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Not to mention the wording on this means the news is TERRIBLE! This news will be BK BABY!!!! Laky will be feeding his family at BK soon enough! Lol
I hear you...but if you think about it they have tried just about every othe strategy known to man so why not take a chance at managing the boards...create a buzz and increase more gamblers lol...what could they possibly do worse? We already expect them to announce the doors closing...
Finally you admit a sinking boat is upon us and the pump a big day from this loser...where is your crazy head at? Just give up already horns...there isn't a chance in hell they open any centers let alone MANY! Come on my man your blinded by your mega millions lottery brain and not your intuitive one..
JRG you went wrong when you said "the general consensus" and you told him you were an MCLN investor! Why wouldn't he direct you to Cameron??? Are you kidding me? You sounded annoyed in the email first of all and he is legally not going to say anything about another company. You should have simply asked him about his company and what the partnership means! Come on buddy I thought you were smarter than that! Guy all of us are letting our anger and frustration get in the way of our investing mind and myself included! Let's be smart about what we say to them. It's in our best interest to do so and stop letting the cat out of the bag do early on. We want information we don't want to piss people off!
Laky needs ankle monitoring bracelet so that we could have strapped him to it and made sure he was on pending contract arrest and worked the damn contracts we supposedly had in the pipe and not worry about another partnership on a whole new product with much smaller profit margins and a whole lot more sales needed to gain sustainability! This is asinine! There's a reason he's the only one left pretty much from the original team...Patton knows what's up everyone else needs to wipe the crustys from their eyes And WAKE UP!
All I have to say is ANOTHER CO-MARKETING AGREEMENT OR PARTNERSHIP OR WHATEVER THE He$$ you want to call it... ARE WE REALLY SERIOUS RIGHT NOW??? THIS MEANS WE ARE SIMPLY IN A BRAND NEW BUSINESS ALL TOGETHER AND GOD KNOWS THE RISK AND PROBABILITY OF A NEW BUSINESS BEING SUCCESSFULLY...this just means there is a 99% chance we all lose all our money now...just up from 98% with their dog of an autoclave.
Bymsh...it is good work but how in the world is Ttxhorns excited that you did good work when this is HORRIBLE NEWS! I called stericycle And they answer the phone professionally. Wake up people this is a company that doesn't even answer the PHONE PROPERLY!!!! This is a bogus company with illegal insider things going on like whoa!!!
We need a thorough sec investigation here please! I have already done a lot of prelim work and no one in their right mind should invest in this thing ever again!
Woahh SELLING! Is there something wrong with the after hours trading or do I see hundreds of millions of shares being sold? Someone else please take a look at this!!! ASAP!
Ttxhorns! You say you expect good news every single day bro. It's time for you to admit this dog is dying!
Processing centers are NOT the answer as you have already seen! NO RESULTS!
Are you serious with the logo on trucks idea? Are you kidding? Do you think this business does landscaping or something? So you think the odds of a decision maker at hospital seeing a truck with an MCLN logo on it is beneficial? You need a million trucks just so they even have a chance at seeing it. Sometimes I wonder why people waste their time posting comments...
MCLN doesn't even have a business model now
TWITTER DISASTER FOR MCLN!
How dumb could they really be. If you go on the first page of their website, and click on the Twitter link at the bottom of the page, it's supposed to bring you to their twitter page.
They made the mistake of actually linking their own twitter page to the WRONG account.
THEIR TWITTER PAGE IS LINKED TO A TWITTER USER THAT USES THE WORD NED CLEAN AS THEIR USERNAME, HOWEVER THE ACTUAL TWITTER PAGE OF MCLEAN IS A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT ONE.
THE WRITING IS EVEN IN SPANISH!
let's be serious folkes serious company doesn't even link their website to the correct twitter page and feed?
It's an absolute JOKE! We should all give up on this one and move on to another penny! RIP MCLN
P.s. who doesn't test if their twitter link works? Lol such a pathetic joke! Have you ever seen a real company successful or not make this kind of ridiculous and immature mistake! PATHETIC!
Reverse Split - My biggest fear from Day 1. I have said it numerous times on here in the last two months. When I bought this stock three years ago, I said to myself, that with the amount of outstanding shares this company had that I am taking a huge risk here with the great possibility of the company REVERSE SPLITTING THIS STOCK. Due to the MM's and horrible share price. Any move in a positive direction here may warrant a reverse split simply to improve the value proposition of the share price to new investors. Unfortunately all the existing guys like me and you are going to get totally screwed is this happens!
However, the company would need to have good news first and actually turn the ship around for us to even start talking about this. At this price right now new investors wouldn't buy so I truly believe a reverse split would not happen until the share price did not move at all pending positive news and/or earnings!
People seem to forget that positive earnings at this point doesn't mean the price of this stock will go up...investors actually need to want to own this company and at this point it's just not going to happen. It's an utter piece of trash...and deserve's this title to the fullest!
You need an iPhone with the iHub app and it won't be slow especially on wifi
AUTOCLAVE FOR SURGERY EVERYONE! Breaking news!!!
MCLN has just announced a breakthrough in the medical field according to Green Harvester!
Did you know their autoclave systems can fit in the ER and they just installed swing arms that look like giant tentacles that not only assist the physician during surgery but they clean up after just like a wife would after dinner!!!!
We want to thank you Green Harvester for bringing us this breaking NEWS!
I really hope someone has a sense of humor here and aren't all squares because you need to have some fun with this or else you will be miserable wondering of MCLN is going to pop up on the 250th page of a google search somewhere with any words at all out of an executives mouth!
Patton your post made my night and I certainly laughed!
No but will soon!
Lakey needs to read this!
Has anyone here read a great book called "the lean startup?"
Well if you have the principles and fundamentals of this book, are the perfect strategic examples that medclean should absolutely model their existing business after.
The problem here, is that medclean is running their business off of the traditional business structure and implementation plan. There is much planning. In fact they're trying their best to stick to their specific business plan. A lack of change in policy from our government is not allowing medclean to follow the path that was originally set out for them. We thought that our government would crack down on the monopolization of corporate America which has clearly not taking place in this industry specifically.
MCL and has not had one post, one single stinking post on Twitter in God knows how long. Is there basic and core fundamental problem here is the fact that there is an utter and total lack of innovation on behalf of the Medclean executives at this point in time.
Business today and specifically the technology that drives businesses has changed so rapidly and fast, that the only way to compete in this type of market, is to take on and implement seriously nontraditional business strategies. The technology around us is going to continue to change rapidly therefore do you think that we're going to have enough time to stick to a specific business plan and model like we have done for centuries in the past?
The answer simply is no. They seriously need to take this into consideration and adopt a business model based on innovation, specifically the management of innovation. The main reason I get so mad with the lack of communication, is because that is the one form of marketing that they must adopt and catch up with the times here. If Lakey considers himself an entrepreneur well he better start acting like one. They have currently no way to test results and consumer satisfaction. They have no system in place to monitor this. They should be developing products and not planning to finish them, they should be developing them and putting them to test on the market before they're even close to ready. They need to learn all over again what it is their end-user and consumer really wants and will buy and what will be successful. Businesses like MCL and spend all this time building a business based on a plan that was put together, and spend all that time money and resource without a product that they even know is going to be successful. In fact, with the way technology and products are changing so rapidly in the marketplace today it is imperative that a company like this takes baby steps it and invents multiple product lines and tests multiple products at the same time.
Simply put, why should you waste any of yours and your investors time and money on a plan that you don't know if it's going to be successful in today's marketplace.
I apologize for this being the long and most people probably won't even read it however I really feel like that is one of the best books of modern business and technology times and Medclean better start adopting these business principles of its not too late!
I totally agree with you PaulGolfa!
I cannot help but get frustrated though when some people on here just repeat the same thing over and over again about how there's going to be a breakout in the market today. Mcln is going to sore today. It's tiresome it really is.
But hey, that's freedom of speech I guess.
Patton, you are correct in your assessment of Stericycle. The whole reason I invested in MCL and was because of the news report that came out regarding the government wanting hospitals to be able to be self sufficient on their own in the event of a natural disaster.
In my estimation at the time, this was the competitive advantage that MCLN had in that market time. Usually, when the government decides to implement new policy regarding something of this nature, it means big rewards for small companies that can gain access into the industry.
However, the Obama administration has been absolutely of abysmal with implementing their medical policies. They have done SQUAT NILCH!!!! This issue hasn't even come up again during re-election speeches. God for bid a Republican wins this next campaign we can forget about MCLN for sure.
Unfortunately this is just one of those cases that the government actually didn't get what it set out to do and wanted. That's why am MCKN is having such a hard time and they will continue to do so.
Unless any structural change comes from the government this is a dying stock.
I was previously in the pharmaceutical sales industry for a middle sized company in the US. This is absolutely the one industry that you don't want to be the small guy on the totem pole. If the top guys are at Stericycle are already influencing the top guys at the hospitals, then you might as well just put MCLN and to sleep. Do a little Google search on the corruption of big Pharma and see what you come up with.
I'm starting to wonder why Lakey and his sales team even considered taking these positions. They should've just interviewed at least one former rep at a small-cap company whose competing against the larger pharmaceutical companies and they would've had their answer instantaneously.
Without a doubt they would chose a different company to start a venture with.
WHERE? Google Earth!!! COME ON WHAT ABOUT HIS VACATION HOMES! U FORGOT ABOUT THOSE!
They are NO LONGER AT 3 trowbridge!
They are in PA that's old news as well come on now!!!
Exactly the point why no good news could possibly come out of this supposed conference call at the end of the month. If there is good news then certainly information has been withheld!
Then if this is the case, there is still hope on those 9 other pending contracts.
My fear is that MCLN will reverse split even if it starts doing well just because of how many outstanding shares there are at this point.
The quality of the medclean system if you say it's as good as you are saying, and 7 other locations in California use the medclean system, why haven't we heard about the installs? Will these be reported in the conference? If they are then i Will go back to what Patron has said and there is absolutely something criminal about withholding this information!
We are just in a bad situation simply put!
We haven't seen this many shares dumped in one day in a while. If they come out with poor earnings again...can't you guarantee this was insider information? Why don't they have a better team in place to stop the mm's from doing this? It just seems really obvious and fishy to me. Im not buying that they are getting ready for new buyers come on let's be serious.
Jrg you can thank me later! Lol
You made me laugh Patton is just mad we are scaring away all the mm's..oh wait those guys made all their money already remember? Lol...let's face it they might as well line us all up in a straight line and put our shirts over our heads and spray us in the di$& w/ SUPER SOAKERS...laughing because we gave Laky all our money
This ALL STAR MANAGEMENT TEAM...proposed to all of us and we decided to marry them...we then realized we were married to someone that didn't exist and they fell off the face of the earth...and we just have to chalk one up for the team...
PATRON ...sorry buddy your gonna lose your shirt like the rest of us and there is no hope...I know your wife is gonna say "I told you so" along with all your pissed off buddies who don't talk to you anymore because of your great penny stock tip you gave them.
Can anyone say BOILER ROOM.... LOL hey if It makes u feel any better I'm an idiot obviously too lol
By the way apparently brazil thinks you can put enough demolizers in a hospital...clearly they do by that 13 million...if you put it in every doctors office why not put it in every room in a hospital even if the hospital had 1,000 rooms that's only a thousand units re re....sounds like a good idea to me!
PATTON I DO KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!
That is the new strategy of medclean they are getting into the same market as the Demolizer I guess you didn't read the last press release very carefully with their smaller mobile systems. It's the new strategy remember. "the autoclave traditional unit is a very tough sell!" I understand it's a different product and it's desktop. But I also understand its a better one thats why of course it's completely different.
Also I was just making a statement that they are actually closing their contracts sub $1 stock price. They have good news and are just as big of a company as medclean and we have "NO NEWS"
They have success and we have no success! Simple as that! I don't care if the unit is feces operated as long as you have a sales team in place that can sell it...OH WAIT WE OUTSOURCE OUR SALES TO ALL THOSE PARTNERSHIP AGREEMENTS WE FORMED WITH ALL THOSE GREAT MEDICAL PROVIDERS...and not ONE STINKING SALE MENTIONED??? Are you serious?
13 million medical waste units sold to Brazil!
http://www.marketwire.com/press-release/biomedical-technology-solutions-holdings-inc-announces-thirteen-million-dollar-sale-otcbb-bmtl-1633434.htm
MCLN What are you doing???
BMTL which is a medical waste competitor of Medclean just signed a 13 million dollar contract offer with Brazil! And medclean can't make a single sale.
Isn't the portable smaller containers a big part of their new strategy? Well this company seems to be doing well and they are a penny stock. I'm going to buy them since they are doing something productive here. Check out the link!
This machine looks like a game changer and their website looks like the old medclean site!
See you don't need a beautiful website to be a good company but now they can take some of that 13million to build a new one and not our money like medclean did.
I HAVE A QUESTION FOR EVERYONE!
If you were an investor today will NO PREVIOUS MONEY INVESTED IN MEDCLEAN...Ask yourself...
Would you buy this stock today?
I'm not saying to bring your average value down in hopes to bring back your initial investment with your fingers crossed. The people who have done this...don't bother answering the question...I'm asking this to the educated investor who never heard of the company before and is starting their due diligence right this second.
I WILL NOT BE NEGATIVE ANYMORE.
I will try my best I'm sorry if I'm just giving my true opinion but some of you gamblers just can't face the real facts.
Let me
LET'S LOOK AT THEIR EARNINGS!
Did you really say lets look at their earnings? If you have a problem with my negativity then please respond with something that actually gives anyone on here a positive frame of mind. Earnings aren't going to cut it!
In fact they will make it worse. Look at how many outstanding shares there are. They would need to maintain a positive cash flow while sustaining growth for a long long time in order for us to have a chance to save this stock from a reverse split. We will all wake up one day and see that we have half as many shares as we do now and because of the tremendous lack of earnings on the so called QUARTERLY REPORTS YOU SPEAK OF....the price will tank right back down to where we are today within a few days and we will have half as much money as we do now! So even if we get positive news this company won't have near the stock price valuation any of us feel is remotely acceptable.
If you know your stuff then you would know that dilution at this rate is doomed for a reverse split at some point ESPECIALLY IF THE STOCK PRICE AND COMPANY START DOING WELL! This is the smartest thing the company could do if they have positive cash flow because new investors will pay more. Unfortunately the existing investors get shalacked!
By the way the quarter after quarter progress you seem to believe is simply because of debt reduction and operating cost reduction by cutting existing manufacturing and production costs. This means nothing other than look good you.
I hope there is great news! I've just been waiting a long time and will continue to do so. I'm certainly NOT holding my breathe!
Hayden IR Message!
YOU HAVE WORKED FOR MCLN????
I love how random people come on this board and post positive messages like the one we all have just seen.
I wouldn't be surprised if this is someone from inside the company just keeping this board at bay and changing the topic at hand.
HAyden Himself... Said "the autoclave market is extremely Tough." "the company thought they had a good plan and had to restructure it to now devise a new plan" "I am certainly not holding my breath."
Guys let's be serious how many plans are they going to throw at the wall hoping one of them sticks?
R.I.P. Medclean
P.S. this guy who claims he worked with mcln system. If its so great then we would have already sold another unit based on word of mouth alone and not go 1-10 on proposals and submitted contract bids!
10 million shares sold at 4 PM today!
all day was a great day only 500,000 shares sold between millions were bought you think there's positive news and bad at 4 PM 10 million shares were sold.
Someone knows something and that something does not look very good.
Someone knows something!! Lol
Problem from day one!
Back in 2010 we all got duped into thinking that this company was actually making money and if they were based on the balance sheets then switching the management team was the worst move that this company could have ever done.
However, the way that we really got to do was we all thought that there was something proprietary about there auto cleats system. I should've known not to invest in this company being that I was previously a pharmaceutical sales rep for a company.
This industry happens to be the easiest way for corporate America to extract money out of every day investors who are not involved in the industry and do not have the knowledge of the product itself to gain an accurate assessment of the potential future growth. It's easy to make their system look great on paper with crossing your T's and dotting the eyes when it comes to selling the public but I would say when you have nine contracts that are pending obviously there's competition, and the truth of the matter is is that the competition got the deals and not medclean. We don't even know what stage these contracts were in negotiations. For all we know they could've just made a phone call and set up a meeting with a potential client that was still going to meet with three other companies including Stericycle or waste management.
No wonder why the management team never told us what companies they were in talks with. The reason for this is plain and simple we would all be able to see which competitor actually got the job.
Hayden IR may have mentioned that Lakey doesn't sleep, and that's because he knows he isn't going to be able to suck more money out of us.
Therefore, by keeping utter silence it leaves us normal folks in the blind, crossing our fingers, thinking that there is no way we can go 0-9!
We all know what happens when you go 0-9. You end up riding the pine baby!
It's like the old saying, it ain't over until the fat lady sings! I can only pray that Laky has the strength to tackle her one more time that she steps up to the microphone.
Warm Regards,
Bruce All Mighty
Bymish I am right there with you. I did not intend on coming across that angry because I'm really not. I lost all my money in this baby a long time ago. I'm thinking no news is good news because it means the company is still in business lol. I'm afraid that any news right now will be the end of the road. I have never posted on here but I have frequently read everything that has been said. For instance look at the last big news which was a partnership with triumvirate. All they are is basically a consulting firm with a million other partnerships that I am assuming medclean asked them to include their product in their portfolio of many others. If you go an take a look at Triumverates website you will see a fourth grader could have made that website. Like I said throwing shit to the wall and hoping it sticks!
That's another thing. I can't believe we wasted money and time revamping the medclean website if no new business was coming in. I am sure Laky didn't do the site himself. It certainly cost upwards of 50-100k which could have been used on a full years salary of dedicated sales rep working directly for medclean and not some partnership with a company that doesn't really care wether medclean survives or not. I know if they paid me 75k a year I would sell 1 new autoclave unit every single month! I don't get it I really dont! This is just unacceptable how pathetic and non existent their sales process actually is! I truly believe when this company decided to outsource its sales reps is where it went entirely wrong!
Bruce
TtxHorns Imwta reply!
That is great but I can devise a word document with some schematics just like Rey did about a new processing center PLAN! That means absolutely nothing and if they had already set up a partnership we would have heard an announcement when it happened from medclean or it's partner.
Are we supposed to think that all of a sudden they can start and entirely new business model and be successful when they have sold ONE STINKING AUTOCLAVE SYSTEM IN THENLAST YEAR WITH A CONFIRMED INSTALLATION!
If it comes to light that we have any of those other pending contract offers out there announced as sold installs then of course I will be happy but if they strategically sat on this info until the meeting then I believe that is ethically wrong and we would have to believe this was done for the purpose of insider activity and trading. Think about it. When most other company's have a product that is being brought to market there are news outlets reporting the product launch years before it happens and we always are in the loop with regards to progression.
The problem here is we spent so much damn time worrying and shifting focus when in reality the investors should have put an ankle monitoring bracelet on Laky and made sure he was out selling new autoclave units to hospitals to get their damn money back.
I am sorry I have to be so pessimistic but there is not a single solid strategy that has worked so far and this is all just desperation tactics having to choose strategies that work with no capital to fund the proper one. It's like throwing as much shit at a wall as you can and hoping something sticks!
I cannot sell and I won't. I also will just hope this is over as soon as possible! Misery loves company!
Bruce "signing off!"
You are rigt we aren't going to get it back. For most of us however there is no way to even get out of the company right now. We are all down to penny's this is why everyone is so mad. If the lack of management speaking to the public is so that they can continue to give false hope and steal money from the investors then that's the problem here. If there is new news then great! However, if management shuts down because of angry investors then that's just ridiculous and tell them to grow a set of balls. They get paid very well and I'm sorry if that comes with having to deal with angry investors but man up and realize how ridiculous that sounds!
Does anyone care to realize that HIR states "the penny stock environment is littered with dishonest people and that has certainly not helped the situation." therefore, am I missing something. In order to make an accusation like that wouldn't one think there is significant and substantial proof that he must have beyond a reasonable doubt that one or many individuals have manipulated the stock price here ILLEGALLY! Since most of us are true believers in this company and only want to see our hard earned money go to use and yield the benefits we all keep our fingers crossed for. Well if such evidence or accusations are true, doesn't HIR have a ethical responsibility to being forward these accusations to the FTC so that we can bring the price of this stock back to reality. Let's face it, if there was any good news on this company wouldn't we hear it from one of the so called "partners" at least. Wouldn't there be some positive news out of the MedAssets camp if one of these machines was sold? Maybe Hayden is just putting the blame on others because he PERSONALLY knows Laky and the eRrsearch team and is just avoiding the fact that this company has nothing to say and are simply trying to string us along quarter after quarter! I have been a long time reader here but never a poster and have paid close attention to what everyone has said. TTXHorns...you must have a billion shares in this company but we all know you have no influence of this stock price because if someone buys 10 shares of this stock we can all be assure the great "somebody knows something" is to be posted next.
I took it upon myself to call Barnett and inquire about one of the Medclean Autoclave units. The woman that answered had NO CLUE WHAT MEDCLEAN SYSTEM EVEN WAS!!!! And had some other guy call me back a week later. All these partnerships are BS. HIR said it himself. "we have to hope the partners do their job as well in order for success" what sales model ever works when we have to rely on someone else who doesn't even have a vested interest in the company? ZERO!!!
Trust me I only have 150,000 shares at .028 and have lost it all this far. I keep hoping that some news will come up one of these days but I am certainly not buying it right now. If they were so busy worrying about creating shareholder value then they would be rushing to tell us when Laky took a crap on a daily basis. Something inside is going on here and it needs to go public. I will not stop digging the dirt and when they announce the company is going out of business I am ready to form a team of you guys to help me dig. Anyone that is willing to help let me know! If they turn it around then great. But the reality is we sat at the blackjack table in Vegas with our money and we are all praying that our last 10 bucks can bring us back to even. The odds are slim to none and slim just left town!
Take care all!
Bruce
MCLN website was just redesigned and launched today! If you notive under partners there are some areas where new partners are coming soon! This would mean new upcoming press releases which should make the stock price rise. Anyone who gets out of mcln today is a fool!
Inside the contracts that have been formed over the past year shows what seems to be a very strategic plan or terrible coincidence. In my professional experience, coincidence is most likely NOT the case.
If you really follow Medclean then you would know that there was a partnership with Vestara (www.vestara.com) that was formed toward the end of 2009. This was a co-marketing partnership wherein they would work off one another in marketing their products together. Please read: http://medcleantechnologies.blogspot.com/2010/01/importance-of-medclean-vestara.html.
Scott Grisanti mentions the importance of Vestara and how their ecorex system is ideal for implementation of the medclean system. The reason this is so important is because of the events that have unfolded since then that are very intriguing. Vestara soon afterward forms a partnership with medassets which is no coincidence that medclean already had an agreement and had something to do with Vestara obtaining this agreement.
A couple of weeks ago Vestara announces that they have signed an agreement with EXP Pharmaceuticals which is in charge of implementing systems within 75% of the hospitals in the entire country. You can read the article here: http://www.vestara.com/press_releases.php?cat=4&page=11.
Vestara will be imnplementing EcoRex into 5,000 hospitals within the next year! The kicker here is we have already seen what Medclean has potentially brought to the table for Vestara. Therefore, DO NOT FORGET ABOUT THE EXISTING CO-MARKETING AGREEMENT BETWEEN VESTARA AND MEDCLEAN BECAUSE MEDCLEAN NOW HAS 5,000 HOSPITALS THAT IT NOW HAS ACCESS TO SIMPLY BECAUSE OF OUR CO-MARKETING PARTNER VESTARA!
Anyone who ignores the research I have done may truly be sorry in the end that they did not invest. I do not believe that this is some weird coincidence but rather a carefully planned strategy by Medclean that will be announcing the benefit of this agreement by new system implementation in many of these new hospitals ANY DAY NOW!
Oddly, Medclean's name was left out of the press release with Vestara. I am willing to bet that EXP Pharma and Medclean will have some type of agreement that will be announced very soon and the stock price of Medclean will SOAAAARRRRRRR!!!!!!