I've been pretty happy with Scottrade..no complaints

Damn not only have I been getting killed by this stock but Scottrade charges a $20 conversion fee for the reverse split. WTF THAT COULDA BOUGHT ME 200000 shares pre split. What a piece of crap this whole thing is

My scottrade shares just converted today. I'm still taking a beating on this stock but shares are worth more than double what they were pre split. We'll see what the future holds. I'll be happy with a reasonable loss at this point. Need .07 to break even. .04 would be a minor miracle. Need some news or anything. There hasn't been any performance news " or lack of". In seems like a year. It's all made up anyway, so they need to make some more crap up so we can move. This thing higher.

What does level 2 look like?

If there is 842 million shares outstanding how can the bid be at 22 billion? And
the ask be at 900 million?

Didn't he write in An email last month that he was looking for further funding

Hope so. On another note he obviously missed his filing today. What are the repercussions for that

I hope so but realistically doesn't s good promo cost 100k or better you know he isn't gonna find that. Also isn't he's restricted too selling a few million shares which equates to a few thousand bucks?

Isnt it possile David said the hell with Nsav, all his debts are paid, he made almost a million dollars through third party investments. What incentive.does he.have to do anything more. I realize asher and other conversion companies may wanna get their money back if they haven't already. Ie buying at .0002 @ selling at .0003 or higher. All David can duo now is sell a few shares . I hope I'm wrong and im in at .0045 for 2 plus million. I've got 9k into this thing for past year and half. Hoping for something positive, but have been hoping for 18 months and losing Faith.

Payed Promo? Does anyone know if any of these alerts are paid promos or are they just free alerts? It would be wise to pump this before the new year and avoid possible new Capital Gains rates go into effect. ( depending on the fiscal cliff mess) fingers crossed i need. 0115 for even

Interesting...Im not a huge fan of APS BUT they were supposed to come out with their next pick today. It got delayed to later in the week? Our 8k is delayed along with any other news. A lot of the stocks they promote are stagnant for some time and then the day before or day of pump news and other comp related info gets released. And of course the stock gets walked up. Just a theory if this gets walked up to. 005 or higher we may be positioned right. Somethings happening. Im not sure we want Aps or not Im just looking at trends

I'm not sure of exact numbers but lets say they get their shares at a 42% discount of lowest trading price of .0011 that puts them in at .00064. If they pump this thing ten times that share price that means they only need 6 tenths .006 of a penny to go ten fold on their shares. That completely sux for everyone one this board because six tenths of a penny isn't even close to where we need to be and that's assuming there will be that much volume to move those shares. I'm a pretty optimistic person but this scenario is not good. think outside the box what the hell does Saltrelli care, he has made a ton of money through loans and stock pump sales in the past to be living comfortably with no risk. He has ridden this thing out for the last year to to and been collecting checks the whole time for basically creating a bullsh$$t website and sending some bogus Prs. I'm not trying to bash this company cause I'm in for almost 10k, but like everyone else I held way too long and now I'm afraid to dump anymore into this company to avg down. I'm currently at .0145 with little hope of breaking even. I would love to see multiple pennies realistically .01 would be a minor miracle with the latest manipulation going on.

I HOPE THIS ISNT THE CASE. OF BUYING AT. 0025 AND SELLING THE PUT SHARES FOR A DOUBLE UP EVERY FEW DAYS. THE ONLY WAY THIS THING GAINS ANY TRACTION IS WITH A PR WITH SUBSTANCE AND REAL NUMBERS. OTHERWISE WERE STUCK IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MANIPULATION. IM SERIOUSLY HOPING THIS THING GAINS SOME INTEREST OR WERE SCREWED. LIKE RUSS JUST SAID ALL THESE PUTS GET COVERED WITH A PROFIT. WHERES THE INCENTIVE? DAVID MAYBE HAPPY PULLING 75-100k A YEAR OUT IF THIS THING WITH NK EFFORT ON HIS PART. IM HOPING FOR A MINOR MIRACLE WOULD BE HAPPY AT. 02WITH SOME VOLUME SO WE CAN FLIP OUR SHARES

Can southridge decline any of the PUTS if not i guess thats a good thing as they are huge bagholders and are gonna need a huge run to move the.amount of shares they have. They have more shares then CEN 1

Can he legally report that as income? I think in theory all money gained from "puts" are supposed to be used and reinvested in the company. I agree that hes probably using it to pay himself or other loans. Hopefully something will turn for the better..Soon

Was that large trade definately a put, and if so how do you know for certain. 2nd question is, isn't David the one that requests the "put" kind of like FG says.using the company ATM further diluting the company. Does Southridge have any say at all if and when shares get put.

Pps

Good point i didnt factor out the non trading days. Either way i dont see hows he's running that $20 million dry....Just hoping like everyone else that something starts here soon that positively effects the possession

If he keeps putting $3000 a day it would take approx 33 days to hit approx $100,000 and 333 days to hit one million.. that 20 million wouldnt be gone for over 15 years. I dont see how that line gets exhausted unless pps goes way.up..

You are probably right there. That would set this up for a never ending game of
006 down to. 003 and back and forth till they exhaust their $20 mil. You just cant rule out cen i cant see anyone taking almost million dollar hit on the chin without putting up some kind of fighy

Another question. Saltrelli doing these $3000 puts at the end of the day are completely counterproductive to any share price gain and he actually is helping supress the pps. Wouldntit be smarter to build share price and then take a little here and there. It almost seems like he's just picking up the scraps that are left and couldnt give a crap about the.company. I really hope this isn't the case, as im in deep as well.

Got it, once i reread the post it makes sense. Thanx for the reply

I dont have level two, am i reading correct that two trades were made at. 64 and .96 or was that. 0064 and. 0096. Either way thats a far stretch from. 0032. What s the purpose of that, and how does that signal manipulation?

How long does southridge have to hold the "put" shares that they acquired before they can sell them back?

How long does southridge have to hold the "put" shares that they acquired before they can sell them back?

Yes, but he' s the one that generates PR's which if done correctly can help the share price. ..kind of like everyone is hoping, if he puts out a PR with good numbers we should go up

Anybody sent any messages to David?...I know most of his replies are probably BS but has anybody emailed him to see if he releasing any updates or news soon? Everyone seems to be guessing when news is gonna come out.. Any reply would help the endless guess game. hoping for some Real news on numbers or projected numbers. Something tangible to move this thing. Im not greedy here just hoping to get back to .025-.03.

Isn't Family Coop supposed to start membership drive today.? I figured they might release something on that.

Doesn't Saltrelli doing large "puts" conflIct with the thought of the company doing a "pump". If he knows a pump is coming wouldn't he want the pps as high as possible prepump knowing that will drive the share price even higher. him doing Puts and the end of the day driving down the price logically doesn't make sense. A company starting a pump at .05 instead of .005 is going to have a much larger end result. A 1000% on .05 is 5o cents a share as opposed to 5 cents a share with a .005 start. It would seem he would hold off on cashing in $5000 worth of stock for a few days when he could cash in his 2 million shares after the pump for one million dollars if it went 1000%instead of $100,000. That causes concern, and I am in no way bashing this company, I hope we go to $1 but something doesn't seem right. If there is a pump coming common knowledge would be to drive the price up regardless not suppress it for a 5-10 thousand dollar gain when theres so much more potential if a pump happens.

Doesn't Salteelli doing large "puts" confl

FAMILY GUY I'm not sure how "puts" work. What advantage does Saltrelli gain by doing this at the end of the day or at all for that reason, knowing that it kills the PPS?

I've been reading this board for over a year and I am currently in 430k at. 021. I have a plausible theory on the recent price manipulation/drop. As most people know APS' last pick GWBU was basically a bust and they stated they were gonna close shop if the share price didn't hit$2 well it never did and their still up. My theory is that the next pump is already paid for. So APS could feasibally be buying say 250000 shares at say. 006 and sell them ack at a slightly lower price thus dropping the share price. If they do this 5-6 times a day at you get the big volumes we've been having with little no money loss. If the pump happens they bring the shares from. 005 up to say. .10 and they can brag their pick gained 2000%. Its simple math and a possible scenario. Who else would sell at a loss like this and had the shares unless you just keep recycling the same order