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"Griffin's Tantrum" is not going to do that for you. We need a collective effort as a Class ACtion Lawsuit. ARe you willing to participate? Then gather up followers and convinced AZ to help. If you get something going count me in!!
Good Luck!!
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"Bring nothing but delays, you got to be kidding. After 11 years of delay, this still has no end in sight. I say bring on the tantrums. Let’s force them to start explaining themselves ASAP."
OHHHH JEEEEERRYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!, Listen It is all really simple you just have to abide by AZ's rules or "Commandments"
1. No, I will never be issued an LTI
2. No there is no 75/25 to the end
3. Know what you own
4. ***Watch the New Company, Coop is the Tell***
5. Watch your Six
6. Don't trust the trust
7. Don't be a wishful thinker
Do that and you will be fine, just be patient...
Thanks for all you do AZ..
Well I don't think the WMILT has ever been relevant to us. I agree with AZ and it also makes sense. Lets be honest why are we all here? You guys are at least hoping for Big returns for various reasons. My reason is Big Money just don't give up on money and consider their investment lost. That is not how these people operate. But how can you honestly expect a Bankrupt company to show up Billions of $ after Bankruptcy???? LOL Distribute the money away from public eye??. That is why Im down with AZ's assessment.
I guess BIG Money is enforcing payment for them and for us
And remember FDIC has not been released yet!!
Also if there is Big Money to be found there must be a lot of people watching the pot!!
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We don't have a Representative to speak of.....So, Who is forcing FDIC, JPM, etc etc to pay Escrows through DTC..???. As WMILT is not Relevant now???.....Hmmmm
OHHHHHHHH JEERRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!! The "DTC Tantrum" is too hard for u to comprehend. There is basically no money in WMILT and I do not want distribution scraps. The "Hidden Sausage" will be distributed via DTC.
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So explain to us this tantrum, why do you need a DTC when you already have WMILT? What is the purpose of the liquidation trust? Is it just a tantrum?
Quote: "special paying agent to assist with subsequent distributions as in the DTC?
Makes sense as they and Kosturos would qualify."
==> AZ is Right <== ==> Ron is Right <==
DTCC's subsidiary, The Depository Trust Company (DTC), established in 1973, was created to reduce costs and provide clearing and settlement efficiencies by immobilizing securities and making "book-entry" changes to ownership of the securities.
DTCC's Settlement Services, offered through DTC, reduce cost and risk and boost efficiencies in the marketplace by providing end-of-day net settlement obligations for clients resulting from trading activity in equities, debt and money market instruments. Asset Servicing, also offered through DTC, offers a broad range of services for underwriting, custody, corporate actions, dividend, proxy and reorganization services, as well as the electronic registration and transfer of securities.
AGAIN ==> AZ is Right <== ==> Ron is Right <==
She is delaying the process and wasting resources..
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"Rather than being grateful to what she is doing, you choose to worship other tantrum experts."
NO, it is so that it can rhyme with "tantrum"..
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"You would think they would at least spell her name right..."
I cannot wait to see "Griffins Tantrum" response from Hosen..
http://quantumonline.com/search.cfm?tickersymbol=WAHUQ*&sopt=symbol
You can call Investor Relations Jennifer Valdez at 206-461-2192 and find out for sure LOL!!
How?, we cannot vote against them they have the majority of votes. They can vote themselves to have higher pay if they want to...
No, I have never been opposed to anyone who wants to challenge the bankruptcy process on a well organized class action lawsuit. In fact I would have love to see that happening. However it seems to me we are finally at the end of the process and we have waited a long time to see PIERS paid off. Now that we are here don't you think is a little too late in the game to do that?? I'm not trashing Alice but there are things that to me raise a red flag. One being seeking extra compensation for herself. I do not think she is looking out for you. To me a group collective effort like class action lawsuit would have been more meaningful but then again what do I know?? I'm not a lawyer nor understand their jargon...
The carnage will continue till bankruptcy close...
Understood AZ, thanks for all you do.. I wish she would of asked for help from knowledgeable people like you before submitting her ideas to the court..
IMO the plan was set in motion long ago, NOT even "Griffin's Tantrum" will interfere with that plan. If they wanted to delay the process for some other reason they would have delayed it without having to use "Griffin's Tantrum". They have to close the bankruptcy sooner or later and we are close to next in the waterfall, noone can change that...
You have to put yourself in AZ's shoes maybe there is some personal quarrel between them for other motives we do not know. I personally do not care about his "Griffins Tantrum" rant other than he is most likely right about his observations. To me his comments are still helpful and on point.
I hope "Griffins Tantrum" has not cost me to wait even one more day for me to get retribution and most of all my cash or share distribution. I want this over and do not need another wannabe Hero to screw with the distribution timeline, we have waited long enough...
A long time ago I proposed it was possible for Big Money to screw us. They have already diluted us 1:12. As the price keeps going down is possible we could get diluted again and leave us with a few hundred shares while Big Money scoops up millions of shares. They have effectively zero out equity without much effort. Thanks to the court we have received our fair and reasonable treatment. There better be a substantial COOP share distribution for escrow holders or a CASH distribution from the many trusts otherwise this cannot be the fair and reasonble WalRat was talking about or Is It???
Thanks Lodas for the explanation makes sense market makers are EVIL...
Quote: Already started writing my book, named it “Duh! Lost bank”
That's a boring title why don't you call it "My long wasted time experiences on the WMIH public message board"
Quote:Pure MM fake prop up of the shell SCAM why is this even trading
Ask Jay he seems to have a better handle of this situation...
and nerves of steel..
Quote: Griffin did a very poor job with her homework...
Maybe she was too busy thinking about her fictitius monetary settlement and did not have time to formulate her case and research appropriately.
Now why would Rosie,kosturos and Mary need so much time to distribute a couple hundred shares of POOP to a handful of shareholders??
Unless there is more than meets the eye!!
Thanks Ron!!
Ron how did you arrived at the $9 figure. Could you show us the math or how many shares are to be distributed in your opinion..
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LG, LG Has Referenced 75% Valuation,
regarding COOP. I think it's from a 10-K.
9/12 = .75, or 75%.
Also, the TPS Exchange-Event means that TPS are to receive WMI preferred shares. That hasn't happened yet.
IMO, TPS are due COOP Preferred shares.
Preferred; One old for one new.
Commons; One for one at $9.00. Therefore 75 cents on the Dollar.
Thanks AZ, I appreciate it. Let's hope this is for our advantage as it is for them...
AZ how far down do you think these demons will take POOP pps for enrichment? and shouldn't the SEC be looking out for this kind of behavior??
Nice find Royal, I wish that was for us. Keep the faith!!
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Being a minon of Jamie Dimon you should tell Jamie to release our shares in the JPM treasury and stop hiding our value. 830,000,0000 shares at $105
"As of the date of this prospectus, we are authorized to issue up to 9,000,000,000 shares of common stock. As of December 31, 2018, we had 4,104,933,895 shares of common stock issued (excluding 829,167,674 shares held in treasury)."
http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FilingID=13349689&RcvdDate=4/8/2019&CoName=JPMORGAN%20CHASE%20%26%20CO&FormType=S-3/A&View=html
LMAO! "Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in!!" Classic
This whole thing is a blood bath, it tells you how greedy these guys are, their greediness have no boundaries. If someone can load the train at $1 and they can get away with it they will do it. I have no choice but to wait, not worth it for me to sell now after waiting for 10 years. At this point is "ALL or NOTHING for me"...
No, I agree with costs and fees but she is also asking for extra compensation not that she will neccessarily get it..
WHHHHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTT, no way that would happen!!
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As I believe this is a an opportunity to replace the trustee with Alice. He’s left himself way too open and the possibility of removing him will come up.
Looks like Alice wants some extra compensation for herself...
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Conclusions:
b)Awarding Griffin's costs and fees associated with bringing the objection
c)Granting Griffin such other and further relief as is just and proper under the circumstances.
Wonder if the Court will allow her some money to go away then we all should start making objections LOL!!
She posted her info in case someone wants to contact her and ask her questions or maybe she will ignore you.
griffincounselpc@earthlink.net
1-646-337-3577
Noone knows, LOL is not up to AZ everyone is on the same boat, we have to wait...
LOL, AZ I have not got time to read it since Im at work. Thanks for your input. Just curious to see were this goes and what Mary and Hosen will do about it.
Thank you Mordicai!!
Anyone has a link for the Eighty third Omnibus Objection??
Documents Requested:
1. Produce any written agreement executed by WMI trust settling the third Omnibus Objection.
2. Produce any and all documents, including without limitation, any correspondence writings, and communications related to the settlement of the third Omnibus Objection.
3. Produce any and all documents that you rely upon to settling the third Omnibus Objection.
Pro hac vice (English: /pro? hæk 'vi?t?e?/), Latin: "for this occasion" or "for this event" (literally, "for this turn"),[1] is a legal term usually referring to a practice in common law jurisdictions, whereby a lawyer who has not been admitted to practice in a certain jurisdiction is allowed to participate in a particular case in that jurisdiction.[2] Although pro hac vice admission is available in every American jurisdiction,[3] civil law jurisdictions generally have much stricter rules for multi-jurisdictional practice.[4]
Thanks Royal, Alice is asking for a lot LOL and got Mary to sign and grant the motion. Finally Rosen gets to move his azz out of that comfy chair he is on and earn his money for once... Kosturos Hosen and Mastando might get pissed off at this one. #@%!@ them if they cannot take a joke...