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May I respectfully suggest using a different word than "drop" in regard to the 8K's expected in your post. People are scanning hundreds and hundreds of posts everyday. and the mere word "drop" IMHO can cause reflex negative associations. We fear that word so much in these penny stocks. How about "fly" or "appear" or "be posted".
Thanks, cjstocksup.
On the point about how far it can go, I can only say that I believe we will get above .0036 to .0065 in the near term around the next Q or afterward, intermediate term.
Another stock I held for 8 months at .0021 to .0038 recently flew to .038-.05, and has stayed up there. SFOR has a much broader market for its products right now. What I am encouraged about, is that SFOR stock is migrating into stronger hands with longer term horizons, and out of the hands of nervous novices and day traders.
I do not know of any reason it might not be more accurately valued at 3-5 cents, as their sales catch fire.
I will be happy if it reaches 1 cent this year.
That's what I'm saying, and a Thanks for sharing. We all have put SO much time and energy into the investments we believe in and care about and need to do what we hoped for our financial security. Why do we often abandon them too soon? Many are lacking the training and years of experience it takes to weather the natural (and man-made!) fluctuations in price. Even if you have all that, doldrums can work on a person's mind. Hold your course if you can. Trim the sails in a squall if you must. This case, I say, Full Speed ahead!
Very glad to hear this.
The Quarterly earnings and massive expansion of product being deployed is going to get us above the very recent .0041, IMO
There is often a significant run up before a company's earnings announcement, even if there is often a pull-back if numbers disappoint:
I don't see a disappointing Q here, and it could gap up further after a good Q, following an anticipation run-up.
I made a huge mistake recently cutting losses on a stock wallowing in the 25-28 cent range, a stock which I had felt certain about at 50-70 cents. It zoomed up to $3.50 the past 2 days, after revealing criminal manipulation of their stock that included false reports of pending bankruptcy. Was out 9,000, bc I failed to hold that stock, and bought SFOR instead. So I don't appreciate any selling below .0012 nor those gunning for trips again. Why don't you buy the 14's and sell them when they double.
How can one know that for certain?
THANK YOU, PROHET-of-PROFITS!
There was no specific driver to cause the stock to settle from .0015-.0016 back to today's average of .0012. Just the natural fluctuations driven by human psychology after an increase. Or, someone liquidated all or most of their position. Could have been covering a margin call, could have been an estate liquidation, could have been they got more excited about something else, or were afraid of losing any profits or being underwater if they bought 14-16's.
Of course, some very special ones, unlike anyone else, always buy at the exact lowest tick and sell at the exact highest tick, and like to ridicule others whom they deem less clever.
Thanks again. Very helpful, especially today.
Thanks very much for this!
Are you saying this is done deliberately for the purpose of shaking out weak hands?
Sold shares two weeks ago in another company, in order to buy SFOR shares. The other one went up 600% today to the price range I had predicted. So I do really hope SFOR does the same very soon. I can't believe the brightest people in this board all got it wrong...
Once in a while, someone's account gets voluntarily or involuntarily liquidated, death, estate distribution, margin calls, whatever. Or someone impatient just gets tired of waiting and decides to swap out all there shares of one stock for another. I imagine Something odd like that may have led to this dump the last 2-3 days. It didn't make a lot of sense suddenly losing momentum for no obvious reason (except maybe some people as a matter of principle do not like to hold thru a quarterly earnings announcement/report, which some had thought was due next week 5/5). The fall in price below .0014 scared people close to this hoping for accelerating momentum. We need to get back to .0015 and hold it, not be angling and fishing for lower prices.
Did you say you will hold to 0.10? Ten cents?
I'm on the same page!
Whoever is dumping 13's is doing no favors, including to themselves...
Fair enough. Half a penny seems pretty broad consensus.
Sounds a disciplined strategy. Good. Whoever is selling now has little or no understanding of the natural movements of stocks, esp. this one.
I am not a financial professional, so I regret I cannot comment usefully about any buyout scenarios. Would also welcome input from anyone knowledgable, what those numbers might look like.
Good man. I don't understand whoever is dumping 13's.
If persons on this board really believe it will reach a penny, is it not kinda silly to let .0013's and .0014's just sit there waving at you, untouched? Or anything up to half a penny, for that matter, which would be a double?
Wow.i'm gonna try them when I can.
The OTC website does not have L2 for this one, I think? On those sticks that I can see L2, it only shows the best bid or ask for each place with shares available. Currently in between desktop computers, so I cannot see much by way of L2 from any trading platform right now.
Question: anyone know where you can see good L2 info on a mobile device?
Interesting. The scope for manip is huge. Have felt something wasn't quite right since Monday... Like somebody's "oh cr_p, I missed the bus!!" remorse, so trying to rig the price back down.
News flash: the price is .0036.
The oracle has spoken.
High-speed algo probably auto-outbidding your buy and sell orders by .00001, so your's doesn't show visibly. There was a 5 million ask at 13 that showed up and dropped off at my broker, late in the day. I thought someone had bought them. Btw I think you are selling too cheaply, IMHO.
Please let us know if you find out...
I'd feel like I was elbowing my way in front of others at a buffet table, to get to the best dishes, if I added any more 13's, so please, don't just let them sit there... My will power is not that great
That sounds exactly right to me, too.
Today's behavior in SFOR is typical since the 4/15 lows... 1 strong day up, two days pullback. Stair-stepping slowly upward, in general. This is the second pullback day. Therefore, Tomorrow, the 13's may look very cheap, when the stock hits 18's. I think it will this week or early next. Early May magic + expected positive trend in Q, which is soon.
How do they do this? Sell to each other at unreal low prices by timing their orders and routing/exchanges very closely, then divvying up the money privately, so none of them really loses by selling too cheap, but they accomplish getting many more shares dirt cheap by scaring retail investors? I'm fascinated how these schemes are accomplished, bc i know they do happen. Would a potential buyer of the company have motive to crash the stock price?
Speaking of WHALES... Must see movie "In the Heart of the Sea". It's the 'Story behind the story' of Moby Dick, but ends with the mid 1800's discovery in Massachusetts that oil could be obtained by digging under ground, and didn't need to come from whaling. The evolution of human technology and how very historically recent much of it is, is fascinating.
APPLE losing 6-10% at various points today, post-earnings, has a huge effect on the tech sector. The panic spreads. This drawdown today is not about SFOR, per se.
Isn't it strange, to own 25-30% of the daily volume, of a company receiving as much incessant attention from brilliant people as this one?
What does this have to do with protecting keyboard strokes from Wifi interception / hotspot interception, or interception using any Other network Than theirs?
Ha-ha.
FB is becoming excessively invasive of privacy, and as I see it, they are clearly engaging in offensive and intrusive social networking analysis that could cause problems for a user. For example, maybe you have one acquaintance on FB because of some similar hobby or interest, such as, s particular rare dog breed. Well, that connection might lead to one of THEIR friends -- who may or may not share the interest or hobby -- to invite you to be "friends" with THEM. You do not have a clue about these "friends" twice removed , but you accept the "friend request"
just to be nice. What you don't know is that one of the Friend's friend's friends is, for example, an Afghani or Iraqi or Serbian fancier of the same dog breed, who has, in turn, acquaintances of unknown political affiliations and activities. Well, this is where everything in your life can "go to H_ll in a hand-basket", and you could become a suspected terrorist, because of FB. It may be from THEM that we especially need to hide our keyboard activity...
Is this why we need Strikeforce?
I really wish you never mentioned FB...
Hat's off to dranesthesthia1!
One of The Truly Useful Group
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it would only take about $200K to move this to to .004. Maybe it would take twice that, one cannot know how many sell orders between here and there, but a joint rush could do it. This needs to get above .004 and stay there, if it wants to attract investors to help bring it to 5 cents. Seriously...
I saw that move from .004 to 5 cents recently on another stock that does not have as much as SFOR has going for it...
But some MM's out there, whether they have that official title or not, really need to stop jerkin' around down at these ridiculous levels.
Hat's off to dranesthia1.
One of The Truly Useful Group
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it would only take about $200K to move this to to .004. Maybe it would take twice that, one cannot know how many sell orders between here and there, but a joint rush could do it. This needs to get above .004 and stay there, if it wants to attract investors to help bring it to 5 cents. Seriously...
I saw that move from .004 to 5 cents recently on another stock that does not have as much as SFOR has going for it...
But some MM's out there, whether they have that official title or not, really need to stop jerkin' around down at these ridiculous levels.
2-hr chart shows bullish diversions
SFOR
What I feel, is that a few guys are quietly putting all their pennies together in a big jar, and that when you blink, they are gonna buy up all the shares until we have a new support zone above .004.
I think the new developments fully offset the dilution, and that in the near to intermediate term, the dip below .004 is going to end up looking like a false breakdown on the charts.
Just my "2 cents worth"....
.0014-.0015 was an important level to maintain. With all the posting on this board, and all the DD posted, I'd like to see more conviction in buying and a return to baseline level above .0022 and working back to that .004 mark...