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How would Seafarers attorneys get you a new cert. You have to do it by calling the transfer agent. Why don't you give me the name of Seafarers attorneys and I will call them for you to find out what they did or did not do. Since my cousin has just became governor I am feeling charitable.
I'm just trying to set the record straight. Without spin.
You must think people are stupid, you must not have read beyond the title. Another party did not disclose their restrictions from the SEC to Kyle and that is what caused the SEC to not allow Kyle to do business with that person. Kyle did not get any other restrictions other than to not work with that person. So here is proof again of a truth that FTC tried to spin into Kyle being a bad guy.
DEBUNKED
You were convicted of perjury that means you lied under oath to a judge. You received a year and a day for lying, lying, I have never ever seen a judge put anyone in prison for perjury. 14years is a long time but does a leopard change his spots. Your mix of truth and fabrication is a good ploy but ultimately they are as a whole a lie. I am researching the SEC thing and reading the whole case not just the decision.
Other than FTC this looks like it's going to be a great ride. I am keeping my fingers crossed.
Looks like no one wants to sell I love that.
Wow, Has anybody looked into this claim. First the Bull Run site is a huge National park second your families extensive acreage would have to be one of the families that have owned for generations.
Nice try but wrong
Boy FTC this is a change for you not out and out attacks. As Seafarer was your first job hunting treasure and you have never owned a real business I don't see how you can speak to anything they may do from an operations standpoint. Seafarer has only been around for (3) years now, so if you can't even get that right I don't think they would require your input on a business model.
Juno is not there only egg in their basket I have been told as well as a few others on this forum that they have many other project in the works. As you stated in another post "Kyle has no experience in the treasure industry", but his crew has more experience than any other in the industry.
I have been snooping around in the treasure industry and have heard some chatter. IMO it will be big but not on only one front. It may take a couple of months for the news to all come together. Look towards the end of next week.
No Basser, I hunted people that skipped out on their bail. Researched, Hunted, Arrested, and returned them to jail.
I posted a picture on my profile with treasure net. I also have started a discussion on the permitting issue that I think will be helpful.
There is a complaint against the state to renew the permit. This administrative hearing is when all of the issues are to be heard by a judge instead of just wheeler and the judge will make the determination if Seafarer should get the permit. The last conversation with the judge he said not to waste the courts time, just work it out. Now that they were unable to work it out he will make the decision. This should be great for Seafarer because they have met all of the requirements of the state. The bad part is the season is almost at the end. I hope the guys like cold water and the boats have smooth seas this winter. As for me I am trying to get a PADI certification so I can apply to hire on as a diver. I hope they will hire the handicapped and not to just use me for a buoy.
After reading the complaint listed this should clear it up. Let me say I HOPE it clears it up.
There is an administrative hearing on Dec. 20th that shows on the D.O.S. website it does say that all the issues are to be discussed and that day. We can only hope the issues are completely resolved but I am sure something will come up.
There is no impasse it is one person that is holding everything up and only because of his personal views on treasure hunting in general. I talked to another company CEO over the weekend (non-public)and he is having the same problem with the state.
Thanks BiSer. Of all the stocks I own which isn't that many, I feel the strongest about this one. I've got involved with several other treasure hunting companies, public and non but I believe in SeaFarer and the current crew. I talk to them about their future every week as do I am sure, many if us. Kyle is constantly looking for other projects to work on. So for everyone who believes FTC's BULL stick around, he will have to eat his words when SeaFarer does get other projects and or finds treasure on their site.
BiSer, I to am way upside down but hopeful. I don't have alot to do but I think I could find something other than disproving FTC's claims. I cannot let somebody attempt to hurt share value just because they were fired. I would love the company to do more about it but they don't want to dignify the ranting with a response. I hope some news comes out soon with the dive season all but over it would be a welcome change.
Salty dog it looks like he was writing about MEXP as they are in Colorado and have no crew or boats and put out false news so the CEO can sell stock.
Here is the rest of your post:
"I chose not to, because at the time, I was trying to work things out with SFRX.
This may be perhaps one reason they (B.A.R.) are not renweing the permit in haste."
There it is, how does that twist anything? I was amazed that you actually posted the email even though it does not prove your claim. I did call the company after your posting and asked them to please review those logs, much to my amazement they put me on hold and pulled copies. They came back on the phone and the secretary confirmed that your signatures match. Please try harder next time "Whistle Blower", more like something else blower.
Welcome to the spin zone hosted by FTC.
Here is your quote:
"You're forgetting that the B.A.R. in February of this year in fact found that Seafarer had forged official State documents for the month of August of 2009.
This is a fact, not some "poppycock" or opinion. Mr. Wheeler's Office at the B.A.R. sent written confirmation on Wednesday Feburary 10th, 2010, at 7:49AM (EST) of this finding through a Mr. McClarnon and urged me to seek criminal charges against Seafarer for the forgery through the F.D.L.E.. "
Your new post with this email is not what you claimed in the above quote. According to the state that letter was never sent. They had a complaint that said they falsified logs but could find no credible evidence to that claim. That was as of today. They never told you that it was a forgery that is what YOU claimed which makes it "poppycock".
More misinformation. There was no such announcement by the B.A.R., I checked. If there was an act such as that don't you think the state would let Seafarer know about it. They just let you know in written form and nobody else. Don't worry I am sure the state appreciates being lied about with such specificity. Is this like the time you told a Seafarer investor that the FBI called you and told you they were about to raid Seafarers office, then it never happened. Your yarns get bigger all the time. If you still have this imaginary letter you should paste it to this forum so all of us investors can see that I have been wrong about you this whole time and Seafarer are the bad people you claim them to be.
They still haven't officially or unofficially denied the renewal of the permit. I have done a lot of research on the chief of the bureau of archaeological research. I think it is just the lead guy Wheelers personal feelings on the subject that is causing this delay. He states in some articles he has written that all treasure in state waters belong only to the state and should stay buried. This could be why every treasure company in the state has a hard time with permitting and renewals. I am going to write a letter to the BAR letting them know that they are harming this company and as a share holder personally by not renewing this permit. According to Seafarer it has met all of the requirements to have this permit renewed and it should be done.
Still full of *#it
In this case the evidence was posted on the internet a day after it was proven false. This was the post from Oilbird where it was claimed Seafarer was in negotiations with a South American company to hunt treasure. I contacted Seafarer because I was exited, only to have my hopes dashed when they told me the claim was not true. I posted my findings only to have FTC post the claim as if it was a press release the next morning.
What about over whelming evidence?
Or when they know they can win.
Did not know that but does it really matter. Apparently you know that which is probably why you stated the caller was from that state. I like how you add things after you are challenged, it's comical. I am not following you I just happen to see you while I was going out. Were you posting to that other site from you hospital bed? Your inconsistencies are amazing. Please do post what ever you like.
Do you expect people to believe that Oilbird called you and told you that they were a paid consultant from Arkansas working on an underwater wreck. I do think there are qualified people in Florida to consult on a shipwreck. With your past posting history your credibility is not good.
I just checked, his post was not removed, as a matter of fact that post you refer to is #1362. If you look at post numbers they are sequential when a post is removed that number goes missing. That is what would indicate a removed post.
Ftc, I have read all of Oilbirds posts and have not read one that states he speaks for the company. I have copied a couple of posts here that were as close as I could find to tell me who he is or where he gets his information.
"My source of information comes from another independent source. I reiterate for my fellow posters to look to July."
"We are in fact the main buyers of the stock."
"We are a large institution based in New York. I am in Los Angeles, CA. I began posting because I was bemused by all the bad indormation and deception flowing around on this site."
"to Basserdan: By the way, you personally know me. You are the one who told me aboug SFRX. Thanks!"
Wow, if you can spin what these say into him being a direct representative of Seafarer you should work for Obama. BTW I do not remove any posts.
Since Seafarer says Oilbird does not represent them in any way where do you get off making false claims on other sites that oilbirds post was an announcement from the company. I quote "Seafarer Exploration announces agreement with South American Country". FTC you have made some very direct false claims about Seafarer now you need to back them all up. Prove your claims and I will go away.
This is in response to Oilbird and FTC. First I will address Oilbird. According to Seafarer there has been no negotiations or partnership agreement with any South American Country. So any claims by anyone to that effect are false.
Now on to FTC's comment. I quote "So, how can SFRX make this claim when the tenants a part of the UNESCO Treaties prohibit companies like SFRX from EVER exploring or salvaging shipwrecks off of South America." These comments are phrased to infer that this incorrect information came directly from Seafarer. Nothing could be further from the truth. Your comments are irresponsible and IMO designed to effect share pricing in a negative way.
If they have never heard of Sid Kay how can they report on their transaction history. Try calling some accounting firms and see if you can get them to tell you about their financial standing and maybe a transaction history.
FTC, I followed your link to sunbiz and YES Sid Kay has been around since 97, but you state "To date, it has earned no money and has only existed by "paper alone." " Annual reports do not show earnings. As this is a private company unless you have some inside information and can see their books you cannot make claims as to their finances.
Two were on that site before.
First, the only reason the permit has taken this long is our friend FTC has been making false claims to the state and it has taken this long to clear them up. Second goes out to FTC, when you worked for Seafarer you couldn't stop going on about how much treasure was down there. So were you were you lying then or are you lying now. I really need an answer on that one. Remember before you answer that you sent emails saying that there was treasure down there and that you all would be rich.
That is a fact not my opinion!
FTC, no one gave me a case number because no one is being sued so there would be no application to the sunshine law. All of these sites are public domain, yes but until it is resolved one way or another it will probably not be posted. Sorry about the disappointment. You'll just have to wait for the news like the rest of us.
P.S. You were looking on the wrong sites for that information.
The state, the judge said for the state and Seafarer should figure it out on their own. That's good because all of the required docs are reported to be in. Now it's just a matter of when. I hope it is soon because I'm tired of paddling upstream.
The judge didn't order anything he just said don't waste his time with something that should have been worked out, outside the system.