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Re #3465:
I hear ya, Alias.
Just one. If you can get even one of those questions answered, that will be a bonus. I would like answers to all, but for now I'd settle for even one. For now we don't hear anything, . . . . not even "Kiss m.a."
So where are our fearless leaders at present?
a) Cape Coral
b) Vancouver
c) Flown to Acapulco
d) Flown the coop
e) God only knows
Don't like to dampen your hopey-changey mindset here, folks, but until we hear something from someone on the inside, all you're doing is putting more and more lipstick on a pig.
Down to .006 now and I don't see any impetus of forward thrust. So what is your source for this latest round of collective optimism?
If Chetra becomes a millionaire on this clunker, I'll probably become one, too. And when I do I'll buy Suebarth a $6,000 pair of shoes and make Kardashian insanely jealous.
Now both of you hold your breath.
Loyalhound
Re my post #12850:
To the few who critiqued me earlier, when this thing pops its cork I will be happy to eat crow. As for going long, I doubt that many (if any) are longer than I am; I first bought this tub when it was .19, so I'm sitting here with my feet propped. And you'd have to punch the three-year box on your screen to find .19, so I think I qualify as at least a village idiot among my fellow citizenry here.
Loyalhound
- - - And don't ask me what I was thinking back then. Musta had a runaway brain fart.
I'll betcha dollars to donuts (and donuts may be worth more these days) that company insiders haven't lost a dime on this venture. In fact, they've probably made a nice piece of change already while we all sit out here in the tundra blasting one another.
At this point, I firmly believe company execs owe it to us investors to say something, even if it's only . . . . "goodbye."
Whether you still believe in this outfit or not, a CEO simply doesn't follow up on a much ballyhooed nutrition expo with zero communication.
Loyal
Sue,
Your point is valid and well taken, but if this company comes from Neptune, then none of us are living close by.
I'm still considering a little excursion to Cape Coral, but not at this time, because I'm doing the ostrich thing yet. After all, you must realize that I am a charter of member of the International Proscrastinators' Club, and I haven't paid my yearly dues yet (which I plan to do tomorrow . . . or the maybe the day after). Besides, I don't want to blow five bucks on gas (or is it ten now?) and then drive home knowing I took a trip to the other side of nowhere.
Loyalhound [staying in touch]
RSVP
Okay, here's my take; then I'll hush and await anyone's critique, which I'm open to.
I am perplexed, and I'm sure I'm not alone, though few would admit to that.
The cause of this "dip" (it's really been a plummet over the past six days) is a mystery. I can't see it being caused by insider trading, because with all the company has going for it down the line, it wouldn't benefit insiders. On the other hand, stocks in pennyland rarely get shorted by pros. But then, I have to allude once more to the fact that this is alternative energy we're talking about, not one of Obama's solar or windmill pies in the sky that have been going belly up with great regularity. If GESI rolls on the way it could or should, conventional energies are going to take a hit, which is what makes me suspect some hanky panky money circulating from jealous outsiders.
And let's face it; if I'd said six days ago that GESI would go from .058 to just a tad over .02, twenty out of twenty among you would have been LYAO. Not only that, let's not kid each other here. If it rebounds from .027 to .054, a lot of traders are going to double their money, sell, and watch the thing yo-yo over and over, which won't benefit the company one iota.
I don't know the solution, but only a fool would buy, only to get pilfered by the very sellers who told him to do so. And if we don't see a rebound fairly soon, all the low-ball buyers on the cheap are going to end up buying and selling to and from each other, which makes about as much sense as two insurance salesmen sitting across the table peddling insurance to one another.
Loyal
If some of you won't look in the mirror, can't you at least look at the numbers? .0065 would be the lowest close since before Christmas. Fact is, whatever is being written on this hub these days is done out of pure frustration. And venting anger against one another will only exacerbate the problem, which is:
. . . . emanating from somewhere on the inside. No communication from those behind their desks (if there even are any desks) since the expo is very poor stewardship on the part of our company officers.
You hypesters, cool it. Your positives are empty, and the daily numbers prove that. The key lies in the company headquarters, and if headquarters has got its headquarters where its hindquarters oughtta be, we're all toast.
I still think about making the half hour to one hour junket down to Cape Coral, but I just can't bring myself to do it, because I'd leave there flat as a pancake if I wound up peering through a pane of glass into a dark cubicle.
We really need to hear from the execs, not each other.
Loyalhound
This is almost amusing. Almost. While we're all pumping, somebody's dumping. At .025 currently, we're now at the low point of the year thus far. You aware of that? In fact, despite all the pr's, promises, and interviews, GESI hasn't been this low since before Christmas. Perhaps we might give a bit more pause before we continue our "some day" and "future" rhetoric, don't you think? In any event, I still say there's a snake or two in this railroad tie wood pile somewhere, perhaps a big shot banker who put his free stimulus money into conventional energy.
Loyalhound
- - - Holding and still positive, but cautious and questioning.
C_L & other colleagues,
I was wondering because I didn't hear any news from the inside or outside exactly what MILV had done to clear its name. And yes, I agree that the non-DTC tag doesn't just go away. Mistral has to actively comply with stipulations somewhere, and I hadn't seen any mail from our execs concerning what they did.
Simply put, . . . . ain't no "Get out o' jail free" cards in this business.
C_L, lacking evidence to the contrary, I'll take you at your word. I just hope you're right.
Okay, here's one of those "It can't happen here scenarios." Now don't shout me down till you read it all, okay?
Does everyone in North America want to see this kind of venture succeed? Of course not. Big oil, big gas and a few others don't. So here's my far-fetched plot: GESI looks like a real winner in the works, but I'm big oil, and I don't like what I see. So what can I do? I can pull a Soros (sort of) and get me a few hired guns to short the thing. I've got a few million laying around, so I pay these hacks (under the table, of course) to work to lower it's worth. Illegal, for certain, but the legal process is hopelessly slow. And sure, the SEC could police the matter, but they don't have the people on hand to do it, and this company is a small fry anyway. Besides, I'm big oil or a big banker and I pretty much own the SEC, just as I do congress. Money talks, you know. Only a squeeze somewhere down the line can stop me if I do this right.
No way, Jose, you say? Hey, not likely, I admit. Yeah, I know what shorting advocates always claim. Short selling keeps the market honest. Phooey. It bludgeons genuine upstarts like GESI all the time, and does it in the name of free enterprise. Remember, we're still a pink penny and no match for the o&g monstrosities. I still think the Brits and Aussies had it right when they flat out banned shorting altogether years ago. They know what it can do to stability and real progress.
Can't happen? From .058 to .027? Some were sure .04 was the support line. Then the bar was lowered to .03, and we're back in the .02's now. Is that the end of it? Look, I'm still positive in the long run, but not if someone with a sound diabolical plot can do us in in the short run. We want more new blood to invest here, but the chart over the past week is an obvious yellow flag to many.
Okay, I'm done now. Go ahead and shoot.
Loyalhound
P.S. - - - Don't mean to be completely negative, because I'd buy more myself right now, except I'm maxxed out. I just get to where I take nothing for granted anymore.
Is this thing still on the chill list? If so, no one should blow that off as inconsequential, since it affects us all, insiders and investors. We want newbies, right? They're not going to invest in this as long as that yellow flag is staring them in the face. You can't pass any cars as long as there's caution on the speedway. Nope. All anyone can do is go round and round while governing powers clean up the track. Got it? Pass the word.
It's time for everyone to get our heads out of the dirt and face reality. And here's reality: .006 plus or minus and stagnating.
All the plusses and good news on the horizon notwithstanding, from .058 to .037 is not a pretty picture. I've seen a few apparently sound companies go into oblivion over the years courtesy of short people. This drop represents a 38% downswing in one day. Correct me if I'm wrong here, but I think a lot of vultures (if they work it to a fare thee well) can pick up some easy dough by turning this thing into their own personal game of chutes n' ladders. Probably went to the George Soros school of how to make money. With all the positives that have been brought forth, there's no way the support line should have dipped down to even .04, much less sank further from there.
Apprenante,
Maybe they didn't spell it correctly for you. Perhaps they meant to say . . . acquired the rites . . .
. . . as in last rites.
Just conjecture on my part.
Hound
I also have to give Afandor a little room here. Whatever Friedman's vision is, it wouldn't hurt to share at least a few tokens of it with us, seeing that we've all been lending him some of our money. If he's got good stuff in the works, why hide it?
Silence isn't always golden. In fact, in this business it can have a cripple ripple effect.
No fear about the future in this camp. It's just that I don't recall anyone predicting a p&d today. Granted, it won't affect us in the long run; it's just that it raises a yellow flag to some newbies who would have jumped in with both feet, but now are skeptical and unaware that this thing is legit. Methinks this was more than just an inconsequential dip, even when a full rebound and beyond is clearly in the cards.
Just a guesstimate on my part, but if the expo had been a rousing success, or even a moderate one, wouldn't someone on the inside have said something positive to that effect? Or am I overstating the matter here? You'd think the CEO and/or the CFO would at least let us know they're still breathing.
If Anvil's news is accurate, I see no reason why this stock can't stabilize to some degree, despite court snarlups. If people want to learn to fly, the sooner the judge bangs the gavel for adjournment, the sooner Quasar gets off the ground, . . . . again.
Kinda reminds me of the old but accurate saying, "If it weren't for attorneys, we wouldn't need attorneys."
As one who's been buying and holding this baby for nearly two years now, methinks people oughtta get a grip. The company looks too sound for its daily SS and RSI to both go from overbought to way oversold in one hour. As one of you inferred, it seems fairly obvious yet idiotic for GESI to be victimized by a pump and dump. I see no reason why the stock needs a guru with an IQ of 25 to pump it in the first place.
Loyal
Just a general observation here. The largest volume day in SATM/GESI history was 5.9 million on Oct. 11 of last year. We've almost doubled that before 11 o'clock, so someone's obviously paying attention. With the wild fluctuation going on here, what is it? Are short boys running for cover? Or insiders or scaredy cats taking some profits? I have no fix here, but I'm listening.
On the whole, it just goes to show what can happen when communication channels are wide open both inside and out. Quite refreshing to see.
Big123,
Am in full agreement with you. I just hope we don't see a reverse split as a means to fake an uptrend.
SailY.A.O.,
I'm in agreement on principle. Sales and revenue dollars is the bottom line; all the cheerleading at this point is meaningless. As for the glass, I have to confess my attitude here leaves something to be desired, since the glass has looked half empty for months now. Just hoping to hear something positive other than the run-of-the-mill...."Buy! buy! buy!"
Looking for something of substance.
Re: #3369
SailY.A.O., your points are well taken. Moreover, I am further puzzled in that we are two days after the expo, and nary a word from the top dogs about their excursion.
Hope they didn't have to take a Trailways back to Florida.
Re: #3350
SailY.A.O., if there's one thing I'm not about to do with this tub, it's load up on the cheap. However, I wouldn't be surprised that some are. All I know is that something smells raunchy. The expo has come and gone, a few products are out producing "wonderful" results, . . . . and the stock continues to slip. Down to .0074 now and the biggies on the inside are strangely quiet.
But as usual, I suspect someone is milking this thing for nickels and dimes courtesy of someone else's supposed positive outlook. Frankly, I'd be embarrassed to hype this stock unless I were a secret insider.
Fact is, I'm still in, but I'm not about to walk lock-step for MILV or carry water for it.
Suebarth, could this mean that all bets are off and every MILV promise has also been pushed back to mid-June now? They let the air out of the ball for another three months?
Somebody help me here. I'm begining to think we've seen this movie before. Some people enjoy watching re-runs; I am not one of them.
Hound
Somebody whack me over the head with a frying pan or something. Everyone else is all hyped up over what this stock is gonna do when it's in fact just about where it was two months ago.
Should I just shout out loud, "Creep up, GESI, creep up!"?
I was just wondering, since our top dogs on the inside have been so excited about this expo thing. I personally wouldn't get orgasmic about having a table with a bunch of bottles and pamphlets on display surrounded by a slew of other companies with tables and bottles and pamphlets on them, but I suppose some execs do. I also wonder how many other new kids in town will be featuring their wares for the first time.
When you add it all up, I guess that's why I'm reluctant to run around and exclaim something like, "GO, MILV, GO!"
The Boring Hound
Just curious. The expo takes place this Friday through Sunday. What then? The stock shoots up?
Based on what?
I honestly don't know. Beliefs pro or con welcomed.
Hound
Detente, he's right. From about Oct. 20 to Nov. 20 MILV went up and down like the Challenger. A classic P&D. I suspect insiders pocketed more than a boatload for three weeks.
Still, there's time for redemption. Insiders could prove they were in this for someone other than themselves by re-investing their easy money profits back into the company itself. That's what CEO's and CFO's who have any measure of integrity do.
Shysters just take the money and run, re-invent themselves in a new scam elsewhere, and repeat their past. Soon enough we'll see which category these insiders fit into.
Okay, like many, I'm in and I'm in long, but at the risk of raining on our parade, we should face one glaring fact many were sure we wouldn't see, which is that the name change didn't do a bloomin' thing for the numbers as many had predicted. We're even off by nearly 10% after two days.
Proof positive once again that just about the time we think we have even our little corner of the market figured out, the market itself reminds us that we don't really know much at all. Such is life.
FedUp, it's called spin. You make rash statements about products, time lines, shipments; but they're untruths.
Now you gotta cover your tracks, so you make more rash statements. Products don't hit the market by the next time line, so you re-invent yourself with more statements and more promises. They're not kept, either, but long range dates are creeping closer, and you can still fulfill those promises on time . . . . maybe.
That's the way it's been since November. December, January, and February have come and gone with no promises fulfilled. Now it's March, when everything supposedly was going to jell. And we wait. And we wait. And we wait. And the beat goes on.
Fortunately, we haven't heard the word April mentioned yet. Very soon the nutrition fair featuring the mysterious musical chairs booth number.
Let's just hope this supplemental nutrition fair doesn't turn out to be a fractured fairy tale. We need to see for ourselves that this company does for once what it says it will do.
Hey, y'all. I don't like negative postings anymore than anyone else, and I've often been deleted when I try to post something critical. But let's be honest here. The numbers are the bottom line, and so far the 2012 numbers stink. Those you call bashers are merely frustrated.
I like reading positive hype as long as it leads to positive results (which it hasn't thus far). I try to critique without bashing, and, admittedly, sometimes I cross the line. But bashing the bashers is often just fearful way of admitting that this animal still doesn't quite pass the smell test. If the bashers are wrong, let the stock prove them wrong. Shoot, you might be surprised to know that even the bashers themselves hope they're wrong.
Rebuttals welcome.
Hound
With all the ups and downs these past few months, the pluses and minuses, the positives and negatives, the hype and the hiccups, let's just hope this major move on the part of MILV doesn't turn out to be a bowel move. That would be more than embarrassing for insiders and investors alike.
Just a follow-up thought. Many of us don't pay much attention to the Bollinger Bands, but they do tell a story. When current traders jump the gun for piddlin' profits as the stock goes from, say, .007 to .0078 back and forth, the bands will tighten very quickly. And when would-be investors see those tight bands, many say to themselves, "This thing isn't going anywhere."
Why do they say that? Because it isn't. It's just meandering sideways. And when this happens over an extended period (which it has now), those investors see the narrow bands and take their dollars elsewhere.
This is elementary chart stuff, I realize, and it's not meant to insult anyone, but is something to think about. So if you wonder why traders aren't into us the way we think they should be, it's because they look at the BB's, instead of reading our rhetoric.
Rebuttals welcomed.
Hound
Just checked at 10:30. Looks like we're back in business for trading. The board says .042, so somebody must be doing something. Everyone able to access?
Good points, Sunspotter. If those on the inside don't do their part, it can't and won't get done. We traders can't make it all happen; we can only give it boosts when the powers that be do what they need to do.
Any agreement or rebuttal is welcome.
I first bought SATM way back in May of 2010 when it was .19. See how brilliant I was? It tanked shortly thereafter and looked like the classic p&d some of us occasionally fall for (aren't you glad you never did that?). But I held. Back then there was no apparent vision and little pr, so SATM stagnated.
But my point is, with all that's been going on recently: a sound vision, good planning, a product of the future, and excellent communication from the inside, I see no reason why GESI can't reach that .19 mark and go beyond in a relatively short period of time.
I seldom advise anyone to buy a stock on my say so since I'm not much of a cheerleader, but if you're on the fence, this company looks to be as close as there is to a sure thing when you stand it up beside other pinkies. I'd buy more, but all my chips are on the table as of today. You're move, friends. God speed.
Hound
This is for what it's worth. - - - Good news . . . . maybe.
I contacted my broker about MILV in relation to the DTC chill. Indeed, my broker said the company is suspect, but at present I can buy or sell without penalty. So the chill is merely a caution for any investor at this point.
Bear in mind that the DTC can change its mind and add penalties without advanced notice, which is what middleman outfits like to do on occasion. I don't like the DTC anymore than anyone else, but it's there and it's a reality. Anyone who just blows it off as no big deal is giving poor advice, so beware.
Actually, those at the top of MILV are the key here. They're not meeting some SEC guideline somewhere, and as soon as that is rectified, the DTC chill goes away. With the products coming (we suppose), as soon as they perform DD, we'll likely then see a ticker lift-off. So if anyone knows someone on the inside, tell 'em to get on the stick.
Keep the faith.
Hound
Dadgummit, what's keepin' this gold-plated ingot under a nickel? Mostly I'm patient, but once in a while I get a bit antsy. Now let's roll, doggonnit.
Hound