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Thank you for the info. Very valuable.
I have to admit, the way ECDC closed yesterday at .0095, I really believed we be .01+ right now. I am completely surprised. Soon ECDC will hit .01 and much higher but not today. Unless we get some news during the day, most likely ECDC will slowly drift down. This means of course, I will be buying more shares!!!!!
Who was the bird brain who sold 100,000 shares of CMEY stock for $10.00? What is the purpose of such a sale? Why bother to sell at .0001 when the last few sales have been .003 or higher? How can $10.00 matter that much? Oh well. It's your loss.
You could be right to be sure. I think $5 and above would be a big jump for this year. But next year it could happen. One thing you are absolutely correct about: we need good news. The stock is likely to go down first-- a lot before it heads north again. At least we don't have a billion plus shares hanging out there. And of course, a lot depends on how much TDCP dilutes the stock from this point forward. I hope they can get on top of the technology. That seems to be the real problem. In any case, this "small steps" strategy they have adopted may be a blessing in disguise. One thing is for sure, when 3D volumetric technology hits this world it will be a great wonder. I can hardly wait. Good luck my friend.
That was the problem. It should have been much higher. The fact that it was a normal volume day is the problem. Judging from your posts, I think your head must hurt a lot. Good Luck.
This is not a good start. Today's pps for TDCP did not do good at all. The increase in the pps was ok but the volume was very very bad. Unless we get some good news soon, the pps will likely head south fairly soon. Of course, in the vast majority of r/s, the new post r/s higher price does not hold anyway. Generally, the Company and/or its creditors start to dump their shares and the pps goes back to levels before the r/s. In TDCP's case, a lot depends on the kind of news we get. They did talk about somethings coming up in 30 to 45 days in the last Letter to the Shareholders. In the mean time, you all know how I felt many times before, holding pre-r/s shares and unable to sell them at these new higher prices!! We will have to wait for the new shares to be issued. We can buy and sell all the post r/s we want--but we must wait to sell our pre-r/s until TDCP management issues them. GLTA.
Go easy on John. He is losing big today. lol.
If this volume keeps up we have a real good chance of busting .01+ today!!!
which you should NOT be allowed to do
Unless you have the new shares already, you should not have been able to do that. All pre r/s cannot be sold. You must wait for the Company to send new shares to Fidelity, Scotrade etc. If you can sell your pre r/s, which you should be allowed to do, you can make a killing. Hope I don't see you in jail. lol. I use Scottrade for TDCP.
TDCP went back over a penny .011 (.40 divided by 35). At least we got that.
We are going to need more volume to get this baby .01+. Where are the day traders? Just a little push from them might get us .01. Once we pass .01, we can just set everything on automatic cruise!! Go ECDC!
Sure Mountain Dog. Please feel free to forward my post if you wish. For TDCP to issue three Letters to the Shareholders and never mention as a reminder of the r/s is inexcusable. Good luck my friend.
TDCP’s management deserves a grade of ‘F’ for the way they handled the r/s. I have been through four r/s with other companies. In every case, the company announced a week to 10 days ahead of time the effective date for the r/s. A company will do this so that those who want out can get out. And those who just recently bought stock in the company and who did not know about the r/s can get out. TDCP issued three Letters to the Shareholders in April of 2012 and did not have the common decency to let everyone know the effective date for the r/s. Absolutely nothing was said. Nothing. No reminder of any kind. Nothing. Instead we find out after the market has closed that the effective date for the r/s will be Friday, April 27th.. This is very bad form for TDCP management if not abusive behavior by them. (As you know, many of TDCP’s investors thought the r/s had been called off. Since management was completely silent about the r/s for months and the lower stock price indicated to them that a r/s would offer little value to the company.) Also, there are many new shareholders who just bought into this company in the last three or four weeks. Because no notice was given for the r/s except for the one provided last year, these new investors are going to take a very big hit. Given the pps behavior for TDCP stock for the last 4 or 5 months, it is clear that no one should hold onto their Common Stock shares through the r/s. They should sell before the r/s and buy back in after the r/s in a few weeks. This will not be possible now because TDCP acted in bad form and did not provide some sort of notice either in March or April 2012 for when the r/s will occur. These people at TDCP are not very nice people. Of course, if TDCP issues good news tomorrow, namely that the EVTB or the TSP is ready-- that is different. In that case, you would want to hold onto your shares through the r/s. But we now know that is not going to happen either. It appears that the management at TDCP mislead the shareholders concerning the progress of CSpace at the October 2011 stockholder meeting. We were told in the November 2011 Letter to the Shareholders that the EVTB would be ready in approximately 6 months or so. Now we know better. We now hear about TDCP taking small steps with the 3D volumetric technology–translation–they have run into a technological snag. Good managers deal honestly with their stockholders. If TDCP is having trouble with the CSpace technology, say it! Most stockholders can handle the truth very well and will be supportive. Once you put out an estimated date for the EVTB the way TDCP did in the November 2011 Letter to the Shareholders, a company has an obligation to the shareholders to speak honestly why the date cannot be kept. I am still excited about CSpace and TDCP’s future. However, I have learned an important lesson. Management at TDCP acted in bad form and cannot be trusted to treat their shareholders with the kind of respect they deserve. I am sorry my friends but this is the way I feel right now.
If they plan on doing a r/s they have not got much time left--if they intend to honor their April deadline. If they don't do a r/s, I can't tell if that is good news or bad news. If they don't do a r/s, it may be a signal that they plan to dilute some more. In any case, I think the current pps reflects the fear a r/s might happen soon. If we don't get a r/s, the stock might rally in the short term. That recent Letter to the Shareholders about CSpace technology tells us for sure they are having a little trouble with the science of 3D volmetric technology. Anybody who wants to go in small steps never does so when they can take big ones. Something is holding them back. It may the heat issue they were talking about last October. Hopefully, TDCP is still out in front with CSpace. But they better get busy. 3D volumetric technology is not too far off for somebody to send it commercial.
I take it that you think all the people who hold this stock through Scottrade are counted as 1 person. I think that is true. Someone else suggested that people who buy through AMeritrade, Scottrade etc. are counted as one person in 10Q's and 10K's. It would be nice if UNGS was bought out. I think we might be .05 a share or somewhere around there. I must confess something damn strange is going on. THis company has been bought and re-bought several times in the last months. The number of shares sold is just unbelievable. Good luck.
UNGS might go private. I think that may happen. We will see soon enough. One thing however, if UNGS can not have more than 300 investors, we may still have a problem. Because UNGS has 248 investors as you said. But I think and I am not sure about this, so correct me if I am wrong. But in that 248, Scottrade is treated as one person. Thus, there may be thousands of UNGS investors being counted as one person under the name of Scottrade. Of course, since Scottrade is counted as one person, maybe that will be ok and not violate the 300 member rule. What do you think?
My friends, ECDC will go to pennyland soon enough. However, we have a number of people here who every day are making wild predictions that never come true. Each and every day is the day ECDC will hit .01 or .02. Our board will suffer credibility because of these wild and reckless predictions. ECDC is a great stock and we will hit pay dirt big time. However, writing post after post with unfounded predictions will discourage new investors in ECDC and cause people to shy away from our board. Be patient. Have confidence. ECDC will give us great rewards when the market is ready. GLTA.
My apology, I forgot to underline a key sentence.
April 12th Letter:
“In addition to developing the CSpace technology, 3DIcon is evaluating technologies that could provide us with significant competitive and time-to-market advantages in the glasses-free flat screen 3D area as well. In order to enter the glasses-free 3D market earlier than the development timeline of our own technology will allow, we are considering opportunities to acquire assets or companies that provide 3D products that have already hit the market and are generating revenues.”
A review of the two April Letters to Shareholders.
As an investor, if I had a choice, I would prefer the November 1, 2011 Letter to the Shareholders by the former CEO Sidney Aroesty than the ones just released. If you notice, the November 1 Letter gives critical information concerning commercialization and when it will likely occur. See below two key quotes concerning when commercialization can occur and an estimate when the EVTB and TSP will be ready:
From the quote below, we learn we need the EVTB before commercialization can occur:
November 1st Letter:
“It is likely that active commercialization efforts can be started when the Engineering Verification Test Bed (EVTB) is finished in approximately 6 months. The EVTB will be identical to the Trade Show Prototype model in every respect but will be somewhat smaller, approximately the size of a “snow globe”. ”
Here we learn an estimated schedule when the EVTB and the TSP will be ready:
November 1st Letter:
“Dr. Hoover then spoke in some detail of the development process and most importantly of the estimated timeline to get to a final Trade Show Prototype. The timeline estimated for the Engineering Verification Test Bed which would give us the ability to initiate commercialization efforts was estimated to be approximately 6 months and approximately 12 months for the final TSP. ”
Most alarming from the two recent Letters to the Shareholders this month by former CEO Sid Aroesty and the new CEO Mark Willner is a total absence of any kind of meaningful update on the EVTB and the TSP. There is nothing about when or if the EVTB or the TSP will be ready in 2012. Nothing at all. This is a very bad signal. I hope I am wrong, but I think the Company has hit some sort of technological snag. Something has gone wrong with the volumetric 3D technology. There are several comments that suggests TDCP is having technological problems:
Consider these quotes from the April 12th Letter by Mark Willner:
He said:
April 12th Letter:
“It is my view that 3D displays will evolve over time in major "waves" defined by usage paradigm
and in minor "waves" defined by the underlying technology.” This sounds like double talk to me. What he is really saying is we are not ready with our volumetric 3D technology.
Concerning glass free 3D technology and the problems with TDCP’s own technology (read carefully what is underlined):
He said:
April 12th Letter:
“In addition to developing the CSpace technology, 3DIcon is evaluating technologies that could provide us with significant competitive and time-to-market advantages in the glasses-free flat screen 3D area as well. In order to enter the glasses-free 3D market earlier than the development timeline of our own technology will allow, we are considering opportunities to acquire assets or companies that provide 3D products that have already hit the market and are generating revenues.”
Thus, TDCP has shifted gears. A major change has occurred in the business plan for the Company. They are planning to buy new companies that are generating revenue now but who use flat screen glass free 3D technology. Hint: that means that CSpace’s 3D volumetric technology most likely will not be ready this year for commercialization. I hope I am wrong but I think that is what is happening. Commercialization of CSpace is no longer on the front burner. Buying new companies with flat screen 3D technology will be No. 1. Notice how pitiful the commitment to commercialization of CSpace was stated in the April 12th Letter:
April 12th Letter:
“The Company remains committed to the commercialization of our CSpace technology.” These kind of comments do not encourage me at all. I would not be surprised if commercialization for CSpace did not occur until 2013-2014.
Also, the November 1, 2011 Letter to Shareholders had very encouraging comments about future customers. See below the following comments:
November 1 Letter:
“I also noted that 3DIcon has identified and is having discussions with potential strategic partners, including a Fortune 50 Aerospace company for command and control and inventory applications; an optical scanning company to provide automated scanners for manufacturing lines; a gaming company to provide 3D elements for gaming tables and a private defense company to provide display systems for the intelligence Community.”
We have nothing from the April Letters that provide any kind of update on these discussions. Of course, this again confirms in my mind that the EVTB and the TSP are not ready and will not be for some time.
The November 1 Letter provided an answer to all five questions presented within the Letter:
“1. Why do the reverse split and why such high numbers – 15 to 35 to 1.
2. When can we expect to see a viable display?
3. Can we provide more detail on our business development plan and timeline?
4. Why is the process taking so long? The company has been promising revenues, product etc. for some time.
5. What has happened to the stock’s price? Why is there no price support?”
There is nothing like this in either of the April Letters. No updates of any kind.
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What does this mean for the pps for TDCP? Aside from the fact that neither of the April Letters gave us any update concerning the r/s,-- buying new companies that are currently generating revenue may make TDCP profitable for change. It is even possible that the new business plan may improve the pps for TDCP. To be sure, I would love to see CSpace go commercial this year. It would be a history making event. I want to be a part of it–if only as an investor. I hope I am wrong but commercialization of CSpace in 2012 does not seem to be in the cards. I plan to stay with TDCP. I just don’t expect too much this year. Of course, our new CEO can delight all of us with some unexpected good news. I wish him and all of us much success.
HI Madman, Sorry I have not responded sooner. I have been very busy in the last few days. I will be posting my thoughts on both Letters to the Shareholders in the immediate future.
Hey! the stock went up today for a change! Wow! Could this be a sign of things to come? The stock tried very hard to stay at .0006. This could be a signal that whatever has been going on is about done. We might see some action!
I have seldom seen a stock that has sold so many shares and not do anything. The trading range is very narrow to say the least. At some point UNGS should do something. Given the number of shares sold, this company is being bought and sold just about every week. GLTY. Go UNGS--please.
I am surprised and very pleased that ECDC did not seriously test .003 today. Not only did it not go down but at one point it was higher than the opening. This is a very bullish signal to be sure. Today, I bought back and restored the 25% of the shares I sold two days ago. As you recall I sold 25% of my ECDC shares two days ago at .006. I wanted those shares back because next week could bring some good news. If we have a good 10k next week, all bets are off on what will happen to ECDC's pps. GLTY.
I bought back the 1/4 of shares I sold at .006. I bought back in at .0049. ECDC went above the opening. That is a bullish signal.
In my opinion, the last time to sell ECDC shares was at .005. If you did not sell at .005 or above, I recommend you stay put and hold. Plan on averaging down. Unless we get some good news, the odds are the stock will go down again tomorrow--and test .003. The danger here of course is the 10K could come out on Monday and cause another big rally. I may start buying tomorrow because if the news is very good, we may never see these prices again for ECDC. So for those of you behind, don't sweat it. You will make pay dirt before too long.
Just wanted to "Hi" cjstocksup. Do you remember me? We had an interesting discussion yesterday. I enjoyed it alot. Good luck on your investment in ECDC. We will hit pay dirt soon enough.
I take donations of free shares anytime from anyone. lol.
I did not buy any yesterday. My last buy was two weeks ago at .0017. I sold 1/4 of my total ECDC shares yesterday at .006 and made a nice profit. I could have sold more than 1/4 but it is too risky, the upside potential is very high. It could fly to .10 any day--thus I will keep a fairly large position. At the moment, I am waiting for ECDC to drop to .002 and then I will be buying back in.
Congratulations on your investment in ECDC. A nice quick profit is always welcome. With your permission, I would suggest that the least accurate evaluation for ECDC is past performance. This company is really four companies in one. One of them, Whispers is about to come on board in two or three months. Thus, past performance is a poor gage of future profits. The best way to evaluate ECDC is the CEO, Kay. Kay is a top CEO and is very aggressive in building ECDC. He is loaded with talent and he is the perfect kind of CEO for a company like ECDC. He is also the best for investor relations. This stock will hit .10 at some point this year. Thus, for those with patience, the returns from ECDC will be in the 1,000%’s this year. It is not inconceivable tht ECDC could even go higher in .50 to $1.00 range this year. Some long plays are worth waiting for. Good luck to you.
The volume is low. I trust everyone knows what that means.
My friends, that last sale of 200,000 shares was mine. I needed some money because another stock I own was getting ready to move big and I wanted to buy more shares. Thus, I sold some of my CMEY shares. I put the sell order in with Scottrade about 4 days ago at .002---AON. I am pleased that it sold today for .003. I do not plan to sell any more CMEY stock. I have enough to make a killing when CMEY makes a come back. I think the stock will recover and will make a great product for the consumer and all of us lots of money. Good luck CMEY innvestors!!
I wish you success with your strategy.
My friends, ECDC will make us all lots of money. Soon we will have good news from Kay--any day now. But our fortune will not be made today--if she falls below .0055--look out. I have sold a few shares today with the idea of picking up more later this week at a lower price. I have enough left over to make a killing even if it does not go back down.
I would love to hold your hand all the way!! GLTY.
We are overdue for some profit taking. Let's see what happens in the next hour.
Armageddon, I cannot respond privately to your private communication. However, I am not sure what it is you wanted me to do. Please accept my apology.
That is a valuable piece of information. Thank you for the info.
No problem. GLTY.
Yes I am aware of how well Kay communicates with investors. And you are right, everyone should do DD. I am sorry you did not like my message to Kay.