celebrating his new image generator, tweeting “Rate of progress of Grok is 🚀 🚀🚀”. He will continue to post into the night, sending almost 50 more tweets over the next three hours.
At 3.11am, Musk responds with heart-eyes emoji to an image of him and a shiba inu dog dressed as ancient Roman soldiers generated by Grok. The flurry of replies and posts then goes silent. At 8.01am, he starts posting again.
Pure hearted capitalism newmed. dog eat dog. no morals. if the zeitgeist is one of cynicsm, despair and mad max what's a little skimming of cream off the top of your buddies cafe labotte'.
kinda like penny stocks.. everybody knows
The Kiffness - Eating the Cats
The Kiffness x Donald Trump - Eating the Cats 😿🐶 Stream / Buy: https://t.co/r9KxcnOn4n pic.twitter.com/bZpytKBEdO
— The Kiffness (@TheKiffness) September 13, 2024
12yr, wtf?; Why is there not a post gone viral on this forum outting this diabolical plan, these individuals - to capture the democratic process?.