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You are absolutely correct that it is not a "cure" and your points are well taken. However, it kind of makes my greater point in that we are focused on the minutia of the moment with the share price or semantics and lose sight of the fact that this has in fact, been a proven treatment for cancer in animals. This isn't a typical pink sheet issue that is talking in some nebulous concept in the future that will sell widgets etc.. So I'm saying it worked in dogs and other animals incredibly well, so I have extremely high hopes that it will be effective in humans too. That is what we may be sitting on, both in terms of the benefits to society and also, as a phenomenal wealth creator. Thanks for clarifying my previous post though. best to all.
All of this discussion on dates, filings, share count etc., are extremely important and interesting topics to discuss relative to the near term stock performance. However, the only thing that matters is the simple fact that this technology works to CURE CANCER. I'll say it again, we know this technology has proven to CURE CANCER. The share price will one day be commensurate with this proven fact. Thank God you have found such an opportunity a square one.
Well dummy boy has been saying to be patient until September because that's when the bands converged signifying a breakout. Its September!
BTW, this isn't your typical tiny stock where insiders dilute and sell, dilute and sell. This seems like they need the company to succeed because their financial interests are directly tied to the share price and they don't seem to be too eager to sell.
Just my opinion, but I think what is happening here is that as we get closer to what we all guess as a submission window, instead of a runup, we are getting a little pullback because the share base here is limited in number but huge in terms of individual shares. So as soon as someone comes on the board and talks a little doubt because they are getting impatient, even the loyal shareholders think maybe I should pare back a little. The rest of us are probably maxed out in terms of dollars or risk, so there is nothing to offset the small sells from the impatient or easily manipulated. The volume in terms of shares and dollar amount being sold is laughably small and are nowhere near indicative of a knowledge of bad news etc.. If the company indeed followed thru on the FDA suggestions from earlier in the year, there is little reason to doubt that submission is going to happen and be approved, imho. If the timeline slips, as it has in the past, the company doesn't panic because they are in it for the big score. Relax. If it goes to .50 from .08 or from .12, what difference does it make? If you're in this until the submission is approved or denied, then the value day to day is meaningless because its like the value of your wife wedding ring....doesnt matter because you cant sell it anyway.
sells the isotopes more or less. I simply meant the direction for a cancer cure was similar in its basis, as in a proof of ridge approach at the very least. Tons of video on it that explains in a pretty clear way. I referenced to say that stocks don't all rise then retreat as in isr. RDGL next.
If you want to see that a similar technology does work, look at ISR today on a massive selloff day. Be patient with RDGL. Their tech is even better.
nice. For me its RDGL and DKNG. My third is ISR, which got hit the last few days but I added today. Strange after their recent upgrade, but I'm patient.
Agreed. To be honest, parking my money here as the market begins to consolidate has actually saved me money because it prevented me from buying some stocks that have been getting killed. Also, takes away the stress of not being fully loaded and waking up to a tweet that makes this runaway from me while I'm out of my small trading shares. Who would have thought that RDGL is my safety stock lol,but it does seem to have found a floor and moves totally independent of these wild market plunges.
you seem to spend an inordinate amount of time on a message board for a stock that you expect to languish for years and you dissuade others from buying. Its Sunday morning for gods sake. Is your life that empty? lol. Or maybe you just want to buy in cheaper by spreading outright stupid claims , at others expense? If you don't see that this is a completely different situation than from years ago, both technologically and managerially, then maybe you should quit analyzing stocks and put your money back in a savings account.
Look at ISR. huge jump, minor consolidation from those like us who made good money by buying for pennies, then then next leg up. Don't make that mistake here. RDGL won't stop at just 1 or 1.50 when approved.
Not a tweet of a company that thinks their efforts in the area of thyroid cancer are not going well. Bet there are a bunch of people from this morning already feeling some sellers regret. lol.
I have to say, those that thought that the "refocusing" tweet of a few days ago was a negative better start rethinking things before this runs away from them because no company would risk alienating their investor base by these frequent updates if they had a negative sense of the outcome after all of their months of interaction with the FDA. just my opinion.
ok there goes sleep for the next two nights!
Someone sold after reading that tweet from last night? lol. Wow.
couple of more thoughts, he seems to be saying that this review will allow them to blow past things in the first presubmission phase for the ide because of the fda guidance and focus they learned thru this review. Again, sounds optimistic. Besides, even if he was 99 percent confident of the outcome, if he tweets that confidence directly and for some reason, it gets rejected after his tweets spiked the stock, the SEC would crush this. They are really sensitive to manipulation of the pink sheet issues. Im just impressed that the Dr. is so intent on keeping us so informed.
Besides, even if he felt that things looked iffy, he sure as hell wouldn't be so upbeat one the IDE submission, which I assume is factors more complicated. Just read the signs, like repricing the reg a maybe, and realize it may be happening!
I believe the "was" just means they have done all they can in providing the info requested and now they wait, so the process of preparing and revising "was" extremely valuable in focusing them for both FDA applications. I'm pumped! I thank him for just providing the update so we don't panic as the days go by till next month. If they and Mayo just submitted, obviously a descsion, either way, hasn't been made.
We have had only good news this month. When we were at .03, I would have killed to get to .05 by years end. Now, since we hit >28, .09 seems disappointing. Heck, even the employee compensation news in the form of shares was good news. For an early stage company like this with such patent protection and proven technology, that share count was a blessing. Minimal shares to retain the entrenched talent that has taken us to the cusp of fda acceptance. Reminds me of shark tank, where they give up a chunk of the company so they own a smaller piece of an astronomically bigger pie. At this point, with investors getting bored and antsy waiting, all it would take would be one tweet saying thank you to investors and next year is a year of great breakthroughs for our company from the doctor, to send this thing back to the twenties.
I get that but the whole volume today totals about$135,000. this is just noise and trades created by those of us who have held this thing for multiple years and those traders drawn in by the surge in volume that day and by the twitter and board activity. When fda acceptance and real news is official, the dollar volume inflow will overwhelm this thing. Every day on the ticker you can find an example of a .50 cent stock going up a couple bucks. its not like its that rare an occurrence. Ive been patient and laughed at by people I got into this years ago for long enough that a few extra weeks don't mean a thing to me.
This will start to gradually rise prior to years end and as the deadline approaches. I don't think the sell off is part of some mysterious conspiracy but rather its just people like us who have seen giant portfolio gains decrease, getting nervous and pulling the ripcord. Nothing has changed though from when this was in the .20s. in fact, the optimistic tweets and the specific points in the presentation only serve to lessen the risk in my mind at least. now that there is a bottom in and its starting to rise again, the flippers will close their eyes and just jump back in not to miss that one day of life changing gains that are only possibly weeks away. merry Christmas to everyone. we will soon have a lot to celebrate. By the way, my prediction is .15 today.
And now a spread of .018 lol. don't give them up this easily.
3100 shares moves it down.011? lol, that's why this price action means nothing. The presentation next week and the fad review are all that matters. if the price moves that quick on essentially no volume, its too risky to flip or be out of with less than full shares this close to such major events.
If you think a hyperbolic move is ridiculous here, just look at similar stocks, like CRIS, for instance. That jumped on Phase 1 data, and we would be on an accelerated schedule compare to them if our device apps. is accepted by the FDA.
Guys,
A lot of us have held this for a loooong time waiting for this 30 to 60 day period. When you invested I'm sure it wasn't hoping for it to go to .20 to sell. I at least bought because I gambled on a homerun. This isn't a normal pink sheet wannabe. the technology is there, proven, needed and on the cusp of being accepted by the fda, hopefully. .20 is not why I invested so I don't care about the daily swings and I'm too nervous to try to play the daily moves. patience,
I think that securing information during the coming explosion of cloud computing is what drives Wave's value in the next year. This space is also ripe for major consolidation which also might help our cause, though I personally would prefer to stay independent.
jakes_dad
the 3.92 is mine I'm afraid. Just further evidence that I have a hard time differentiating Wave stock from a narcotic. Seriously, I have been waiting for Wave to break that last moving average. Low fours are definitely possible early Monday.
After viewing the youtube videos, I'm guessing he ate it. But maybe its not a hotdog and we are just trying to use up the unsold dongles from the past.
Maybe, but it does hint to me that even if he does need cash, he doesn't see a short term impetus (e.g. HP deal, gov't deal, etc..) in our immediate future. With the market at an inflection point, this is just unfortunate timing, and hurts our momentum. Still optimistic though. Hope the end of the day move on volume portends better news.
Question on the CC transcript:
First off, thank you for your efforts. I couldn't listen live and the written word is easier to absorb for some of us. My question is - was that the entire call and if it was, is anyone wondering why with all the events and attention the company has recently garnered, why only one question from people who weren't just private investors? Are we still that big a secret after all the inroads we've been making?
I'm certainly no chartist, nor, like most people on this board, do I have a very comprehensive knowledge of Wave's technology versus some of its current and future competitors. However, I do have an opinion, and I think looking at the pre market being down this morning that Wave might have violated the 3.12 from Wednesday if not for the news from tsdc. I still think that it may fall to the strong support at 3.0 in the next couple of days, but i really don't care much since I have been holding for years. I also believe that the 5 dollar mark falls within a week or two after the presentation and earnings next week. Just a guess. As to why we flew to 4 plus lately, I don't believe its Wavoids or shorts,traders etc.. or some sinister plan by MMs. I believe it's as simple as the concept that when a CEO implies that sales will easily double next year, the shares begin to ramp up in a huge way. If an established company in an established industry , like Target, McDonalds, JDSU, etc. said their sales would double next year, then everyone and his mother would buy in immediately. Why is it then so unreasonable that a fledgling company like Wave would double, triple, quadruple, etc. when they have been establishing their technology for years in a growth area that is only catching on and up to Wave products this year? Its no time to over think this when we could be at the heel of the hockey stick after all these years.
Am I correct in thinking that if that was indeed Peter posting today, then this stock move must be based on tangible news. Why would he otherwise be posting on this board again if this was just a momo play or a temp type head fake.
Hi guys,
I don't know if some of the old-timers remember me but I have been riding the Wave for more years than I care to remember. Sold about half my position a few years back to pay for my kids tuitions, but otherwise have held on through all of the down times. My wife too, no longer wants to hear about another Wave run-up because she jokingly claims that I have more loyalty to this stock than to her! I don't know why I have been so emotional about this stock as opposed to the hundreds of others I have vigorously traded thru the years, but I have always believed that I had somehow found the next Microsoft LOL. To those who have run down Steven over the course of time, I only can say that I find him to be a sincere man who is trying like hell to find our niche. He is nothing if not adaptable, as he has changed the focus of the company many times to keep us in the game. (Remember the fuss over the dongle?) Heck, Microsoft's crew started withe goal to develop software to monitor traffic patterns and ended up with the most pervasive technology in history, or close to it. To say that the stock won't or can't hit 25 in this or that time frame is to ignore the countless times it has happened to other stocks that hit on a pervasive technology such as Cisco, amazon, Google, etc. If a book seller or a social website can skyrocket, where barriers to entry are minimal, then a security software company like Wave, who has intellectual rights to key concepts, can also run to pretty impressive levels. Is there a market like our product is in where a successful concept is more crucial to business today? Good to talk to you all again. Good luck to all and best wishes.
Orda,
Still here! Still long and strong, or is that long and stupid? I'm not sure which anymore. The only thing I know is that when I first invested, I was waiting for Wave to pay for a fancy sports car and perhaps season tickets to the Red Sox. Soooo many years later, I'm just waiting for Wave to pay off for athritis medicine, Viagra, and the hair club for men. Where have the years gone? Hurry up SKS! I've been thru two Gulf wars and I'm still underwater! Best of luck to all. We'll get there, (or at least the heirs we leave our shares to will.LOL).
Gentleman
First analyst question starts with congratulations. Outside confirmation that I am not delusional.
Marketshare growing. I'll never worry until this stuff sells, but its not being purchased from us. Its amazing that we are still in the technology lead.
Sorry, but this is not typical cool "Spraguespeak". This time it might actually be for real. 25,000 seat customer at 50 bucks per. It that what I heard?
Does the DOD 700 million contract for pay per use to HP, Sunw, etc. referenced on yahoo news pertain in any way to us? Story was up for a few minutes, but now I can only access the title to the article. Any help? Thanks.
Thanks, I'm in. Much appreciated.
Anyone else having trouble linking to conference call? Shut out when we finally turn the corner. Frustrating!!!