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yer right about MS...and IBM too.
Hey ORCL board. Been watching the "cloud" companies and think Oracle is one of the best long term plays...along with Google. I mention the two because I think they will play together in this next phase of the internet as they go up against the MS juggernaut. Trying to catch the dips since I was late getting on board...been watching but not closely enough.
Mackenzian
I am convinced by their lack of action that these guys are crooks of the highest calibre and in the finest Wall Street style...but I bought (heavily) into their gambit and am suffering in silence because I deeply believe they have covered themselves in the gobblety goop of legaleze available the executives who know how to work the system and screw not only their wives (and secretaries and girl friends and probably a few expensive hookers) but their investors as well. whatever...I am pinching my cheeks closed and not letting them get a rear entry anymore...once was enough.
A thoroughly f@$%^ed over investor who really has evidence of a conspiracy...in millions of mstf shares.
Legal and moral are two different ideals. Too bad both are not a part of this companies values.
This PPS is going to stay right here until management wants it otherwise...which leads to...management is apparently immune to pressure to give answers and release information because, for whatever reason, they do not care about the PPS reflecting a "true value" of the company...which leads to...they have been approached enough times by member of this board to know how to respond without resonding. In other words...your efforts are doomed to wasting time and those who have been here a long time (myself included) will not likely participate.
good or bad...wondering how "bad" would look any different?! Even with an R/S, a fraction of almost nothing is still just a little less than almost nothing...or a very little more than nothing. Fun to watch and wish tho. I guess I can sleep at night with a clear head...wonder about the corporate folks in this company tho. Getting more cynical as the weeks (months/years?) pass but still recognize the reality of the gamble here.
Let's hope it is not just another fraudster taking the reins of ownership on that mansion. On the other hand...nice to know our money is being put to good use for someone! LOL.
mack
Google the following and look at the articles....
time limit on going dark with reporting
It is incumbent on the company now to honor the commitment the shareholders made by buying the stock. As I read about it the whole idea of going dark is inherently unfair...evil even. I guess I do not have to live with myself after doing such a thing to people and wonder how this is even legal. Conspiracy theory stuff written all over it.
However...if these shenanigans are... dang...can't think of a good reason for them.
while you are certainly right about positive and all that you also have to remember that some have been here for a LONG time (more than a year...more that two years) and have seen nothing but losses on their balances, heard nothing but silence, eaten nothing but crow. (In roosterdoo's case...eaten a lot of scratch grains.)
I have always contended that this is a very long shot gamble and still hold it as such. Not a large investment but enough to feel good....really good...if it goes. My real money is in an Australian Steel Mill.......but that is another thread.
finally...I am not sure I want "prospective investors" who use this forum as a criteria for investing. Maybe for ideas but if they let a board posting influence their financial decisions...wow...now that would be positive thinking...or is that just foolish!?
AIMHO,
mack
Let me guess...you have become cynical? Hey...look for a new addition to the farm...
Mack
Is that first quarter of the decade? Century? Millenium? I really doubt much will come of this until our national healthcare crisis is on its way to some resolution. I keep thinking this is being set up for the time that efficiency through technology and staffing specialization and focused application will be valued. In the meantime this company is treading water in the middle of the ocean with all kinds of dubious shenanigans while they stay in the deep dark troughs of the waves.
PS Thot about about a really crazy mixed metaphor but...just too salty. ROTFLMAO
PSS...Wouldn't it be really cool to own a billion shares of something...just the number is fun to consider and think of all the toilet paper you might someday have if it goes nowhere? Shit...think of how much you could buy if it does go somewhere!!
Imagine my surprise...
to see the triple aught one.
and we wait.
m
noseguard20
I can see you rolling on the floor laughing as you post your predictions. Thanks for the visual and the comic relief as we languish here.
m
Whitebread15...while this stock is as cheap as they come it is also as big of a gamble as you will find. You might do better to play with some more...um, predictable, stocks with a history of reporting and information you can see and use. In my opinion, this is only a place to throw a few bucks on the very long shot lottery payoff possibility.
fwiw,
m and h
It is just wrong that you would post such without any support, evidence, or justification. Back to lurking...any replies will be for naught.
m
No longer a fisherman nor a windsurfer but still plenty of other activities here in the Columbia Gorge...Skiing, mule riding, gardening, bicycling, hiking, swimming, kayaking/rafting, and the list goes on.
Thanks for the DD. I don't know if you recollect but I have been here a long time...just don't post much and take long breaks. Better to see your successes that way I suppose ( I tend to minimize the fact that I have losses too...lol)\m
Me too...It is nice to look in every few months and see that things are going well. Of course...I look almost daily but watching the long term growth is much more satisfying...
mackenzian and Harley
Ichupp:
Do you get my point now?
m
Hey $oldier...tis a test of patience isn't it!
This sure has been a good place sit and hold...and should remain so. Hey all...just felt like posting. enjoy.
mack n harley.
I like your position. How many more headfakes like this most recent one will we hold through? No immediate expectations but the feeling (gut only) that this one will pay in time....a long time. But, I like my job, house, and have no great needs anymore so I can wait for the lottery. At least I have a "few" tickets!
Back on the shelf and hurry up and wait.
mack
Oh...and fwiw...I have been here about two years.
m
Ichupp: Never said to NOT get excited. Do you have a reason for getting defensive? Have I ever posted anything here that could be construed as wholesale negativity? My point is that this stock has had many high volume days that have pushed the price to .0002, seen a ramp up of elated postings, only to see the price fall to the bottom and volume dry up. I also indicated that I am still holding long and will continue to do so. Finally, I certainly don't need you correcting my postings. Before one starts parenting others posts perhaps he or she should read previous writings and determine what agenda the poster might (or might not) have.
m
Hey folks...REALITY CHECK.
This is not the first time the b & a have bumped up like this...actually I recollect .0003 not too long ago. Yeah, volume means a lot but...it hasn't meant squat in the last year.
Now don't somebody go off on me...been here a long time and will continue to reside with my paltry numbers. Putting it back on the shelf and waiting for health care reform to assert.
mack and his Harley.
Hey seeltan78...not so early, I have been here longer than most. Not jaded either, just realistic. Long shot gamble with big payoff if it goes. Not too much lost if it doesn't. FWIW....I like to play about 10 of these and if one hits per year or so I am ahead and enjoyed the game. My own lottery if you will.
m
flem...still have the glasses and the same clear lens as before. Since I have been here I have cautioned that this is a huge gamble...and still is....altho the odds do seem even thinner than the .00000000000000001 valuation...lol.
m
It is bizarre: Real company, real people, real money, and mostly real potential. That whatever manipulations are made are legal is the epitome of regulatory hypocrisy. It really should be a simple formula.
Make money, pay bills, if some cash is left it goes back into the business and increases the stock value. This adding of shares and diluting the share value is just plain robbery and it is a blatant violation of any moral principle behind capitalism. Talk about giving the Marxists/Communists ammunition.
The only consolation is that there might be a purpose behind that black wall of no information and/or that the perpetrators have to answer to their conscience. Mine is clear and I sleep well (except for those midnight bathroom visits!!)
Sure wish Harley could find some ass to kick down SoCal way.
mack n harley
that's only 4 degrees of separation...wonder if the dog knows Harley? LOL
d
Hey everyone...
Posts are getting pretty acrimonious and are certainly unbecoming of what used to be the most civil board on IHub. It does no good to rail against another poster.
A thought: Keeping in mind the power of assertive communication, try to keep your posts to "I" statements.
Another thought: Write what you want to say, read it and if it is at all derogatory, delete it.
Finally,
Can I say in good humor, my half-ass will kick your big-ass if you don't clean it up!
Love,
Mackenzian
Hey...Hurting for you Roosterdoo but glad you are moving on. A long time ago I learned the same lesson and only play these with "pocket change" so to speak. This one always was the long shot gamble wasn't it? Anyhow, I am still holding all I have bought and will ride it out...no sense in doing otherwise really. IF it does hit...even in a few years...I will do just fine by it. Charts are good on established stocks with known and solid financials. Keep it rolling my good man.
Crow on,
mack
Dang flem, you really write well. Nice argument btw.
d
Hey guys...please let flemsnopes see this...I certainly ain't trying to pick a fight...just the opposite and I don't have private reply privileges...
Flem...I do appreciate your honest, as you see it, posting. As for lingering...of course you will do as you please and I don't hold it against you. I just think you have done a good job of posting your arguments and anymore will just be ignored. I am a bit disillusioned here but also know, and have known from the beginning, that this was a huge gamble and that a small risk COULD be a big payoff. I love my job (actually would continue if I won the lottery) and just do this for fun/entertainment and the longshot chance of some wealth. Half the fun is reading the message boards sometimes. Anyhow, you have always been a good sport, pretty up front with your posts and certainly well spoken/written. so...no offense taken and hopefully none given.
mack
Hey roosterdoo...thanks for the howdy doo. My old girls and the new pullets are now laying like crazy. Have you tried feeding your girls comfrey yet...does wonders for the eggs' richness...even if already free range.
As for that post to which you responded...it was deleted but I don't think I said anything that should have aroused any more than maybe a bit of tepid ire.
mackenzian
cyb...I do and have read his posts. Reread mine to see that I am acknowledging his point of view.
m
flemmybaby....I have to commend you, be you basher or Good Samaritan, on your civil tone, well constructed arguments, and avoidance of retributive name calling. I gather there is a grain of truth to your shared information and an equal grain of possibility of profit. I do agree that examining Walters and his other enterprises is a valid option given that he is, for all purposes, one and the same as MSTF. No one complained when he was held in high esteem by posters and in fact his other companies and associations were the topic of many a post. Anyhow, I do think you have shared your message adequately and do wonder why you linger and continue to post on this particular board. Any altruism you may have manifested will likely be lost in any further onslaught of denigration.
mack
mojo and all...any post on price, movement, value, (and the list goes on with this company) is pure speculation. Ain't that the premise of this board? To share our speculations?
Anyhow, long and patient. Willing to gamble...which is all this is...a gamble.
mack
flem...glad you took it in good humor...as it was meant. You might be right...and you might be wrong. Any stock down in this subpenny gutter is a longshot but where else can you have a million (millions) shares and not put out a lot of cash. Doesn't take but one to hit and voila...no more mortgage. If one enjoys one's job then it isn't a bad way to gamble. If one is counting on the winner...well, that is another post. You do write well and give one pause but...then again, this is a .0001 (2?) stock that shouldn't raise too many expectations and I doubt needs an overseer to forecast our potential misfortune.
Back to lurking...
mack
Hey flemsnopes...I cannot recommend you posts too highly nor say enough good things about you. There is no other poster here with whom I can adequately compare you. Your writing is the sort of work you don't expect to see nowadays and in it you have clearly demonstrated you capabilities. The amount of material you know will surprise many a reader here.
Read this any way you wish...
love,
Harley
And so the kiddie roller coaster goes...little ups and little downs but nothing too scary. Wonder why the big volume didn't pull us up the big slope?
m
bottom in??? touched a short term high of .000000000003 (just know it's a bunch of zeros ya know) with a ton of volume...
Them's the kind of indicators I was talkin' about! Looks like a little movement north on the rsi, a dip and bounce on the macd, and a short oscillation on the stoch and that long term ma might move up.
More optimistic now than in a long time for "soon" to be.....SOON!
Just a rank amateur's ramblings.
m