Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
Register for free to join our community of investors and share your ideas. You will also get access to streaming quotes, interactive charts, trades, portfolio, live options flow and more tools.
you missed my point entirely, pardon me but i don't hear anyone here blaming anyone else for their actions, some crying yes, but it's fairly understood that no one is forced to buy or sell.. but one would be foolish to think that whatever is posted here does not affect a buyer or seller's decision. Face it, that is why these boards exist..eg..a thinking buyer might read Al's posts for example, do their own research and decide to steer clear, or get out asap..no?..
I read this board often, (for the drama alone that entertains me), though less so now, and i mention poor tiger because he made it obvious that he trusted Russ's voice, and did not heed Ozone's or Al's.
i'm suggesting that posts like Russ's reflect a bag holder's unfounded optimism. While truth be told, someone in Russ's position would post his angle out of self interest alone, "misery often loves company".. which is why we're all here in the first place, self interest, to make some money, or stroke our egos, even if it that means telling someone to sell or steer clear.
it's also my opinion that in this case, ( a shell, and less than a penny), just about every NSAV individual buyer, (which again imo are few), is reading this board. So my message to Russ is this, he's only shooting himself in the foot, and should have taken Ozone's (and Al's) advice long ago rather than throw good money at bad while calling for more bag holders.. and looking at least to me, foolishly desperate, (even if his calculations turn out to be true).. best to stay mum if your holding.
..unless you are a paid pumper, (which i don't think Russ to be)... anyone remember "stockman"?
all my opinion only, while i haven't traded nsav in almost 2 years, i still enjoy the characters here..
happy trading..
still hoping Russ?.. gotta admit you got some faith !!! i know you lost a lot, and a drowning person will grab onto any hope, but do you think it fair to be posting such conjecture, all of which has been wrong for almost 3 years now?.. clearly you'd like your money back, who wouldn't, but don't fish others into holding this fake company's body bag.. IMO it's just as wrong as the 2 who hoodwinked you and the others (poor tigerlil) into buying their load of goods.. you should have listened to Ozone years ago, remember him?- the only one talking sense , but he was chased away by beliers of paper goods.. believe what you will Russ, but for everyone's sake, please stop spreading your self interest laden opinion..
happy trading to all..
and remember trade these pennies, don't invest in them..
fng
re: my 2 cents..thanks all for the replies,- clear and concise.
i have not read any filings and have paid little attention in 2012 following the hype and subsequent SP decline, but i plan to..
thanks again
thanks for the reply Dallas…
have you seen their original web site?.. if you had, you would have read where it said their coffee beans were not from their acreage, but were using a blend..
has that changed?
on the new site, it clearly states they are "roasters", and the the beans are outsourced and does not clearly state the Jamaican beans are from their farm..
"The beans from Jamaica are from a 52-acre private estate sits atop the Blue Mountains in Chepstowe, Portland, Jamaica, long revered as the region with the world's most desirable coffee beans. From the Marley's Jamaica Blue Mountain® coffee farm, to partner farms in Africa, Central America and other top coffee-growing regions worldwide, Marley Coffee strives to support communities and the environment through organic, sustainable and ethical practices."
i am only asking because it seems to me their new web site is much less informative.
Yes, the Marley's are entitled to gain from Bob's name, but Bob was nothing if not authentic.
i'm not bashing, i'd love this to be a real viable business, and not a marketing ploy to make a fortune from a highly diluted public corporation with over 5 billion authorized shares and only 3 employees of record, unless their acreage is highly automated, those 3 are doing a lot of bean picking..
happy trading
my 2 cents..
i started looking at Jamn back when famous pump and dumper John Bell touted it as his greatest pick ever in feb 2011.. it had a great run then on phoney hype and empty exuberance all the way to 6.00 from .59 in a matter of months- then quickly dropped leaving many bag holders..
i haven't done much research lately, but i see their sales are growing, and operations expanding (if the numbers are to be believed, here in eastern Can, i have yet to see the packaging on any shelves or know of anyone who has)..
now here is my concern, anyone who diligently read the former web sight, would learn that Marley coffee has yet to produce any coffee from their touted plantations, but are producers of Packaging, containing blends from all over the planet, with their logos..
this is well and fine, if the sales and corporate structure warrant the practice, but what bothers me is the way they project the fact that they are growers and roasters, when that is clearly not yet the case..
if i am wrong, and totally off base, i would appreciate someone steering me in the right direction .
id love to be a share holder in anything related to Bob Marley, (one of my heros), but my gut tells me individuals are using his name and likeness to make a fortune off a stock, and not a viable business, which is not very "Bob Marleyesque"..
only my opinion..
happy trading all..
"Then this insanity can stop and the PPS can accurately reflect the true value of the company."
…which is… 00.00?
happy trading all..
excellent post!,, your best ever FG!- i might add!..take heed all!.. or stay away from the pennies..
happy trading!
Al, may be smarter than the rest of you, but i take exception to that comment Russ..
look again bud.. wrong fearngreed.. i have been advising all of you to sell this scam starting back when it was in the .30's, then again below .10.. remember me?, i am the guy who lives in the far north, i couldn't possibly know whats really going on.. just ask Russ
do you folks not know the definition of insanity?, or are you all suckers for punishment?
wow… not even i would play this scam anymore, there are just too many bag holders with no chance of a return..and though this game is all about fear and greed, i do have a conscience... i hate to say i told you so,..but hey- i did twice, once in the .30's way back when, and most recent when it went from .02 up to .07 or .08.. sorry to the fool who bought my last shares at .06- i believe Russ, that's when you told me i was foolish to sell…tsk, tsk, tsk..
happier trading all..
itsy bitsy, teeny weenie, yellow pokadot bikini with chantilly lace and blue suede shoe's forming, indicating that gaga eyed consumers are crossing the street without looking both ways, climbing all over each other in the search for the next pit to throw their money in.. while the poobaas of the grand flogg are looking to house their expanding bank rolls and backsides ..
Sheri, it's probably not a good idea to take the advice of anyone on a stock message board when it comes to risking your life savings, except maybe this bit: never buy stocks with money you cannot afford to lose, and never, ever, ever invest in penny stocks, buy if you must and sell them at the first hint of profit or loss- invest in, and hold blue chips (with earnings) for ever, (with money you can afford to be without).. and only trade penny stocks (if you must).. Oh, and i am sorry your boy has learned this lesson the hard way..
happy trading all!
guess you can buy anything you can think of down in the " Excited States of America".. except an ounce of old fashioned common sense.
how many paid cheerleaders and greedy, gaga eyed investors does it take to make a group of shysters in Florida very rich??.. if this dog reaches 3 or 4 cents on all this bogus hype, then sell, sell, sell,..
happy trading all
from "shit", to shitier... that's funny..
thanks to everyone for the daily entertainment on this board..though i'd love to hear what Ozone's got to say, are you out there Ozone?- ..guess you finally just let the blind lead the blind, and judging from the recent quiet, guess most of you have decided to do the same.. good for you, (sorry Tiger- lesson learned).. and good luck to all..
happy trading
thanks for the advice, but i like to think that whoever the bigger fool is that bought my shares, can also make a bit of profit.. after that, my conscious is clear and it's not my responsibility..
happy trading
I see this board hasn't changed much, with the exception of the smartest poster, Ozone, who seems to have come to his senses and moved on from trying to warn you all...So cheering someone else's losses to a scam is OK as long as you aren't left holding the bag with your bad decisions?.. no, i don't own any NSRS, but i do have some of the cheapest NSAV stock sold in the past 3 months (not that it was even worth the 2 cents or so i paid for the crap).. will you be left holding when i sell today for a 100% gain?..
ps. i don't mean to offend you or anyone, i just like to state it the way it is...
happy trading...
here, here!.... better than anything on TV.. thanks all for another entertaining week- especially mwto.. you are an interesting fellow..
have a great weekend all!
sorry Russ, but that is an absurd statement- maybe down there in litigious Excited States of America, where suing people can be a vocation.
while i am still on here, in response to:
the not so good ...
- little revenues to speak of:
Promotions just underway, revenue doesn't scale over night
-contracting out of the product therefore losing control of quality:
Wrong assumption - our employees order the product and operate our oven
- a leasing agreement that (seems to me) offers the lessor favourable terms with minimal risks:
Have no idea what you're referring to
- complications involved in shipping food products:
Complications? Every product sold in the world is shipped from somewhere ...
1. i am assuming you have been smoking and selling product for some time, prior to current promotions, i am also referring to the previous closure of the restaurant in California which i assume was offering your smoked product. yes ups and downs occur, but my research shows more down than ups with smokey product sales.. surprising though, because, as i stated, i could not find one bad review with regards to the food.
also, having a bit of wood smoking experience, (smoking fish is a long standing tradition here). i assume that wood smoking mass quantities would be a very expensive undertaking.. and difficult to grab market share and shelf space from the established smokers of fish and meat products already selling in stores
2. how many employees (Smoky food employees) do you have at the facility in Iowa? also the use of co-packing affiliates, in my opinion is akin to losing quality control with products as specialized as your foods.
3.i will refer back for the details of the leasing agreement and my notes.. i will reply to this again another time
4. yes everything gets shipped somewhere, maybe it's my Canadian sensibilities that tell me to be wary of eating prepared food shipped in the mail, (even my mother's cookies). Large carriers using climate controlled food shipping methods offer at least to me, a measure of security over a frozen UPS package...
as i stated, i have more issues and i will outline them in detail when the time allows itself...
about your Canadian affiliates regarding the salmon, can you fill me in?- who, Atlantic, Pacific or fresh water, or farmed?
thanks kindly
thanks, i will organize my notes, and post my concerns for the CEO to address....
soon to come..
I'd like more info regarding your Canadian expansion..ie.. who is the supplier?, Atlantic, Pacific Salmon, or farmed (and where)?....I am Canadian (Maritimes)
i made critical comments on this board a while back and was chased away by the cheering section.. since then i have been watching and reading everything i could find about Smokey..
my take one month later:
the good- the product has received raving reviews from anyone who has tried it..
-WW ad campaign (though, i have yet to see them on the WW site)
-a CEO who seems engaged and enterprising
- ongoing operations despite financial set backs
- strong share price support, though possibly irrelevant regarding OTC's ( i know it's been
up listed, but it is still an OTC (QB)
the not so good- little revenues to speak of,
-contracting out of the product therefore losing control of quality
- a leasing agreement that (seems to me) offers the lessor favourable terms with
minimal risks
- complications involved in shipping food products
i have other points, but those are my main issues..
thank you
sadly, not much...
as far as i can tell, they are not even producing the coffee that they are selling, just the packaging...
someone please correct me if i'm wrong..
too bad, i have been watching this for almost a year, i thought this may be a rare penny keeper, luckily and or sadly i never pulled the trigger. last spring, it just began to move too fast for me and i got cold feet.. thought i would jump in some time here on the fall, but something tells me to keep watching for a while.
thank's Rus, likewise...................
for what it's worth,
for all your sakes, i hope nsav gets pumped again; for my sake, i hope it hits .03... but remember that someone always gets stuck holding the bag, ultimately it's up to them.
my advice: (or opinion)
invest your savings in dividend paying blue chip staples, trade with spare cash and close those positions at the end of the day, up or down..( many long positions are short ones gone wrong.)
forget charts for these otc's, volume and sentiment are what matter,
and when you make a profit, put most of it back in your investments, pay your bills and treat yourself to a little something.
and when you take a loss, try to understand why, and apply that lesson on the next trade.
..but no one wants advice from a guy named fear'n greed..
my monicker turns people off, i know, but that can also be said about the truth.
p.s.. that bit i said about David "piggy backing" out of self interest- the truth is that we all do in this business. some are more successful than others.
Russ, i didn't mean to sound accusatory.. (if you think about it, all traders are manipulators), but its interesting to note the contradictions.. you, and some others here who hold shares describe this company as if it has a solid plan and a bright future, does that mean you're in for the long haul, or will you sell if there is a price recovery to anywhere near your entry? are you investing in or trading this stock?.. most of us talk up our trades only, while investments are rarely even looked at. I believe that this entire site is full of traders only, while investors may come by just to check the pulse now and then.. again nothing personal.. it's just interesting to me, the things people think, what they say, and what they do, and how all 3 coincide. I am both trader and investor, and studying humans is my education towards making money in the markets..
Me? i invest for my future (and because interest rates are pitiful) and i trade to pay my daily bills, many of my trades last for minutes and much of the time i haven't a clue as to what these companies do, nor do i care, but i can tell you about every aspect of my investments, from the balance sheet to the boardroom, from the IPO, to high's & lows, and everything in between.
as for NSAV, i don't know where they are going, but the reality is that they are in penny land, no revenues to speak of, no fundamentals either, just a web site full of links and a short history of stock promotion. And though they are in a currently topical industry, they are run by an individual who has been known to piggy back topical industries for personal gain in the past.
sorry for my long windedness..
happy trading
wouldn't have guessed you as the "manipulator" type Russ.. oh well, money and the markets can make all sorts of people do all sorts of things..
happy trading all..
thanks for some of the truest and most lucid posts on this site...
are you saying you are o.k. with dumping your stocks on some other poor buyer taken by promos and hype?.. i am not criticizing that decision, just commending your honesty.. especially seeing that most everyone else on this board, holding this stock, would do the very same thing while extolling the co''s virtue, plan and money making executions.. everyone here, i bet, would dump this stock given the chance... thanks for admitting as much!
nothing is inconsequential.... the outcome and value of which is seen only in hindsight..
"Its bad people, thats why the whole market is bleeding again and again and again."
i've tried, mostly with success to laugh off or ignore your comments 'mwito', but once again you have proven that you know little about the markets, but this last post takes the cake.. If you really believe your drivel, then my advice would be for you to get out and stay out, and gold won't help you either.. sorry, nothing personal, that's just my opinion spurned by weeks of reading your comments.
wouldn't hurt to ask her to be more specific..
i have been a technical analysis guy for my entire investing career (20 +years), what with math being my background, and i still find reasons to throw all my charts out.. but when it comes to penny boys, the only factors that count are sentiment, volume and earnings, (which almost all penny stocks have none of). It's easier to find a top when you consider previous volume, as most penny investors will sell for a profit and move on, so when the volume is unusually high on the buy side, you can expect a sell off shortly there after.. as for bottoms , IMO, forget about it!., even old Leo Fibonacci himself would find it impossible to use his own brilliant summations to gage where a penny stock is going.
Charts are great for telling you where a stock has been, and in normal range bound markets, they can be quite useful in future tells, especially in todays world of algorithms, but as you implied Russ, in unusual times of fear and greed, they become useless distractions..
Happy trading
hey all, here is an interesting read regarding Groupon from one of my favourite investment news letters...
happy trading
http://seekingalpha.com/article/290287-the-future-of-groupon-s-business-model?source=email_authors_alerts
sorry tripl7z, but the CEO came on here and attacked my comment first.. and frankly i didn't believe it was the CEO.. (just another monicker).. but that assumption was obviously wrong.. anyhow, my first thought is "thy protest muchly", my second thought is yea, i'd like my CEO "in the kitchen" per say, and not roaming the net looking to defend comments from voices in the crowd like mine.. especially one that has yet to sell anything...
ok, this is really my last reply for now.. i'll watch unless any of you have something interesting or relevant to discuss, like what the company has done to increase share holder value
have a good day...
so i'm no cheer leader.. and i wouldn't wear mini's and pom poms too well either..
i try to make sense and see the truth.. not always successful, are you?
no room for people who may disagree, i understand.. like i told trpl7z... i'll watch quietly..
happy trading
@tripl7z--- sorry but i don't "use scare tactics" or any kind of tactics... i'm sorry if i gave that impression, but if this "tight" board is derisive and fearful of a contrary view, then i will leave the" love fest be"... i'll watch quietly ...
have a good day
@Farrago, thanks for your level headed reply.. yes you are right, i have yet to do any real digging, but i plan to, and i plan to stick around and watch this company.. but to say that any stock buyer is free of fear and greed, is to refuse to admit the obvious.. not a good trait for successful stock buying..
thanks all for your morning shakedown, have a great day..!
@pianoman...i am saying that a CEO concerning themselves with a board full of us, penny trading , fearful and greedy amateurs, has way too much time on their hands..
that's all
happy trading