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How do they do this? Sell to each other at unreal low prices by timing their orders and routing/exchanges very closely, then divvying up the money privately, so none of them really loses by selling too cheap, but they accomplish getting many more shares dirt cheap by scaring retail investors? I'm fascinated how these schemes are accomplished, bc i know they do happen. Would a potential buyer of the company have motive to crash the stock price?
Speaking of WHALES... Must see movie "In the Heart of the Sea". It's the 'Story behind the story' of Moby Dick, but ends with the mid 1800's discovery in Massachusetts that oil could be obtained by digging under ground, and didn't need to come from whaling. The evolution of human technology and how very historically recent much of it is, is fascinating.
APPLE losing 6-10% at various points today, post-earnings, has a huge effect on the tech sector. The panic spreads. This drawdown today is not about SFOR, per se.
Isn't it strange, to own 25-30% of the daily volume, of a company receiving as much incessant attention from brilliant people as this one?
What does this have to do with protecting keyboard strokes from Wifi interception / hotspot interception, or interception using any Other network Than theirs?
Ha-ha.
FB is becoming excessively invasive of privacy, and as I see it, they are clearly engaging in offensive and intrusive social networking analysis that could cause problems for a user. For example, maybe you have one acquaintance on FB because of some similar hobby or interest, such as, s particular rare dog breed. Well, that connection might lead to one of THEIR friends -- who may or may not share the interest or hobby -- to invite you to be "friends" with THEM. You do not have a clue about these "friends" twice removed , but you accept the "friend request"
just to be nice. What you don't know is that one of the Friend's friend's friends is, for example, an Afghani or Iraqi or Serbian fancier of the same dog breed, who has, in turn, acquaintances of unknown political affiliations and activities. Well, this is where everything in your life can "go to H_ll in a hand-basket", and you could become a suspected terrorist, because of FB. It may be from THEM that we especially need to hide our keyboard activity...
Is this why we need Strikeforce?
I really wish you never mentioned FB...
Hat's off to dranesthesthia1!
One of The Truly Useful Group
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it would only take about $200K to move this to to .004. Maybe it would take twice that, one cannot know how many sell orders between here and there, but a joint rush could do it. This needs to get above .004 and stay there, if it wants to attract investors to help bring it to 5 cents. Seriously...
I saw that move from .004 to 5 cents recently on another stock that does not have as much as SFOR has going for it...
But some MM's out there, whether they have that official title or not, really need to stop jerkin' around down at these ridiculous levels.
Hat's off to dranesthia1.
One of The Truly Useful Group
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think it would only take about $200K to move this to to .004. Maybe it would take twice that, one cannot know how many sell orders between here and there, but a joint rush could do it. This needs to get above .004 and stay there, if it wants to attract investors to help bring it to 5 cents. Seriously...
I saw that move from .004 to 5 cents recently on another stock that does not have as much as SFOR has going for it...
But some MM's out there, whether they have that official title or not, really need to stop jerkin' around down at these ridiculous levels.
2-hr chart shows bullish diversions
SFOR
What I feel, is that a few guys are quietly putting all their pennies together in a big jar, and that when you blink, they are gonna buy up all the shares until we have a new support zone above .004.
I think the new developments fully offset the dilution, and that in the near to intermediate term, the dip below .004 is going to end up looking like a false breakdown on the charts.
Just my "2 cents worth"....
.0014-.0015 was an important level to maintain. With all the posting on this board, and all the DD posted, I'd like to see more conviction in buying and a return to baseline level above .0022 and working back to that .004 mark...
Well, they raised $100,000 in funds today. Hope they put it to good use to create revenue. Raw materials for T-shirts? Advertising?
Geeezzzz
Those sitting at .0012: if you don't think it's worth .0015, you probably shouldn't be buying.
Those buying at .0012, not helping your cause... Try .0015 and see if you don't get what you want much faster.
What just happened today, some new dilution???
We don't have so many selling. Volume is relatively very low. Very low. This causes some nervous nellies, and some algorithm based trading software, to sell. Nothing to do with fundamentals or reality. Much of the float has changed to stronger hands who are not selling, so volume drops, which causes some to make mistakes and sell too soon.
You don't have facts to back up what you are saying. If I'm wrong in that point, present them now, please. MOST companies have as AS greater than OS. Pleeezzzz!
That's the key, I think.
I think getting above the cloud cover at .0015 and continuing to cruise at or above that altitude is key. Those that need constant excitement or feel it plateaued will then move on, maybe not even wait for the Q. Fearless buying out the 15's is probably
going to be required. And by strong hands.
Recovery to .004 now, is the only pattern that makes any sense to my mind, all things considered...
Perhaps a Monday "wait and see" atmosphere before a few wise ones, post-huddle, rush in and crush the ask!
Strongly agree.
What parameters do you like to use on BBands?
Thank you very much for sharing these views. I would not be surprised the technology and patents are worth 1.6 Billion, given what is stolen, wasted, and misdirected via identity theft and hacking -- and the costs of associated investigations, not even to mention corporate espionage -- the costs of unauthorized access via computer hacking, and attacks on insurers, banks, and government systems that Strikeforce technology can play a role in reducing vulnerability to.
As Crocodile Dundee would say, "Good on ya, Mate!!"
Re: maz1978 Post# 51511
Seriously, the important people on this board now easily control at least 2-3 days or more of the entire daily volume. I respectfully suggest we set our sell orders at the 52 week high, set them visibly (not "all or none") and then just see if the high speed algo trading programs don't begin to twig how we feel about our company. We can restore value!
I was astonished to see that on a 3-year chart, shares were valued at HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS of dollars. SFOR's intellectual property was being ripped off early on, when they were a vulnerable company. That has been turned around now, albeit at great cost to the company, but the hemorrhaging has been stopped. I say the company deserves to be AT LEAST the 75-81 cents that it was trading at a year ago. I say the settlement and the cluster of strong positive developments recently, now fully offset the dilution that had been required to get rid of the greedy self-serving toxic lenders. Let's show them now. We still have a pulse, and together we now have real influence if we hold our shares. It is undignified and wasteful of our VALUABLE TIME, to allow gamers to subject us to watching 1 tick fluctuations going out to 4 decimals. Let us show them we are SO DONE WITH THAT! I suggest we set visible sell orders, in the range we earnestly believe they deserve to be valued, which frankly is several orders of magnitude above the insubstantial confetti floating around right now.
We have the power to change the game. And we have put in enough time "in the trenches" to deserve that our efforts see daylight.
But did they blow away?
Seriously, the important people on this board now easily control at least 2-3 days or more of the entire daily volume. I respectfully suggest we set our sell orders at the 52 week high, set them visibly (not "all or none") and then just see if the high speed algo trading programs don't begin to twig how we feel about our company. We can restore value!
I was astonished to see that on a 3-year chart, shares were valued at hundreds of thousands of dollars. The intellectually property was being ripped off, from a vulnerable company. That has been turned around now, albeit at great cost to the company, but the hemorrhaging has been stopped. I say the company deserves to be the 75-81 cents that it was trading at a year ago. I say the settlement and the cluster of strong positive developments now fully offset the dilution required to get rid of the greedy self-serving toxic lenders. Let's show them. We still have a pulse, and together we now have real influence if we hold our shares. I suggest we set visible sell orders, in the range we earnestly believe they deserve to be valued, which frankly is several orders of magnitude above the insubstantial confetti floating around right now.
We have the power to change the game and wipe out any short sellers.
C'mon 14's and 15's... Trade or Move!
Get off the sidewalk! I'm comin' thru on my roller skates! High speed with no brakes! Cannot be responsible for what happens if you don't get out of the way!
I'm with you on SFOR.
The other zoomed on news of an acquisition today.
Yes, don't underestimate the importance of stabilizing above .0015. .0018 close soon enough.
Weak hands selling at .0015: Mistaking new support zone as resistance. No. Moving to .0022...
.003-.004 would be brilliant!
Expect strong resistance above 20 cents.
What a great idea!
John Kent, please, if you would explain, when you say, "not with the notes coming due and lack of revenue..." What are you saying, exactly?
Thanks, d0lphint0m
Nice charts at FreeStockCharts.com but they are 15 min delayed unless you spend a bit for real time. They work better for me visually than most.
Thanks, d0lphint0m!
Do they have good real-time charting on their basic website, or does one have to use a Windows platform to use their active trader features? (Feel slightly cursed at times being a Mac user when it comes to trading platforms, and intimidated by all the Windows problems, rather would stick with Mac and not have to use virtualization software if possible. Tried it, but was a real hassle...)
Do you get good fills, and good options for directed routing at Ameritrade?
Thanks again for your time to respond.
SFOR of course is the main subject here, my apology that I do not have private message capability.
Multi-penny. Yes. Let us pray.
Thanks!! Bobinsd, Tonyeight, Exploreit, and osbuser, for your helpful comments about good brokers for penny stocks.
Are they also good at providing news feeds for their stocks, even the OTC ones, and are the news feeds accessible on their mobile app?
Finally, do you have to have to open a minimum account of $25K to be able to use their active trader platform /services?
Thanks again!
Naaaa... No fun celebrating alone!