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Tune in to MacGyver...
If you read this msg board from long ago, what you find is....
All the longs got it wrong
And they still sing the same old song...
You'd think there'd be lesson learned,
But all that happened was they got burned
Now they watch their king and queen
Sell them down the river clean
Yet they still give them kudos
The dumb clucks...
I said I was done with this non productive banter with you, mainly due to your lack of comprehension and narrow mindedness and also due to not wanting to feed your propensity for rudeness and name calling.......and I did mean it and will stick to it, but I hadn't seen this post you already had put up and as I'm easily provoked, I couldn't help but to make sure I set the record straight so that discerning minds can see the pure bs you spew, over and over. Reminds me of Babs......you just can't stop or help yourself. So here's your quote and my rebuttal and then have fun cuz I'm done.
"So you believed you could make money on VPLM, bought shares, sold them for a profit and then stuck around to belittle others for doing the same thing. Got it. Please read my other posts about the discussion of whether that is sad or pathetic.
*** It amazes mean how a grown man or woman, as the case may be, can be so dang narrow minded, but you certainly are that. There are all sorts of easy to fathom explanations for what was meant when keeping it as short as possible, I told you I made money from Vplm long ago. That doesn't explain much but didn't think it was necessary.....that is until I just read your bs and bitter take from a small mind with zero imagination yet one that has no problem reaching instant conclusions with little info. I don't owe you any explanation but I want you to see what a small and mean spirited mind and attitude you have. Ironically, I've explained what happened many many times here on this board over a long time span but obviously, you are not much of a reader here. It quite simple. I was knowledgeable and interested in voip for some time before I got involved with vplm and when I did buy in, it was long before there was any talk about patents. I recieved a tip I think and I was interested in voip and felt it was up and coming so I invested in vplm. I got in pretty cheap but still higher than it is now, some 13 or 14 years later. About 2 cents. Then came all the blatant lies in the form of PRs from that Chang dude. Of course, I swallowed hook line and sinker like everybody else did here and I kept buying more and more and more... The price had gone up to around 8 cents or so but by that time I was beginning to see the cracks in the story. Then the price began a long slide downward and on paper I was waaay down underwater. Up til then, I never sold a share due to listening to the self proclaimed true longs. I was still relatively new to investing tho I started during the 2008/9 crash. I knew nothing about the markets or investing but saw opportunity. And I did well and never went into the red even tho all the otc pennystocks were trash. Made out with a few big board stocks using common sense. I took a few grand and made it a base for investments, win or lose. That included Vplm. So I was way underwater with vplm and after maybe listening to some ppl who didn't consider themselves the elite true longs (who kept telling investors to never sell and not to be weak and get shaken out). I came to realize the only way out of the hole Vplm got me in was to day/swing trade which I did and not only recouped all my on paper losses but also a very handsome profit. At the same time, my read of the entire board history and tons of DD brought me to the point where I had no more trust in this farce. And I also began to connect the dots from all the inconsistencies I kept coming across with this so called company. I no longer was interested in buying this stock and vowed to myself to never buy another share from this rogue company but I had a bunch of shares still so I just hung on to them because they weren't worth much to make it as worthwhile as I wanted. I set a sell price of 50 cents which was waaay below what most ppl here thought was gonna happen and always "soon"... It never got to that price. At one point it reached 4t cents for like a few minutes or so but I was at that time, away from the whole thing, distracted by more important family matters. Besides, it didn't reach my set price of 50 cents. I stuck to my self promise to never buy this stock again no matter what and by now I knew what a farce the whole company was so I told myself, hey, if I'm wrong and someday it goes to 50 cents or better, then I'll sell what I had and if not, I'd rather use as wallpaper than to sell for less. I was in the black for perpetuity anyways.
I continued to use the forum for various reasons. It's a social media place. It's a place of great entertainment. It's a place to give others an alternate view of what I see the company as and a warning of sorts. And it's a place really good for pushing the buttons of the abundance of fools here. There are no rules that say you have to be a pro vplm person plus I'm a very long shareholder. So that the story whether you like it or believe it or not. I have absolutely no need for you or anyone else to accept it or not. I've never told a lie here. If you dont believe it, you can do the same thing ea and every alleged infringer told Vplm what to do after receiving vplm's "love letters" that were supposed to be strong infringement warning letters but were nothing more than fluff, AND THAT IS.......TO GO POUND SALT!
Of course, there is another possible explanation....that it is just a lie....but that leads us right back to being sad and/or pathetic anyway.
*** I'm done now. And to ensure that there is no more beating of this dead horse, I'll now put you on ignore. Not sure if it notifies you or not if you try to respond henceforth, but regardless, I won't see it, so it's ended.
Have a nice life...
the sad, pathetic, therapy needer....... lololol
"This thread started with my statement that the "big boys" steal IP. Your reply was that meant I said "...every single voip service provider out there, small, medium and large are all thieves" which is obviously not true at all. But you then proceed to launch an attack for me saying so."
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You're either tremendously confused, lack comprehension or just habitually twist people's words/meanings. And you consistently do so in ea post. That's not an attack, it's a fact...
The only correct thing you said was about the thread starting with YOU SAYING THAT THE BIG DOGS STEAL THE IP. So I asked you the legitimate question of where do they steal it from. Then YOU VERY CONVENIENTLY left out your silly reply that they steal it from the owners, preceded by your "duh" remark designed to say my question was dumb. It was not, but you are too myopic to realize that. It was a part for the course reply as I was clearly asking WHERE/HOW they get it from. Obviously if originates with the owners or they wouldn't be the owner, now would they. A more intelligent view of the quality estion wants to know how the big dogs go about the steal, which is not obvious like your "from the owners of the IP". It's ironic that you try to make intelligent questions and/or commentary, look dumb. Really ironic... I guess that's why you just left your less than intelligent reply out, in your current post...
So I followed from your answer that the big dogs steal it, that you were therefore saying that it's all they do is steal IP. All of them. That is consistent with you stating that the big dogs steal the IP. Simple.. Now you say it's obvious that you didn't say that.....BUT IT'S RIGHT THERE IN BLACK AND WHITE! You clearly said they steal it from the owners. Now you deny saying it, lolol.
You go on to say that the rest of my post was an attack on you. Lol, where you derive such ridiculousness is beyond understanding. In no way was the rest of my post an attack on you. The rest of my post, as I recall, was me delineating the the implications and the fallacious outcomes, that would be evident if the voip service providers indeed did steal the IP and then spend many years infringing. They were logical and sensible well thought out scenarios designed to show the falsity of that claim you made about the big dogs, NOT, AS YOU SAY, AN ATTACK ON YOU. The attack, from a discerning mind, was against the idea or theory that the companies stole from Vplm and have been infringing ever since, which happens to make zero sense, as I clearly spelled out. Attack on you??? Not surprising, I suppose, that you feel such paranoia, if that's your regular way of seeing things. Maybe you don't know what attack means? Who knows what insanity lurks in the minds of ofc msg board peeps?
Let me go look if the silliness stopped there....
Oh wait, 1st, for clarity, I should add that long ago the emu categorically stated that ALL voip service providers were infringing, a wholly ridiculous statement, nevertheless he said it and that validates my saying that "they all steal the IP", which, lol, you seemed to have a problem with even though you say THE big dogs steal the IP from the owner. And, yes, I did hear emu say it. I made perfect sense. I've had 13 yrs or so to perfect these perceptions of mine.
Ok, now back to the rest of your fantasies...
You go on to say everything I say denotes sadness. That is yet one more of your lack of ability to evaluate or assess one's mental state or attitude. Waaay off the mark. I am not a sad person in general, period. You're batting 1000 on missing the mark. Oh, but wait, you then correct yourself and say that sadness was the wrong word and so then you fake psychology by saying it's actually pathetic that I am. You attempt to qualify that by saying I make up facts and it makes me pathetic. I do not make up facts. I always separate what I consider to be facts, from my opinions or theories, conjecture etc. Perhaps you should list the facts I presented that you see, as making me sad and or pathetic. Sounds more to me like a loser who lacks credible points so in lieu, uses negative name calling. THAT.....is what I would call TRULY pathetic, because there is no semblance of you supporting or backing up your claims. That the path you made path-etic. Incidentally, I'm a student of psychology. Suggesting I need a psychologist is the VERY DEFINITION OF GASLIGHTING you are using which reveals who might benefit from some "office visits" because your failure to understand and or take things more accurately, most likely presents you with regular problems. Friendly advice is all.
I think you went on with more of the same drivel but enough us enough. I suggest you end it here as you're so far off base, no way you'll reach home so I'm dropping it here. No point in continuing. If you choose to continue, I'll just do iggy.
Have another day
No, don't stop.......puh-lease don't stop. Keep the entertainment rollin!
BREAKING NEWS!
VPLM to be taken off the market for causing early dementia... Film at 11
Ooh, wait.....shhh......i think I hear more monkey wrenches incoming... Hang on, there's the mailman......gotta go look/see if my shill check came in...
Boy, does Vplm ever attract some dummies. Once again, I need to thank them for providing the entertainment that allowed me to "cut the cord" (ok, ok...I'm lying....theyre not REALLY entertaining.....except to the other dummkopfs, lol). They're on a whole nuther level....
For those with any brains........there's absolutely no need for anyone to "bash" Vplm, except I guess, from those who lost alot and want to curse at Vplm. Understandable. But other than them, no need to bash, as Vplm has been bashing themselves from the git. They aren't here to sell patents. They are quite obviously here to sell stock for huge profit on the backs of the shareholders who propped them up over the years, believing their thinly sliced baloney. And now, the baloney heads bow down to the emu from eGipped. And they defend and pump Vplm. It's fascinating to watch
So you're saying I'm a paid shill. Good thing you're not paid to evaluate or analyze........you'd surely starve.
I expected a more intelligent answer. Don't know why...
Since Vplm or lord emu of eGipped and Queen quicksell are the owners of the IP, then I've no choice than to dub your answer of "duh, They stole the IP from the IP owners", as THE dumbest answer of the year, if not the decade. Either way, it's dumb. It's kinda like saying "the bank robbers got their loot from the bank"... I suppose the question was somewhat rhetorical since no one here, of the many who contended the companies stole the IP, none have ever explained how they did so and from where. I think it's a perfectly legitimate question and an important one. I won't explain why, since I see you're at such an elementary level of thought, it would go over your head, so not much point.
But the question remains for someone who thinks they might have a more intelligent answer as, where and how was the software and coding stolen from? After all, I'd venture that the court, should there ever be an actual trial, which is very doubtful, would most certainly want to know the same answer to that question......and I can just imagine the lawyers saying, as if it's all that matters, "uh....dey stole it from us, mun...i mean judge". Again, a perfectly legitimate and important question that will not garner an answer like yours, in court.
As to the rest of the post being a "noxious rant", the noxious part is most likely you such a smart feller and smelling your own farts. If you can get that part out of the way, then you'll only be dealing with rant. A rant is a long, wild, impassioned communication. Well, it's not really all that long. It concisely points out the various implications that follow from the accusation of all voip service provider companies stole the tech. Each separate point was pretty short and not at all wild. As to impassionate, since I didn't utilize much in the way of adjectives and/or name calling and simply delineated the basic implications, any measure of passion, would be a guess or an added thing on your part. Truth be told, I AM passionate about my beliefs of what vplm really is but not much passion in my post, just legit points that ought to be considered or answered more intelligently, regardless of if you disagree.
There is a good reason why all the guesses and predictions I've made here over the past 10 or 12 yrs have played out to be right, while all those from the pro crowd have clearly and heavily been wrong. Mine are derived from much dd, critical thought, resulting in succinct, unambiguous, cogent and lucid determinations and dot connection. You want rant?......there you go.
As to my points not being about what you said, that depends on how you look at it.
I wonder why Vplm stock is sooo overvalued?
Where exactly do they steal it from? And you are also saying that every single voip service provider out there, small, medium and large are all thieves and not a single honest one? Is that correct? And even tho Vplm has shown clearly that they could not be starved out for the past dozen years or so, not a single one of those alleged infringers, is the least bit concerned about getting massive fines, which are not, over time, getting less, but are only growing higher and higher (the fines or settlement amounts)? And every single one of them ignores the fact that if of course, the patents were truly all that, that they would rake in zillion by just buying and owning the patents. Do I have that right? And not a single one believes for a second, in being fiduciary? And they all are not the least bit concerned about all the successful ipr outcomes? And not a single one of them has even considered even for a second that any one of their competitors could snatch up the patents at any given moment and then they will be slaves to the new owners and lose all that revenue they could have had for themselves. You can explain this all away, no?
Vplm......the most LOW IMPACT exercise machine ever!
Backed by 42 US and international patents and UNPRECEDENTED 701 straight IPR WINS!!
Don't get quart short. Vote Vplm!
That's right...... Vplm......."NO IMPACT ON ANYTHING"
oh yeah, except the insiders pockets
Classic attempt at trying to make you believe he knows something or has info which he does not. Ppl do that to create a false sense of importance. See, you asked the RIGHT question when you asked him to reveal the TEASED info without revealing the actual source and he reneged. You caught him off guard and so he fabricated that bs reply which is SOOOO reminiscent of the writer of Vplm PRs over the years with regard to how slippery and shadowy and stealthy. It's a totally classic bulls hit reply. He knows NOTHING. I guarantee you that. Others here do the same damn thing regularly I don't have to tell you. It's nothing more than a personal agenda. He knows NOTHING MORE than you, I or anyone else here knows because he doesn't possess the agency to know anything more and that is obvious. Totally transparent. He merely wants to attempt to exercise some contrived control over anyone that bites, like you did. Don't be concerned....it will not harm you....its only blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, blah blah.
Not only does it not matter if market open or closed, but time doesn't matter either.....come back in 1 year and everything will be the same... incl the inside being that much richer. Guaranteetolyathat... Go ahead, try it
It's funny.... with respect to vplm, it doesn't matter at all if the market is open or closed. Result is same.
The road to becoming a Vplm stockholder and then joining the message board with commentary...........was.......not........easy!!!!
NYT reports brings you an in depth look at the difficult process:
Funny how the fishy guy gets flak for using all caps but you won't. Funny how that works...
What's funny is that they will admonish the fishy man for using caps but not you. Hahaha funny how that works...
If you're gonna pose the fact and the question, why not posit an answer at least your opinion as to why. I seem to remember from waay back that there were other, more positive benefits to those incorporating in Nevada. I just can't remember what they are....something to do with taxes perhaps?
Pardon me for saying the spread was coming back. It looked that way for like 1 day, but now back to near flatline. Shame on this mess.
I'm quite certain of what will happen. There will never be a sale, settlement (a real one) nor a win for this share selling, madoff would've been proud, farce. And my best guess is the bs and lack of shareholder win will continue for about 5 more years (I predicted 10, five yrs ago).
Many if not all the signs point to bogus worthless patents (well, by definition, they have proven to be worthless since created about 15 yrs ago or more)
I wish and hope I am wrong....for my own sake and that of many others apart from the abusive name callers, and would he overjoyed if it turned out I was, but obvious is obvious and human nature is human nature. And again I ask, if you had the money, would you buy or have bought the patent suite?
Nice to see the real time chart back after about a week long hiatus..
"The truth is these board mean nothing and 90% of what is written here is meaningless. The only thing that is important is Greenback and others that post trial information"
That's your opinion and it's wrong, however if it was true then you should apply it to yourself. And obviously, you read all the "meaningless" posts, otherwise you wouldn't know to call them meaningless. Disingenuous. And you say all this stuff which is somewhat all over the road (this is good, this is bad, this is maybe, etc etc) and alot of it seems to want to point to an implied conclusion but you never do draw any conclusions from what you say about the company. Mostly, you point to all these negative things by the company which I agree about but then you fail to nail down what the implications point to.
If the company is for real and the patent what they have been cracked up to be, then the selling and lack of communication points to scam, period. If it's a self serving scam then what the point of talking about trials and dates or anything positive. You're all over the road and don't know where you're going. You wanna bitch about the selling but don't even begin to surmise why they do so.
The obvious common sense look, is if the patents were so fundimental to the operation and continuance of voip and worth countless billions, then 1) Vplm would have kept its promise to fold the tech into their own alleged voip service provider platform and become the king of the hill in that regard and maybe even a monopoly that would've eventually had to be broken up......OR 2) been bought up by one of the big dogs who not only would reap the gargantuan benefits, but at the same time protected themselves from the INEVITABLE incoming bomb with their name on it for infringement damages. That is so obvious Helen Keller could see it, hear it and say it, along with the pinball wizard. It's obvious enough that myself and several others have been able to predict NOTHING would happen here, monetarily, and do so for years and years and be right. The rest of what goes on here that doesn't see that is pretty much the same thing that goes on about about the bible by beliebers. (nothing to do with religion, just another example about a book of claims).
So why don't you either defend Vplm or admit its a fraud? Playing both ends against the middle is confusing, wishy washy and convenient.
Company? Lol. There is no company, as such. There is a scammer with a history, with a laptop who sits in a booth in his pizza shop in the hotbed of pennystock scams, Vancouver, who communicates online with the rest of the cronies, who are in different places in the world. None have ever been to Waco nor is it any sort of real headquarters. Just a cheap rental. There is nothing wrong with any of above as that how smart business is done today, in this case, a stock printing, stock selling, personal insider ATM, successfully executed for years and years behind the "STORY", the facade, the mirage, so craftily conceived and still in good working order for years to come until the madoff style house of cards gets blown away with all your monies, except for those who were smart enough to swing trade it to profit, as I did almost too late.
It's babs, emu and Chang in MARS ATTACKS! (we are your friends)
The only ones in the patent buying mood, with regard to the Vplm patents......
were digi-phony-ca, followed by Vplm, once digi found out they were useless in the real world. Then the genius insider ATM plan was devised as lord emu of eGipped, with all the shares he had accumulated, insiduously took over operations. The rest is 12 yr history. My prediction 5 years ago of another 10 yrs of the same ol crap Vplm dishes is now down to about 5 more yrs. Yall can do it standing on your head. Just keep repeating......emu is lord, emu is lord, emu is my shephard......and barb is da boss, barb is da boss, she maketh da big bucks, she restoreth her bag..... and patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue, patience is a virtue.....Vplm is in best position EVER, vplm is in best position EVER. Keep repeating and everything will be everything....... Until it's all over in about 5 more yrs and you move on a little or alot poorer.
Oh ok, I get it now. You think that the right to voice your opinions is just an American thing but you being Canadian, doesn't apply to you. Got it.
I'm not irritable in the least... And I don't "bash" Vplm, I simply tell the truth as I see it. You're just one more case of being a poor judge of character A basher, at least in my definition, is someone who posts negative just for the sake of doing so or they could be a shorter as well. Or I suppose they might think they could bring the price down so they can buy cheaper. I'm not part of any of that. I've provided around 12 years of opinions, facts, dot connecting, logic, critical thinking and dd, to support and backup my negative sentiments about this so called company. If you haven't read that body of info, there you go and if you have read it all and come to your negative conclusion, again there ya go. I find it funny and interesting the fact that you have no problem with the other guy thinking it's his place to tell people to STFU. You're basically saying the same so your of the same cut. You have no respect for others opinions that don't agree with yours.
Oh and if it's true that you "can't wait"......well, if you think I'm going somewhere, hold your breath.
Why, so you can tell me to STFU like you tell others when you don't agree with them and obviously think you have more rights and reasons to say whatever your opinions are, than others do? The fact that you feel you have the right to tell others to shut up when all ppl have the same right to voice they're opinion here, tells me why you don't have the capacity to understand the simple point of the Rich "inYA pockets" Inza posts. The moment you think you have the unconstitutional, thus un-American right to tell others to shut up, is the same moment when you, ironically, lose the right to have your questions answered.
La-di-da
Richard Inza
@richinza
@jemimakiss A solution to the EU's fight to end roaming http://businesswire.com/news/home/20130916005454/en
Ok but I was sleeping. Come back later...
Richard Inza
@richinza
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Sep 11, 2013
@jemimakiss Hi Jemima. Were you able to look at what I sent you?
Damn he just followed me into the bathroom....
Richard Inza
@richinza
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Sep 10, 2013
@jemimakiss can I send you info on a company thats going to disrupt VoIP industry with issued patents? Led a FT's 8 to know in telecom
he ain't nuttin but a HOUNDdog
Richard Inza
@richinza
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Sep 30, 2013
@jemimakiss my apology. no intent to spam, i thought you had interest and only meant to update you on developments. My sincerest apology
Same guy AGAIN? whoa
Richard Inza
@richinza
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Sep 30, 2013
@jemimakiss Its obvious i've tried to alert tech media to what i believe will be a significant biz story. No intent to send unwanted info.
what, me nag?
Richard Inza
@richinza
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Sep 30, 2013
@jemimakiss I wont bother you again unless you contact me about it. Again I am very sorry.
Sound familiar?
Richard Inza
@richinza
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Sep 30, 2013
@jemimakiss Hi Jemima, Voip-Pal 5th patent allowed by USPTO. Stock price more than doubled in the last week. Billion dollar buyout soon?
yeah, right!!!
It appears to me that Vplm is beginning to get some, yet small, amount of spread back, after a period of near flatlining. My advice is if you have any hope of not having Vplm stock as a total loser, work the spread and try to recoup whatever you might and do not count on the patent infringement ship to ever come in.
Oh boy. How exciting! THAT'S never happened before...
Oh boy. How exciting! THAT'S never happened before...
UP again! Must be some kinda glitch. Supposed to be going down, eh?
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