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I am rather surprised, after the sec mess a few picks ago I really thought statler would stick with more legit companies in order to rebuild confidence... not sure tlpy fits the criteria...
HUTN - is this one way under valued or am i missing something? Any feedback is greatly appreciated.
.0001 sounds like a safe bet right? it can only go up from there right?
WRONG, this is heading for an RS and those .0001 shares will be worth a fraction of .0001 in no time
the dilution machine is grinding away and there is nothing on the horizon that can overcome it. in fact look at the selling into the past news and its blatantly destructive of the pps, add the RS and its just ugly
best case is that the earnings report sparks volume... but then that will just kick in more dumping, dilution and smart people fleeing the exits before the swan dive (just look at the retail on the ask, lot of losses over the months and way more to come)
a lot of hype here and nothing to back it up except empty dreams, this had potential when there was progress toward a plan, problem is that the public plan and the private plan were not in line with each other and in fact were directly opposing with the pps being the sacrificial lamb
this isn't even a good flipper any more with the non stop dumping into news and more dumping into no news, not a smart way to manage the dump here, they could have at least keep peoples interest with cycling or sideways fluctuation but this is just a bloodbath, sheep following the lamb, sad mismanagement imo
baaaaah
$157,500,000
"The asset purchase was based on a value of $157,500,000 based on company assessment which includes an independent third-party valuation."
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=10371887
i must be looking at this wrong bc those numbers mean they are looking at it trading around $30 a share...?
any input?
PRESS RELEASE
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:
EFH Group Trading Under New Symbol -
HUTN
DENVER and NEW YORK, December 22, 2014 – EFH Group,
Inc. was assigned a new symbol and is now
traded on the OTC – QB market under the symbol HUTN
.
EFH Group, Inc., a holding company. Through its wh
olly-
owned subsidiary, EFH Financial Corp., expanding
the range of financial services and products it pro
vides to individuals, corporations and institutions
throughout
the United States. The Company was previously a pr
ovider of surety bonds, a specialty financial produ
ct.
EFH Group is in the process of expanding its busine
ss. In November 2014 the company engaged a new
management team with extensive experience in financ
ial services. At the same time, the company purcha
sed
assets that are important to its business expansion
. The assets were purchased for 57,970,000 shares,
consisting
of 52,173,000 shares of common stock and 5,797,000
shares of class B common stock. The asset purchase
was
based on a value of $157,500,000 based on company a
ssessment which includes an independent third-
party
valuation. The assets ’
presentation in future financial statements, whethe
r on the balance sheet or in the notes,
will be based on generally accepted accounting prin
ciples.
In 2015, the company plans to introduce new product
s and services which will be provided to individual
s,
corporations and institutions in the United States
via the internet and other distribution channels.
In the first
quarter of 2015 the company intends to announce its
new product, sales and distribution plans.
# # #
Please direct inquiries to:
media@efhgroup.com
This release contains includes "forward-
looking statements" within the meaning of the safe
harbor provisions of the United
States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995. These statements are based upon the current b
eliefs and
expectations of company
management and are subject to significant risks and
uncertainties. If underlying assumptions
prove inaccurate or risks or uncertainties material
ize, actual results may differ materially from thos
e set forth in the
forward
-looking statements. The company undertakes no obli
gation to publicly update any forward-
looking statement,
whether as a result of new information, future even
ts or otherwise.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/edgar/GetFilingPdf?FilingID=10371887
anyone think it will get suspended after the fact?
could make for a good short, in 10 days itll be at .05 (if that)
even if its not halted itll probably be there by eoy
i was hoping for a good bounce but it feels like everyone is worried that it will be halted tomorrow... if not tomorrow maybe the bounce?
thats if there are still pump emails going out...
hmmmm
i was expecting another pump email by now... guess not
there really should be a good bounce but now that this is crashing eod without a recovery i wonder... any thoughts?
feels like we are at the bottom now
im back in for the big bounce
eod rally?
there cant be many ppl left holding with the sell volume today
remember the TGRO bounces, looks like this could be a great second run
'unique discounted opportunity'
if we keep getting emails id say this can go back up strong
wow, they are seriously pumping this one... ive never seen this much push to keep a pick going from stocktips, they must really want this one to hit $1 and if they keep it up it may just do it
just an interesting observation but if we look at how many shares were just dumped as compared to how many have been accumulated over the past few days... it seems to me that there is a lot of confidence in holding this for a much bigger payoff... i say this bc usually when the end of pump dump occurs the volume is huge
also, take a look at this recovery thats building
either there are a lot of people holding out and hoping for this to be their ticket to having a Merry Christmas or stocktips really is up to something when they say 'rewriting the rules' bc this isnt dead yet
all it takes is another email saying something like 'short attack is over', road is cleared for smooth ride to $2 and we could see a huge day today
do you think its dead... or just clearing the way for a bigger run?
if they are not done pumping it you do understand what a selloff like this does, dont you?
if we see another statler email anytime soon this mng i can see this reverse just as quick and finish strong green
new hod at 2:40... power hour starting early
if this isnt an indicator of what is about to happen idk what is!
fa-ged-ah-boud-dit ECRY is about to blast off!
true, however, the holiday and the half day of trading have to be factored in so if we are measuring run time by 'days' we still have a day and a half
now consider the emphasis that is being placed on 'rewriting the rules' which could be a hint at an extended promo which could mean that this is going to continue to run on into next week
lets face it, this is manipulated in order to create volume so 'someone' can dump shares into the volume and yet keep the momentum notching it up... if they let up on dumping shares the pps goes up... usually the 'super run' is created when they stop dumping and the bid volume plays catch-up
it does not appear that they have stopped dumping so the 'super run' is yet to occur
if there is enough solid interest this could be pumped longer and the pps could go thru the roof which seems to be exactly what they have planned here in order to regain credibility that was lost over the past few picks... they want to restore as much confidence as possible by making this one epic in order to keep and gain people moving forward for future picks
i would not be surprised to see this rocket up eod and tomorrow
plus there is still a possibility that the co could release significant news and create an issue for shorts which could help add fuel to fire... what if this started a legit run on real news and the pump catapulted it upward? at this point it is all about shareholder confidence, if the majority of the holders right now believe this could hit $1... it will
it hasnt had the 'super run' yet that the stocktips picks normally have
the 'normal' pattern seems to be 3 days of solid runs before the dip
plus the volume usually sinks below the previous days volume, thats the trigger before the sell-off day
looks like the dip today cleared the way
imo i think the 'super run' is about to start
i dont think so... this has at least one more solid day to run
if we see another statler email id say eod and tomorrow will be the biggest gainers yet
once it breaks .60 itll most likely make big jumps up
just need to break down that wall at .56 first, if it can do that in the next hour and a half power hour could be epic
yesterday we saw about a .03 rise throughout the day until power hour when it went from around .45 to .52
today we are seeing about a .06 rise
so can we expect to see double the power hour too?
if so, .14 power hour could see the eod in the .70s
nice job!
about time the spew of hater sauce ran out... wonder what they will do with themselves now?
hard to say. l2 shows 3703K at .0003 but 10K of that is VFIN which is known for providing false l2 info.. that 10K could be 100Mill
10K .23
43203K .0004
3703K .0003
(you are here)
101261K .0002
12580K .0001
still have worthless 1 share sells popping up at the lower pps
its at .0002 right now bc of one of those ignorant trades
*****WARNING ABOUT OLD, UNRELATED INFO *****
it seems that there is a significant amount of confusion between the OLD CLNP and the NEW CLNP
please be advised that the OLD CLNP was a shell that was recently bought out by the NEW CLNP
NONE OF THE OLD INFORMATION HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE NEW COMPANY!
New CLNP is a NEW COMPANY with NEW OWNERSHIP and NEW PRODUCTS
and the unrelated stickies removed
hey, guess what...
all of those filings were for a reason
confirmed-
new owner
new products
new company
perhaps its time to remove all of the irrelevant info that has nothing to do with the NEW COMPANY
also time to ignore latent information about the OLD COMPANY which has nothing to do with CLNP now
its nice to be right
its even better to not be wrong shouting misinformation in the streets for months on end just to find out it was all a waste of time and energy as the truth steamrolls over all of the lies
time heal all wounds
and wounds all heels
(unless of course you are a heel and you have a wound on your heel, then i have no idea what time does for you in that case)
im still thinking that they may have someone on the inside that knows that there is huge news about a deal that is about to be released and that ECRY is legitimately going to skyrocket
that would certainly qualify as rewriting the rules of a promo
and it could leave a lot of shorters in bad shape depending on how it all plays out
yes, you are correct, TGRO shot up to .60s then spent a week around .50 with 3 days of declines down to .45 before starting its 6 day climb to $1.60
then it fell to $1 and took 4 days to go back up to $1.40
then the bottom fell out and it went down to .20s
but over the following 6 days it went back up to the .70s
finally it began a slow slide with one more run a few months later
ECRY feels like it is on the verge of the major run that will take it well over $1
from the start of the promo TGRO took 9 days to begin its major run
i believe we are on our 10th day with ECRY but there is a 1/2 day in there for the holiday so im thinking any min this is going to start to blast off
i really feel like the eod is key here in order to build momentum that plays out in all healthy green days next week... if this is stuck in a holding pattern or slides at eod there i believe there is a growing interest in the 'fake' aps resurrection... if this doesnt finish strong a lot of funds could get diverted to them come monday mng if that turns out to be the day they release their pick... but if this is running hard not many will jump ship for aps
personally im a bit speculative on the 'new' aps but in the past they were king, if ECRY runs hard stocktips will remain the new king, we shall see
i think one of the reasons stocktips had confidence and some credibility exists for ECRY to actually be one of their biggest pics was the high volume that is saw the past 2 days
once again if we use TGRO as the comparable, you will find that the volume here is much higher, even todays slow start appears to be more than when TGRO began its first big run
volume has to be the best indicator of confidence, however, it is a double edge sword since higher volume of buys means that there are that many more shares that will be dumped when it falls... its like a spring winding up, the more tension it builds up the greater the force when it is let lose
i believe they want to raise the pps before the eod in order to start next week strong but my crystal ball seems to need new batteries and i just cant seem to find the battery compartment on it to change them
the first dip came just before the 'big' run
then 2 after
it also makes you wonder if this is all 'by design'
lets face it, these promos are orchestrated or manipulated as it may better be described
either way, there is a need to get the weak hands out of the picture in order to build a strong run
perhaps seeking alpha and stocktips are one in the same?
or at the very least remotely utilized?
there is a lot going on with a promo like this with a number of agendas... they need to bring the volume, and work the pps in a way that allows them to sell 'their' shares and to borrow their short shares, a lot of psychology to move the masses in the direction of 'believing' and putting money into this.
im sure it probably exists somewhere but it would be great to see a video on the mechanics of what is going on behind the scenes of a pump and dump... much more that simply picking a ticker and sending out some mass emails and hoping for the best, its a second by second orchestra performing in the subway with the adding and subtracting of musicians and instruments all while they dodge random trains, crowds, muggers and the fuzz... quite a lot to conduct, controlled chaos, and sitting back watching it from your computer screen you can not begin to know the hysteria taking place, you just hear the music when the pps goes up and garbled noise as it goes down
as i proof read this im beginning to wonder what they put in my coffee this morning lol
keep in mind that TGRO wasnt exactly a 'smooth ride'
it had 3 significant dips
each had huge bounces, the first was the one that took it over $1.5
but the 2 that followed had 200-300% bounces
if TGRO would have kept running and not seen the 2 selloffs after the high you have to wonder how high it could have gone, perhaps ECRY can avoid the dips and keep climbing past $2?
just a thought based on your epiphany
from the chart it looks like 6 days. each day it multiplied gains
that was a fun ride
they did a good job setting up that run by clearing out all the faint of heart (most bailed on the seeking alpha warning) and that helped drive it up up and away
not sure if everyone "onboard" is along for the ride on this one or not but if the majority is set on holding out for $2 we could see the same "parabolic" chart as TGRO
its all about the volume and the mindset of everyone thats in this one, if people hold while volume continues then it will be the "perfect storm" (wonder how many statlerisms i can get in here) and it should see $1.50 + just like TGRO
looks like the seeking alpha warning on TGRO caused a 2 day slide from the .50s down to the .40s but then the massive run took it to 1.50s+!
TGRO was epic bc it had 2 hearty bounces that each had 200-300% gains
sure feels like deja vu with ECRY
stocktips mentioned TGRO, if this does what TGRO did it pulled back 60% then went on a 300% rampage bounce
ECRY has just cut the weak hands to setup for a solid run
300% would put this over $1
btw if i remember correctly it was seeking alpha that caused that pullback for TGRO too (almost seems orchestrated to cut the trigger happy in order to setup for a harder run)
ive been waiting for one of their picks to actually be a legit company that closes a deal during the pump... imagine what would happen if they release news and it takes off and never crashes, how many shorts will need to change their shorts (literally) lol
Is TWYF serious undervalued at $3.50 or am i missing something?
Perhaps my dd is wrong but i believe they had 90,000,000 shares
then did a 1-100 r/s
so thats 900,000 shares
They have $157,000,000 on the books
that alone equals $174 pps
(157,000,000 / 900,000 = 174.45)
im not finding any substantial liabilities, $300K
how is this not over $100 a share???
either i am doing something wrong or this is seriously undervalued at $3.50
i agree, after looking over their past pics it seems to be all about the volume... last friday my feed was showing what appears to be a false reading, it showed that the daily volume was exceeding the previous daily volume, that obviously wasnt true.
as i said on friday, the trigger point is when the daily volume exceeds the previous days volume, once this condition is met its off to the races.
btw, the half day on friday really shouldnt count so yesterdays volume is still below last wednesdays
today seems to be on track to beat out yesterday so i believe tomorrow will be the start of the move up with a string of 3-4 days of serious moves upward
if the volume exceeds 6mill this could very well break $1
(40% gain yesterday on 3mill)
ECRY is just starting to get good!
knock down that wall at .34 and its .40 bound
TWYF looks like a gem... should be at $5 today and could easily see $10 soon
do the math on this one, undervalued? great find
no worries, good news is that ECRY is moving up! .323 hod so far... going to be a blastoff soon!!
otc reporting issue, no/partial data
i believe the market closes at 1pm today
the daily volume has already exceeded the previous trading days daily volume so the trigger has been met
with this said, and from past promos, it usually means that there will be very little chance to get in at any lower levels... it usually goes up from here, slowly for a few days and then when 'they' stop dumping shares it runs hard
if we see a solid run before 1pm today monday could open with a nice gap up to recover and exceed the opening day of the promo... and should be in the 40s on monday
of course this is all contingent upon the majority of current bagholders holding out for the big gains and not bailing at break even and the shorters holding out for much higher entry points which could fuel the run fire instead of putting it out
so far it looks like it is setting up well to make for a very happy holiday
as i mentioned the other day, typically with his promos, once you see the daily volume exceed the previous days daily volume, that is the trigger point (excluding the pgfy mess of course)
it appears that today is on track to do this
once the trigger occurs the pps climbs a bit for a few days and then it starts a string of days of major moves upward...
from there its anyones guess as to when the bottom falls out but it usually seems to be after 3-5 big gainer days
sometimes it falls and bounces well for a second run and other times it just fades to pre promo levels
the wild card here is the holiday, this introduces a variable that could completely change the 'typical' lose pattern that these follow
imo, this is a legit company that has sent out a pr that disassociates them from the promo which is good bc unless there is reason to believe otherwise it is more difficult for the sec to punish them with a halt (not saying it cant happen, just saying that they did the right cya to make it much less likely unlike pgfy where they practically begged for a halt in their pr)
stocktips picks are typically promoed for 3-4 weeks, so as long as emails keep going out this could very well take off next week to reach $1 levels... the key indicator again is volume, the volume will show the amount of confidence behind this pick, todays volume so far is a great sign.