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For the group of yes sayers let's try new thing try to answer the question of tomorrow now (why we did not get paid?
I think bk shadow was the honest poster that many people didn't like including me. honest people not necessarily tell what you want to hear while some keep lead you on nowhere....
Can we just seek professional answer From professional law firm that can tell us what to expect or not expect Just for the right to know? without any farther action
He ask (Why)why did my cusip numbers dissapeared from my account, ?? We we find some records somewhere for them..but the question is why they dissapeared?? In the first place
Yes but what supposed to happened.. vs the reality
CBA09 Sunday, 01/14/18 03:41:16 PM
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Ref: CBA09, if safe harbor rules protect the assets to pre-bankruptcy ownership then its distribution should not apply to POR7. Does that mean escrow markers are moot? Will all Wamu shareholders receive a distribution including the non-releasing ones? Thanks in advance for your input. I have been wondering about this for some time.
Comment:
Liquidation of assets involves two distinct assets:
1) Property of the Bankruptcy Estate - (Por7 applies).
2) Non-Property of the Bankruptcy Estate - Safe Harbor Assets ( regular bankruptcy code procedures / priority apply).
While the above two are distinct in nature "ALL" residual interest will go to Escrow Markers. So, no, not moot. Escrow Markers are the legacy shareholders. Thereby, have final legal standing and in turn sole contractual rights / title in residual interest.
Ownership Chain -
WMI owns the assets of WMI and in turn has legal title to all the assets of it's subsidiaries. Shareholders of WMI have legal title to all the assets of WMI. All assets that end up in WMI thru it's subsidiaries are thereby assets that WMI shareholders have legal contractual rights.
Por7, thru its declarations, have addressed the distribution of liquidated Bankruptcy Estate Assets. All residual interest of estate assets will go to Escrow Markers per the 75 % / 25 % allocation.
Since our Safe Harbor Assets are outside the bankruptcy estate, those captured within SPE/Trusts will follow each respective Pooling & Service Agreement (PSA) provisions. Generally, it's Parent that receives cash flows of residuals. Note, SPE# 1 create the SPE# 2 /Trusts, SPE 1 are many times direct subsidiaries of the Parent. And, SPE # 1's have a great deal of involvement in residual interest of SPE # 2 / Trusts.
In a solvent entity shareholders cannot force a distribution. A Corporation, thru it's board, has to declare a distribution of it's profit before shareholders are to receive any distribution in the form of dividends.
PSA are compelling and indivisible - only one end stop - Escrow Markers.
quote ....large distributions will be in order,((((( if)))) there are any! Of course
Look like coop moving forward without us old escrow holders it ran up very good after removing escrow ..
when we alost at $50 a share they will do forward stock split 50 to 1 so the stock will be $1 dollar and will until year 2041 to go back to $50 and then on more split hhhhhhhhhh go coop go coop
Next Steps;
The FDIC is now paying the interest owed to WMI, not JPM once JPM paid the FDIC around June.
Plan 6 510(b) to Class 22.
41.6 to be closed with final Payment and FDIC is also released.
GSA is to be completed with payment to WMI.
Plan 6 RE/DCR(DOF) of $20.77B plus interest 75/25%
Plus; NOL Carryforward.
Retained Assets; "affiliates of the debtor".
ABS/RMBS.
Non-debtor Subs.
:) thank you for the information
quote [ Current COOP Position, outweighs any misunderstood thoughts of a segregated "legacy holder" carve out' ...
withheld interest earnings and DTC ESC Cusips are for releasing legacy' ... per Cusip'] doesn't make since because if legacy holder sold his shares how he can still earn interest on something he doesn't own ?whoever bought those shares will earn interest too ?
At this late stage in the game IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN .YOU DON'T KNOW IF ANY coming back
My bottom line .assets AND interest owed to the escrow..and the escrow only not coop. mr coop can not and will not move forward without addressing the (escrow markers) only not coop ..or I promise you and them this case will be open all over again with real professional they how to get to the bottom of it..sorry but nice try tho
I think there it is clear evidence of frud .here it is pinpoint they allowed the escrow to be exchanged to new company what is now coop without and before reasonably assets reflection and transformation so the shareholders (escrow) will be denied a true value for there escrow ..jail time waiting for your friends ..marke it down
Question with yes or no answer many have only escrow they sold coop are they getting anything YES OR NO? Anyone? and I think many need to
get straight
Some here claim the aya she is/was the hold up and start attacking her 24/7 crying & whining.they got very nervous that other follow and support her and whole dirty lundy will come out ...
Lol. I think if anyone sold the coop shares that received. will NOT get any recovery on escrow..please no moor going around the Bush
when?
Wrong again The escrow no longer to be consider as investment the minute they took the bank down It is a legal case (court Judge lawyers) right ?Just we kept in the dark?as for coop yes it is investment as any other..NOW I have other thing to more important to do yes by the way I have many connections to get this thing public on national tv and Facebook group and you friends will be so famous trust on that one..lol
attention every one darkB4dawn is one of them read go back his posts things self explanatory-- Wednesday, 09/22/21 06:07:50 PM
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~ nobody is required to follow anyone. Everyone is welcome to do all of their own investigation and anything written can be ignored. Maybe the Vietnam Vet, infantry story, analysis, referrals to SEC filings, advising all to watch their six....is all part of an elaborate plan by an insider to take what is owed (in your minds) to you by a crafty , double dealing, conniver Mc-Jiver... But you all have choices everyday when you wake up. From A's to Z's...all day long. There was plenty of money to be made, being made currently, and will be made...take responsibility for your own actions. You don't like his Moxy. Your choice. Just sayin...~
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DarkB4Dawn Saturday, 09/25/21 02:19:47 PM
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Nothin' from nothin' leaves something
and COOPs somethin' believe with me
Nothin' from nothin' leaves something'
and that somethin' is paying me
I'm not tryin' to be your hero
But those zero's are impressing me.
I'm not tryin' to be your highness
But the days of minus , are long gone you see.
Nothin' from nothin' leaves something
and COOPs somethin' believe with me
Don't you remember AZ told ya
He's a soldier, in the war on poverty.
Have a good Saturday! Stay safe COOPers.
And many posters all they post just one thing phrase Az is right..many people say follow the smartest guy In the room az yes he is . The hedge yes they are smart too. but the question is did we follow them or they lead us to believe that we do? The last car in the train it's easy disconnected from the rest of the train and left in no where??? One funy thing when he say he has revelation or promise that he for helping us hallelujah..hhhhj
you have to be prepare real good we have no one on our side they got the system the lawyers and AZcowboy working together lol ..as for me iam taking az advise and i will wait until coop get to $500 or 2041 by then I will be only 102 years young buck
Coop is the tell & know what you own .came from the Bod & insiders..
Correct. There is thin but clear line between escrow & coop he been trying to erase lately .I read the post every day no one complained about coop.no one complained about making or not making money from coop ..we talked about f&r for escrow..now question for any one they talk about interst .my Basic view you only get interest on Principle assets that you own right? So where&what assets? Unless ( tricky part)since the interest start counting on 2012 the year of exchange but that counting will end on the day you sell your coop shares that we got in 2012? So is it the interst calculation will be different for every one? Start in 2012 and end on whatever day you sell? Is that why the talk about the interest only ??any one gave his views on that?
Wonder if escrow holder sell his shares let's say 2013 will get interest for one year and if you sell 2014 you get 2 year of interest. And so on they will try to see if it will fly be aware..
They probably read this board and post here as well,IMO.
..that by it self big red and rotten flag if they doing thing right they will not worry about what is on the message board..iam sure they read & post everything from A to Z
they do read & try to intimidate the messageboard i believe Mr. John Wayne is one of them
Even if that's true it does not tell me how much coming back it could be just Few cents. even bk shadow predict there is something like 0.07cent coming back.....
We all wait together at the same time until 2041
for both
quote ..Thanks Judge Walrath and Thanks KKR.... sorry I can not thank Judge Walrath if she gave them the power/ability to not pay us back until 2041 ...
Can we get a consultation from DR.A they already have good knowledge with case at least they tell us when & what to expect ? What is the best action if any to know where we stand ?just a thought
I truly believe that AZ a good man ..but but but that doesn't mean he is on your side
Yes you need to wait to $50 By then he would figure something out to feed the Message board hhhhhhhhhh
look & sounds to me for longest time like BULLSHITS
If you and everybody else read
the documents for years how comes that is the 1st time we hear about the $50 bucks or waiting until 2041 ??????
After all I came to realize that hot meat is right
no. One whining about coop and you know that it's very clear the issues is the escrow..remember don't mix the apple and the orange...
Quote Anyway, ... My COOP Holdings are all Free ?, and WORTH a lot ... So, In My Opinion ? ... while I wait for the company to USE' the Original Debt Collateral ?, and their need to use my ESC Cusips ? ... I'm good to go, watching "COOP"s pps rise ... GO COOP AZ ...sound like someone work for the pod /coop..
Ok bro. I have faith in your expertise you and az .lg so iam going back to zzzzzzzzz..hhhh