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Shareholder Update Letter on Torbay Website:
http://www.trby.com/
Harley,
I was thinking the same thing when I saw your post! How is life treating you?
Hope all is well for you!
TC
Av8torak,
I for one truly appreciate your dedicating your time, energy, and money to helping this company. I believe there are many, many more investors like me who appreciate your efforts! Most of them have either left this board or just stopped engaging the naysayers! Again, I thank you for your service to our great country! AND I truly appreciate your efforts to help both this company and the investors here!
Warmest Regards,
TC
New and Improved $100 Name-that-Mouse Contest!!!
WhiteSands and I have conferred and jointly decided to enrich his Most Excellent idea! The winner will now receive an even $100!!!!!! You can make it a REALLY nice restaurant, or we could broaden it to something beyond a restaurant. I would like to add the mouse has to actually show up in the marketplace with the name, not just have Tom pick it and say it will be used.
Put your entries on the board, or send to WS in an email. He will compile and send to Tom. Still no limit on the number of entries. (If you have a bunch of entires, send them in ONE email to him puleeeze.)
dp315736@yahoo.com
WS and TC
Oh Yeah SIKY - for quite a while now - Big winner from your reco at .15 or so. Thank you RIG for SIKY!!!!
Can I do a WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE?????
:)
TC
Why would today be the last of the tax loss selling? You use the trade date, not settlement for tax purposes!
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http://taxes.yahoo.com/guide/buystock/lastday.html
What's the last day you can sell your stock and still report the gain or loss in 2004? The answer is December 31, 2004.
Trade Date Controls
When determining what year you sold your stock, the trade date is what matters. This is the day the transaction took place on the stock exchange. If you contact your broker on December 31, you can complete a sale in 2004 if your broker executes the trade that day.
Settlement Date
Stock market trades generally settle a few days after the trade date. This is the day shares and cash actually change hands. But the settlement date doesn't matter for purposes of determining when your sale took place. If your trade date is in 2004 and your settlement date is in 2005, it's a 2004 sale.
H,
Sounds like you need to average down here! :)
Happy Thanksgiving (away from the market)
TC
OT: Just wanted to let all of you who offered up prayers and concern that I and my family are all fine after Rita. As you know, Houston was spared the brunt of the hurricane, but the worst we had was some family without power for a few days. We were truly blessed.
Thank you all,
Tom
Fred, We are in the center of Houston, but thankfully not a flood-prone area! I am most fearful of the tornadoes, which are random and can take apart any building.
I know it is looking gradually better for us, but these monsters can change up to the last minute and we could get it head-on. Regardless, there will be at minimum hundreds of thousands impacted no matter where along the coast it hits.
Thanks,
Tom
Friends,
How about a moratorium on bashing, anti-bashing, etc. and temporarily replace with prayers and concern for your friends who today may be facing life-threatening situations from Hurricane Rita.
Thank you. Signing off soon to hunker down,
TC
If you read the proxy closely Nutmeg only owns 1.3M shares. They have warrants for 21.5M but the majority of those cannot be issued unless the proposal passes. I would not think those warrants would hold voting power, but that is just my opinion.
TC
OT: Barndog and Av8torak,
Thank you to both of you and all the other brave men and women serving our country. Thought I would share an email I just received. I hope it catches on:
"Subject: WEAR RED FRIDAYS
RED FRIDAY
You will soon see a lot of people wearing Red on Fridays. Here's
why.....
The Americans, who support our troops, are the silent majority. We are
not "organized" to reflect who we are, or to reflect what our opinions
are. Many Americans, like yourself, and all their friends, simply want
to recognize that Americans support our troops. Our idea of showing our
solidarity and support for our troops is starting Friday and continuing
on each and every Friday, until this is over, that every red -blooded
American who supports our young men and women, WEAR SOMETHING RED.
Word of mouth, press, TV -- let's see if we can make the United States,
on any given Friday, a sea of red much like a home football game at a
University.
If every one of our memberships share this with other acquaintances,
fellow workers, friends, and neighbors, I guarantee ! that it will not
be long before the USA will be covered in RED - and make our troops know
there are many people thinking of their well-being. You will feel better
all day Friday when you wear Red!
Wear Red on Fridays ..
SUPPORT OUR TROOPS! WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE, BECAUSE OF THE
BRAVE. FOR US, THEIR BLOOD RUNS RED!! GOD BLESS AMERICA"
God Bless America,
TC
Rig,
Thanks for pointing me to SIKY a while back. IMO this acquisition may generate them some steady revenues while they continue to work on ways to exploit their patents.
TC
Datsboss,
No! Filing late doesn't enable a company to add sales to the previous quarter. The quarter ends when it ends (Dec.31, March 30, etc.)
TC
Fred8: You make excellent points! Well said! I have spoken to both men and they have always been polite, albeit sometimes abrupt, which is understandable given how busy they are and the many hats each executive must wear in a small business. I too have attempted to time my calls to avoid times when filings are due, just before or after a known tradeshow or meeting, etc. I typically start out as well asking if they can spare a few minutes, which has worked well for me.
Thanks for your well thought out post.
Tom
OT JCI,
Don't be ridiculous!!!!!!! NITE is huge, they could lose multiple millions in a day and yawn. Their President has a larger SALARY (9.07 MILLION) than the market value of Torbay!!! They have 445 MILLION in CASH and a market cap of over 1 BILLION!!!!!
From this link:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=NITE
They handle 30% plus of ALL the volume on the NASDAQ and OTC, so don't go off with fantasies like that! NITE could control this stock for months if they wanted to, no matter what volume came in. In the long run, that might not be the smart business move, but they have DEEP pockets!!!! So please don't go tugging on Superman's cape!!! :)
TC
Matt,
Is the Level II down today? Any ETA? I am showing quotes and trades from 2/11?
TC
From the Board Info above (lots of great info there):
"OUTSTANDING SHARES: Approx 89M shares (as of February 2005)
(Shares outstanding has not changed since June 2004)"
DGA,
Updated Torbay website:
http://www.aerobicmouse.com/
Also, check the board info above, lots of the latest info is there or links to the info itself.
TC
News for 'TRBY' - (Torbay Holdings Inc.: AirObic Mouse Now Activated on the EDI Retail Distribution and Payment System)
AUSTIN, Texas, Feb 2, 2005 (PRIMEZONE via COMTEX) -- Torbay Holdings, Inc.
(OTCBB:TRBY) today announced that its Gripless and Clickless ergonomically functional neutral computer mouse, the AirObic Mouse, has been listed and activated in Ingram Micros' (NYSE:IM) EDI system.
The EDI system, short for Electronic Data Interchange, is the paperless transfer of data between buyers and suppliers by networks such as the Internet.
Ingram
Micro Inc. (with sales of $22Bn in FY 2003) on its website
(www.ingrammicro.com)
describes itself in parts as "... the world's largest technology distributor and a leading technology sales, marketing and logistics company." As a vital link in the technology value chain, Ingram Micro creates sales and profitability opportunities for vendors and resellers through unique marketing programs, outsourced logistics services, technical support, financial services and product aggregation and distribution ... The company offers a broad array of solutions and services to nearly 165,000 resellers by distributing and marketing hundreds of thousands of IT products worldwide from nearly 1,400 suppliers."
Tom Large, President & CEO stated: The immediate and likely impact of this development during the next week, as websites are updated by the Ingram System, is for our products to appear on an additional 100 to 150 websites, not unlike Tech Depot, part of Office Depot. Our presence in Austin, TX, has increased relevance, in that almost all the distributors with whom we might partner to fulfill government purchases, or contracts purchased through the EDI system are represented here. So too, the computer manufactures, who purchase third party products to fulfill government contracts. The timing for this outcome, part of the activity of Scott Scartozzi, is therefore ideal.
Safe Harbor Statement under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of
1995: The statements contained in this release that are not historical, are forward-looking statements that are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ materially from those expressed in the forward-looking statements, including but not limited to, certain delays and risks detailed from time to time in the company's filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
SOURCE: Torbay Holdings Inc.
By Staff
CONTACT: Torbay Holdings Inc. Tom Large, President & CEO
(516) 747-5955 tom@trby.com www.trby.com
www.aerobicmouse.com
(C) 2005 PRIMEZONE, All rights reserved.
OT: Rig,
A bit wordy today, aren't you? Could you boil that down to a mere page or two please?
TC
WA,
I did a search of this thread and found no post where someone recommended hiring the Lebed kid! So I guess that must be YOUR own idea? Just in case you REALLY think that is a good idea, here's an article, from HIS own web site, that should let you know what you are actually suggesting we do:
http://www.cs.brown.edu/people/rbb/risd/Lebed.html
"February 25, 2001
Jonathan Lebed: Stock Manipulator, S.E.C. Nemesis -- and 15
By MICHAEL LEWIS"
I personally hope and believe that Tom Large would want no part in dealing with this operator or anyone like him!
TC
Unknown,
First, I also appreciate you stepping up and agreeing to accept the moderator role.
I would vote to have Whitesands' post returned. I agree with you that infighting could drive away potential investors, but in this case I don't beleive this is infighting. Whitesands ahs been a valuable contributor here for a logn time. FFF, on the other hand raises issues and questions without ever actullay providing useful information, IMO. I believe Whitesands post was not an attack.
TC
Unknown,
I think that was a mighty stringent definition of "personal attack"! A suggestion to call the CEO directed at a poster with a history of raising questions just to instill doubt, when they have no intention or desire to know the answer is NOT a personal attack.
JMHO,
TC
Welles,
Your bluster is indeed good entertainment but you have demonstrated no credibility or intellect! Yes, your name-calling indeed represents a high degree of intellect! :)
I am glad you strongly believe what you believe! But unfortunately having a strong belief and denigrating others does not make your wrong beliefs TRUE! The longer you go on attempting to bully your way out of your indefensible postion just further diminishes any credibility you might have had!
Again, did you even read the paper?
TC
Welles,
Your comments are mighty smug and close-minded for someone that suggests we use out brains! You have a mighty high opinion of your own OPINION, which is fine, but if you claim there is no basis for Creationism, then show us the evidence! I too once believed in evolution in a superficial way until I truly began to study both the Bible and the scientific evidence which, by the way, much of was discovered by scientists who were attempting to DISPROVE the Bible.
I presented a scientific paper, you respond with BLUSTER! If you want to engage in a civil discussion backed up by evidence, I'm happy to oblige. But if you insist on your rants and bluster, there is no reason to waste my time.
Did you even READ the paper? I doubt it!
TC
"EVOLUTION IS A FACT" WRONG !
I will gladly supply you with a string of scientific evidence to the contrary! However, I will do so when my schedule permits, as I am not a full-time poster, like some here appear to be. Here is a start:
New Insight into the Ecology of the Cambrian Fauna: Evidence for Creation Mounts
By Fuz Rana, Ph.D.
A recent report by one of the world’s leading paleontologists, Richard Fortey, provides compelling evidence that chemoautotrophic symbiosis, a complex ecological relationship between sulfur-oxidizing bacteria and advanced, multicellular marine animals, first appeared close to the time of the Cambrian Explosion.1 This discovery adds to the growing weight of evidence for the supernatural introduction of complex animal life on earth.
The Cambrian “Explosion” is a dramatic event in life’s history taking place around 540 million years ago. Over the course of perhaps less than 2-3 million years, nearly every animal phylum (over 70) ever to exist on earth appeared. Since that time no new animal phyla have been introduced.2,3 Phyla are the categories in the biological classification hierarchy that refer to an organism’s body plan, or architectural design.
In 1986, Simon Conway Morris identified an additional feature of the Cambrian Explosion that has remained troubling for the naturalistic paradigm; namely, that the ecology of the Cambrian fauna resembled that of a modern marine ecology. It includes identifiable predator-prey relationships.4,5 This finding runs counter to what would be expected if the Cambrian “Explosion” were the result of natural processes. Instead of observing a haphazard, loosely-woven ecology, as predicted by the evolutionary paradigm, the Cambrian fauna appear suddenly in the fossil record as a tight-knit ecological community, consistent with a Creation Model for the origin of complex multicellular animals. The new discovery by Richard Fortey of the Natural History Museum in London adds additional support for a fine-tuned, modern Cambrian ecology.
Chemoautotrophic symbiosis is a complex interdependence between advanced marine animals and sulfur-oxidizing bacteria. These bacteria use hydrogen sulfide and other sulfur compounds as an energy source and often employ carbon dioxide as their sole carbon source, converting it into organic nutrients. Sulfur-oxidizing bacteria are found in environments that are low in oxygen and rich in hydrogen sulfide.
A number of multicellular, complex animals also exist in this toxic low oxygen, high sulfur environment through their interactions with sulfur-oxidizing bacteria. These animals feed on the bacteria directly or have modified body-and mouth-parts that allow the cultivation of the bacteria. Also, many of these animals have brood pouches to sequester their young from the toxic milieu until they can establish a symbiotic relationship with the sulfur-oxidizing bacteria.
Based on an understanding of modern-day chemoautotrophic symbiosis, Richard Fortey was able to recognize this type of relationship in the fossil record of Olenids (a family of trilobites) as far back as 505 million years ago, just after the Cambrian “Explosion.”6 These trilobite fossils share morphological features with modern arthropods that rely on chemoautotrophic symbioses and are recovered from deposits low in oxygen and high in sulfide content.
The appearance of this type of complex interrelationship shortly after the Cambrian event is surprising to evolutionists. Substantial anatomical changes (modified mouthparts, gills, body surfaces, reproductive anatomy) must take place all at once for the organism to survive in this toxic environment. Natural processes do not allow for the sudden and highly orchestrated changes necessary for an organism to transition into an environment that demands complex symbiotic relationships for survival. From an evolutionary perspective, this type of transition must happen over exceedingly long periods of time. Reasons to Believe’s Creation Model readily accommodates the discovery of chemoautotrophic symbiosis as far back as 505 million years ago.
References:
Richard Fortey, “Olenid Trilobites: The Oldest Known Chemoautotrophic Symbionts?” Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences USA 97 (2000): 6574-78.
Fazale R. Rana and Hugh Ross, “The Cambrian ‘Explosion’ and Why It Means So Much for Christians” (An Interview with Dr. Paul Chien), Facts for Faith (Quarter 2, 2000): 15-17.
Fazale R. Rana, “Cambrian Flash,” Connections2, no. 1 (2000): 3.
S. Conway Morris, “The Community Structure of the Middle Cambrian Phyllopod Bed (Burgess Shale),” Paleontology 29 (1986): 423-67.
S. J. Gould, Wonderful Life: The Burgess Shale and the Nature of History (New York: W. W. Norton, 1989), 222-24.
Fortey, 6574-78.
Maine,
Open your eyes! You seem to see only what you want to see and IMO your generalizations are WAY off-base! The assertions you make fit VERY nicely with the Kerry-loser-liberal WHINE brigade! Very few of you have yet admitted that you LOST the election - BOTH Popular vote and Electoral College! Accept it! But for most of you it's now rigged voting machines or evangelical zealots or whatever other EXCUSE seems to fit most conveniently!
Editing of your post a bit and it fits nicely I must say:
"most people on the President Bush side try to engage those on the other side seriously. It is my expereicen dealing with this other side, in this case you, and watching others here when they engage others, that that other side CANNOT AND WILL NOT engage in civil discussion, they (you) change the topic, dont answer the question, and when challenged to answer a question, that one side changes topics and just says more silly things...(mlsoft is the exeception)
it is for this reason i ask, why in hell are any of us (at least on the President Bush side) here... that other side cannot argue logic, facts , or sincerity....it is a mirror of the liberal Democrats...
How about accepting that our country is moving toward a more conservative philosophy of government. Bush increased his percentage of the popular vote in 47 states over combined Kerry-Nader in comparison to 2000 totals versus combined Gore-Nader! Looks like a strong trend to me. This from an article posted by one of your cohorts:http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=4515748
TC
FFF,
Falcon is correct! I also have analyzed hundreds of financial statements and studied enough accounting to know that Cost of Goods Sold (COGS) is ONLY that - the cost of the inventory! Any other expenses related to marketing, selling, salaries, commissions, etc is NOT included in COGS!
TC
Soxfan,
Classy post! Thank you! I actually didn't intend my post to be gloating. I was merely commenting on the lack of posts like yours and Kerry's failure to concede!
I stand by my last sentence. It is time to unite! Voters on both sides, while we certainly have differences, have much more in common than we do differences! Most all of us want to be safe and secure, have a job or business that enables us to earn a decent living, have our children get a good education, and much more. We are still the greatest nation on Earth! As Americans, we have more freedom and more opportunity than virtually all the people across the globe! Why else are millions trying every year to come live here?
Tom
Brig, BRAVOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! Notice how none (at least that I have seen) of the lefties here have conceded defeat or offered congratulations either? All I see is bitterness, anger, and whining!
Time for the country to unite behind the leader WE the PEOPLE have chosen!
TC
LaFem - WAHHHH! WAHHHHH! WAHHHHHHH! - Havent seen this much whining in.... welll EVER!!!!! Sorrry you are taking this so hard! You are definitely the QUeen of the WHINERS! LOL!
OT FinancialAdvisor, You misquoted the Bible there. What is says is "the LOVE of money is the root of all evil", not "Money is the root of all evil." You were very right about the quote coming form a 'wise man"
TC
OT Rigatoni,
In that case, perhaps the Kobe herd should order a few cases of HSHL's products! LOL
TC
OT: Careful with the massaging cattle talk! You'll get Brig excited! LOL
Rigatoni,
OT: Agreed Quality does cost, but I can buy the best PRIME Tenderloin (Ribeyes and Strips robably a third) in Texas for less than half that, and it ain't FROZEN! :(
TC
Omaha Steaks are good, but those prices are ridiculous! $42 a pound????? That is NUTS!!!
Dave,
I agree wholeheartedly with your post! I find it amazing anyone would use the word "decent" describing yesterday's PR? I missed that comment and am glad I did. Perhaps they only read the headline?
IMO, the real meat is in the body of the PR, not the headline. I could see how someone might casually glance at the headline and call it "decent" but NOT anyone who read it and has a clue of what Torbay's plan is? Many posters here pasted and commented on many of the items of progress mentioned therein, so I will not reiterate them.
I look forward to what Tom Large will surprise us with next, with NO TIME LIMIT! I want him to make good deals, and any time you put a deadline on making a deal, especially as a small company, you dramatically weaken your negotiating position! I will wait for Tom to execute his plan!
TC
Trader,
Thanks! Nice job with the board DD info!
TC