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News out. Going to drill more holes. Looking good so far.
http://www.zenyatta.ca/article/press-release-1303.asp
The part about getting a second rig is interesting.
If the drill program as planned is just about over, why would you not just take that rig and do further sampling to get graphite for giving out samples, refining the process, etc, etc?
I've thought all along that they would further explore these two pipes, in particular deeper down. So you would need the first rig to continue with some other work. Maybe a feeble attempt at reading tea leaves but I think the exploration phase ain't close to being done.
Is that theory the deeper you go, the better the graphite purity / concentration / percentage / etc, true in this case? What did it show on the way down??? At some point you do want to know where the bottom of these pipes is.
Anywho, all good news it seems.
Bit of news, looks like we are still on schedule. Good they are getting samples out to interested companies very early in the game.
http://www.zenyatta.ca/article/press-release-1301.asp
I still expect they will at some point try to do a drill to test the total depth in general. Maybe do a second phase of drilling, they have some money, probably no problem to raise a bit more. Game plan does seem to be coming together.
Kungfu I would not be so glum.
Yes, you might have a lot at stake in NTCXF. And it is hard to project a time line forward. But they do have the one thing you tend to want in a big hitter type speculative penny stock.
If they do hit it big, they will be sort of the only kid on the block. Something like the layered dot cells, expecially if done roll to roll and if done on something not silicon based. Maybe carbon based. So much is not known about that type of technology and what it would / could do to completely change solar as it is presently known. The entire technology part of it, the marketing, who can / will use it.
Like what would it do to panel working life? Nothing in the present designs of silicon cells is going to change very dramatic. And how far away are they and what is the time line forward, can be frustrating?
But if successful probably looking at a very big hitter.
Part of it I think is never put all the eggs in one basket. You can find a bunch of these potential penny stocks that can go to God Awful heights. Trick being to sort them out and have some reasonable expectations. Many of them all have that problem of being able to judge the time frame to success. Not all of them will work out.
I have a number of them. Any one of them could make the rest of my holdings look sick if they hit big. From time to time, I do adjust how much I hold of each.
Click on My Name on this post, then click on My Stocks. Look for the one starting with the letter Z. Another speculative stock but probably far easier to judge at this point. Being a miner, we already have a very good sense of the success, what the timeline forward is. Probably pretty sure thing at this point, will know a lot better around the end of the month. All about Breccia, nobody else to date got anything like it, at this point is more a question how much we got and what / how will we get paid. They call it a freak, nobody in history has found anything like this. Maybe the most profitable stuff you can pull out of the ground.
General thinking will be a buyout around 1Q 2014, SP in general probably over $100, (maybe a lot more). Nobody ever had any to sell before, crazy economics, huge profits. Final details could be a big surprise to the plus side. Lots of stuff to know about it all. I'm just riding easy, in at the small penny range, been learning as it goes. At this point question is not will it all work, more like how big. And they could be sitting on a bunch more that they ain't saying about. Only a very, very small part of their total claims area. Lots of wantabee's trying to buy in around them. They have the commanding lead at this point, plus already have proved up a lot of tons of the stuff.
Lots of info on it, IHub is good. Easier to take if you get one or two of the plays working. Same thing with the medico type plays, can be risk but get the right ones, can go to the stars, might take a few years.
Would not give up on NTCXF just yet. The insiders got a lot to lose too. Can be wildly rich if they do it right.
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Looks like the recent move was due to some work on gold. Can't find that they have even started looking for the graphite or even have plans for it yet. Smaller issue of stock and apparently they do have a wee bit of money in bank. Might be being hyped for graphite before there is any real reason to do so. Very early in the game for them.
Well that donkey only has one post on IHUB that shows up.
Guess he just had to bring his words of wisdom to the masses. Not a method I would use. Ride winners, sell losers.
ZEN will be one of the stocks you tell your grandkids about. Can be a high point in your life. If you got enough, about like hitting the lottery. Should not have to wait that long to know how big.
What do you mean "No Product Above Ground"?
What do you think is in those test cores. The question today is how much better / bigger? Already the East pipe is a fairly well known result.
And unlike say an oil well, we sort of know some of the results as it ticks along. What is going to cause it to "Pop"? This ain't a dry hole by a long shot.
If anything the SP at this point should be fairly priced, maybe a bit low based what the total take could be. No guts, no glory.
About like those companies that drill gas wells. They hit good holes one after the other and the SP goes up, you then claim it means get out because your having success. Strange theory. They are proving the resource as they go. Unlike say the gas companies we also probably can't tank the overall market with this one freak mine. What is scaring you??? Next you will claim a final result will only be worth less than a dollar.
Messing around trying to figure out the number of holes to go. Somewhere I remember the total was going to be around 50, so that would leave about 16 or so to go.
Seems like they might slip a lil past August before done. Weather should still be decent if they decide to have a few more looks. I'm betting at the end they would like to poke a few more holes to sort of test total depth in a few places. Maybe they can reuse a bit of some of the prior holes.
I did buy some more. This recent trading looks like it can be over a range of say $3.00 - 4.00+, the RSI is sort of neutral in here. Not pointing to any extreme move either way. We probably need some good news to drive it up to a new trading range.
Did buy more myself and got that relative to buy some.
Is there any type of technology that you can lower down in the holes and do something based on sound or whatever to get a better look from the bottom over a wider area?
They know the exact areas / make up of the cores with a positive method and based on that, can you infer a lot more based on some non-contact method over a much larger area not drilled. Maybe to include deeper. Like you do in the oil patch, they can do seismic, think they know what it is telling you. Drill some holes, get some successful wells and then re-evaluate based either on more seismic or what the well results were bounced off the seismic again. Computer comes up with better picture, lot of it been done in older oil fields. They bounce the real production results off the more theory based methods of saying it is there and it exact conditions. Helps tune future gambles.
Thing is such a freak, hard to speculate what is possible.
But being one of a kind some far, wouldn't be in a big hurry to sell before scoping it out best possible.
Of all the holes ever drilled anywhere in the World, has anything like this type rock been reported before? Gazillion oil wells, test cores for minerals, coal, etc of all types of wells. Usually they monitor the rock pretty close as a general practice on the way down. Never heard anybody say they found this stuff even in small quantities as part of rock. How rare is it really in general terms, is it mentioned in geo text type books.
What is anybody's speculation that there will be more in the same general area? Do you think the company sort of knows where to look for more in the same area?
We do need some good news to help support the SP in here. Smoke a few traders.
Yeah Turnert, probably a wise choice both offical and unoffical guessimate. Still too many puzzle pieces missing.
Maybe there has to be some pilot work, produce some product and see where customers want something like this to fit. Is it going to be more of a niche market supplier or more like something more general in nature? For the shareholders / company the goal is always getting the highest price for your product. But it is a freak situation and hard to put in a pigeon hole at this stage.
The danger might be somehow the graphite market gets flooded but could that be true at the higher end?
Sort of what happened with UPL. Success ruined things. Gas prices way up over $14 and the technology changed, fewer dry holes, drill like crazy and nobody will stop. Drive the gas price to the ground, all about the CEO bonus tied to production. Had to know when to quit believing. Success is a very heady thing.
Anyway seems to be one of the best things around at the moment. Hopefully more success coming, play it until something starts to scream stop. At this stage, I'm thinking a lot bigger coming. Get used to pinball numbers.
I would not quibble with your numbers for the total volume of things. Very good guess at this point.
But Zen is not going to try to operate at the lower end of the higher purity market, makes zero sense, no matter who would be selling the final product. So the real value in the ground is far higher. Zen should be the preferred vendor just on being able to meet extreme specs and always have the best price break.
Pick any number, but I would make it toward the higher end of what that speciality market could bear. $15,000 should still be a conservative number. It is what the bidding price for the resource will do. The whole thing is a freak and it will play to its strong points. Big bucks in the ground and probably nothing on the horizon to change the price range to overall market for the high end products.
And the graphite, graphene, graphane markets and its demand will probably change with time, demand always increasing. Who, what type of graphite to serve various markets. Probably good demand for all kinds of graphite. But the technology is also changing, 3D printing, materials science, etc. Lots of unknown factors but having the best high purity stuff at the cheapest price got to be a good play. It might be better protected from over supply and price pressures downward.
Most surprises should be good. Resource base will get bigger with time. How it all ends who knows. But I ain't seeing any stock that I would deem will give me more dollar gain over say the next year to two years. Plus it is not the type of stock where they are trying to keep big secrets.
I sort of compare this with what happened with UPL. Nobody ever predited the outcome, was way to many turns along the way. Plus the market they served changed. You just had to know get in early as big as you could and hold on tight. Lots of liars claiming they bought UPL at $2. First I ever got was around $4 and didn't know had a big winner until like around $10. I think Zen is an easy prediction of big winner, hoping for a lot bigger than I have any right to dream. So much probably depends on how the resource gets mined and by who. Can't see Zen just selling off for some highly discounted chump change number like so many other exploration companies. It will all happen a lot sooner than UPL did.
Once all the numbers fall into place, total value will be much higher than any of us think. Still nice to guess, I'm betting so far the guesses are low. Maybe by a fair amount. Numbers are always tricky buggers.
Yep, talking something about as big as my county. Got to be other places to have a look.
The other question I am debating is how deep does it probably go? I understand they just need to prove up enough for a mine but at the end of all this present work, they will have something like 2-3 million left over.
Would you not out just curiosity try to get an idea of total depth? Even for just chuckles and how much might still be below? What is the thinking in this area? Think they will plug a few holes to see how deep she might go? Any guesses how far further down might be economical / have it in quantities.
Looking around, the deepest diamond mines I found was like 1500 or so feet. Seems like at some point, they would want too in some fashion get some feel for total depth in both pipes. And what that might add to overall evaluations, even just as a talking point.
Only seriously looking at Zenyatta at this point. Did try to run down them wantabee's but none of them have big enough acreage. Might hit something but might also be more an exercise in mining shareholders pockets. All of them seem to have to raise fair amount of money.
Wish I had more of ZEN in the Roth. Damn I hate paying taxes of any sort. If you run a few calc's gets scary how much the pay out could be. Never made a million in one stock before. Even more scary when it gets way above just a million. Starting to be convinced shift more money from other stocks into Zen.
Doing the conversions still don't come out exactly right but I guess they are talking about the 300,000 acres is just 4F. Running the conversion that should be like 468 square miles or 1212 sq/km if the calculator was right. More than my back yard.
So my take is there is a lot that still has not been looked at very close. I'm liking it the longer it goes. Going to tell my relative to buy.
Well Gary, it was never concern. I was just trying to make you rich. I still think you should look at the stock I told you about.
Almost everybody at first don't want to believe it. You must understand the facts and details. Like with any stock but that one in particular.
IGXT will make some money at some point. I don't think it ever will be as much as the Z. Sure not as quick. Most of the risk I would judge is out of the Z at this point. The first big money already made.
I believe in spreading the risk and not having all the eggs in one basket. Hopefully anyone of them can make you serious money.
Maybe you could get 10 houses, boats, cars, maybe even an airplane. Listen to what is being said.
Ok, thanks, I'm still not sure of the size of things.
One source sezs the claim is 300,000 acres but does not identify exactly what they are talking about. Is that all the different areas?
I've never seen the present location of the pipes within 4F and how much of that total area it takes. Can't be much.
Trying to get a handle on how much bigger this all could turn out to be. Including those other metal claims.
Like many folks at first I did not want to believe this could potentially be as big as I have been becoming to believe. Some of my relatives are asking me. To this point I never told them to buy the stock but now thinking I should. Can't risk telling to buy something that don't make them rich. Never would hear the end of it. Especially from their wife.
Those maps that show the drill pipes. I never seen an overlay on the total acreage for the graphite exactly where the pipes are. How much of the total are we now exploring? I did see one comment about a third possible pipe.
Trying to figure out the big pix in terms of how much of that 4F acres is left and what are the possible future finds similar to what we now have? Could this be super bigger once they look enough?
Also those wantabee players who are buying close in. Would like to see on the map where they are. Is this thing not just a freak but spread over many pipe locations?
Another PR on the website.
http://www.zenyatta.ca/article/press-release-1293.asp
Any opinion why the SP started to bounce around so much. Have traders found the stock?
Can't say I'm exactly understanding this all.
Why would RB not sue them? Would it be PAR that they sue and PAR would have the legal duties / costs for any fight. Or do IGXT / PAR share it, or don't we know for sure.
Or do they know something that the PAR / IGXT approach is so different that RB would not go there.
What is the general thinking, is this drug dead meat for a number of years into the future? Or is it just a wait and see? Does this mean we got 45 days to wait?
Drug stocks are too complicated. Mining stocks is just about holes in the ground. Either there is something in that hole or there ain't.
But IGXT does seem to be making progress, even if it is just fur flying and lawyers loving it.
Ah, Teq hang in there.
Very good news today. That is what we want longer term. Being able to do quantum dots in layers in a liquid bath is way ahead of just about anybody else. They will slowly solve the problems one at a time. Actually they are doing it pretty fast if you look at the history of technology development in solar.
If they finally can put it all together, a solar cell built up in layers, get the selective emitter part of it right, be able to do it roll to roll, have it with an absolute black surface. And make it all far cheaper than any other method. And the cell does not have to track the sun, get rid of that incident angle problem.
Sort of wild that they hint at being able to solve the spacing part of it at this early stage. That is exactly how those lil dots get put on there and spaced out in relationship to each other. Best if you have a method that they want to do it themselves by some type of force within the process.
They don't mention it but if you get to that level, might be possible to do the cell on both sides.There have been attempts to do that before. In theory then you can use reflectors and do collection on both sides and the economics should be super. Lots of wild designs become possible.
The one biggy they haven't talked about is this idea of making a cell that has multiplying effect. One electron causes a number of others to get knocked out. But they are not as restricted in the technology as many other approaches by "Normal" companies where the technology changes at a snails pace. Just getting it to work in principal is the start. And it is a learning process as you go.
A big thing America has lost. They don't do that type development work in many companies so the skills aren't there in the population. Natcore is doing it right, totally hands on in house. Building the skills in the workforce as they go. The accident of invention is in play. And this is not some ivory tower lab, this is an industrial targeted research program at getting to manufactured product(s).
Playing around the way they do also might yield other advantages. In any method, you want the cells to come out with exactly the same spec characteristic. Will their methods give an advantage there? I could see that as being the case, chemistry might be superior in holding specs in the process. When you start to put the cells into panels in arrays or networks, that whole spec thing comes into play big time.
And what does these methods do to cell working life? Lots of areas if they are superior is a game maker. How easy is it to recycle or dispose of solar panels once their working life is over?
Many, many lil Holy Grails to be solved to finally get to the full potential of solar. If you can change the game, you probably can change how they are used. Design cells into cars, electric bikes, etc. Massive market in more third World countries that can not / won't play the subsidy game.
And keep in mind the number of very large companies that have walked away from solar. GE always comes to mind. They understand the technology is just not there to support the business plan many would like to have.
Actually at some point I would expect to start to see some type of goverment money flow Natcore's way in some form. They are trying to re-invent the wheel.
And I think this idea that they are going in too many directions all at once might be because you do have to look at many approaches. Always a number of blind alleys in any great technology change.
So we go with the flow, in the end I do expect surprises in all sorts of areas. GE ain't going to not be a player if the technology will support what they wanted to do a while back. Same with a lot of the big boys. Plus it is also not true the present day solar industry doesn't have its own problems. The products coming out the doors of many companies are not without their numerous flaws.
I do not expect the first users to be present manufacturers. Natcore might even become it's own captive producer to a big company for a while. The future can not be predicted. But Chuck does want to seem to avoid China for good reason.
Hard to put a time line to Natcore's game plan. But I think we are finally getting closer to some exciting times. They haven't blown the stock issue way out of sight, there is real progress.
I chased one Tech company for over ten years. Finally made some money, very rough road along the way. Natcore is doing well, always risk but the potential is also massive as well as future payout. Pays you money, takes you chances.
Reminds me of that one statement in a book, think it was "Future Shock" where it was stated as changes happen they come quicker, but the level of change is smaller in scope, with smaller intervals between change until the change is continuous. I can see some of that type concept now happening here. We are still in the "Big Thinking" type phase to figure out what change needs to be done. But once an approach is decided on, look for the changes to come much quicker between developments. They will have their own experience to fall back on. Might also be fun to go to work for a lot of them.
Your choice, just giving you a pretty sure choice. I don't really have concerns. Just don't want you to be homeless now that you are in the street.
Gary maybe you need a new focus. This medico game is not the only one in town.
Click on my name and look at the stocks I have listed. Take the one starting with Z and go read all the stuff posted here on IHUB.
Only talking a tad under 300 posts. Lots of good info there, they break it out pretty good why you want in. Get to know what it is all about. They are like half way thru getting to the big decision, should be this year. The potential money there could blow away anything of a medico nature. Estimates on SP can be wild for good reason. There could be even more pipes, right now it is just the east and west pipe. The east pipe is pretty well done, just that could be a super company maker. Two more years maybe to production. SP will go up a lot more before then.Been a very easy one to ride up to this point. I got in at a super good entry point. Has been working to plan.
Already I've made a lot of money, got in for a few cents, my average like $.23. You don't have this problem of everything is secret and they don't perform. Right now events push SP.
I'm also playing ETRM probably shorter term. Making some money. Country needs something that can start to fix the overweight problems. It is killing them literally. Question being will it go big as an investment??? For me, mostly wait and see at this point, I'm in at a good price.
I'm not giving up on IGXT. Wish it was better run but I don't see the investment being in any danger at this point. If anything the present situation could result in a bigger pay off down the road. I doubt there is any real money to be made trying to trade in it. More like emotional involvement. I never have all the eggs in one basket. I'm giving it more time to get cleared up in scope then I will make a decision to leave or stay.
Name of the game is find the really big hitters. Only need a few in a life time if you get enough of it. I've been there before. You never exactly know up front. I'm betting the Z is a lot bigger than we think. Getting that feeling again.
Credit Gary, I just want to know what color the tail lights are. Always happens.
Hey, Killer you did something I never seen anybody do before.
Get absolutely nothing in a post. Nada, not one letter.
Didn't think it would let a fellow do it. Had to blink a few times to comprehend the meaning of it all.
Did you ever try to stop a freight train with a lot of steam up and throttle wide open.
Zenyatta is being driven by results. They are hitting the Mother Lode on each hole. Enough info out there to know what that means in terms of future share value. Plus folks are now trying to project forward results and the SP is starting to reflect that anticipation. SP is being pushed by events on the ground.
Just for the rest of us, what does it look like watching the train pull away? I've heard they have red lights in back, is that true. Me, I just got a ticket to ride. Lot more coming. Whistle blowing long and long, high ball express.
Got the right site, got the right product, got the money, hitting the test holes. No real competition in sight, wide open track to the Promise Land. Why would anybody want off the train???
Can only think of two reasons. You want to renounce Worldly wealth or are just plain crazy. If you think it is bad in the $4 range wait until we hit double digits. Ain't felt like this since UPL, it is in the ground and we got it.
Yep, I agree with the tone of what you say Quimper.
I've been thru all this a lot of times. My serious money is in dividend paying stocks now but I do have enough in a few of these specs to still make some serious money.
This is starting to remind me of one Tech spec I chased for the better part of over a decade. Eventually I did make some very serious money but everything was always a secret and the company never promoted their own company. Everything was always "Coming" and they never seemed to be able to follow a stated game plan. Milestones had this way of coming and going, always excuses. Wait till next year.
Eventually that Tech did finally get products out the door, was making good profits, the SP had one good run up and then fell back and has basically gone no where. They run it like their own candy store, them and their buddies they kept giving jobs. I'm long gone. But from pennies well into dollars and I had a good amount. Lot of the same things attract in a bunch of these, small share issues, huge potentials, hopefully a killer business. You want a well run penny stock that turns into a growth company that ain't afraid to have the World know about it.
This idea of boocoo years out, forget it. They have to be able to build a game plan, tie it all together and give some idea of a time line forward and then show they can hit mile stones with some success. About like getting a report card. So, I might give them a C- and I'm being generous, all the real excitement is down the road.
Not that it can't happen. I did get into a graphite miner up in Canada. Same deal, you can project wild SP down the road. All for good reasons. Stock has done extremely well, from a few pennies to over $4 and climbing. The company does seem to understand the power of good PR and they are performing. Tell the World when you hit your milestones. Maybe two years out to some form of production. Profits could be off the charts. But that one you can understand the plan and timeline. Hopefully each step forward pushes the SP like it should. Never happens with IGXT. Pays you money takes you chances. Bad thing about something like that was the critical details were not really known before it took off. Wish I had a lot more.
Time for IGXT to get it together. It is possible to do decent PR without giving away the store. This idea they have to hide everything under a bushel basket is crap. Creating interest from the investing public is not a bad thing. Anything they do manage to say always seem to come out either totally flat, understated or mostly negative. Nobody gets excited, never anything pushes the stock. Time to promote themselves in the best light possible.
Get somebody in charge that can, more to being the boss than messing with a few pills. You need the technical performance, but somebody also must know about it. After all they pretend to be a public company, act like one.
Well they need to have some method of finally trying to fully lay out the future direction of the company. This last foobaa is not covered in any of the prior statements about what was planned. Some of it is in full conflict with what was prior stated.
The Website does not fully express what they intend to do, if they even know at this point. Feels too much like hack and smash.
The prior lack of performance on the ForFivo does not exactly give confidence in anything they say. I still haven't figured out what exactly the involvement or planning or scope of what PAR involvement was. Who exactly is running this exercise? The prior statement that this could be the most important drug for PAR makes you wonder. The news was greeted with less than fanfare. At least learn to put a good spin on less than a great apparent development.
Feels like hack and smash and that is the plan. Plus raise more money. Sure hope they know what to do with it. And soon. Would not hurt to tell the stockholders why they should continue to believe in much of anything. Not the way to run a public company.
Getting the share price up is not a crime. Is the next thing a salary increase and lots more benefits for them??? I've got a profit, starts to question a lot of things. In particular developing in your own mind what might be the timeline forward.
Like I say, their idea about shareholders, suxs. Not going to cause a bunch of new ones with present mode of operation.
Can't say I start to understand this whole event.
Supposely this is the PAR deal. If so it seems to be done badly. For sure from a PR viewpoint. Ok, PAR sezs no details can be given out but it also appears whatever this drug is in some final form it may have competition and be in a sort of higher risk category of ever making it into the market very soon. Maybe even some sort of lawsuit. Anyhow maybe delays.
I can understand IGXT screwing up but should not have PAR had it far better wired. Or maybe it is and all the confusion is part of the plan.
Anyway, Gary may have saved the day. Folks like him will sell off rather quick and hopefully things become more stable with maybe some for real good news. Stock goes up and those who got nervous get to see what the back of the bus looks like. I would like for something to work according to plan for once. Still got my seat on the bus, left side 5C. No more bath room calls please. Get it on the road.
Thanks, it will go up for sure now. Always does.
Exactly, I'm confused too.
Why does anybody think this has something to do with PAR?
Sounds a bit like it is a replacement film for RB. They had some other film, some type of problem with it, got IGXT to help them out. Sounds like a deal between RB and IGXT, what does PAR have to do with it?
Somehow got to be good news. But would be good to have better explanations of exactly what is going on.
Exactly, it could never have passed the required smell test for any real banker or investment types putting real money at risk based on projected production. How much stock do they now claim to hold? Been its own lil game within a game.
The part that never made any sense was this idea that some legit banker types was willing to give them real money. The real scam must be far deeper than thought. How did the banker types make money?
That sort of sezs they never held any shares in any real amounts for any time.So probably a lot more too than is known. Those types of activities are way against the rules. I can't see even any trader types trying to jump back in with any amounts of money. Too many other better opportunities, lots of promotions and "She ain't what we say it is", always proceed at your own risk. Lots of it about.
I never thought they were getting real money as stated. Always that it had to be some type of kick back scheme with pretend finances. Who, what and how being the question in details. Probably a lot of illegal stock trading as they pumped it up and then dumped stock.
How many holes do you figure they will drill in the West side? IIRC they were going to be done in maybe August or somewhere in that time frame?. About how long is it taking per hole on the average?
No doubt about it, hold this puppy longer term. Starting to feel like playing UPL. At a certain point you got the feeling this puppy is worth a whole lot more. Exactly how much, you never know but a lot more than $3. And it should not take forever to get to the Promised Land. The chuckle part is having been able to buy it so cheap. Wish I had gotten a lot more around $.30.
I don't know that the players are believers. They just want the stock price to move. I ain't got the guts to play it again. Game is long in the tooth.
Am starting to wonder why somebody at like the SEC is not giving them a hard look. That whole format of we are saying this but nothing is official should be kicking up lots of red flags. Be interesting to see if anybody is willing to give them more money.
I doubt they can run the share price to previous levels which is the big thing that keeps me from playing it again. Better pickings in the breccia type graphite companies and that might turn out to be for real. One thing to get the SP moving, another to keep it going.
One of a kind deposit but those other two guys trying to horn in on the action. What do folks think about Brookemont and Cavan? Are they going to be in the same category? Are they worth buying at this point? Is it saying this is a strange type far bigger potential field? Many pipes over a larger area.
Woo, they have optimized and reoptimized and gone to complex chlorine chemistry and still no Gold in the paw. But they sezs there was gold and they got some. But wait a minute that was not "official". They will mod the hydroclone with crapaloy, do fast stir and mix routines. But because of all the other slag piles in the World, it can never be official.
Now you see it, now you don't. More testing, testing to infinity. God where do they get men like this. Could pixs of large gold bars be next??? You are into recovery in a semi wantabee pilot mode but burning up the gold for to out the truth for pure science. Surely the best and brightest down in the trenches struggling against all odds.
Somebody hold me back. These boys are good, damn good.
Seawater, they will move it all to the coast. Probably next to a golf course. The slag pile will be held in Reserve. When in doubt reorganize.
You can test seawater and find all sorts of wonderful things. Separate them out and sell the salt and minerals. The waste product is plain olde water and that can be sprayed on the golf course. They can ship all that test equipment and reuse it. Also Gold in seawater along with whale doo. In a pinch the slag pile can be re-commissioned. I would keep all the testing in the off shore locations going. Such skill is required, another team can not be reassembled very easy.
Wonder if them top cheese boys is planning a pay cut, naw. They are worth the money.
Wow, GOLD, Maybe they should just put some boots on the ground and go up in them thar hills.
Testing and nice paychecks. Maybe that is why them thar boys ain't tromping them thar hills. Don't have to break a sweat. Leave them picks and shovels in the shed.
Maybe time to raise some more Capital. Sign up another foreign consultant. Wonder how the Big Boy is doing on that golf course in Florida??? Got to keep the important stuff in mind. Get all that GOLD in good time. Check out that #9 hole, dog leg left.
ForFivo is like anyother pill, you got to follow the rules for taking it.
As noted, one does not just start to take it cold turkey. You are supposed to be on a lower dose with other pills for a period, usually a few weeks, before even trying it. The doctor is supposed to understand how to do it. Plus is supposed to give out the info of what side effects to look out for. Got to be communication in the game.
The one so called report of bad drug is surely bogus. Duh, as pointed out there is no lower amounts, they aren't supposed to cut the pill either AFAIK. Just follow instructions. Can do it wrong anyway you like, don't try to cask the blame afterwards.
Just about no pill works 100% for all the population, can't label a pill as a bad drug becuase of adverse reaction by a small percent who try it. Part of the pill pushing game, change pills.
So far it does look like ForFivo is finding a user population and slowly but surely the word will get around that it is one to try. I would suspect nursing homes to be big users. Just having to give and track one pill a day is a huge advantage in those situations. Cost factor seems to not be an issue.
Give it all time, we will get there.
Well ForFivo is now available thru Express Scripts and that might be a hidden factor.
The folks at Express Scripts will sometimes call you or tell you via their website when something interesting is available for a particular patient and they can help getting the word to a doctor.
The example is somebody popping a bunch of pills and they could change over to just a single pill. Express Scripts moves a lot of pills and they tend to also provide information to their clients when something new is available that might be better. They also make it easy to request it via the patients own doctor.
IGXT needs all the help they can get. Somebody got to get the word out to the folks that need it.
The selective emitter thing is a bit difficult to judge how ground breaking a thing they may have.
The whole area has been worked on for years and apparently there is no one super good method available right now. Nothing that can be put into a manufacturing line.
Here is a couple of articles, a bit old but the first one lays out a lot of what they are trying to do and some of the methods being tried.
http://www.solarnovus.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1810:getting-more-charge-from-solar-the-challenges-of-selective-emitter&Itemid=246
http://www.earthtechling.com/2013/05/ones-to-watch-mit-clean-energy-winners/
Some of the things said in the second article are a bit of a puzzle. They claim huge economic advantages but also it is difficult to judge if they are anywhere close to being able to sell something that works.
The part about how many cells get produced per hour in a big company might be part of the problem. Whatever method it has to be able to keep up in speed with the rest of the process.
Other things might be involved.
There is a slight variation in characteristics between cells as they are made. Everybody tries to keep that to an absolute minimum. Many of them probably test all cells and try to match cells into groups with something close to absolute same specs.
Some of all this stuff also might be involved in the failure rate on solar panels in the field. A lot of it today is probably a type of trade off. Performance verus reliability in a sense.
So hopefully Natcore is on to something and their methods are cheap, fast and give superior quality results. But I would also caution anything in the solar game requires a super amount of testing. Nobody probably will risk a product change over in design without having some very good idea of how it will work longer term. It would be nice to be able to get paid for the first prototype type batch which could be a fairly big run and is really a test run. That would promote more risk taking.
Here is one place I think the Government screws up. If they want to spend money to promote solar. Provide a major site dedicated to testing solar panels, buy / pay for prototype panel designs and publish results. Quit spending taxpaper money to support daily production. Everybody is probably wary to spending in many research / breakthru type areas because once you put it into the first panels there is also a big risk.
The techies and the business types probably have different views. The techies want the most cutting edge technology quickly into panels but the business types know about warranty problems and all the rest of it if any of the technology does not immediately work as promised.
I still think the big guys like GE should be looking to have some type relationship with Natcore if they really want to be in the solar game. Yes, they probably never will get some type of excusive complete total control of any development but they ain't doing much on their own either.
Hopefully the Government is going to see the light and finally start to put more money into applied research like what Natcore does. There is where you get the most bang for the taxpayer buck.
Here hoping it helps the SP but we do need to finally start to sell something too.
rkt9, that idea of electrons being able to knock other electrons loose is not new. In strict theory, you should be able to cause a cascade effect, not just one extra electron. Sort of like what night vision technology does only in a sort of reverse.
Problem being it is mostly Ivory Tower type talking. Nobody even if they sort of prove the principal, ever works on actual industrial applied application. There is some wild lab discovery every week.
Some of it also is being worked on for communications applications, that same fancy coating stuff involved. Maybe some progress there.
Lil Natcore is different, they try to do the real stuff and apply it in the real World. Probably could have been a lot further along if the Government did not have their head in the sand. Interesting that they might have sort of solved this emitter thing in a relatively short time.
Be interesting to see what techniques they finally can develop. We probably don't know a bunch of what they are working on. Something got to be in the works, still can't figure why do you need a lot more space? So far no good answers in my book. Finally the working conditions, equipment and overall environment might be there for very significant break thru in a number of areas. Got to hope like all start up techs, we got the staying power / cash.