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has anyone seen the new reports posted on Etrade under reports for ATRN? they have been posted recently on 04/20 and 04/20...
If your money wasn't online you wouldn't be posting here, so we still dont know who is toast really wait and see;)
huh?? in gray market?
huh?? first you say it will open in gray market and now you say shorts will cover if there are any. Now how exactly would they do that?
You don't have to provide proof that they lied that is correct but until you do so, your claims are your opinions only and only as good as mine.
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but obviously experience to reveal opinions rather than facts and no evidence beyond doubts is not enough as some posts here suggests.
I would have assumed it's a dead horse if they stopped kicking but then why kicking a dead horse! They could be really afraid that it will be back up again if they stop kicking cause nothing they claim has fact behind it to support it beyond doubts and its all speculation and based on their agenda.
Good luck with you speculation which is based on no facts. I never get into an argument where there is no fact to support it on either side it is a waste of time.
There is no fact that supports SAEI allegation as of right now and all these boards are biased! We will find out the truth soon!
Where is the information on Conference Call?
This is a big fight to be fought and I'm sure SAEI management needs sometimes to put everything together and come out with a solid PR to put an end to all this mess and that could take some efforts on their end with all the negativity.
You are right, please pay attention Prokorov and ONEXIM for that matter have the right to deny the news why? Because it is stated as unsolicited bid. And that's what unsolicited bid means, it is not official, however SAEI wanted to keep the shareholders informed and still stated the offered bid as "Unsolicited".
Denying an "Unsolicited" bid is not a bad news and it's very common in fact, these are just the politics in the business world.
I'm not saying ihub is only bashing! as you can see it is wider than that and a powerful organization is behind it and attacking SAEI using different media to bring PPS down so that they pay less when buying. And I'm sure SAEI management is retaliating, we will soon hear the complete story not just one biased side of the story.
Question for you though. Don't you guys say that there are thousands of these scams in the pinky / otc land. How come this is the only one that make it to so many articles and websites out there? Isn't the scam so "obvious" as you mentioned? Then why posting all the negativity about it? Why is it so different than any other scam out there that you never ever hear about.
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Now would you please answer this, How much was the PPS few days ago before all this organized bashing stories came around? Would you still say 1000% premium?
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Still holding strong! No real evidence of scam yet!
My apologies to everyone who has sent me a private message. Unfortunately I cannot respond since I only login here few times and not posting a lot so I have a free account for now with limited communication.
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You are exactly right!
and of all these scams the Greg Parham conspiracy theory is the worst and most obvious one, and that's why its not even worth mentioning.
The only thing that made me think twice was the Prokhorov denial and it made sense after market reaction and a little bit of thinking about the game they are playing.
This is going to skyrocket soon and when it starts its already to late to even chase at 2X 3X and even $x10 that's why some of us holding here and won't let go anytime soon.
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This a very strategic move by russian billionaire. Here is what I think is happening:
1. Russian Billionaire sends #1 offer under his holding company OXM to SAEI.
2. SAEI gets excited and puts out #1 BID news release.
3. Russian Billionaire sends #2 offer under another company name JRG to SAEI.
4. SAEI gets excited and puts out #2 BID news release.
5. Russian Billionaire denies #1 BID under his holding company OXM to SAEI.
6. Investors learn about denial and stock tanks to 5 cents.
7. Russian Billionaire buys entire float under another company not associated with him, all this during panic period.
8. SAEI gets confirmation of #2 BID from JRG and buyout closes at $2.50.
9. Russian Billionaire now owns all shares that cost him 5 cents or less but are worth $2.50 on the open market.
10. Russian Billionaire dumps all shares at $2.50+ after announcing purchase of new gold gold mine and becomes even richer!
Russians are clever and cunning business people. OL' RUSSIAN SHAKEDOWN!!
It's plain and simple. A company, we don't care who but from Russia, wants to buy SAEI. Now we are caught in the middle of this game.
There has been attacks on SAEI to keep the PPS as low as possible before the buyout to make it possible for them to buy these shares cheap before the buyout, so that once they announce the buyout PPS goes up and their profit goes up thereafter.
Eventually the net price of the buyout for them would equal the lowest price that the company pays for the shares which has started today, hence all the drama and scams after scams against SAEI to bring the PPS low.
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Legal Action Against Internet Bashers
The Company intends to file a complaint this coming week with the California Superior Court in Los Angeles for defamation against 35 John Doe Internet bashers posting on a popular message board featuring the Company's stock. Supatcha expects to act decisively to uncover the identity of those responsible for posting abusive, inaccurate and defamatory messages about the Company.
Supatcha and its shareholders have been harmed by these defamatory and irresponsible messages. We intend to take all necessary steps, including this legal action, to protect the Company and recover the Company's damages. We've been contacted by numerous shareholders who have expressed concern over misinformation that has been disseminated in the marketplace about the Company, and we take this concern very seriously. We will do whatever is necessary to ensure that a balanced, truthful, and responsible presentation of the Supatcha's investment and business opportunity is available to those seeking comments and information from the financial internet message boards.
This message was sent by: Michael Berry, 1400 16th Street, Suite 400, Denver, CO 80202
You can now fasten your seat belts and enjoy the ride!
BUY CONFIRMED!
There will be PR today that will bring back investors confidence while slaughtering the fooled shorts and bashers.
Prokhorov is not involved with the bid as an individual. If they deny ONEXIM (OXM) involvement with the unsolicited bid then I could give it a second thought, but even then the fact that this was an unsolicited bid gives them the right to deny everything. That's why I'm still not convinced.
I'm open to believe in claims with facts. However I realize that most of the claims you make don't have any facts to back it up. SAEI never mentioned Prokhorov as the bidder but OXM as the bidder and OXM never denied that it made any bids as a company.
The statement posted on their website only denies involvement of any individuals (Prokhorov) in this unsolicited bid which is completely true and does not prove anything wrong in SAEI statement.
"A press release by that company indicating that Mr. Prokhorov is involved in an unsolicited bid to purchase shares is completely false."
Mr. Prokhorov is not involved with the unsolicited bid as an individual that is completely correct, However ONEXIM (OXM) bid is still valid until proven invalid. SAEI never said Prokhorov made the bid, the only thing mentioned was that he is in control of OXM and possibly he himself or someone else from the company making a bid under company's name.
These allegations still don't seem valid to me cause as much as you may find flaws in SAEI statement you should be able to see the same flaws in claims that SAEI is scam if you use the same objective view.
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Many shorts on this one, wait for the PR and reversal. This will be the biggest and fastest rebound SAEI has ever seen.
Thats what I noticed first! The link and news is old and irrelevant!
PR coming tomorrow for sure! Wait for that!
Its not a theory use google translator to understand. ONEXIM = OXM in terms of Russian pronunciation and that is how company name is registered in Russian, OXM.
You can also notice by click on the Russian button on top right corner on their site to see the O X M in Russian:
http://www.onexim.org/
Hope this helps.
Interesting English to Russian Translation ONEXIM=O·EEKSIM=OXM
Many of you are confused by the fact that SAEI has referred to "ONEXIM Group" by using "OXM Group".
You might pronounce ONEXIM in English however you like, But there is only one way to pronounce this in Russian and that is OXM.
So in simple words in english you write ONEXIM you read OXM, but its even written that way (OXM) in Russian and most likely how the company name is registered!
Try this:
1. Go to google translator: http://translate.google.com/#en|ru|onexim%0A
2. Type in: ONEXIM
3. Note the results: ???????
4. Click on "Read Phonetically" on right and note the results: O·EEKSIM = OXM
I agree 1100% please don't sticky any link that doesn't have facts to back it up!
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Russian characters are replaced by ????? obviously. Please follow the instruction to see what I mean.
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I'm still holding share and holding strong cause none of these claims about the company being scam is valid in my mind.
Interesting English to Russian Translation ONEXIM=???????=O·EEKSIM=OXM
Many of you are confused by the fact that SAEI has referred to "ONEXIM Group" by using "OXM Group".
You might pronounce ONEXIM in English however you like, But there is only one way to pronounce this in Russian and that is OXM.
So in simple words you write ONEXIM you read OXM
Try this:
1. Go to google translator: http://translate.google.com/#en|ru|onexim%0A
2. Type in: ONEXIM
3. Note the results: ???????
4. Click on "Read Phonetically" on right and note the results: O·EEKSIM = OXM
Hope this clears up the confusion with ONEXIM and OXM.
How come we care about the person "referred" to in PR but not the company?
This is obviously a fake website and I'm still not convinced about the validity of any of the claims you make about the emails, website and any other stories per se.
Open at around $0.20 high $1.30 and $1.01 close!
enquiries@geomininternational.com not working try before bashers find out and fix it!
this is completely scam on their side not SAEI.
How come Gregs email works fine and respond is rather fast but this email doesn't work? Also there are so many empty and broken pages / links on the fake website for "Geomin International" what a shame what some people do to easily get someone's hard earned money.
You are 100% right. This is all organized activities that we see here and it is organized well!
Its a big group that has enough interest to make up a fake website, email, story, etc backed up by MM.
Don't worry though, this will continue until the hands are exchanged and soon they will be on long sides again to ride us to the dollar land.
As SAEI said we don't need to take any actions right now and let them do what they wanna do just dont let them shake you off.
that made my day! lol