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I have said my peace and wish no harm on anyone.
One day you will wake up and realize the same.(hopefully)
No I am out of PTOS from the last short and cover. Will not ever be back in it.
when I make another 5% on other ESCL short, Will be out soon.
It figures you use words like magic. theres no magic dude, just hard work and faith. Try it. No need to cheat anyone.
You would rather lose everything on PTOS to a penny.
I forgot you are on the inside.
Back at ya. Smart guy.
things are different in New York, than where you are.
To Funny.
Blah, Blah, Blah
Pretty sure everyone has lost their money on this.
The stock is still a penny.
Maybe they need to hire CCG?
By the way I went short on ECSL about 10 days ago. Thanks for the tip. Already up 20%.
Your retorts really make no sense.
The stock is at a penny!!! What hard work and accomplishments are you referring to? Nothing has been accomplished and there is no sign of work.
Having faith is great, but show me your faith by your works. Faith without works is dead. What due diligence do you keep shouting. There is no project! THE STOCK IS AT A PENNY!
Mark, John, Frank, Bob, whatever. The stock is at a penny.
Your words and this close study of DD means nothing. People have been misguided continually. Sub penny here soon.
Soon? Hasn't it been 12 years since inception? No Revenue on any project or business plan? Solar or Parking meters etc...
Come on Mark, I know its your job to represent, But.
Am I misreading the history?
There is NO news.
This company was founded in 1990 and changed names and business plans so many times its funny.
Sorry chromospere you were taken like so many others. Don't listen to the insiders posting on this board.
OK I'm Done.
Apparently you are saying that the shares sold by the company to the public were not used to fund the debt.
I am saying that people who bought PTOS shares had their investment used by the company for whatever debt they have been acquiring...such as travel, paychecks, rent, car expenses, Solarise whatever...
My point is that for having 6-8 million in debt and 50+ million shares outstanding and no money left, what was the advancement in the company for share holder value? Solarise? what? no one knows. Don't tell me that 6 million got them closer to a contract when they are back to sqaure one in India and now they can't pay the small rent. And why did they forgive the lawsuit?
Nothing adds up, never has. Just smoke and mirrors.
Nice 10Q
Highlight...The Company was incorporated as Spectrum Trading Inc. under the laws of the Province of British Columbia, Canada, on November 21, 1990. On May 14, 1999, the Company was discontinued in British Columbia and was reincorporated as Spectrum International Inc. in the State of Delaware, U.S.A. Effective September 3, 2004, the Company changed its name from Spectrum International Inc. to Natco International Inc. On March 11, 2009, the Company changed its name from the Natco International Inc. to P2 Solar, Inc. The Company is in the development stage and has had no revenue since inception.
I thought you said Raj didn't get paid anything. The 10Q says different.
How does this company have 6 million in debt and pay that debt with NO revenue since inception. Stock holder funds!!!!!!
And you are saying that everything is OK just keep waiting and buying...........
Thats your comeback? Really! I was in and out of NIVS in 3 days making a .38 profit and 6K.
MDXX and EGCT are breakthroughs for you.
I won't continue this idiotic debate with you as you are obviously a novice trying to push pennies to make a buck.
The price of PTOS is proof enough. Can't argue the facts. O'h but of course you will.
India, Bulgaria, Canada, America and Korea,and a super panel are all right around the corner. Its a big corner be patient.
Its a sure thing, then buy some more its at 2 cents.
Smart Guy,
The dow is above 13,000. Do you think no one has prospered from the rise of equities since 2008?
Of course if your pushing things like PTOS I can see why.
You have been their biggest supporter over the last several years luring people in to buy more when you knew it was doomed.
Your at as much fault as anyone.
Your sob story is the real joke.
Solar you really take these post personal.
Wonder why?
I have sold it.
Your arguments are silly. there are plenty of companies in the past 5 years that have made fantastic returns.
Doesn't everyone invest to make money. You act like losing money is OK and standing for thousands of dollars of losses on PTOS is not a problem and everyone should put that aside. WHY?
WOW! Solar.
If your not one of the family you are sure close to them.
The price decline sure hasn't affected his paycheck from the company selling shares to pay him.
Remember this is at .02 from .80 at one point. I'm not being negative, the return on this investment has just been a lie. If you invested $10,000 at .80 back then, today its worth 250 bucks.
I would say good luck but we both know luck is not real! and neither is the efforts of such projects.
Soon this stock will be sub .01. Just like MDXX, BRZV and the others. Its tough betting on the pennies especially when insiders are pushing people to buy on boards like this one.
You must realize many of these people are all together on these bets singing songs of how this one or that one is different than before. They all end up with people being taken advantage of by the group claiming the next big thing. PTOS has been around well over 5 years without an inch of revenue or return. It doesn't take more than 5 years to develop a single drop of revenue in any industry(even biotech).
Its a shame the game thats being played. Soon when its below a penny the game will end.
Any word on how Raj's vacation to see his family in India went?
Did he have a good time visiting grandma?
If the Bid ever reaches close to the ask I will short this bag again! Doubt that will ever happen. Amazing the bid is 50% lower than the ask.
Yes Mr.G I'm out and covered at .03. From .06 to .03 was a 50% return. i have been playing the UVXY this past week and its making a killing with all the volatility.
Muffin sorry you got caught with this PTOS game Raj has been playing. Those who pushed for the big lighting in a bottle were surely on the inside on this board keeping everyone on edge with fairytales of what could be.
Maybe someone will buy this shell and put a company into motion.
Just my opinion of course.
Still selling company shares without registering???
40K/dollars more for steve.
Stock on its way to .03 and investors like solarsun still pumping away.
If your short your in good shape! even from .05 to a penny thats 5Xs return.
A junior start up; whatever... 5 years and no sales says it all. Yes solar, it is NOT common to go 5 years and spend investors money and produce ZERO. What planet are you on where a company can't produce after 5 years and expects investors to continue to carry the load as they sell stock for salaries. Shorts the only way to go on this trap.
What do you think? Time to buy more, its 4 cents.
How's the financing coming for this power plant that actually costs money to purchase and then more to build. So cost is actually more then sales? Great concept for business! Seems like a great start up after 5 years.
The real question is why after 5 years and start up capital of selling shares of stock has the company not produced or created anything? (and) now theres a deal for a negative return just to get in the market??? Am I mis-understanding this?
Of course, I am just being negative for such a great company and losing more and more money is just part of the game. Crazy stuff.
Is my opinion on this off base? Its only been 5 YEARS.
I guess I can always invest in a company that washes cars at airports. Mark sure can pick um.
They are buying the project!!!!
What margins are left and at what price is this happening if it happens at all.
300k shares traded = 20,000 dollars.
Lets get excited. Way to go Raj. Your the best. Great score after 5 years. Shouldn't be long before were rolling in the cash. Shame on you na sayers for losing 80% of your investment.
The crying wolf game has endured to long.
Come on man! a jokes a joke.
Like I said those getting angry are either insiders or close to them. Who else would respond like that.
I see the CEO has made a nice living and the shareholders have been destroyed.
I guess the percentage of outstanding shares, in which the investors purchased(us) doesn't count for anything.
The stock holders have funded this not the mgmt ownership.
Those getting agressive are because they have ties to the mgmt or are insiders.
The mgmt has put out many release about progress to only have each one be ill. From India, Korea, Canada, Bulgaria and superior solar panels.
People are mad because we also believed in the words posted by the mgmt suggesting progress. Thats why we invested, but have only lost money. It doesn't appear that any of the works in progress they have posted are real.
"FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD"
Are you serious! Its down from .28 to .18 in six weeks.
You must be a company employee or relations guy.
Get ready insiders!
The thing is that there are SEC laws even if your a penny stock on how you can trade. Raj experienced this a while back when he was selling some shares. The manipulation of this company to entice investors based on fairy tales is not right. When you are a novice mgmt team and struggle with rules of a game sometimes you can get burned.
It's much like a chess match. You might know how to play but when you play against a high level player you get embarrassed.
Solar your comments are so simple they make little sense. Why have I been selling is strategic, you couldn't understand so don't worry about it.
My group is ready to play by the rules of course.
All of this is just an opinion. I hope the price of this stock starts to swing.
Pauly, Joe and Michael give me a call.
Thats my point!
Who is buying 100k shares back to back days? Obviously those who want to keep the price from completly collapsing so they can entice new investors. As I drop these shares they are quickly picked up so the price stays above where it was several months ago preventing collapse.
This game is really familiar, wouldn't you agree vulcan?
Who benefits if this thing goes sub .01...
I am sure some new bologna news or appointment of a director on Mars for a potential break through is just around the corner.
Someone just jumped in and bought 100K shares at .058 to prevent the price decline of less than 6 cents which is the low before the bulgaria news.
Wonder who it was? Its only $5,800 but still preventing decline. I bet if I started selling blocks they would continue to buy to prevent a penny price.
Of course selling their free awarded shares this low doesn't make them much money. Buying shares this low only dilutes their ability to make a profit as it has all of the common investors.
Maybe?
You were saying!
Price is decline mode, on its way to a nickel.
http://investing.businessweek.com/research/stocks/people/person.asp?personId=11687707&ticker=PTOS:US
I guess this link from business week about him being a former director from welwind is in-accurate. click on the Read Full Background and read the last few sentences.
"He served as a Director of Vitasti Inc. (formerly, Global Golf Holdings Inc.) since 2004. He served as Director of Welwind Energy International Corporation. Mr. Gurm attended the University of British Columbia and earned a Bachelor of Sciences Degree in Biology in 1983"
Have a great Thanksgiving!
Do you even know what due diligence is? Raj was associated with the wind company. JB WAS heavily involved. For an insider your not very informed.
All in all solar I'm done complaining. I want the success of P2 as much as the next guy and yes I am a little POed about the progress after some years of no return but hard losses.
Maybe, you do have a better inside track then most of us. All I know buying a stock on the word of a CEO and listening about such promise from IR guys repeat what their told by that CEO and seeing my investment drop by 80% doesn't leave a good feeling.
I don't know what your rebuttle has to do with the price of tea in china.
The facts are the stock price stinks, mgmt keeps promising delivered goods and fail, raj was associated with the wind company I posted earlier and is now sub penny, JB is who brought this public and has legal implications with other similar OTCs.
And you keep supporting it all. I know your connected to the whole thing but, come on solar call a spade a spade.
Sound familiar?
Welwind Energy International Corporation builds, owns, and operates wind farms in China. It has two wind projects in Guangdong Province, China. The company is headquartered in Maple Ridge, Canada
WWEI.OB
Amazing; wind company in China to Solar in India. Both from Canada. Both on penny exchange in america, Both with similar players who moved from one to the other.
On another note check out the pending legal actions being taken against some of the people who brought PTOS to the market.
Still holding long? Hope it works out for you!
Ahmed Shayan Fazlur Rahman has this company so locked up that nothing moves or shakes without his nod.
Don't know whether this is good, bad or wise.
Obviously, ADMP now belongs to him and he has deemed it necessary for him to continue as an investor. Can't say I blame him.(However, he is a major sponser for Islam in America)a little scary to be investing in a company with muslim roots.
He also is the reason for a deal with Beximco and has ties to airlines in Bangladesh.
Are you kidding me! Has anyone read the 10K?? Dr. Carlo, are you seriously telling the stock holders that the company has burned the millions of dollars from selling stock and the private investors money on salaries and research?
What reserch? WHat progress? nothing has changed in over a year other then paychecks and stock options being handed out. Now your saying dilution is iminent.
Being a holder of this stock for over 2 years and watching my initial investment be cut in half leaves me and the group I consult with extremely disappointed and feeling we have been scammed again by mis-direction of the mgmt's progressive paths.
Mark Bernhard, what say you? We know its your job to pump the company but come on, that 10K and lack of progress is dis-heartening which I'm sure will cause the stock price to now drop back sub .20.
Maybe, we should just cut our losses since the mgmt team doesn't seem to care much about the stock holders who have given them their 400k in salaries!!
You can make 4 points by buying FAZ now before the close. NO WAY this stays down 8 points till the end.
Here's some news for you!
In the last 3 years Raj has sold over $411,000 worth of stock in PTOS. While the company has had the pleasure to announce the taking of our investment the CEO or creator of PTOS has made a nice living.
Just info for the ihub board.
What else have you been told by Dr. Carlo? Since your last posting on this board the price is off by 36% and getting worse.
Stock options are being given and progress seems stiffled.
Funny how my last several post have been deleted.
I guess facts aren't aloud on this board.
Remember India?
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-08/india-says-36-solar-projects-received-solar-mission-financing.html
35 projects accepted 2 rejected.
Wasn't PTOS all over this with letters of intent?
What happened, did they just give up?
What about Korea?
I guess all the previous press releases are now void, but bulgaria is the way to go.
Give me a break.