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Mm's doing their stuff, huff and puff blowing our house down.
My life is more important than spending time here trying to save people from themselves.
If people aren't smart enough to see the obvious, let them fall down the hole.
What happened to pension recovery after a 90 per cent retreat from the reversal?
The sheik is the company pumper of none sense
I think mark is brooklyn13 not sure but very likely.
Mark, you have no conscience or human decency. Your life after reflection will be filled with added torment. You wasted your life chasing a bad investment, wasted others money trying to save what?
Morgan Stanley taught you nothing about business. You are an F student of the business world. Sell what you have and buy a popcorn stand. You will enjoy cash flow plus sales higher than SF.
Please let that be me
Agree
This is a great day. Everyone has finally caught on.
WAtch the money, the only positive money goes to management and for what; absolutely nothing.
They could be sitting in a deli eating a corned beef sandwich and be just as productive.
I regret the day and the people who conned me into this.
Mark can go on and on about blank rome and someday he will be right. In the meantime he doesn't stop the bleeding diluting even that outcome.
Mark is a liar, thief, cheat, bum in my opinion.
Mark go ahead and sue me for being honest. I would spend whatever it takes to put you away.
Its one thing to buy and anther to sell.
Has liquidity been adequate?
Company is raising money every day now. Look csti, vndm are on the ask along with vnfm every day.
100 per cent dilution already with another hundred every thirty days.
Company had a nice day raising cash.
Better watch out for telling the truth about Mark being an out and out masterful manipulator liar extrodinar. He will put his attorneys to work on you for libal, slander, defamation of character et all.,
Mark is a schmuck period. I'm growing weary trying to protect people from themselves.
Just remember, this is a penny stock, don't expect much or should I say, don't expect anything.
Look at the history of pr's, use of equity to fund everything from cigars to drum and bugle cor.
Look at the history of the co and try to justify investing anything .
Money raise today with more dilution.
Mark,
Very personal now.
Need anyone say more.
I'm more fortunate than the rest of you. Mark wants to sue me for slander and defamation for my posts. At least I have that going for me which is nice.
Can you imagine what a slander case would bring- a trophy for certain.
Unfortunately for shareholders; mark would dilute just to pay for that farce.
As Mark once said to me. Sf is a penny stock, would you call that investing, its not aapl.
Look at the money and where it goes. Dilution takes away value into the pockets of the operators. This is the sixth year of the same.
Why bother. Pension, no idea what your agenda is-- perhaps hair of the dog that bit you. Makes no sense.
I used to buy hoping for a rally to dell into just like Mark but every time i tried to sell Mark was ahead of me.
Left holding the bag.
Yes i do but he has no ammo. Look at the history at his history bilked so much money from investors.
I would cherish the time in court or any public forum to review his history. As a matter of fact based on your prompting, i will contact sec attorneys right now for their opinions.
My comments are from a jaundiced eye based on my experiences. Oft times these pennies have posters promoting or the owners themselves promote.
It is not illegal for a shareholder to promote or use their own money to hire a promoter. This is done all the time to create volume for owners to sell into.
Pension knows of what i speak for he is doing his job well.
Unfortunately with sf there is nothing of substance to promote except blue sky. Its been this way since the beginning with no change except continued dilution and reversals.
This is a penny stock not a dream to get rich quick. Not going to happen, what Do they have in current net worth or liquidity.
If they had a viable idea, product, market, potential, distribution, users, value of any kind that would have surfaced years ago.
Kay is a savvy stock manipulator and promoter but not either honorable or honest. He will take your piggy bank and children's too for his own personal use.
It is just that manipulation nothing else. You must admit they are good at doing so. There can't be one civilian left in this disgusting pos.
not wasting anymore of my time hete.
Nothing but b as in b s as in s.
The only ones getting paid are the operators using equity for a pay check.
Holy pockets guys, vndm and csti are showing today.
Not a good day for retail. Going lower unless some civilian can buy up 500 k shares. Plus its a double hit with the dilution.
Of course not. Buy something you can use not this.
Or you may have some pleasure in burning your money.
Pension, you are the most optimistic of people.
This will be the second reverse of sf by the same officers.
Insanity is thinking things will be different under the same circumstances. There is no hope for current owners.
After split stock will go down at least 50 per cent, always have always will. News, what news could possibly move this highly diluted piece of nothing?
Do not lose sight of the holdings of the secured debt holders.
Trade someday perhaps but this is no investment. I heard more than i care to hear all b as in b, s as in s.
A liar is a liar is a liar, this guy is living well not great but never hungry, lost his house, car, jewelry and all. Still vacations on common share holders dilution. Has a monthly income, t and e account, expenses just about everything through the company you finance.
He is a proven liar cares nothing about anyone but his family and self. These pennies are generally always under capitalized but reversing twice is more than enough. I worked with a crooked market manipulator once. He was good, very good but none of us dopes knew. This guy tells you he is a schmuck by his lies and people stay for more.
Sec doesn't have to wake up. You can complain directly and they will nvestigate.
Civilians sell in even numbers. MM's use odds to let other MM's know inventory. I see 4 billion to be dumped.
I really think there is more dilution going on whether authorized or not. The source may be promoters being paid.
Here, here.
How big s your gut? Legal may have some support but not products.
How many authorized?
Not aware of an announced reversal. What will the ratio be? How many shares will be left to trade.
Tell me about the rs, not aware this is coming. What is the ratio or how many shares will be trading after the split.
Level 2 shows 130,000,000 but again i say there ate at the very least 700 million remaining in the current dilution. Vert is sitting alone with 500 mill but csti just backed off to make level two look better. If csti is included there may be a billion coming to market.
Anyone notice vert and csti on the ask? I suspect another 700 million to be sold today; more dilution ad nauseum.
Just devastated by the continued dilution plus issuance of class b.
Why?
I find having csti around at this point very impending.
Looks like more dilution by about 500 million-- who will be willing to burn their money?
Checking to see if I'm still being blocked from posting.
All I have ever tautered has been the continued devaluation through absurd share dilution. Nothing personal just facts that can't be denied.
Sunnvale
I can understand being excited of buying in at the perceived bottom but. When the reversal comes the stock will trade a minimum of 50 per cent below these levels.
With daily dilution the ratio also increases making the devaluation ever greater. Thus it is likely we will see the stock at 20 to 30 per cent f this level.
Example: reverse to 200 to one or .02 more likely 500 to one to . 05.
Stock will implode to .02 . Your dollar is now worth .30.
It is difficult yo make money under these conditions. This is even if there is good news.
Bell,
Watch and see and then get back to me with "oh I see".
There is no substance to the volume they show just a coded message. You will a 100 mill exchange but their indicated volume changes not.
All of this makes my brain shut down, see vert with 500 mill or more and csti with 300 mill or more. God can only save us.
Looks increasingly bad for us. When or will this ever end.
Made a bad guess of the volume.
Notice csti, vndm and vert are still eith is for another quarter.