Annoyed (as usual)
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It certainly is depressing. Even as a big TYTN fan, its difficult to see how taking the pps through the depths of hell could possibly have a later upside. Mark is asleep at the wheel. Glad he enjoyed his trips to China on my dime.
Verdict... great product... lousy CEO. I hope I am wrong. I am stuck here for the time being. I think we are in the poorhouse till Spring.
Not too worried... yet. We are going to bounce around in this low range until we get some kind of good or bad news. I think we have found the bottom here... unless we get more dilution or a r/s. Is mark that stupid? Maybe. He has built a great product and has shafted us in the process... at least so far. Im keeping my fingers crosses. It could be 2nd Q before we get our big bounce. Im sticking around for the ride.
I agree dumping all those shares was moronic. I wish I knew what he was thinking. Would it not have made MUCH more sense to PR the heck out of your company and all your big plans??? I cannot imagine what he is doing right now is going to work either. I am holding out for a merger with YTO... or a big Chinese investor stepping in. His designs have great potential. this thing if you look at the long term charts was in this same area back in May before it spiked. I see no point in selling here.
Again, this is NOT the place to put your family fortune. these are the pinks for a reason. I put in more than I should have as I wanted a chance at a better life for my family. My logic was that if I lost it all, I was still stuck getting up and going to work tomorrow... but if it hit big... well... you get the idea. Anyway, looks like I will be going to work again tomorrow. Im a big boy... I will recover even if it goes to 0... However, I would prefer a $1 pps :)
Keep your powder dry. Look at the longterm graphs. If you are down as much as I am, there is no point in selling here. EVERYTHING posted on Ihub is opinion and agenda. Over time, I have learned that the vast majority is complete crap.
Ill say it again... you either believe in the design and the plan, or you dont. I dont see anything else with the chance to completely change your life in the pinkies like TYTN.
I am neither a Mark worshipper or basher. I think he has been screwing us... and has been fundamentally dishonest about what is happening. Why? Now THAT is the question. If all he wanted was capitol, he could have pimped this to all the different stock PR companies. Mark is all about his tractors. thats it. He couldnt give a crap about you, me, or his stock price. So, you either like what you see, or you dont. Its that simple for me. As for me, I am sticking around to see where this thing lands. I DO think a pop... a BIG pop is coming. Do I KNOW that? Of course not. But unlike 2/3s of the crap you will read on this page, I actually have put my money where my mouth is.
Go TYTN.
I dont think this is all about money for Mark. I think he is in love with his tractors and has no clue about the money side. If all he was interested in running a money pyramid, he would have EVERY PR organization pimping his stock. I, of course, wish he would. Mark is losing his rear end with us. I wish I saw some recognition of the problem. So far, all he is doing is hiding. My hopes that he is some sort of genius with something up his sleeve is rapidly disappearing. I think he is an old man that dreams of tractors. He would have been better off working as a designer for someone else rather than trying to run a company. He is not cut out for it by judging be the decisions he is making. So... in short... I really wish he was out for money. I do not think that is the case.
We have left the world of speculation and entered the wild world of ballistics with this stock.
MArk is hiding under his desk. I think he has tried to do too much too fast. I could be wrong. I am still holding out for the real possibility that he has something up his sleeve. No one could be this stupid... could they?
Im aware of that possibility. Like I said... ML could give a crap about the investor. Its all a game at this point.
For what it is worth... I do think that we are oversold here. Yeah, Mark completely sucks in dealing with this end of his business. I apologize to those that this might come as a shock to... but your loyalty to this man is misplaced as he clearly could give a crap about you the investor. Sorry.
Still, he does have a working product and there is the huge potential of worldwide demand. I am going on record and saying that I think we are oversold here. We very well could be looking at the bargain of a lifetime. Thats the pinks.
Max... have you been able to get any kind of contact with ML? He has to know he is in trouble. I cannot imagine his silence helping this situation.
It very well could. I will be quadrupaling my entire position at .0001. Already got my buy order in. Could be my only way of coming back out of this.
WEll... I guess now I know the answer on "genius or moron" for MArk. Going down in flames with the rest of you.
You are either stupid or genius. Time will tell. I have averaged all the way down. So, we will be stupid or brilliant together. Ive given up on predicting this one. Mark has given us nothing to work with. I cant help but thinking the .0003 we have hit is 100% engineered. Am I talking conspiracy? Sure. Do I have ANYTHING to base that on? Nope... just the deafening silence. I cannot imagine how this could have gotten here inadvertantly. Mark couldnt have steered this thing lower had he aimed it off a cliff. I cant help but wonder why anyone would do that if there was not some master scheme up his sleeve. There are dozens of paid advertisers they could be using to pimp their wares. He chooses not to. Makes no logical sense unless there is a missing piece to this puzzle.
Yeah, I am getting the same idea. I have gotten a number of private emails either ranting at Mark calling him every name in the book or calling ME anything from an idiot for posting anything negative about a stock I own to the "how could you dare question our beloved CEO" (insert small violin playing here). The loyalty to this man as our investments have cratered is unbelievable. Why? I would can him in a heartbeat if he worked for me. And he DOES work for us, the shareholders. You would think that $7500 lost would at least get me an email returned. Apparently not. His silence has done more damage than anything else. It would not take THAT much to PR this thing. Why doesnt he? Any answer is speculation. There is something spectacular in the works that ends with either a lot of money or a complete faceplant. It should be interesting.
After watching 10k shrink to less than a third while Mark sits silently in his castle is a bit unnerving. So, yeah, I am annoyed. Still, I have yet to see ANY company with the longterm potential of TYTN. He has created an amazing product. Will you or I see a profit on our investment? Is there even hope of recouping our losses? Or will he bend us over the table with a reverse split? Who knows? Thats the pinks. I am not whining about it... I am a big boy. But I am also not going to sing his praises while he could have raised capitol far easier by running a PR blitz. Clearly he is not concerned about his investors at the moment... at least that is the conclusion I have come to. Am I wrong? Maybe. Time will tell. So far, his behavior does not inspire confidence and his silence has earned our .0004 ask. Still, I am in this longterm. TYTN can do 1000% in a day with the right news. I'm still of the mindset to stick around and find out.
I am NOT a basher... just a highly disappointed investor. I am also hopeful that something better is coming.
Lets hope you are right. Mark is either a genius or a moron. I have been saying this for a while now. I cannot tell which. His products point to genius. His actions since March point to the latter. Time will tell. Until then... I will keep accumulating. Keep in mind, these were the SAME conversations we were having when people were talking aabout what a steal it was to be purchasing at .002.
The problem is not the product. This is the only investment I have owned that the PRs have actually managed to drive prices down. Why? They are faull of errors and look like they have been written by a five year old. I hope that somewhere in the near future Mark spends a little time hiring a competant PR representative. Again... I do NOT think the problem is the product. This thing has huge upside.
I have been with Tytn for quite some time now. Tytan does not answer emails, they promised us regular PR's (which hasnt happened), they diltution and the extra 5 billion stocks which appeared out of thin air... shall I go on??? I am not impressed with how Mark runs his investor side of this business. Am I sticking around? Sure... I still think its got far more upside... and the tractors are beautiful. I think we are going to have a lot of crappy days between now and next Aug Q2 reports of 2012. That is when I expect things to really get moving. I am in this for the long haul. But yes, I think they could have raised the capitol they needed without screwing their investors.
Nothing to do here. How many people will be buying tractors in december? I think we are at the bottom... but what do i know? Clearly Mark is screwing us. I am sticking it out till next summer to see what happens. Too low to bail here.
Agreed. Mark is clueless about stocks. He clearly could care less about his investors. Either he has something big up his sleeve... or he is a complete moron. I cant tell which at this point. He does understand tractors. I hope that is enough to get this company moving again. This is 100% his M.O. Still... i am convinced we will have our day... just a matter of time.
Agreed. Mark is clueless about stocks. He clearly could care less about his investors. Either he has something big up his sleeve... or he is a complete moron. I cant tell which at this point. He does understand tractors. I hope that is enough to get this company moving again. This is 100% his M.O. Still... i am convinced we will have our day... just a matter of time.
If it runs to .005, I am going to retire early!
I seem to remember the same conversations going on in June. Every day was "when's Q2?" When it finally came out... NOTHING happened. NOTHING. So... we will see. Mark's filings always look like a joint venture between the Chinese and a group of fifth graders. He REALLY needs to employ someone specifically to deal with the public relations in this company!!!
Yeah, I think so too. Gonna be a while before we see fireworks (I think), but who knows? I just want my ticket for when this train leaves the station.
I have bought tools and toys with my beer and cigarette money... 17 years and counting!
Dude... chill. This is a NEW company. Why do you think you can buy shares at .0006 right now??? Besides, I dont think the US market is going to be his prime target anyway. I expect these things to be in places like Cambodia and Viet Nam... areas that US investors are buying up ag land in right now. I suspect most US farmers will be highly reluctant giving up their John Deere status symbols for an unknown for quite some time... if ever.
I do love your posts and hope that our optimism is well placed. Arguing with NQ is a waste of time though. Clearly there is an agenda there.... whether it is $ or pathology... IDK.
Just curious if you have been able to get any response from TYTN recently. they do not answer their emails and I am finding it absolutely maddening. No... I am not asking specifics or insider info. Any idea? Any idea why they would choose to dump shares over running a PR to gain capitol? I just dont get the logic. this thing is sinking without them even making an effort. They either have something big up their sleeves... or they have no clue what they are doing. I would love to have your thoughts on the matter. Yeah... we are all guessing... and thats the problem. Anything you can get from them would be great.
You and I are on the same page. The product is spectacular. It may take a long time before we see our return on our investment... but I do believe we will see it. Pretty hard to argue with those tractors. I am here to stay.
Still... what I am having a MAJOR problem stomaching is how they do not return emails and their communication with their investors is disgraceful. I am NOT impressed. If they even had one staff member dedicated to working PR... how could this be a bad thing? I just dont get it. There is something else going on we are not seeing. Their silence is deafening. They couldnt kill their PPS faster if they shoved it off a cliff. Why? Are we dealing with a genius or a moron? I just dont see it.
Has anyone been able to get a reply out of tytan? I have sent a number of letters and they do not even have the courtesy to send me back a form letter. The tractors are beautiful. I just wish there was SOME response from these people. They do not seem to give a rats @$$ about their investors or their stock price. It is amazing to me that they are this intent on creating this company but are tanking the ir own SP. I just dont get it.
Gotta tell you... I am with you. I believe in the company and the idea. I wish Mark had some confidence in us. I am tired of the way he has treated the SH's. Time to grab some KY and cowboy up. This thing is going to go higher... just a question of time.
Im going all in here. I have my buy order in for tomorrow morning. WE have been here before people. Is there any news that anyone has seen to drive this???
Nice rally! Here is the big bounce I promised. Made up some of my losses buying cheapies. Still in the red... but could be a lot worse.
Lets be clear... we are all guessing here. There is no proof of dilution (alhthough i certainly suspect that IS the case).
Dont feel too bad... i loaded up at 17 and have been averaging ever since. I still think we see pennies within a year. Welcome to the pinks. Opinions are like @$$holes... everybodies got one. Shud be interesting. I shud have dropped 5k on those 4s like i was thinking. I choked. Typically when i a ditch its time to quit digging. So... im along for the ride... until........
Go tytn!
The more i think about it... the more intentional this seems. He also lied to us about PRs and what we could expect. He recanted his promise. Why? You couldnt steer this into the ground harder if you tried. Knowing he is holding a huge stock position... what is the strategy with killing ur pps? This is not the way to raise revenue imho. A good pr could do that. So... why INTENTIONALLY tank your pps? Something smells...
Thats what i am wondering. Gotta be something hidden here.???
Im not sticking up for him. I sent him a scathing letter. I dont know what he is thinking. I think he could have raised far more money through a pr.
Unfortunately... i have to agree. There are definately some hidden cards here. I cant help but think this looks intentional. Why? A buyout?
I still dont see a burning building here. Everything about this looks like panicked selling and this has oversold... badly. What am i missing?
Whats the point??? Pinks can do 1000% in a day. Mark COULD choose to pull his head out of his @$$ and actually lead! What we need is a pr and some positivity. This thing could easily still take off!
Let tytan know what you think of the dilution. I sent them a letter letting them know what i think of the deafening silence and complete lack of leadership. Great product... where is the pr? There are other ways of creating revenue that does not involve shafting your own investors.
http://tytancorp.com/cm/Company/Contact_Us.html
AAgreed! We bounce hard. Something big is coming.
You and me both.... i have doubled my position here. I still say we see a penny by january. Something big is coming!