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This Guy from Forbes selects WindTamer two weeks before the Annual Meeting? Who selected LaLoggia to chime in? Was LaLoggia selected by Paul Marcial or did LaLoggia select Paul Marcial?
Peak Demand in winter doesn't change that much from summer, in winter you are heating, in summer you are cooling, and its business as usual otherwise. If your shaving peak demand with a POD it should reflect that in winter as well as summer. Wheres the data and savings, or does this POD System work better in summer months than winter months?
Merle1283 what is your objective?
Merle you say if they win you win. What about the next 100 million shares they sell dilluting the shareholders of record, then the 100 million they sell after that, all the while quietly selling their hundreds of millions of shares into the market making 80% profit at todays price, where else can they make that return on their money?
Press Releases help facilitate the skim, Kolourkoris, Hughes and LaLoggia are no strangers to this game. Presently it would take the 8 to 12 million in sales Schmitz boldly announced in order for them to break even, whoops here comes another 100 million dilution. Getting the word out through Press Releases helps them draw in more suckers, when the suckers are getting in their selling.
Me and several of my friends are in this, this is my take on whats taking place. whoops here comes another 8K for a capitol raise.
Pump without sales or Number Substantiation? Well said MFerro Post # 5043 and well said Waki Post # 5041! This is the LaLoggia Connection, LaLoggia all of a sudden speaks in this article, why?
How did LaLoggia all of a sudden get selected to speak? Because LaLoggia contacted Paul Marcial because he knows him, thats how LaLoggia got in the article, Paul Marcial wasn't goingto put his neck on the line alone.
Timing: The Annual Meeting is in two weeks and this article pops up all based on fluff with no numbers or no sales!
Kolourkoris, LaLoggia and Hughes, all three have options that are available for trading in June or shortly thereafter, less than sixty days from now?
Now maybe you can see clearly the connection to this article, especially with LaLoggia in the article with much to gain, directed to do so by Kolourkoris and Hughes who have much to gain!
Timing is everything!
List of Questions Going?
LaLoggia chimes in with Schmitz, Gene Marcial picks WindTamer out of a hat to write about? Theres no data, theres no monthly savings talked about at Advanced Glass? A system that cost
$ 306,000 for the POD alone without solar and wind cost fatored in better be doing something, we don't have any independent data on what that something is? Concepts are great, GE doesn't gobble anything up without a proven track record, a proven track record doesn't exist. At the pace product is being sold it doesn't even cover payroll.
LaLoggia the third Amigo comes out of the closet, pressured by Kolourkoris and Hughes? Does LaLoggia know this Gene Marcial from the past? Why is LaLoggia just speaking out now? No data, no monthly savings projections, just conjecture and Gene Marcial blows WindTamer's Horn!
There's a few questions to ask at the annual meeting.
We want the company to succeed without question as we are indeed shareholders. Were not pro Brock, were pro technology.
Xbubblesy your motions are insignifiant because they bare no factual matters other than to point the finger at Brock as the bad guy for the stocks ugly position. Brock offered the technology to WT, Brock offered WT to visit his site at Bigdogs, Brock offered to work within his new company and let them handle the business end as they have been doing, Brock sent them the data that they ignored, no Brock is not responsible by no means.
Xbubblesy your pointing the finger in the wrong direction, but then we know exactly what your doing, your fooling anybody with your " motions. " Brock sent them the technology on a silver platter - they kicked it to the curb, Xbubblesy you and merle1283 have been spewing the same song all along, very very suspiciously, something is rotten in Denmark here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
merle1283 you obviously are quite familar with Schmitz and Saba - lets take a look back at your post #2251 on July 15, 2010 -
What you say in that post merle1283 is as follows;
I think you guys are missing the most important part of the article:
We are very pleased with the improved performance achieved by the turbine to this point, " said Mr. Schmitz. " I can say with confidence WindTamer's value proposition has improved significantly, and now it makes ecomic sense for our customers. I have every expectation that our turbines' performance will continue to improve and its cost to manufacture will continue to decline from here.
merle1283 the above is a direct quote from Schmitz pointed out by you! Now for the second part of the quote.
and
Mark Matthews, WindTamers Vice President of Sales and Marketing, said, "My sales team is now closing sales to the new demonstrated performance that our customers can be confident in. Commercial, multi-unit sales have been delayed primerily because of the product redesign, but we are back on track and I am optimistic that we will close significant commercial and government transactions in the coming months. "
merle1283 the above is a direct quote from Mark Matthews pointed out by you!
merle1283 you are questionable when pointing the finger at us - very questionable. This posting of July 15, 2010 is now going on 8 months.
The units sold since then in Holley, NY, Fishers Road, the customers are very upset and want their money back, but yet in their own words they redesigned ( nothing has changed at all ),
( they improved ) nothing was improved at all.
Nobody is trying to bring the stock price down merle1283, Brock has offered his technology to them, they refused, they refused an invitation to Bigdogs site, and you merle1283 is the questionable one, you have been tooting their horn since your first posting, you are obviously one of them, because you know things they should only know!
We know what your spewing as an inside comrade is to divert the attention to Brock as the bad guy, were not buying any of it, the quotes above say it all, and it was you who pointed them out!
sunnn there is approximately 60 of us out here, investors, exemployees, and many more watching who know what brock is up to, and we like what we see alot.
Mferraro exactly the point you don't understand what you are saying, the point here is that Schmitz stated to the workers of WT that he would not sell another WT unit until they were operating correctly, yet 30 days after Brocks departure Schmitz was selling WT's again! Adeeb Saba was spending money at the speed of light with his new approach! Yet they they are still selling? We out here are shareholders, Mferraro get your own board, we were in WT when you were no where to be found!
Does Knowhow need calling out, you should be calling out WT, not us, if you hold stock in WT it is you who should be calling out WT. We have just posted corrections and facts as we know them, this is much more than WT is doing. Keep your eye on the ball, the ball is WT, thats why we believe many of the postings here are directly related to WT and WT friends as we out here are friends of the technology.
Skeptic81 couple corrections here!
Correction:
You state that Visser validated the information GB gave to him?
GB was designing and implementing the technology, GB had nothing to do with the Data Collected, this was done by engineers and Dr. Visser, only after they were done with their data collection was Brock informed of the results, Brock had nothing to do with the data collection, this was done by WT engineers and Dr. Visser.
This is one of the many reasons we out here must reply to incorrect statements.
AS for new claims, Brock is willing to put his money where his mouth is as he has done since their separation, now we understand that Brock will be putting his money where his mouth is again by filing seveal new patents, approximate cost is $ 20,000 to
$ 30,000 of his own money. Brocks claims have been substantiated through certified world renown data colllection.
We have spotted vehicles at the side of the road, the people inside the vehicles with zoom lens on still camera's and zoom lens on movie cameras. Who are these people, are guess is they are trying to learn something to try and steal what Brock is doing, he and us are aware of that!
Mferraro you were schooled on your scientific insight as pure BS recently. We all know Brock don't want back in at WT, said Schmitz'es and Saba's approach is not the approach he will be taking. He holds no ill will toward them, he is going to do his thing, and they can do their thing, its that simple. He gave them the option of first refusal and they played the third party game with him. They have no third party data on the installed unit at advanced glass, they hav no independent data from a third source as to what the advanced glass system is doing. Show me is evident here " What are the Numbers " at Advanced Glass. Why are they still selling the 8.0 after Schmitz puts out a PR release that the machines aren't working well in the field and that they would be taking a different approach? Why is this consumer on Fisher's Road requesting his money back, why do they continue sell 8.0 WT after they said it didn't work? Many why's here that don't make any sense!
When I refer to we it is many of the initial investors, many of the Exemployees and many just watching the progress Brock has made.
Brock is working on his own with no employees, although that may change in the near future. Show me is exactly what Brock is doing at Bigdogs site!
Waki for the eleventh time we are behind Brocks technology. Qusetion for you Waki - how much did you make off Brock?
Yes your right, it is love, love for the technology and where its going. The technology Brock introduced and gave many many an opportunity to double and triple their investment at a minimum. Now Brock has taken the technology to a new threshold, this is why we all bet on Brock and Brock is coming through as he said he would, Brocks DAWT is a great horse, a great horse without a great jockey will never win a race - we bet on the horse and the jockey! There are many companies out there that provide battery systems, there are no companies out there selling DAWTS. WT boys hired a diffuser expert and tried to mount a WT 60 feet in the air to get WT to perform better, they failed on both attemps. Brock improved the efficiency 10 fold without changing the height or the diffuser, don't shoot the messenger! merle1283 we suggest you find another board if you can't handle the truth!
Skeptic81 go back and read the postings of Exbubblesby, he has atttacked Brock every chanch he or she gets, he or she has attacked what we out here know to be the truth every chanch he or she gets, what goes around comes around. I believe were all not to happy with the derogatory postings of EX always attacking Brock and us, were stating what we know to be the truth, and there are many of us, to call us liars is an attack on us, when someone takes the same medicine their handing out and can't swallow that medicine their approach should be altered. Were excited with the technology and where Brock has taken it without question, and we out here have invested substantially also.
We out here know who has improved the technology and it is Brock and Brock alone. You say you had many questions for the inventer and they were all answered with BS. Brock has always been forthright and honest, we believe your confusing enthusiasm, excitement, foresight, and intellect, your ineptitude to grasp what was being replied to your questions points the finger right back at you! We know what Brock has done and there is no BS involved. Brock did this with his own capitol, he is not the one dilluting the shareholders. We agree with your comments regarding Saba and what the PR really means. Brock is relentless and to say stupid things like your spewing is rediculously inept. We know the truth and its apparent you don't! Brock had this machine putting out 6,000 , 7,000 , 8,000 and 9,000 Watt One Minute Averages all exceeding Betz Limit at Bigdogs friday of last week.
You apparently aren't aware of these milestones unparalleled by any wind turbine on the planet, so we will excuse your jibberish
this time.
Your thinking is the same as everybody out here that knows what is taking place at Bigdogs, its amazing without question to watch this machine in action from what Brock has done with the technology.
Brock gets high Cp values in low, medium and high winds, the technology is unrelenting in power production, a great machine for charging batteries, the best renewable machine on earth for the cost effective production of hydrogen. The changes do not make any noise, you can stand outside when the wind is blowing 45 mph right next to the machine with no audible noise.
Answers are Yes, Yes and Yes. Old production turbines have not changed since Brock designed them. No change in manufacturing is needed. There is no old machine, they are all the same at present, the Cp would be the same as at Bigdogs site when the improvements are complete. From what I understand the change wouldn't take more than four hours at each site, Brock can make the change in 2 hours. these improvements will apply to the smaller and larger units not manufactured. Brocks new improvements are scalable to the larger turbines as well, Brock has proven this without question.
Amazing things are happening at Bigdog's site! Word gets around fast out here, yesterday on Friday, Feb 18 Brock was testing the power capabilities of Bigdogs DAWT with 2 changes Brock has made to the machine, one change is Brocks Airfoils and the other change they will not divulge that because of Patentability that Brock plans to pursue vigorously. Testing the power on Friday one 1 minute average was 9,000 watts with a 1 minute average Cp .64, Betz is .59! Many 1 minute averages at 6,000 through 8,000 watts all exceeding Betz Limit! Brock has this machine at Bigdogs singing! Brock has engaged a University and will hire an independent Electrical Engineering Company that will verify what has been said above without question. Brock mentioned that the Energy Storage method will be the production of Hydrogen!
Talk out here is that lagging news could do what is happening right now, a sell off, as the stock is going down somebody is buying! The nickel people are dumping because the lack of news.
Then Bingo a great news release!
AnonymousInvestor your not far off Brock has referred to wind farms as a market target, also the military powering the bases, the production of hydrogen, plus many many other uses. Brock is now waiting for the new production model airfoils taken from his airfoils. Brock has mentioned that WT will be supplied with the data as will everyone else within 30 days at the latest. Then Brock mentioned it will be on the launching pad with or without WT.
Here's a little English Latin for you; In pine tar is - in oak none is, in mud eel's are - in tar none are, say it quickly and your speaking English Latin. While taking a stroll I spotted a troll in persuit I stepped on a mole all the while avoiding a whole indifferent to what was happening it took its toll dam that troll. Poet don't know it but my feet show it.
Mferraro we will let you question the Phd's in Electrical Engineering in person when the reports come out, start studying now, with what you been spewing with absoutely no knowledge of what your talking about its going to be something to watch, probably on the comedy channel.
Mferraro it is you that don't know how to measure power, you doing it again and you probably not aware of it. You state Brock doesn't know how to measure power - there are 3 ways to measure power at Bigdogs site - the Invertor is # 1 way as a readout is visable on the led of the Invertor that shows the Power In, Power Out to Grid, Watts, Volts, Power Made in 24 Hours, Power Made This Month, Power Made Last Month. In addition to all the Readouts previously mentioned there is a Data Logger taking data every second, there is an Anemometer reading windspeed every second, now all this data from the Campbell Scientific Data Logger that is certified is fed into a program called Microsoft Excel with the headings - Time Stamp, Volts, Watts, Amps, Meters per Second, Windspeed MPH, and Cp Average, under these headings in column format it can be displayed in 1 Second Data, 1 Minute Averages or 24 Hour Averages, or Monthly Averages of all the previous Headings, so this is the 2nd method of data extrapolation. The 3td method of data collection is the 10,000 watt resistor, when the Invertor reaches its maximum output of 5,000 watts the software in the invertor shuts the inverter down and the power being produced by the wind turbine is now going through the 10,000 watt resistor - while the power is going through the 10,000 watt resitor the data logger is still recording Volts, Wind Speed, Amps, Watts because the data Logger just knows that it is recording Electrical Production every second, that is the #3 way to record power at Bigdogs site, and all three of the previously mentioned are recognized as valid methods of data collection relative to electrical power produced.
Mferraro you don't want meet Brock he would school you back to the Stone Age! Mferraro now sit back and digest what was printed here, try hard to comprehend it, and quit spewing non intellect science we can see right through as a total bluff that you are somebody knows something!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Very well put, look at Steve Jobs when he brought in an executive team and the very team he brought in bounced him, the executive team was getting knowwhere fast, the stock was in the dumps, they brought Steve jobs back, their product based improved, the stock went through the roof! This same thing happened with the stock crash previous to the Dot Com bubble burst, companies then to save money cut their Research & Development people to save money, the market came back and these companies were stagnating with no new products and no R&D, these companies learned the hard way. Brock is bringing back the excitment again, regardless of the naysayers.
Mferraro what your refering to as crap is what your spewing. You make statements with some semblance science behind it, but your science is all over the place with no foundation, " that's the crap were tired of ", Brock knows best about this technology, he invented it, he knows more than anybody else regarding DAWT technology. When Brock's reports come out shortly your going to feel quite small Mferraro!
Xbubblesy were looking in the mirror when you made the statement the Troll is wreacking the board, there is no reference to any post, is this a self help thing?
Brock is consistently breaking Betz Limit, Mferraro your finally grasping the whole picture. We feel really bad out here knowing the truth and posters to this board like you try and try again to diminish something great. We feel the naysayers are just disgruntled people and don't like anybody or anything positive, Mferraro try posting something positive, if it hurts or you get sick we will pay the doctor bill. The truth shall set you free.
Waki in yor case I can only surmise a maybe, your the one that said the hell with everybody?
What ever happened to the boy that cried wolf, did the wolf and the boy become friends, or did the wolf eat the boy, sometimes you eat the bear and sometimes the bear eats you. Merle right now testing through a resistor the power coming from the generator and being used by the resistor can be measured without much ado, the data logger doesen't know if the invertor or the resistor is creating the measurable electrical power - the data logger is just recording measureable electrical power - get it?
That was well put on the WT boys with the exception of using Brock as your whipping dog to get your point across. Brock is doing very exciting things with the technology. Unlike you Waki who admitted being out and reccomending other stocks on this forum! Is this board your full time endeavor, do you complain like this and nag around the house? Have you ever invented anything or run any kind of business? I'm sure WT boys are doing what they can at this juncture, I'm sure Brock is doing all he can do at this juncture, their all working hard to ensure success.
So everybody is working very hard, your arm chair quarterbacking and your conspiracy theories are just that without merit, so having said that the hell with you Waki, nag, nag, nag!
I'm sure there is data that is available, although I'm just one of the outside excited observers. I will ask Bigdog if there is any data available, I know that Brock has been making many changes to eliminate the what ifs. From what we heard the DAWT Unit can be evaluated pertaining to electrical output through the very large resistor that is being used for overload protection, it s getting very exciting up there. I hear that 2 University's are clawing at Brock to get there.
JerseyDude: Brock has been making many changes in the month of January to the cowling, programs on the inverters installed, blade count within the machine, new production methods for rotor blades, finalizing the design for the rotor blades with the best output. There are several patents that can be filed as a result, because now there is no guessing according to Brock. Just today they were running the load through the resistor which is capable of handling over 10 thousand watts, and through the resistor the data logger is still recording data, and its over BETZ! The research is close, very close to creating the most efficient wind turbine in the world as has been claimed and proven. A few refinements and let the testing begin. Third, Fourth and Fifth party varification will be supplied to all! Brock knows what he is doing.
Google diffuser augmented wind turbine! The checks in the mail.
Don't quit your day job.
I spoke to Dr. Brock about your post and he laughed: he sais the simplest of test will disprove that statement as fiction when refering to a diffuser augmented wind turbine. Take a funnel with the large area facing the wind and the small opening opposite, air can be compressed slightly, now put a set of rotor blades in the path of the incoming wind, all the wind will spill out, now turn the small opening toward the wind the diffuser will pull the wind into the small opening. Water can't be compressed at all. Try it and get back to us, funnels are inexpensive.
fossildude do some research please, no disrespect but google wind turbine rotor blades. The rotor blades are the heart of any wind turbine.
Money the Easy Answer is Cost; Question for you Xbubblesy, WindTamer in their Press Release a couple days ago stated ------
" the power on demand system designed for and operating at Advanced Glass Industries manufacturing facility integrates one
WindTamer 8.0GT wind turbine, and 3KW of solar energy "?
So your trying to sell us out here that it is better to install a
8.0GT wWindTamer that produces 6 times less power that Brocks current technology??
Were not buying into that argument, don't make any sense at all Xbubblesy, if your going to install the best system available with your sales pitch, how do you explain to the customer that the technology has progressed 6 times more efficient than what were installing, secondly without question wouldn't the new technology utilize the battery storage system to its potential much more than a Tamer much less efficient? WindTamer can't have it both ways. How long is it going to take before the client request the upgrade as the people who own them now are?
Please do a little due dilligence here; The Heart of any Wind Turbine is the Rotor Blades - science 101. I'm going to sell you a Corvette with a Volkswagon carburetor! People who buy Corvettes want the Corvette carburetor, they want the best performance in their Corvette, and they bought the Corvette because they liked the looks of it. Is WindTamer using Lead Acid Battery's with the most upkeep, I don't think so? Don't wash Xbubblesy!