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Thanks for the input Alvie. During my two day visit a few weeks back I had the chance to observe a few kryron demonstration. Some I had heard about but never seen live. I must say they where all mind blowing and some defy physics understanding, at least mine.
The thing with Kryron it can be applied almost to anything. I had seen a few demos three years back but it looks like John has enhanced or improved the process of some of the applications. I personally believe all application can be capitalized on since they all exceed, out perform the current industries best.
With that said "I think" the application that might take Bork to the Big Boy's league one day, with the "B" figure. I would have to say it would be the transmission lines. Although, the corrosion test "based on the acid testing" was very impressive and out performed the other metal litterly to dust. Therefore,with all your respect I will reiterate and also add some of these to your list.
Wire Industry: High Power Transmission Lines - we are producing the first samples of Kryron High Voltage Transmission Line. Management believes that Kryron allows us to make a transmission line that may be stronger than steel with conductivity ratings that will lower the electromotive force, also called EMF, to near-zero levels, making this transmission line the world's the first "no-core", "no-mixed-metal" high voltage line.
Oil and Gas Industry: Pipe and Plate: Because Kryron has shown to be stable in the extremely corrosive environments, we plan to begin marketing 6 inch pipe and 1 inch plate to the offshore oil and platform industry.
Bolts and Clamps: These are some of the most common areas of failure in oil platforms and need to be constantly checked. We plan to begin marketing to both the marine and land based drilling platforms.
Marine Transport: Marine Plate: Management believes Kryron is superior in hardness, corrosion resistance, and puncture resistance to materials currently being used. We plan to market Kryron to the marine transport industry for use in container manufacturing, hull manufacturing, and deck manufacturing.
Port Cranes; Plate, Wheels, Rail, and I-Beams and Dock: Thick plate
Railroad: Rails and Wheels: We anticipate that Kryron's conductive properties may allow for the dissipation of friction and radiated heat to be quickly dissipated. We expect that Kryron rails would have less deformation in extreme environmental conditions, and may have a longer life than any current rail manufactured. Also, with a hardness rating higher than steel and greater conductivity, a rail line built with Kryron wheels and rail may last a lifetime.
Building Construction: We believe that Kryronizing may be beneficial for construction materials such as electric cable, I-Beams, pipe, shielding, and bolts used in the construction of a high rise buildings. In addition, stainless steel is a common façade for high rise buildings. Because of its lifetime resistance to corrosion, we believe that a Kryron facade may be made incredibly thin and provide the building with many years of a beautiful façade that can be continually polished to a brilliant shine and never corrode.
Please note. I have no reason to lie about my observation or on what Kryron is capable of doing. Here is a little background about myself. I been federal employee for 18 years and hold a professional position in management. I got acquainted with Kryron about three years back and was amazed by its potential. Yes, I have interest in this company since I am very well invested;although, I would never want to miss lead anyone nor would I want anyone to miss lead me. Word of wisdom, Invest only what you could afford to lose but do some due diligence so you don't have lose it.
Hopefully the positive news keep on coming.
"The past cannot be changed, forgotten, edited or erased... It can only be accepted."
Noguts,
Ok, thanks of the inside.
Why are we still holding shares? We should sell?
I am liquidating tomorrow!
I knew he couldn't turn water in wine or walk on water.
Noguts!
Well there are many interesting things going on with Bork chad.
I think you might already know that based on some of your finding.
Noguts
Merthy, I think you are on to something. I believe Bork is aware they have to bring their financials current in order to proceed. Hopefully they can get this squared soon, I believe that would bring some credibility back to the unknown shareholders.
Nogut!
How come I couldn't think of that, Everything has been a big illusion an ochastration just for me. The new building, the new application I've seen, I should have also known John can't walk on water. I feel like a fool, John Bourque got me! Hahahaha, I'm sorry but I had to laugh at that.
Noguts
There is more than just the wire, if only one of the new or old patents/inventions/ innovation made by Bork works we will be good. I would prefer that all are successful but all we need is one and we would be golden!
Thanks for the forecast Mike keep it coming. You keep it up you will take the Rock position on this board, LOL.
Noguts!
That clipping in particular is not my personal video. I Actually got that armor clipping from a friend who was at demo. He edit it for whatever personal reasons, that is why it's kind of fuzzy. I will see if it is possible for him to send me or release a longer or clearer version.
Noguts!
This is about a months ago. How do you know there is nothing going on with body armor. Have you ever seen any armor plate bounce of the floor like that. I wonder what this might be, there is more to it but this is all I have for now.
Not sure who Kryron1 is but he is on the money, that is the location and is not just a testing site.
NoGuts!
There where a few things stated on this board a few weeks back lets recap.
1. John Bork personal issues will be resolved, that was Checked.
2. There is a new state of the art facility in Phoenix, Check.
3. John Is in the Lab with other scientist they are perfecting, improving and creating new application "new patents", check.
4. I will not retrain myself from posting until Bork annoucess any updates, check.
There are some things still unchecked, but I will be waiting patiently.
Lets be patient and see what John and the crew have in-store "Kryron" is a neccesity not a luxury.
Noguts
On the way Down right after the run up.
Noguts.
I will see if I can get a hold of him when I'm out in phoenix at the end of the month.
But Lets roll play a little on your perception, lets say he issues himself half of that new stock. Mind you I have no idea if he did, or didn't .
So 250,000,000 shares how does he dump all these shares without driving the stock down? Lets say he is a great magician like everyone things he is, after all I hear he turn water into wine. So lets say he manages to dump all his shares at an average of .008 when its all said end done since I assume the stock will drop below .oo8 from all that flooding, I guess. So John will make whole $1,200,00 by the time his taxed etc. So do you really think that is John's and Bork Mission. I seen plenty of Ponzi scams, corporate scams, fraudulent scams, etc. I was raised in the street but have worked my way in the corporate world. I am not a fool, seen it all in the street as well as in the corporate world. But I guess I have not seen Johnny's show which is very illusional like no other from what I hear, LMAO! I guess I will have to pay to see, after all I am already committed.
With that said I am not hear to make you believe anything obviously you have never seen firsthand what kryron can do, nor have you held it. I think I would be in the same boat as you and others who are in doubt. If the technology can make John and Bork industry money, which I believe it can why settle only for $1-$2 million, instead a few Billions, at least thats my reasoning.
I am not saying I know what is going with Bork, I don't. I do and have from time to time visited Bork I did do some due diligence prior to getting into this mess. Everything stated is based on what I perceive to be facts, All based on the pieces that I've gathered, and seen. In the 15 years of investing I have never put all my eggs in one basket. I did so with Bork because I believe and have seen what kryron can do, in many sectors
I will restrain myself from posting until we get some update from the company hopefully soon.
As you would say,
No guts!
"Give me liberty or give me death"I think that's major weight of John shoulder and Bork, it's like breathing fresh air!. I think we have good things to come now, slowly but surely!
nogutsnoglory
I'm not here to protect John nor do I think he has looked out to the best interest of his shareholders. All I am simply going on is my instincts and the vibe I've gotten from him the few times we have met. Everybody has their own personal opinion that does not necessarily mean they are right, sometimes we think we know everything;therefore, start jumping into conclusions and start making assumption. In another words I'm not sure why Bork industries has issued all those new shares and without respect nor do you, what I do know the lab they currently have and the scientists, workers, etc. that are currently working for him or assiting him don't work for free, bill don't get paid by themselves and material and other unknown factors don't self operate without some kind funding. Do I agree with the shares being issued no! But by the same token I would rather have new issued shares then a bankrupt company. Point being there is something there which is "kryron" Which is keeping the company afloat. With a bankrupt company we would have absolutely nothing.
If you think it's a pony show, does it make sense to do it at the same park, No! Why not take it to another park or why not try Different attraction for people to see. What I am try to say is I truly don't feel John tried to screw me or any of the share holders over sometimes things just don't work out how we expect. So what do you do, quit Or try again? many famous successful entrepreneurs and scientist have failed many times before finally getting it right and becoming successful. Does that mean each time failed they meant to screw their shareholders or partners over? No!
I can't guarantee this is what happened with Bork, what I do know there were a lot a variables that played into a very bad predicament two-three years ago. If you have enough pieces and you put them together you tend to get a clearer picture, thus giving you a better understanding. I just hope I have put all the pieces in the right place and I am seeing things for what they are.
In regard to the Jets and viper, that story is partially true I know most of the actual facts but regardless lets play the the devils advocate and go with it. How many people are not guilty of living beyond their means, spending money that they don't actually yet have(most of America). I think it is safe to say we all make mistakes and hopefully most of us have learned from them, if that was the case with John (which I know , partially is not) I hope he too has learned from it.
If you have lost on your investment I hope you still own your shares, at least you might have a shot getting something back.
Being alive is better then being dead, at least for me.
Nogutsnoglory
Rock, I just realized I am guilty of stealing your line, just as guilty of not proof reading and checking my grammar, lol!
candyman,I agree with you to a certain extent. I myself am pissed my friends and family are pissed, just like many other people! My initial investment was on (kryron) the technology not Bork the company. I always knew it would be a long term investment but I never figured I would lose "almost everything" at least on paper. The problem was not the technology, I believe it was John's personal issue along with many bad decision made by prior management and John but that is in the past. Sometimes we need to put the past behind us in order for us to move forward. As for me I have every share still I guess I figure I rather lose it all than sell it because I doubted my initial decision. Some of my friends and family followed my advise and still have their shares others figured I have poor judgment and decided to sell, we shall see.
Seclusion from our day to day life is sometimes needed to reflect and appreciate what we truly have in life and want we want out life. Not that I wish any type unwanted seclusion on anyone but everything happens for a reason, maybe John's going away to college temporally might have been a positive thing, thus giving him time to reflect. With that said I think we all make mistakes in life, its in our nature; although, the most important thing is what we do with those experiences, that is what truly defines us.
" positive things happen to positive people, even if it is in mysterious ways"
Stay positive,
Hopefully we will hear something soon.
Nogutsnoglory
If they were to get a strong contract whithin the next few months I would have to say you are on the Money Lecheman!
The source that I have which is and has always has been a reliable first hand up front source stated there is an agreement already between John and the State. All they have to do now is go through the proceedings next week from what I understand.
After his personal issues are put in the past I believe Bork will validate many questions and concerns for Investor who are in doubt. It's a new regime who know the company history but also who know how to get things moving.
In-regards to the new facility in phoenix all I can say is I was blown away by the little bit that I saw, just as I was blown away when I saw what Kryron could do a few years back .. In-regards to John I now him personally I think most people under estimate and miss understand him because they don't know him.. The guy is down to earth but most importantly for the investors he knows how to create Kryron. He also new what was coming two years ago and protected the shareholders believe it or not. You might say how, well it's a long story, and as you already know a doggy dog world out there.. Lets just say he is always few steps ahead not sure if his a chess player but I imagine he be good at it.
Lets just see what the next few weeks and the next few months bring us.
This is not in anyway intend to pump the stock. Hopefully it helps those potential Investors looking from the outside in, to see a little bit on what the company is about.
Nogutsnoglory..
I will go out on a limb and say we hit .25 or .50 by end of august.
nogutsnoglory
I seen the new state of the art facility a month back, John is not working alone he has actual scientist helping him advance, perfect and create new applications.
1. John's personal issues will be resolved next week.
Nogutsnoglory
This is intersting I wonder what investor might want so many shares.
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I agree, Bork is not done yet!
Nogutsnoglory :)
Bigdog, question how is Sean involved with this/your company, why does your name ring a bell in one one off our conversations. I was there once having a conversation with Sean when you called him and were talking about future business. He also showed me one of the lighter plates he had been working on, very impressive. But I thought it would be wrong if taken else where.
I think there more to it then what you are stating. Just because you may change some of the components does not mean that the main ingredients are not being used/stolen while employed with Bork thus creating infringement.
I'm happy for your progress but this kind progress leaves the shareholder even worse since we may now be losing a possible product.
What a mess!
KB I have tried, all she said was she couldn't talk about anything over the phone and ignore all my simple question I had about BI. I told her I would fly out and meet her to name the time and date, I informed her all I wanted was simple answers for us share holders, " I told her I wanted no insider info cause I know there is nothing " She stated she didn't have time, I told her legal action was imminent by us shareholders but she just said she had to go and was busy; even-though, it sound it as if she was home by the back ground noise. A responsible leader giving a responsible answer lol. Email me, rubenlemus@charter.net I can give you her number , if you have any important info or any documented info you can share with me please do so I can forward it to the proper person gathering legal information. As much as I want to post her number, I think its unethical; even though, they have smallest clue of what that word means. Good luck with that, only way for us share holder to see redemption is through legal action which has been initiated, even if it might only mean seeing all and further perpetrators behind bars for their fraud and for not protecting the minority share holder as required. We have a good 60-70 % of seeing that happen from what I been told who knows how long it will take but I'm willing to wait, I have more time then money now, lol.
Armor is a huge money maker, but we will see the real money is in electrical this has been known from day one.
More updates to come soon.
There is more to the the story gotmilk and we should have some more info hopefully within the next week or two.
As you will see the picture will get clearer as more bigger players will fall into the puzzle including a CEO with a history and a resume of making things happen. " nothing personal against Sean, his a great and intellitual person but I believe the board of directors and BI was needing someone with experience and knowledge of taking companies to another level specially when you have such universal product where there is plenty of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ to be made , we shall see" ,
This is just the beginning of finally a unique product "Kryron" being brought to the world with the right individuals backing it and guiding it to success.
"There are few individuals as myself who have seen or have witness what kryron can do ;although, they say perception is everything" We won't need to perceive anymore we will finally have an actual and factual testing that has have been on going to prove this material is real and no fraud.
Also there is a reason why such large capital was warranted hopefully it will be disclosed and finalized within the next two-three months. Someone here posted GE was still interested a few months back he must work for GE.
Also I believe but haven't confirmed the DTC issue should get resolved. We have an entire new crew who will have nothing todo with past regime. All they have todo is rectify and address pass issues to reaffirm that BI has cleaned house and gotten there books and issues straight. I will go out on a Lim and say we should be fully disclosed by November if not sooner this year.
There a lot instore for BI, and these high profile and connected board of director know it if not they would be wasting their time.
Now lets cross our fingers and hope we don't get anymore unnessary road blocks....
I take it you have a bird in the building somewhere, based on what you are saying? Also in all fairness to JB who screwed most of it up. I think the prior board of directors and advisers were a bunch of jokers who didn't have it in them to tell like it is, then again I'm just speculating. I don't really know what transpired behind closed doors.
Bowser I know you been around for as long I can remember, and like many of us hoping for some positive news, sales, contracts. Yes your right nothing to get excited about to date and its very frustrating. Im not sure about Sean testing connection but I do know JB somehow manage to screw up the PW testing. I dont want to go into to details for confidential reasons, a friend who a met through here was some how involved in the process so im not sure if he want's me elaborate on the details. Hopefully Sean can mend that screw up but
here is what I do know. I will try to tell it how I see it.
Pros
1. The company is not a scam.
2. We have a unique product that nobody in the world has.
3. Kryron has unlimited application it can be used in.
4. We have a new CEO, who is sharp, looking out for share holders, and very hungry.
5. We have new BOD's with excellent backgrounds experience.
6. We have a reinvented armor that is 25% lighter, cheaper to produce, while still offering the same protection.
7. They are cleaning up the mess JB made, books, etc.
8. They are working on getting actual third party testing that will validate Kryron with the big boys (no mama papa shops)
9. Mending, communicating, with old possible clients/customers that JB screwed up.
10. Working on being fully reporting.
11. Working on getting the DTC removed.
12. Most importantly right now, working on getting some capital to keep moving.
Cons
1. No capital to excel the process.
2. The company seems like a scam since we been stalled in the station for quite sometime.
3. We have no third party testing to validate some of numerous application kryron can be used in.
4. DTC is very hard to remove odds are against us but not impossible.
5.CEO may lack some experience (he will have no choice but prevail)
6. JB left a mess it will take time to get it cleaned up, ( it wont happen over night)
7. Some potential customer might have a bad taste in there mouth after dealing with JB.
8. Testing and certification take time and lots of money.
9. We need capital.
10. We need more capital.
11. We need some more capital.
12. We need 1,9,10,11 again.
Bork is and has been in quicksand, if it moves and manages to get out it "watch out". But if moves without making process it will just end up digging itself deeper and deeper into the abyss. I personally think it has the resources around it to get out, it just a matter of being extremely careful so it dont slip back in.
Look at most successful business most have a rough start and normally lose tons of money for the first few years.
I don't have much inside information now. My assements is based on logical bussiness principals, history, and expectations of Kryron, the CEO, and board of directors. If you add the Kryron, experience ,knowledge, and the hunger to survive, I think its a good chemistry for success.
Excuse my typos and grammar its very hard to type a long message like yhis out of the Iphone.
RL
KZ some people talk not because they know, but because they can, lol. I know this to be true from a reliable source that use to work in BI. JB was offered nine figures but refused it, $300,000,000 to be exact. I talk to this individual again after he was released from Bork management. He said the following, that offer was not a rumor it was true, he added that he truly believed in the technology but not in Johns leadership and ability as a CEO and business man. He said JB had a sense almost as an art of burning down bridges. I think the guy is cool but I never had to do business with him. Guess he turns savage if business deal don't go his way. He also stated JB would not let kryron go for such pennies, would you? Kryron has to many avenues its just a matter of getting all these different test don to show the world where Bork stands, the problem has been and continues to be capital.
Yeah JB, knew what his baby could do but had no evidence to support it for the big boys other than the armor that speaks for itself. I would assume these type of technical test take up lots of money and time that Bork currently does not have. I truly believe there is a solution I just hope that the new BOD and Sean the puppet, lol. " come here little puppet" sounds familiar (blood in blood out movie) finds it before its to late. Joking ATL, keep your head up for us shareholders but most importantly for yourself. Us long time investors are still here not because we need too, but because we believe in the unbelievable potential this material will have someday, which means lots and lots of $$$$$$$$$$$$$$.
" If we are going to make it we got to do it right"
RL
I bet kryron is five times better and lighter, go figure!
A national publicity stunt like these would help, I know easier said than done.
Notice the center part where it was shot seems to be thicker/reinforced.
http://news.yahoo.com/minn-school-district-gets-bulletproof-whiteboards-210428590.html
Thanks for clarifying this, The Post Office screwed up somehow by missed delivering them, possibly. Bork is paying the price, it happens, rarely but I guess it does.
That is bad customer service "IF" true, when starting off in business, even when having a business already established, customer service is a priority even if it means taking a loss. I wonder how true it maybe, a little exaggerating I hope. Why are they shipping a valuable item without insuring it or without delivery confirmation, weird. Also I cant imagine how a plate would get damaged. I shot the plates before I don't see them getting damaged especially during shipping. I mean, I seen fragile items get damage but not something solid. I am a manager for the Post Office and have been for 10 years. I been a manager for shipping and receiving for company called utility trailer. Truthfully I really don't see this happening at least not both scenarios, and to the same shipping person (police department), back to back, very weird! This is not good if in fact true but I don't see both scenario to be true maybe, one or the other I hope. Big boxes don't normally get lost or miss delivered not likely.
If true I'm pretty sure Sean has fixed it or will fix once he catches wind of it....
This is in my neighborhood,Vegas ex COO. Everyone that knows me knows I'm a gambler. A gambler who does not take a gamble unless he has a good chance of winning; odds, stats, and factors have to be in my favor. A man I met once in vegas told me I was not much of a gambler I was more of a probability bettor I guess he was right. I'm liking my pick with Bork again just like I did on May 13, 2008.
True story and somewhat related to Bork on May 13, 2008 I drove to vegas to put a single bet of $25k for the New Orleans Hornets to win their fifth game at home against San Antonio Spurs in the playoffs (series was 3-1 New Orleans. The Casino (South Point) after calling there casino general manager would only approve $20k for that game not sure why. From what I remember the Hornets were slight favorite -2.5 points, my research had lead me to believe I had about a 67% chance of them covering and winning the game.
By the first half the hornets where losing by 3 and I was not liking my bet I was second guesting my stats and myself much like BORK six-nine months back. While I was waiting for the second half to start I started to reanalyze, recrunch my numbers. I went once again over my probabilities, most people would have considered an early lost and walked away just as they have with Bork.. I instead walked to the counter and asked if they would take a second half bet for $5k (the manager must have though I was stupid) he agreed. In the second half New Orleans out-scored the Spurs by 25 points not only did they cover -2.5 but won by 22 points or so.
Point being, I been second guessing myself like I have in the past and Im still liking my odds. walking over to the counter. Its second half and I need more money to buy more shares. Bork has been losing the first half and it has not been playing how I expected them too but I have a big feeling things are about to change. There are to many options, potential, and application that will need (kryron), it's a necessity, and it will be a necessity globally. Just as plastic and other metals are.
I'm all in.
Slick I been waiting for this show to start for two year along with all my fellow shareholders, my popcorn is a little stale. I will get a fresh popocorn and stay put in my front row seat. Contracts, sales would resolve all these issues, problems, including my headache, while releaving all shareholder pain and anger.
R.L
NGNG.
Slick that's cause you didn't ask the right question will BORK go to $10? answer yes! although it didn't tell me when 2099, LOL. I hope not that long LMAO, to much fun on the outside crying in the inside lol.
As wild willy put it without no sales or contracts, we are not going anywhere. Unless they get a letter of intent from a major company or a big player comes into the picture. $1 plus in the next few months? we would need a solid contract or seven figure sales in my opinion. I myself keep on buying it’s a once a life time opportunity, a Grand slam and it will be game over! A big if, but most great products have had their share of issue before taking off. $1 plus in next few months I think it’s possible with the right chemistry but then again we been waiting for this chemistry and all we gotten is bad explosions that are very dangerous. Wish I had better info for you but thats just my opinion.
I have been around for two years waiting for this stock to take off and have heard this at least 30 times if not more. These are old news my friend, I hate to burst your bubble and mine but if at least a fifth of what your saying were true this stock would not be at .05-.06 cents and the volume would not be as dry as it has been for the past few weeks, for the exception of yesterday, here and there when the stock take a major percentage hit. The reason why I say these is there are always leaks on both sides and those leaks would be reflected on the price and volume. I will say Kryron has the potential to be a multi-billion dollar industry I seen what it could do first hand thats why I'm invested. I'm not bashing the company but just being realistic and have not seen anything to indicate what your stating. I hope I'm wrong but the past has shown us its just rumors we need actual proof now. I hate to say it but there is no credibility anymore on this company;although, it looks as if they are starting to get some key player on board that can help change that image.
RL
Yes I have a reliable source that tells me she did not sell at least last quarter. It is a reliable source but wont say whom it was from. I just wanted to verify it if possible, thanks for the info.
RL
I have general question. I know Form 144 states that such individual will propose a sale but it does not mean there required to sell; therefore, is it possible such individuals just exercise there option in case they do want to make a sale when the stock moves? Also normally when there is a sale from form 144 is share holders notified?
It is important to note that many "insider" trading reporting agencies list filings of Form 144 by directors and officers, but do not include Form 144 filings by unaffiliated shareholders.
It is also important to note that the filing of a Form 144 does not obligate the filer to sell any or all of the shares listed. The filer has 90 days in which to make the transaction, or portion of it. If the 90 days passes without a transaction, a new Form 144 may be filed.
From what I understand Sandy has sold zero last quarter but yet registered Form 144. I need clarification where I can find the actual sales of the individual who file Form 144.
Thank you in advance,
RL
JBtoothhead.
I agree with everything you have to say, I know John personally. I like the guy as a friend as an inventor but not as a business man he needs help and hopefully he will get it. Hopefully he will realize that not only is he damaging himself but his family; in retrospective, I believe and I am almost positive kryron would not have been created if it wasnt for thoose booze or possibly those drugs, who knows. Steve Job once said if it wasn't for LSD apple would not have posibly existed and that is no lie. So either way, sad to say we were damned in one way or another.
There is still more to it, not only eight you will see.
This looks a lot cleaner thanks, Doug. Bowser the problem I hear with Naples7 is they want a big piece of the pie and want to leave us BI with only change, pennies on the dollar; therefore, not very good business for us. John is a great person and inventor although I don't believe he is CEO material and should leave that to the pros. But then again look back at Steve Jobs history who got removed from his own company, his board of director come to FINDOUT Apple would not have survived without him therefore ended up hiring him back. I think JB was scared of just that therefore took action, cause of the back door deals some of his board of directors were making. Not sure whom is to blame John for being arrogant and stuburn at times or his board of directors who try to play a player instead of trying to working it out. In the end everyone got played, in one way or another, us stock holder are left at bat with no one in the field to play with. We need some players to get back in the game.
This is huge, huge news/progress for Bork thanks for the research milk man.