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They don't publically. I retired from a career as a criminal investigator for the DOJ. I have some friends and contacts there which have further freinds and contacts else where all over government and the U.S. All of the statements I made are based upon information received from various agancies. Although they don't comment on details of investigtions publically, they will tell you, if you have the right contacts, if there is NO INVESTIGATION and if someone is not a subject of an investigation.
There is no investigation of BEHL, and in fact, there may be an opportunity here for BEHL to bring further charges if they wish.
Short and Distort scheme.
Read the PR again, it says this, in part:
"Although the Company has replaced the former plastic tubing with highly robust durable plastic tubing (warrantied for 2 years) BioCentric
I can see where your confusion lies.
here is what I got:
"have the newest seamless tubes arrived, and have been installed already? And the system has been sterilized since?"
They had part of the order, thats what that "800 lb" picture represents on their web page.
"In the weeks prior to July 7th, (the anticipated delivery date for the enhanced PBR plastic tubing) the
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(isn't that next week?)"
Thats for the DVJ install.
"Other than the late night flood that occurred a few days ago .. and the need to replace at least two sections of tubing in the same time frame?
Looking at the volume .. I'm not the only one confused by todays PR."
It wasn't a flood per say, but I know what your talking about. They were still replacing tubing, those sections had not been replaced yet at the time of the spill.
No, not really.............................
The aquifer flow is from Nevada as is most of the ground water. We will not dry up the aquifer.
Lets keep this going. Basically; The MM's have to be able to close the books on a lot/price before they can move up. In order for that to happen people need to buy, for that to happen it means HIT THE ASK.
75% of who?
There are over 7000 investors, only about 5% of those post here.
We mention hit the ask. We even said it yesterday. But for the sake of argument > OK people, Hit the ask - Buy Buy Buy!
Tubes are good. Green and ready. Turns were already redesigned. DVJ progressing. Contracts in July. Strains identified, grown, and ready.
There is a description of this over at > http://marketplayground.com/forum/showthread.php?343-BEHL-Intraday-thread-for-Monday-June-21st-2010&p=4637&viewfull=1#post4637
NO, its not going to drain the aquifer.
Evaporation is not a concern, in fact evaporation is just whats needed.
Even with several acres, the PBR space basin does not cover the several acres, it only covers the space occupied by the PBR.
As for recharge rate, there is none needed. The system uses mostly recirculated water for the basins which is circulated from underground tanks. The impact for recharge of the basin cooling is about the same or less then the average home uses.
This post is defamatory, libelous, or deceptive. It is, I believe, in violation of the Terms of Use as outlined in the User Agreement in the section entitled "Member Conduct:, item 1, Where the user agreement specifically outlines defamatory, libelous, or deceptive, things as prohibited.
Don't see it here. Harvest time maybe.
Its not 9:00 PM anywhere in the U.S. right now, so you may have guessed correctly on being in another part of the world.
lochny - my german is a little rusty (who am I kidding, my german is a lot rusty :) but the name used I think is german.
Its a go.
Construction/installation still in progress.
Well, yeah sort of thats on the right path. But infrastructure is a BIG BIG thing, not only size but for complexity and participants. But your right, it is more complicated then just that.
Yeah, well thats a little deceptive in a way. That $400.00 figure includes transportation, man power (fueling a military aircraft is a little more complex procedure wise then just pulling up to a pump or what the commercial airlines do), storage, then take out the government subsidy. Its not the "pump" cost so to speak.
By the way, a side note;
Anyone know what the real cost of a gallon of gas at the pumps is? Its between $15.00 to $17.00 a gallon. Its government subsidies that keep it at the price you actually see at the pump.
Would you like to know what a gallon of algae based fuel at the pump would cost (estimated) without government subsidies? Between $1.00 to $2.00.
According to a certain private company prediction, and without mentioning their name because this is the BEHL forum after all, to quote from their own announcement from April 16 2009; "by 2011, <the company> will be producing 1 million gallons of diesel and jet fuel per year, double its initial estimates. By 2018, the number, increases to more than 100 million gallons annually; and by 2025, the company will be producing up to 1 billion gallons of fuel per year. This means that one company alone will be supplying enough fuel to meet approximately 3 percent of the country’s 36 billion gallon renewable fuel standard."
Its important to understand that in context. Most people read like this:
"blah blah blah ...This means that one company alone will be supplying enough fuel to meet approximately 3 percent of the country’s 36 billion gallon renewable fuel standard."
Then think "Wow!, by 2025 the gas at the pumps will go down and we will be off oil completly. Yipeeeee...."
That is not what that means, thats just for diesel and jet fuel. Considering that:
1. The auto industry has spent many years and a lot of money bringing the internal combustion engine to where it is today based upon buring fuel made from crude oil with the majority of those being non-diesel, and will continue producing such for a while to come.
2. The auto industry would need a major re-tool, costing billions of dollars, to produce engines to burn non-diesel alage based fuel on a mass scale.
3. The current financial disruption has delayed advancements and innovations in every sector of the economy.
4. Government policy for energy needs to be revamped and changed. Without that change such fuels will not be availible for wide spread consumption unless approved by the government for sale to consumers within the governments energy policy. Without that wide spread sell activity and the government policy the companies which would produce that fuel will not be able to profit.
5. Although it is possible to ramp up production via use of government loans, grants, and interaction, it takes at least one four year administration for a very large and intricate policy like that needed for energy to start affecting the economy at some basis, in this case for fuel.
Not trying to burst a bubble here, but even the present company already producing fuel says its still a decade away and they have millions and millions of $$$$ behind them. So realistically, I would not look for it in a couple of years. In the mean while, perfecting algae production for things like Omega 3 now makes perfect sense to start building that revenue base a company will need for fuel production later. Personally, I think algae fuel for everyone is about five years away. BEHL is more economically viable in this respect as their system has a better cost-to-product ratio then competing systems thus allowing for larger profit margins.
Our last chance to do this with algae was with the Carter administration. Clinton shut down the last remaining program for algae from the Carter administration and switched the entire focus from anything else to ethanol from corn (despite the governments own scietists and advisors telling him it was a bad idea and ethanol from corn is not as 'green' as its portrayed - talk about a pork barrel project). This stopped all funding for researches working with algae. A lot of people never noticed that. Had Clinton not done that, we would be on our way to oil independance today.
Now, we have another chance to do this. Not saying that Obama is the best thing since pop corn (I didn't vote for him), but he is willing to consider the alternatives, and algae is at the top on that list.
Just for a little perspective here;
Just blindly saying, or accepting, that Dennis is a control freak as an excuse for deals not being made is deceptive. 98% of deals for start up businnesses fall by the way side and are never realized simply because they are a start up.
Might seem one sided, as does yours, but i'm interested in the business progressing and the future, not someone who chose to leave and is no longer part of that business future. So in a way it is gospel, its the gospel of business to focus on what the business is doing and progression not what has happened.
My own collection of small businesses taught me that many years ago and still today - keep focused on what the progress is, not what has happened that you can't control to begin with.
It doesn't matter if Goodall's departure is negative or not in speculation. What matters is the effect it will have on the business from here forward, and I serious doubt its going to have much of an effect business wise.
You can go ahead and focus on the past if you wish.
Uhhhhh...DF didn't create the "corporate sturcture".
Shen and Goodall did. They are the ones that agreed to and implemented performance based continuation of their employment.
Once again your assume too much.
"When someone resigns that usually means they do not want to be part of the company or project any longer...they want out.
If he had been here for 9-12 month+ then it would have looked a lot better.
If they wanted him fired (out) they could have publically said so. In an assertive way. I have seen this before and IT does help to lessen the speculation and guessing. Example: "...We thank Dr Goodall yada yada yada but his direction and yada yada yada do not match BEHL's long term goals at this time yada yada yada..."
1, When someone resigns its because they want to leave. Resignation is only a formality, its not required, people are free to just walk away anytime they wish, and there is not a darn thing anyone can do about it.
2. If he had been there for 9-12 months, then resigned, you, or someone else would be posting the same stuff.
3. If they wanted him fired, no they would not have publically said so. Not only is it illegal to publically announce the reasons for firing someone (although at times they might be strongly implied), but doing so opens the company to legal issues. No company in their right mind publically discusses the reason for firing someone.
4. It does nothing at all to lessen speculation. In fact it only increases speculation even if it might ease your own speculation.
5. Goodall is no longer part of BEHL. The forum is for BEHL discussion and not for discussion of individuals. Thus Goodall is not on topic for the forum technically. Perhaps if you ask the admins they will set up a Goodall forum for you where you can receive much more focused attention to your subject which would be better then you speculating off topic here.
You assume too much. Its over. The business progress is the important thing.
Provided that an Omega 3 strain is being grown. Not all algae strains grown will be brown.
It really wasn't out of the public domain, it just wasn't posted on the internet after the old BioCentric site was replaced by the new one (except for the link to it you provided). It was available on the old BioCentric site. I got mine by asking for it. It was intended not as a public document but rather as a focused informational prospectus for Solutions 28 for prosepctive business partners of BEHL. So it makes sense that its not widely spread around now since it was limited in distribution scope to begin with.
You assumed too much based upon the statements of someone else someplace else on the internet.
For cripes sake, if it happened on the internet then it must be right?
Its not the perma-bulls doing anything. Its sensible people looking at it and knowing that what ever effect it has or will have upon BEHL will be shown in the business progression over time. And its that business progress effect, that may or may not appear, that needs to be evaluated and not some nonsense comments postulated by, and attributed to the nameless "all", someone on the internet just because you want to interpet it that way.
So, No, its not something we can all agree on. There is no angle here, what matters is what happens in business progression if any effect is to be had. We can't tell what effect it has or will have on future business progression right now. So for right now, despite inquiring minds wanting to know, its a useless non-issue.
Besides the forum is for disussion of BEHL, not individuals, and Goodall is not part of BEHL any longer, so continued discussion of Goodall is off topic actually.
Got to really ask yourself as to why someone would think that based upon the commens from someone else in an internet forum someplace saying, as your post put it, "I remember we were all saying this back in March....oh how the party was on!!!
" - gotta wonder why that has a bearing at all on the subject.
Just because someone said, and no it wasn't 'all' saying, something in a forum, it does not mean there is a bearing on the matter of what was said.
Inquiring minds wanting to keep this subject alive as a means to keep doubt circulating is not anything to pay attention to.
He's gone of his own free will, only he is able to tell why, no one knows - and thats a fact - lets move on please, nothing more to see here.
I understand. After all its available (or was at one point) straight from BEHL after asking for it, its where I got mine.
The BEHL camera is working, the tubes are green.
The tubes were green when the camera came back up, the site in DVJ is progressing, all while the camera was down, which demonstrates the camera does not need to be up for BEHL to continue conducting business or for algae to grow.
This is really strange though, because according to the reptile (and others) the camera being down means no algae can grow and BEHL does not conduct business. But when the camera came back up algae was already growing and the DVJ site has progressed towards completion. Also according to the reptile (and others), because the reptiles own camera never goes down it means that no algae can grow and BEHL is not conducting business, yet the reptile has never proved that he/she has a camera. Strange indeed if the reptile was right, but unfortunately for the reptile (and the rest) his/her theories turned out to be wrong as the rest of what he/she (and the others) may post.
I tend to think the reptile is opposed to algae growth because algae grows in the swap and he/she chokes on too much of it while feeding.
Algae in the tubes means what...that algae is growing in the tubes, despite the many who claim it as false and as witnessed by the same camera they have used as supposed proof of their baseless claims. DVJ progressed while the camera was down. Well, too bad, I hope the reptiles and gophers choke to death on algae.
I read the prospectus a while back, its been avilaable for a while actually, and he is just now discovering this?
Its a prospectus for Solutions 28. It presents information for a viable Solutions 28 prospectus for between now and 2012.
And.....his point still puzzles me, but thats OK.
Well, I read the 80 page report already. It was for Solutions 28.
Yes, most of us are able to count too. And? So because a number is involved it means something sinister?
So, then, based upon a number we should be able to extrapolate the reason why.
Lets see, today is 27 June 2010, Gasp! '27' - so thats why he left, the 27th was arriving! Now we know, mystery solved.
or....maybe
Maybe the 90 day probation end was coming and he did not make the grade, so thats why he left. Now we know, mystery solved.
or....maybe
Next year is 2011, another number, so thats why he left. Now we know, mystery solved.
So maybe it does have something to do with the 90 day probation coming to an end, but we still don't know that for a fact, nor does it really matter as he will still be gone and BEHL will still move forward.
I don't know why the post seems to indicate something sinister is afoot. It says that at the beginning of almost every PR Monique has put out.
The reason it says that is she is pleased to be able to address BEHL stock holders, not that she is pleased Goodall left. Nothing fishy there at all. Its grammar and wording context which you ignored.
Goodall left, he's the one that tendered his resignation. It could have been for any reason at all, I don't know, you don't know, no one knows at this point for a fact.
Why is your post trying to create a mystery surrounding the departure? Why are you trying to introduce speculaton as fact?
It is not uncommon for company officers to resign. It is not uncommon for company officers to resign before the end of a probation period if there is a probation period.
Maybe Goodall chose to pursue fuels from algae right now instead of waiting the few years from now with BEHL? After all it seems that the focus of algae for BEHL has shifted more toawards the cosmetic and Omega 3 side of things right now.
Maybe Goodall had some sort of medical related reason?
Maybe Goodall just got tired of working and decided to retire?
Maybe Goodall got a better offer?
Maybe, maybe, maybe.....we just do not know, there could any of a thousand different reasons. However, the fact remains that it was Goodall who tendered his resignation, not Berry, not Fisher, not anyone else, it was Goodall and thats a fact, and thus it was his choice to do as evidenced by his self tendered resignation. Therefore, the only person in the world which can tell inquiring minds the reasons why Goodall left.... is Dr. Brian Goodall.
Those who would wonder over a normal everyday occurance in business and try to read some deep dark sinister purpose into it, those who pepetuate uncertainty, fear, and nonsense guessing and speculation over the matter, really need to get a grasp on reality. That reality is that Dr. Brian Goodall left of his own accord and he is the only one who can say for a fact as to why he made that decision.
There is no mystery or sinister thing here. The only fact known is that Goodall chose to resign, thats the only fact, and trying to post or pepetuate something sinister, wrong, or anything else, into or with that is simply fear mongering and deceptive or false information.
The only person in this whole world which can give or permit and answer as to why is Dr. Brian Goodall himself, and until that time, until Dr. Goodall, gives the reason himself or gives actual permission for the reason to be known through BioCentric, all other sources or reasons or implications, implied or otherwise, of sepeculation, guessing, and deception in posts, is false and should not be believed nor any weight attached to or for such posting.
So, in the end here, the only thing that smells fishy is your post, along with other posts of yours, which seem to portray a certain lack of understanding and knowldge of normal busiess activities and some sort of agenda.
A standard business prospective for prospective customers. Sure, all 80 pages of this, and...? Don't understand your point here.
I rather you wait for the epilog, but the answer to your question is yes.
BEEEEP! Wrong.
This alledged investigation thing was posted a few weeks back also.
Since that post I reached out to some of my old partners at DOJ, who in turn made contact with several places including those mentioned in the post.
There are no "on-going" investigations.
Its really difficult to disclose publically an investigation that does not exist. Tell ya what, here is a chance to come clean for the world to see and prove what was posted. Don't need to reveal any non-public information at all, the only thing you need to do is give me a case number(s). Case numbers are not protected and are public informtion, I know as I already checked even though I already knew. So just post the case numbers for these "investigations" and i'll be able to verify them, and if they prove true then vindication it will be. If not then thanks for playing.
Perhaps that answers the post with the truth.
Thanks for asking
You believe your own DD and in depth research.
There is nothing to get straight from the forum. You simply do your own DD and in depth research, and thats what you get straight.
There is an epilog to the story that i'll tell at a later time, but the answer to your question is yes.
I know the answer to that. Got a little more confirmation last week from a person who has certain knowledge by association with a certain person. Its amazing what people will tell you, show you, and give you, when they are approached by "officials quietly looking for some background information".
I'll relate this to you in a story manner so it can not appear as a violation of the TOS, and its on topic because BEHL is discussed.
A long, long, time ago, in a galaxy far, far away....errr....
Once upon a time in a land thats far out called California, there was a certain company whose name starts with the letter 'W' that had a company officer who was also a real estate agent. One day this company officer/real estate agent, who was a real 'go getter' for land deals for companys looking for land as he had some land to unload and at the same time he could ingratiate himself into the company family and get inside information for stock trading purposes. He scurried far and wide trying to put together deals, stopping and looking and then scurrying again. He bugged everyone he could, he was a pest in other words. He reminds one of a small furry creature known as a gopher. (For the sake of not having to type the info each time i'm going to contract a statement so far into a name, so for the rest of the story this person will be refered to as Gopher.)
One day Goper discovered there was a victi.... errrrr... company in his detection range, looking for some land. The company's name was BEHL. So off Gopher sucrries, only this time Gopher had a secret plan. Gopher put together a land deal in a place called Palm Springs and for his work he received a buncha things called 'restricted shares'. Gopher started talking real nice about BEHL, he said some great things, only one little itsy bitsy problem, at the beginning he didn't let anyone know he was working on the land deal which was to be announced later. In the mean while Gopher started buying stock because he knew the land deal announcement would make the price go up and he could make money on it. However, that wasn't the only problem, Gopher had not revealed there were some possible legal issues with the land. Not only that but there was also a little side deal going on with that company with a 'W' in its name. Gopher only let a few people in on this information so they could profit too. (one in particular who made this story possible.)
One day it came to pass the deal was announced. Sure enough Goper and his friends made some money on the stock. However, soon the problems with the land deal were discovered, the problems Goper had intentionally left out even though the law requires him to disclose them. BEHL decided not to go through with the land deal in Palm Springs. This made Gopher angry and he vowed vengence upon BEHL and told people that "he would get them for this", and began talking badly about BEHL.
Sadly, it was his own greedy, swindling, work habits that caused the deal to fail yet Gopher doesn't see that. To this day the mornful pitiful cries of Gopher can be heard across the internet (actually in only a few places), repeating the same thing over and over again only said a little differently each time.
If you listen closely you can hear it now...hear that? Listen closely,,,there it is again...a little louder...ahhh now we got it, its says "Whineeeeeeeeeee....DF...MB...bad...me....good...Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah Blah...sob sob"
It's important they get samples of this algae before its affected by the oil spill. There are several very good reasons for collecting it now, but among these is the fact that exposure to the oil sipll has the possibility of affecting the algae on the genetic level leading to future growth algae which may no longer be beneficial for use in such research.
Oil is one of the most chemically complex things known to man. It is impossible to predict what effects it may or may not have. Its also one of the most toxic substances known to man.
I never said zero...... :)
In your post at > http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51717820 > you said this:'
"You stated that you have in your hand a document that shows Zero contamination or heavy metals in the water at DVJ .. I can not find that information .."
I never said there was zero. What i said in >http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=51705441 > was:
"..the water at the DVJ location does not contain any heavy metals or contamination which is greater than any other human consumption water plant or production place standards in the U.S. where water for human consumption is supplied, and such levels are not dangerous. All water supplies in the U.S. contain some trace amounts of contaminates and heavy metals."
I never said there were zero amounts. The zero amounts is something you assumed along with a lot of things.
The most current reports are not on line, you need to visit the actual offices to get them. The reports from the U.S. Forrestry service you can get from them by order through the GPO. There is also a report from Los Angeles that is on line but not yet public as its part of a contractural thing right now. I think someone posted a bunch of info for you, thats their right to do. Personally, i'm not going to do the work for you and feed your assumptions because even in the face of valid information you still assume things which changes the whole context (the 'zero' thing) and that seems to be a common thing with you.
If you would please go back and read everything you will find out that I never said that BEHL had a unit that was commericial for more than a year. If you had bothered to do any research at all you would have realized that the system was never intended to be owned by BEHL, thus it was not a unit BEHL 'had'
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After some more research; BCEA:HK was absorbed, eventually, by 'Crest Capital Partners' then later assets were broken up between two companies; Qingdao Brewery that makes Tsingtao Green Beer from Spirulina algae, and the other is Longyan Zhuoyue New Energy Development Co., Ltd. which is one of the main production companies for China Biodiesel. What happened with it from there is unknown. It is not abnormal for projects of newer technology in which the chineese governemnet is involved (the land grated) to be almost immediately and completly absorbed into some unrecognizable form and become part of china's industrial and commercial base as though it had always been there. If you understood business fundamentals you would know this is a normal occurance in all countries, its just more visible in the U.S. then it is in china - its called acquistion and merger and the chineese just do it differently. However, the assumption in relation to BEHL that "their Chinese unit that has supposedly been commercial for more than a year" was an improper one on your part. I never said it had been in operation for more than a year, in fact I specifically refered to it as a project and specifically stated "I don't know the current status of the 'project' and do not pretend to know. It may have been sold off or absorbed and recapitalized because I see a 'branch' in the paper work mentioning a beer company and a company that does fuels.", please don't attribute your falsehoods to me.
The system is leaking, we already know why, the new tubing will be in soon and the thing rebuilt, problem will be solved. This has already been hashed over once, why not just let it go and move on. You can always come back later to the subject after the new tubes are in and the same problem exists, so why waste your time with what is a moot point for now.
Obviously your not happy with BEHL and seem to hold some sort of grudge and dislike not only against BEHL and this forum, along with its members, but against yourself as the self-loathing in your posting tone clearly shows. We don't need to be rescued from BEHL, we don't need to be informed about BEHL, we know about BEHL and there is nothing anyone can say by use of slanted and deceptive posting which is of any value to reasonable and clear discussion. Despite such posting there are still 7000 plus investors, and only a hand full, about 5%, post here or read this forum, so the influence of such deceptive and slanted posting is moot because in case you haven't noticed, the members of that 5% which don't do deceptive and slanted posting but instead choose to discuss are not swayed by such posting. So continue wasting your time if you wish, however, if you don't like BEHL then invest in something else, its as simple as that.