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I was trying to be non-direct when talking to them, not to get them defensive and shut down. Ill try being more directive if it pleases you old man rivers. But Ill need your help, what could I expect from them to be actually able to give me in forms of their finacails? And why would they want to if not obligated? Are they obligated? Im just asking if I have any leverage to use.
I just dont want to get into it with them and come off like I have down syndrome.
Angles of the Valley Hospice serves like 60 people total, and each visit (thats in one day) they bill who ever insures them 150 dollars. They visit patients at the very most five times a week. So doing the math just to get a ballpark income best case scenario 150x5 is 750(thats one persone for one week) times that by 52 you get 39000 for one person a year, times that by 60( the number of people they serve you get 2340000. Thats best case scenario what they make in a year. This does not calculate their expenses, paying their employes ect. This is just a ballpark income I calculated for the best case scenario they bring in for a year, not net worth. Not that great but sure the hell isnt subpenny caliber. There is GREAT potential though. Just think if they get like 120 people to serve, or even 300? But again if SKTO never reports then we will never know for sure. Billing SPC (the other company in SKTO) for the most part doesn't really do anything, and from what I can tell doesn't make any money.
Totally agree Bloodless, good old boy Henry will make me rich one way or another. GO HOTI! And to clarify I did not go to the Promise hospitle, I just called them for I am in Iraq ATM. I will be in the states in two weeks time, and will have a month off for travel. I will dovote most of it to hitting this company hard wherever it is weak, im good at that. If she still stands then GOOD! If she falls then fine. But either way this will probably be my last post I have no other use for this board.
Thanks to everyone on this board I have learned so much form you all, and can not thank you enough. You all have made me a better "trader" by giving me priceless information about how this "world" operates.
good luck to all, and God bless.
I could not confirm or deny Sunarais's operation at Promise Hospitle, the receptionist didn't know anything about it, but there was also a heavy languedge barrier. Any one that knows spanish is welcome to try again. Also not knowing the stage of the production the receptionist might not have been informed. But there is definitely no Solar Panels on the roof as of now.
Hey Im not here to hurt peoples feelings on purpose. But I am here to find truth, and I am a very blunt/honest person. Now by R/S do you mean reverse split? From what I understand it is a 3 share dividend of AEGY for every 1 share you have of AEGY. Now that would explain the price drop, but unfortunately AEGY has not given the shares from the split to anyone yet. As I said before I dont know much about the market but as far as a split goes does the split happen before the shares actually make it to the investors, and that would explain the stock drop? Or will the split it self be in effect the 20th of july like Liquidate said on the AEGY board, and the price drop had nothing to do with the split?
P.S. Thanks for the info as alway!
Hi, Im not a AEGY stock holder but I am a SKTO stock holder. My question to you is can some one that holds AEGY stock verify for me that you actually recieved the shares from the split? Thank you.
You took over a free account by talking to IHUB attorneys? And this free account only posted on HOTI related boards... Did the attorneys say it would probably just be easyer to make another free account under your new alias instead of bugging them? Hey but I'm new to this IHUB thing I might be missing something, who knows...
P.S. thanks for the 101 btw.
So has Bloodless ever recieved that death cert? And when did you change your name from DollarAtaTime or what ever it was?
Im not going to bash AEGY, it will bash it self into the ground. Im glad they have 400000 thousand dollars to spend on a payed promotion thats great! But I'm guessing they will just let the naive investores buying into AEGY pay for it like I did for SKTO after their pump a year ago... HAH! Im seeing the Circle of life in the penny investor world more clearly now. Well the only thing of substance I saw in the pump was this. "AEGY has launched a solar-thermal energy program targeting the healthcare sector.
Work has already begun work on a pilot installation at Promise Hospital of East Los Angeles". The Hopital is real, their number is (323) 261 1181. I will be calling them today to confirm they purchased solar energy from Sunarais. Ill probably drop HOTIs name in there to see if they know of them. Since HOTI's HQ, and Promise Hospitle are only 30 miles away form each other. Might get lucky there who knows.
P.S "The time to take a position with this under-the-radar energy(SKTO in my case) stock is now, before Wall Street catches on!
When they do, and you can bet it will happen soon, analysts and brokers will trumpet the news, causing demand for the stock to increase and price to climb through the roof."
Hah, now I heard that before. Get me once shame on you, get me twice shame on me. Funny this type of talk is a clear sign to short the stock. Ironic huh?
Ok so I get back to the states in about 20 day, and will have a good amount of off time on my hands. I want to devote some of that time researching HOTI putting "Boots on Ground" so to speak. Where do you think my time will be best spent for about a weeks worth of DD? Im thinking of acctually doing a face to face wityh Lilly, and or talking to this Hipple guy if I could track him down, because honestly I think he has a big impact on this stock (SKTO). Just by reading his bio on Regentech it seems like he is a shadey dude with alot of connections, but good for what he is for I guess. Every ones just trying to get rich right? Any other thoughts on locations or people to make a face to face to?
P.S does Lilly even have an office? I sent an e-mail but she never got back. And yes I know the HQ for HOTI is a Skyhill living houses that Henry Jan has... May even be his house LOL. So get this if I rent out the Skyhill living house that is HOTIs head quarters would that be considered a hostile take over, and would I be in control of the company?! (JK)
I just hope they don't feel the need to screw us on the pps of this new stock. Now with a RM what price would the new stock take? Or since its a private stock they can pretty much price it as they want?
Thanks for the info natural. I think then the only thing we can do is force a SS from them, some how. Didn't Blood say there was a legal way for a judge to make them give it out? I think we can all agree that the SS is the key to this stock's future for investors like us. I dont know about you but Im not one that likes to just sit in the dark, and be played.
On the flip side would the SS release before SKTO wanting it to have a negative effect on their plans on accquiring more companies? If there is no negative effect for SKTO releasing their SS then why keep it secret? This is something to think about. I don't know any thoughts?
Ok I read some SEC Insider rules. From what I understand its only confidential information from their employers. The only thing confidential is the share structure right? If there is dilution they would have to submit the SS before the insiders can act on it right? OK, so hear me out. SKTO waits for the desired PPS, and then releases the SS. After that Volume goes way up because the insiders can act on it, and the PPS goes up with it making them loads of money. Does that make sense, or am I missing some thing that would still violate SEC?
ok I miss read your post, sorry. Where is this regulation that you speak of? Can you link it? And how many loop holes are in it?
If you don't think the company is manipulating the stock then who? Because this is not the true price of it for sure.
I'm just trying to figure out what this company is trying to do, thats all.
According to AEGY HOTI is already above a dollar.
According to the merger filing, the Healthcare of Today shares are worth $300,000 based on an implied per-share value of $12.
http://reversemerger.dealflowmedia.com/wires/article.cfm?title=Solar-Energy-Co-Completes-Reverse-Merger&id=frysekuvxfxbdkp
or did you mean SKTO? Your argument really doesn't make any sense. How would the father company HOTI buy a company with less share then the company gave HOTI when HOTI's shares are priced less then the company bought?
The share exchange took place in two separate transactions. On May 5, Healthcare of Today acquired 25 million shares, or a 57% stake, in the shell company Alternative Energy Partners Inc., in exchange for 25,000 shares of Healthcare of Today.
25 million shares(AEGYstock) for 25,000 shares(HOTIstock)? Either AEGY is really bumb, or you are really dumb. You choose...
AEGY (HOTI's energy div) is ten cents from a dollar per share. From what HOTI said about SKTO being the main engine behind HOTI there is no reason why it isn't also at around a dollar. The only thing I can think of is HOTI is driving the price down (some how) to let all the insiders get an amazing price. That is the only thing that really makes sense to me. Truthfully the whole scam thing just flat out doesn't make sense, if HOTI wants to make money off this stock why do it by driving it down to the ground diluting it with all these companies that are apart of SKTO just letting them? From what I understand they are still Acquiring companies at a good pace. You would think the word would get that SKTO is a black hole for companies, and they wouldn't be able to acquire any more. Seeing that they just acquired that school just several days ago, this is not the case. Now driving the stock down to magnify their profits makes a hell of a lot more sense to me. Like how everyone else says, too many formidable people are tied up in this company for it to just be a dilution scam. Not saying they aren't diluting that might be one of the ways they are bringing the PPS down, but I highly doubt this stock is just being used by HOTI to dilute. Honestly how much money could they really be making by diluting at this price? Again it makes more sense moneywise that they are just preparing a good "in" for all the insiders. The only question I'm asking my self is how greedy will they get with the PPS before they let it go up?
LRC I am a investor that tracked this stock when it was a dollar, and bought it around there. As far as why the stock fell I believe it was because of the penny stock E-mail spammers. From what I can tell there are two kinds of people who act on these profesional stock pumpers. 1 the green horn investers (me), and the shorters that all jump in at the same time. After every one jumps in its easy to bash the rookie investers away, and the shorters make all their money coming out on top. I'm just too stubern to let this stock go. But from what I can tell at the time this stock was a dollar it was because of how big Healthcare was in the news and the massive volume it had that drove it up. Its actual price at the time should have been a lot lower, and I believe the shorters new this. At the time this stock was one dollar it had nothing to do with HOTI. Months later HOTI came along when SKTO was looking for a Billing Spc, and I guess HOTI liked what they saw and decided to merg with SKTO when it was about .3 ish. All that being said I think I made a good move bye keeping this stock, and can not wait till this one moves to the green. Though I know it might be years till I make any money.