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It would be nice if 'those people' had their own opinion in mind rather than an ulterior motive based on making some company rich on the backs of the rest of the investors.
Those that come here to bash a stock are not stating an honest, open opinion, rather they are attempting to manipulate the pps for their own financial gain. They are not fooling anyone but themselves.
buys not going thru? I have had a buy order for 8 million shares @ .0008 on the table since last Wednesday and have not been given a single share. What's going on?
When someone looses on the markets it's always the companies fault and never the investors.
Even when the product works as described it's always a 'scam' because "I lost my money".
When is it time to stand up and say that a person entered the stock (because of pumpers?) on the downward leg/after the peak and that it's not the companies fault the the pps is declining?
When is it time for individuals to take responsibility for their own investment decisions?
Why is it always high time to call the SEC because people entered at the wrong time and lost money and therefor the stock is scamming people?
When will investors claim responsibility for self directing their own funds and taking on a loss?
Why is it that when an investor makes money the company CEO is a doing great but if the investor doesn't sell on the peaks it's the CEO who is scamming people?
Great Post/Good Read, Well worth the time
wal-mart is not a topic pulled out of thin air. news dated 6/16/10 Commenting on the announcement, Zevotek's CEO, Rob Babkie, said, "The June ad blitz we announced comes through loud and clear in the June 11 IMS report. The Ionic Bulb's top ranking among household products is powerful independent confirmation that Zevotek is using TV advertising to build consumer and retailer recognition of the Ionic Bulb. Major retailers like Wal-Mart, CVS and BJ Wholesale want to know Zevotek's TV advertising supports Ionic Bulbs placed on their store shelves. IMS rankings give retailers independent proof that Zevotek has the marketing muscle needed to be their supplier. Zevotek's plan to air Ionic Bulb ads more than 1,000 times in June continues to roll on and is expected to deliver results like we announced today."
I cant tell, are you just a simple retard or an illiterate?
The ticker was given by adnetex as he stated that is the one that palestine4life was referring to.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=52013270
btw, nice attempt to slander..
it's exactly that, it's speculation, and that's what adnetex stated the ticker was that palestin4life had claimed. So is it Palestine4life or adnetex that is speculating here? I am only looking up the symbol that adnetex supplied to us ALL.....
Again, I hope this is not the company but it is odd that the pps of scfr was manipulated up on the day that corresponds to the "traded at 99 on Friday" pr.
If this is the ticker, if this is the way the shell game works then you can form your own opinions/decisions.
Obviously, some here would rather pump and bash rather than try and figure out whether this is the ticker or not.
And some here would rather pump how good things are going to be all the while claiming that "he said the ticker was scfr" and then slam a person for investigating what the ticker is and what kind of shell com0pany/game this is.
I make no judgments even against those that judge me in a vain attempt to slander my name even after I take their word that "scfr was the ticker".
Well then why did you state scfr?
Why was the pps manipulated from .25 on thursday before the pr to .99 for the "traded at 99 cents on friday" pr?
200 shares made this shell move from .25 to .99 the day before the pr.
This is just a little to misleading imho.
Why didn't atnp just release a pr saying "the company traded at .25 on Friday" instead of manipulating the price with a 200 share buy at 99 cents?
Somebody somewhere placed $200 measly dollars into the ticker just so they could release a pr stating that it was "trading at .99 cents" instead of "traded at .25 cents".
Now I see why the price of antp has not really gained ground with all the prs regarding this shell/takeover.
For once I have to give thanks to the mm's for not allowing the pps of atnp to skyrocket on the volume we've seen. The fall would have been pretty hard to take for all those newbies that would have chased the pps up prior to the merger.
I have noticed that volume on the shell has picked up slightly today with several thousand dollars acquired. But that still doesn't give me a lot of confidence.
all just my humble opinion of course.
scfr = http://www.meemcloud.com/meme_clouds/10120-SFNH-SECURITY-FIRST-INTL--Blogs,News,Web/latest/show#
I hope that this is not the ticker nor the company that is acquiring GoTVco.
Some sites List it as a scam,
very meager volume shown ->on just 4 days of trading<- in a 12 month period!
Volume was 450 shares total since July last year, 450 shares traded in 1 year??
Pinksheets lists it as a STOP, do not trade, no information;
"Indicates companies that are not able or willing to provide disclosure to the public markets - either to a regulator, an exchange or Pink Sheets. Companies in this category do not make Current Information available via Pink Sheets News Service, or if they do, the available information is older than six months. This category includes defunct companies that have ceased operations as well as 'dark' companies with questionable management and market disclosure practices. Publicly traded companies that are not willing to provide information to investors should be treated with suspicion and their securities should be considered highly risky".
scfr, It's funny that when I look at the daily volume, there was none, zero volume from may 5th until June 24th.
On June 24th, the share price was .25 cents based on no volume from may 4th to that date, Then We all read the pr that stated "Public company traded at .99 cents on Friday June 25th. WEll well, On the 24th there was no volume then on the 25th (coincidense?) somebody bought 200 measily shares and moved the ticker from .25 to .99 at which point a pro was released here stating that the mystery company traded at .99 on Friday june 25.
If this is indeed the ticker (and I hope to God it isn't) then.... Have a look at volume for yourselves and take a peek at how the share price popped 4 fold to coincide with the "company traded at .99 on Friday" pr...
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SCFR/chart
I hope that this is not the company taking over GoTVco.
jmho
what people are those? What ticker is it that "people" know you are talking about? -you have just been making unsupported and unconfirmed statements with no link and/or no ticker to back AnyThing up.
Are you a pumper?
so when the ticker is released/known and it is ->definitely not<- the one you "say" it is, are you going to apologize or just disappear?
My guess is the latter.
People, mark the post and see were "others" disappear to when the acquisition is all over and done with. jmho
I could say that your math leaves a little bit to be desired but I would be grossly underestimating you with or without your very incorrect calculator.
Thank you! I'm proud to call Americans my Friends and
my neighbors. God Bless from north of the border.
There is no arguing with those facts, well unless a person has never read up or owned shares and/or is just here to call everyone down or to b@sh.
I think we all know who that person is today...
Irregardless,
Have a great long weekend and I'll be sure to have a cold one (or 3) on Sunday around the fire in honour of our American friends and neighbors.
And in honour of the boys who are fighting for democracy around the globe...
Cheers,
Craig (just an honored northern neighbor)
There are a lot of us old timers here that have held (for more than a year) and have been rewarded. Others of course are just here to make trouble or call everybody liars.
I think we all know who is long, who has shares and who is here today to cause problems without ever owning a single share (of any company?).
nuff said...
You guys all have a nice 4th of July.
Even though I don't live in your country I will still celebrate my 4th of July with friends just like the time I visited (the US) and went up to Yellowstone to watch Old Faithful when everybody else was watching fireworks.
I'll never forget the handful of Americans who hustled out of the lodge/pub to sit and celebrate America's Birthday under that star filled night in Yellowstone.
- Cheers and don't let the bashers get to you
Craig
adnetex, dont fall into the bashers hands. He is here to set you and everybody else up for infighting as well as to revert all intelligent conversations away from the task at hand. ATNP
go bash somewhere else
Yes I typed that right, I have held onto ATNP for almost a year and have seen splits as well as 3 times I have collected various amounts of dividend shares. I can't actually tell you how many shares I owned at any one time because as each opportunity came up, as each time Chris promised us something, I bought more shares just to be rewarded with more dividends etc.
I trusted in the company, I trusted in Chris, I trusted in his ideas and have been rewarded and still have a large share in GoTVco that has yet to bare fruit.
Chris has held to his word and given the people that invested in his ideas many gifts that other penny stocks ignore.
Many others here have been long into ATNP and ignored the naysayers and the bashers and have likewise been rewarded.
Good luck to all the investors here and again, Thanks to Chris and ATNP for providing me with everything he had promised. I am keeping my eye on ATNP and will be back in in due time.
(and please forgive me for spiking the charts at around 2 pm, That was NOT dilution or insider trading as some will certainly try to claim/bash)
Craig
ok, dont jump on me but I have sold and am riding on the dividend shares of which I have almost 2 million.
Why did I sell? (for profit obviously) and Because the dividend shares already received will put me into the million $$$ range when the buyout is complete. But that is not my point...
..The interesting thing is that my large sell orders went thru almost instantly and in very substantial chunks.
What this means is that nobody else is selling (or diluting) and there is a good market (demand) for any available shares. -They were gobbled up withing seconds of placing the orders.
(If anybody thinks those large spikes at around 2pm are dilution, think again)
This all bodes well for ATNP and it's investors.
And before anybody jumps on me for selling please keep in mind that I am a strong believer and supporter of ATNP and GoTVco.
I believe we have a good thing here and many will stand to make a ton of money.
The 2 million dividend shares I have came thru holding and waiting as Chris rewarded us time and time again over the many months that I have been into ATNP.
Thank you Chris and thanks ATNP, over the last year you have allowed me to make a very good profit which is now going to help pay down my mortgage.
I will buy back in again when the opportunity arises but for now I have other things to invest my money in and the profits garnered today would not have been possible without trusting in a Standup guy like Chris. He gave me everything he promised, I made a good profit and still have the ability to make profits thru the dividend already garnered.
Good luck guys, I think we are all in good hands and the future is bright for both ATNP and the recently contracted GoTVco..
Craig.
HOD? Shorts starting to cover??
Mindlessself makes a good point, ATNP is listed as a finance company or bank, nothing more and nothing less...
They provide venture capital. Venture capital refers to the funds that are required to start up a new company/technology.
So for all intents and purposes, ATNP should always be considered a bank or a finance company.
Also, remember that Chris is and was a banker/financier for years. He has done very well for himself, is independently wealthy and is now using his prior banking/finance knowledge to lend and supply small upstart companies. When the company gets off the ground, when they have their product in hand, then Chris can entertain the though of recouping his investment by splitting and selling at a profit. ATNP as a bank will see it's intrinsic value as well as it's price per share rise as he continues to make smart investments and/or 'seeds' start up tech companies (like GoTVco), helps them get off the ground and finally tenders them for sale.
ATNP is a bank. GoTVco is and was the first upstart.
That would indicate that they retired 1.5 billion shares (so far)...
Very Interesting.....
ATNP will still own GoTVco as a separate entity. You loose nothing, ATNP looses nothing and the new shares in ATNP will start trading and therefor they will gain value.
But what if ATNP sells GoTVco after the split??
Well, if ATNP sold GoTVco for say $2,000,000, that $2 million would go into the coffers of ATNP and the pps would increase as ATNP would make $2 million dollars that 1/4 as well as add $2 million to the years end.
The pps is based on ATNP's value, and if they sold off part of the company then the cash generated would have an immediate and lasting impact on the share price.
There is really no bad scenario in splitting a part of the company off especially if ATNP finds a buyer for it.
And I think that is what the split is aimed at, finding a buyer and increasing the value of the ATNP price per share.
The split is defiantly a good thing.
Somebody better check their math... one share of Global Online Television Corporation for three hundred shares of Atlantis Technology Group owned as of the record date.
if you owned three million shares of Atlantis Technology Group, current symbol (ATNP), at the close of business on July 16th, 2010 you will receive thirty thousand shares of Global Online Television Corporation on or about July 19th, 2010.
Just Part of a larger order getting filled.
Market Makers have access to information that we wont see for days/weeks/months. Is it possible that CSTI knows of who the interested buyout/merger company is? They do have access to this info and this could be why they are entering the arena.....
CSTI represents institutional buying and that is always a good thing.
They must see something promising in ATNP/GoTVco if they are joining the list.
ATNP is clearly readying GoTVco for a possible merger or acquisition.
Take a look at the facts as we know them:
"ATNP was formed to develop publicly traded technology companies that focus on high-growth investments at the leading edge of business and technological innovation".
-ATNP is a finance and investment company, They provide ->Venture<- capital for up and comers.
-ATNP is grouped on the OTB exchange in the category of "Banks and Finance"
Furthermore, this recent statement tells of the direction that ATNP and GoTVco are heading.. "The board is reviewing the spin off again because of recent events that have occurred that will benefit the Atlantis shareholders"
The immediate plan is to separate the Parent company from the child for the purpose of seeing that "GoTVco to become a publicly traded entity as a Pinksheet or a Bulletin Board"
In an earlier pr it was clearly stated that "the possibility of a merger, acquisition, and buyout of Global Online Television Corporation" could possibly be eminent.
So the facts are laid out here quite clearly imho,
-ATNP is a finance company,
-GoTVco is a child company and has been brought to fruition (real product)
-GoTVco (as planned) is being readied for a buyout or merger
-GoTVco MUST be spun off to facilitate a possible buyout or merger.
-and ATNP will continue to supply venture capital for other start ups and technologies.
I can't stress the word MUST enough, a merger or buyout is extremely difficult if GoTVco is not listed as it's own entity.
To try and sell GoTVco as part of ATNP proper is difficult in that intellectual rights must be considered -What would be sold off with GoTVco in the event of a buyout? Lawyers fees become almost un-surmountable if GoTVco is held inside the ATNP company umbrella.
By defining a barrier between the parent and child company now (thru the spin off), The Venture capital/Finance company ATNP, will separate and sever all ties from the child company in order that the child be a well defined and therefor much easier target for another parent company to step in and Buyout GoTVco and all it's intellectual rights.
JMHO but A buyout is eminent. Everything points directly at just that. And GoTVco is just the first of many seeds that the Venture Capital Parent ATNP, will develop and bring to fruition.
all jmho
not really+ ... ... ...
when we it was .016 !!
yeah right, what he says, not really, cuz that wuz just bs
If you place your shares into sell orders the shorters cannot borrow them to short with. In effect, you remove your shares from the shorters pool of which they could potentially borrow from.
When you place your shares into a sell order you in effect reserve them, they are 'pending sale', they cannot be "borrowed" because they have to be ready for your sale if and when the pps pops up to your ask.
If enough people knew 0f this and actually kept their shares 'reserved' inside of sell orders, the shorters would have less effect and/or control of the stocks negative movements.
That is all just unfounded rumor unless you can back it up with facts and a link but I have a strong feeling that isn't going to happen.
If you can't supply proof that you own at least 1 bulb (little own 3 orders), then this is all just hot air.
Besides, CFL's have been on the market for almost 20 years, if there really was such a high failure rate we would all know about it by now.
I have not had a single bulb fail in the 5 years that I have had cfl's in my house and shop, not one failure.
When someone comes out of the blue and starts making unfounded claims that CFL's do this or CFL's don't do that, I have no choice but to pass it off as unfounded bs based on the fact that CFL's have proven themselves for ~20 years and are more reliable than the incandescent bulbs that I replaced 1000s of hours ago.
Bill, you bring up a really good point..
We have all been sitting around waiting for zvtk to announce a possible retail detail and have not given a thought to the process behind the scenes.
-It takes time to ramp up production and co-ordinate land based shipping to the retail distribution center(s).
There may also be the possibility that zvtk has to raise $$ for upfront manufacturing costs before the product can be shipped out of China.
All things considered, zvtk may be working on all the behind the scene stuff that has to be 'checked off the list' before they will officially anounce that "It's on the shelf at _____".
My thoughts are that ATNP is merely positioning GoTVco for a future buyout as It's difficult to sell off a portion of your company unless it is it's own entity. The Spin off sets GoTVco as it's own entity and makes it much easier to entertain future buyout offers.
Remember, ATNP is a venture capital company. They are in the business of growing ideas into viable companies and spinning them off. -That's what ANTP does, they lend money and/or invest in viable ideas.
I speculate that GoTVco has now been seeded, it is now an actual (real) company and Now ATNP's major job is done.
As a venture capital company, ATNP now realizes that the best thing for GoTVco is to move it forward into a separate performing entity complete with a specific and dedicated staff independent of ATNP.
This will allow ATNP to get back to their job at hand, providing more venture capital for bright ideas, seed then and let them sprout wings of their own.
Is it really worth debating an unfounded rumor that was apparently stated by an unknown representative of an unrelated company of ATNP?
Etrade doesn't know squat and the "May or may not" statement is just someone admitting that they don't know Schlitz.
"May or May not" is just another way of saying "I don't know".
...And now people are starting to clamor on about the fear that 'may or may not' happen based on an etrade telephone support staffer who "doesn't know any more than you or I" or as he put it "May or may not", happen.
ATNP staffers are the ones to listen to, not the "may or may not know anything" telephone support staff at an unrelated company.