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So does that mean my speculation is off?
When you say "we" what do you mean? If you want to make money from an upcoming lawsuit, do you steer people to a particular law firm, honest of course, LOL. Then of course you would get a big cut(commission)for all your efforts. Just speculating. What are your thoughts? I'm sure you are here for the benefit of all us shareholders, bless your heart.
I believe you are a serious believer kiss, infact your statement is sooo close to Joe's and he is a believer. It is amazing how close your belief is to Joes, just amazing. I guess it doesn't matter what your take is there is always someone out there that has similar views. Crazy world I guess, LOL!
http://www.forbes.com/sites/igorgreenwald/2013/01/08/suing-the-us-would-kill-aig/
This article helps explain what damage could occur if Fannie and freddie sue gov.
Lawsuit is for $25 Billion. Let's take a guess how much the lawyer will get.
Anybody here have an experience with lawyers? I have
Joe don't you think the reason you do not see shareholders filing suit, is because of the slime factor of class action suits. There are a few suits that I was involved with in 2000 after internet bubble. And guess what, the lawyers made more on the suits then the shareholders, much more. I think people are getting wise to that fact and they are not pursuing class actions as much. Watch out when Lawyers are trying to help you. The way things are going, I feel the people will be repaid in about 2 years. The commons will be diluted, but relisted. This will allow them to start trading and would probably head up from this point of 30 cents. But I am more optimistic on the preferreds, they will in my opinion get back to full value and their dividends would start up again. I for one am glad that all profits are getting swept towards the billions that are owed. This should get us whole quicker.
Woondedeagle. When you say Ha " even I'm thinking about it"
What exactly do you mean? I think Las vegas is too hot and is making your blood boil. You should move to a nice cold state like New Hampshire, it will cool you down and help you live a long life. Your blood pressure will go down and you will learn to smile again. As I go through the valley ............
These is from IHUB's handbook
Spam:
Spam that overlaps off-topic are posts containing content promoting other sites, stock-related or not.
So please stop promoting your site.
And my only agreement with Woondeagle is on his remark that there is a cell of multiple id groups. These groups try to take the board over and then try to direct people to their site.
I think I am older then Taint and I have seen it all, so your group can keep calling me names and filling the board with your drama, I will not respond to you.
I want to inform preferred holders, most of them are retirees, beware of spammers. In my 7 decades on earth I have not encountered a benevolent spammer. Greed makes people act in very unneighborly ways. They play on people's dreams and fears, and they promise to get them to the promise land. But in the end they are only trying to advance their own self-interests.
The ironic part in all this is they cry censorship and other keywords when someone calls them out. But if you get to their site, read their terms of agreement. They will not let you post what you want, unless you agree with them.
No Taint, the only banner I notice is from Joe. But I think you knew that.
I have a question to the moderators. Isn't posting with a banner in your post a form of Spamming? I expect this on the Yahoo boards, but not here. Spamming is very annoying, I think we would all agree on that point. It takes away from serious discussions if someone and their co-horts ( associates ) keep trying to direct the group to an outside entity. And yes these people will always sound like they are trying to help. But in the end they are after their own self-interest. So please, us lurkers would like to view the great comments on this board without being inundated with SPAM.
More Spam. Plus you were spewing nonsense way before August 17th. Do people here really want someone like this speaking on OUR behalf? Hey Euro is it quite or quiet?
Jemiller, Thanks. It seems to me its more productive and smart to predict the outcome here, rather than trying to direct the message for one's self interest. Cheers!
OK Ace, Euro has been polite. I never said he is not polite. He probably opens the door for his wife, says hi to little kids on the street, Donates his time to a charity, is lead singer of the church choir, etc etc. I do not get your point. Sorry that I do not seem as polite as you or Euro or Woode, or Joe or you. Please forgive me. But my main points ( minus the grammer errors ) still stand. If you want a recap, just reread my posts. May you and everyone here have a blessed day and may all your wishes come true. Mine is for less manipulation and for my preferreds to go through the roof. Take care of yourself, and peace to all.
Euro to wooden's rescue, surprise. Thanks for the correction on the word then and than. I am not as smart as you, you seem to no much mor then (than ) I . Oh look I did it again. Is it no or know, I forget, what a pesky word. You and Joe and woode can post all you want here. I plan on staying here also, I like it here. But I do wish Joe wood (would?)please stop spamming a website, I will call you on it everytime, as my friends in Texas would say "I guarntee". Please respond and tell me all my mistakes, I would like very much to have a handle on the english language as well as u. Preferreds will rule in 2013, look at them run. I haven't checked the commons, how are they doing?
What a surprise Woondeagle stands by Joe. Let me guess Euro will chime in on his 100% backing of Joe as well. Joe can vent all he wants, but I for one do NOT want him to represent my interest. Reading the post from the more respected Preferred holders on this board, I think they DO NOT want Joe to represent them either. Why has Joe been pushing soooo hard from day one? Joe for the last time (I Hope) the preferrs and the commons are not in the same boat. Maybe you should start a different board and moderate it to your hearts content, allow only your opinion to be seen and I am sure woondeeagle and euro will post nice things about you and your plan. If anyone questions you or suspects you of anything , you can zap their reply and not let that reply on YOUR board. How hard is that? The Prefers will be treated different then commons. I think commons will be diluted tremondously when warrants come into play. And I feel the man (woman) on the street feels the same way. Billions were not repaid, and the gov still stated they made profit. Maybe Joe you should read the blog from ebano, you two have similar views on the commons, maybe he will join your group.
Merry christmas to all, especially my favorite poster, Joe euro eagle teach. May all your wishes come true. This board is read by many, and they can smell BS when they see it. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year
I disagree 100% with your post. Fannie or Freddie preferreds have the same interest, they will probably be treated the same by the government. The commons will be treated differently than the preferreds. Some with commons will write false info about preferreds, this will be done to scare individuals into joining a movement that really doesn't have the preferreds in their best interest. Isn't starting any legal action premature. the situation is fluid at the moment, and some of the ideas being looked at like the Millstein plan would benefit us in my opinion. So lets say there is a class-action started, who will win in the end. Oooh Oooh Mr. Carter I know, The LAWYERS, NOT US.
Don't lose it eagle. If it is not true, ignore it. Because once someone protests strongly, people will think there might be some truth to the allegations. Where there is smoke.......
This board is getting more informative as we go along, I thank you guys for that. I do remember the mental case that was always putting preferreds down, very forcefully. That person was very weak mentally. It did not matter what the alias name was, because that was just an alias. But I can say for sure the person typing out his non coherent thoughts was a VERY weak minded person. How could he be so against the preferreds, they have more going for them than the commons. I think the commons are toast. On another subject why would the preferred shareholders get behind someone that is not being rational with his comments on preferreds vs commons. I assume the people on here are rooting for the preferreds to succeed. Call me paranoid but why should we get together with someone that wants to rally us, but he really believes the preferreds are worth less than the worthless commons?
Bingo. Lilly Tomlin. Enjoy your Sunday everyone.
This is a bit off topic. But does anyone remember? One ringadingy, 2 ringadingy, 3 ringadingy, 4 ringadingy. Boy this is like shooting ducks in barrel.
Why are you an absentee on FB europegoodold?
You praise this guy in public forum and in people's private boxes.
On another subject there seems to be a stench of desperation in quite a few aliases on this board. I won't state which ones, because it seems obvious. On another subject the Ebano character had quite a few aliases, and he had a sense of desperation when people questioned his delusional thoughts. I think there are some people here that just have too much time on their hands and have had phychotic breakdowns in believing their own delusions of grandeur. And on another topic the Ebano guy, why did he just disappear, or did he? That guy wrote and wrote and wrote long winded nonsense, and now poof he is gone. But of course this is just my most humble opinion and could be 100% wrong, maybe I have too much time on my hands. I look forward in reading the private mail I will be getting. I have a bet with the company president here on who will rear their ugly head(s). Medusa come and get me.
You are the one that sounds angry, have a nice day.
No not avatar, mostly his long winded sales pitch of himself. He is also very defensive when challenged, does that remind you of anyone. Plus his game playing with his different characters, I think he is cybil's older brother. Enough on this guy. I will just ignore him and his different characters.
How is the research coming?
I do not feel comfortable about Joe being assistant moderator. I would like to request that he be replaced. Something about this guy that makes me uneasy