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The point to remember is some acquaintances of Sulja may still be complaining about threats and what not, which of course are simply wrong, however, none of those things would have occurred had Steve Sulja not lied in the most blatant way in pr after pr.
Steve Sulja has no integrity. And anyone getting involved with someone of such low integrity by buying shares in their enterprise should be cautious in the extreme. The management of Sulja is well known at this point. And the picture is not a pretty one.
Had Steve Sulja had the integrity many hoped he had, those pictures of the family members posted would have been held out as trophies and the name Sulja would have been cheered instead of ridiculed. Unfortunately, just the opposite occurred and the fault lies entirely on the shoulders of one man who was willing to drag his families name through the worst toilet imaginable to steal a few million dollar bills.
Steve Sulja, Peter V and whoever else is involved with this scam may be able to sleep at night peacefully after stealing the money of so many people just a couple of weeks before XMAS. I personally hope they are held accountable for fraud and tossed in jail for a long time. Only by example will these sorts of fraudsters think twice before playing the game of penny stock scam artist again.
Lastly, I have little doubt a few Sulja acquaintance are visiting this board under the express desire to re-write history. Let this be a warning to those who pretend to drink the latest cool aid of another Sulja scam. Some of us have a very long memory, and we have no intention of silencing that memory when the urge strikes.
You are correct. You're not talking about me. I placed no photo's of family members online. They were already online and posted by one of the family members themselves.
As I said, broad brush statements can be misleading.
A year ago when this companies stock was trading for over 6.00 dollars a share I predicted the stock would go subpenny.
Congratulations to shorts for taking advantage of this corporate fraud of an opportunity. I'll bet no one has still found an address of where this company is doing business.
The broad brush you paint is simply wrong, especially regarding photo's placed online. I posted those photo's online and none of them have EVER been disputed or challenged in the slightest degree by the company or anyone else.
No one, and I mean no one, has EVER contacted me regarding the photo's. And I will challenge anyone on this board or at the company to prove me wrong.
Just because certain members have stopped posting doesn't mean they left out of some kind of fear. In my case it was disgust!
Disgust for being lied to in pr after pr.
Disgust in allowing myself and people I consider online friends to become enablers of this fraud.
Disgust in believing the SEC or Canadian government would hold these charlatons accountable.
Disgust in Steve Sulja. I total and complete liar who posted pr lies after pr lies.
I could go on ad-naseum but won't bore the board....
Those who attempt to re-write history will on rare occasions feel the wrath of my typing on this board.
That's all I will now say.
Except to add, I'm sorry this company and its management team has absolutely no integrity. And I hope some were able to get out with a few dollars left.
fishman444, agree with the first part of this post, completely disagree with the second part. Under the circumstances, heck under just about any board circumstances, Divine has done an excellent and thankless job as moderator sticking with both the words and spirit of the TOU.
I will personally express my opinion to Matt regarding the matter if you insist on pursuing this further and asking for his dismissal.
Interesting post Cash, agree with some of what you said.
My impression is most people are willing to give a CEO the benefit of the doubt in regard to selling shares in order to grow a business in this area of the market. The problem people have, and rightly so, are laws and outright lies related to breaking the law. If Jim Plant has grossly exaggerated his claims of government contracts or financial numbers, that's simply against the law and anyone defending his actions based on "it's tough to start a business" has lost the big flick.
Yes, it's tough to start a business, but we as a society don't allow fraudsters carte blanche in order to do whatever it takes to make money. Laws are what holds the system together and keeps the marketplace somewhat credible. There is a level of trust in every investment whether on the pink sheets or big boards. Trust in the integrity of the system gives people confidence to invest their money.
Obviously, "level of trust" is on a long scale and many people accept exaggeration and errors along that continuum. The pink sheets is an area where trust is often abused, sometimes grossly. In those cases we should be grateful the SEC takes action against the accomplices in order to dissuade others who may be inclined to follow in their footsteps.
The recent suspension of trading in 35 companies on the pink sheets is a real eye opener and change of direction for the SEC. Perhaps they've finally heard from enough citizens to send a message that an enforcement agency is going to take action.
I sincerely hope Jim Plant has only exaggerated and not grossly lied about the government contracts and financial statements. It now appears he has lied based on the corporate silence and assumption the SEC would only take this kind of action unless warranted. Only time will tell for certain though.
In the meantime, we banter back and forth here.
At least it gives some of us an outlet.
We have pictures and video. Remember the 5 million shares Plant spent to bring us this piece? I think we were trading at 2.5 cents when shareholder equity was spent to boost the price with this video.
http://www.smallcapengine.com/company_profiles_view.aspx?id=58
The only requirement for posting on this bulletin board is to remain within the TOU of IHUB. Censorship ideas running counter to the business model of this site are just a waste of reading space.
Questions for Jim on your visit.
1. Why won't Jim Plant sign a letter allowing the T/A to release information regarding the share structure?
2. When will National Stock Transfer file the annual Form TA-2 with the Commission?
3. What specific issue caused the SEC to suspend trading, and what specific information refutes those charge by the SEC?
4. Will the audited financials be released within the next 3 weeks according to Jim Plant's shareholder video update?
5. When will a Market maker sponsor the security CKYS and submit Form 211 IAW rule 15c2-11 to trade again on the pink sheets?
Some items may be handled this way on ebay, but the vast majority are not.
Go looking for a musical instrument sometime. Check around the web and Amazon. Then check Ebay. HUGE savings can be found.
Perhaps, but have they really accomplished that? I sincerely doubt it. Halting trading for ten days without publicly stating an initial finding is a nonsensical approach to take. Any auditing agency in the world would in a matter of a couple of weeks be able to issue an initial finding. Not something set in stone, but certainly helpful to those willing to make a decision in regard to purchasing.
The process they have in place is a disgrace to sound auditing practices. It's the equivalent of locking someone in jail for ten days, letting them go with ankle cuffs and then not issuing a charge. The process allows companies to say anything to future or past shareholders they want, with very little else to go on opposing those statements.
I was thinking this evening of some of the flack I took on the board for asking interrogating questions about the company and some of the positions by posters months ago. Then I noticed this poster is long gone from the board. All I can say is, "interesting".
This stock has been a real challenge to hold of late. I'm glad I lightened my load considerably a couple of weeks before the SEC halt, but it's still difficult to hold shares while trading on the grays with silence from the company regarding the SEC accusations.
From my perspective, I don't understand what legitimate purpose the SEC addressed with this halt and subsequent silence regarding their findings. What "help" have they really given investors except to devalue the stock price and cast shadows of doubt without any real data to make a decision on? I suppose we should believe the SEC is infallible and only takes action when absolutely warranted to do so. On the other hand, we have many visitors to the company, some very credible on my integrity scale like Brent, who see the company as clearly being wrong by the SEC.
What the truth is we may not know for many months, if at all. I think that's a real shame. How tough would it be for the SEC to issue an initial finding statement regarding the government contract pr's? What a farce this auditing agency is, their incompetence and lawyer run enterprise does little or nothing to protect investors.
Of course, all imho.
First of all, typing OS was a typo in my last post and it's been corrected, but, of course you knew that.
Second of all, I never addressed what the SEC's perception of changing the OS would be. What I was speaking toward was the share price.
Thirdly, your response was an obviously awkward attempt to distance yourself from your line of questioning. That technique only works on newbies Janice, you should know by now I'm well schooled in your silly games of sophistry. LOL
This has been somewhat entertaining though, but, I've got better things to do like lift some weights and hit the eliptical.
Have fun...
Wrong as usual. What I "believe" is the perception of changing the AS would impact the share price in a positive way.
Do you disagree with that premise, or is this just some more twisted entertainment posting?
Why do you state I said I "know" that Janice? Perception impacts reality, simple as that.
The company should immediately reduce the AS back to 1 billion shares in order to reduce selling pressure.
This company is past the time of feel good interactions with the CEO. We basically know he comes across as good natured and friendly with shareholders who visit. What we don't know is whether the SEC found anything substantial in regard to their accusations.
I would rather hear a visitor say something concrete along these lines.
"We stopped in and grilled the CEO for a half an hour. We were focused and didn't get sidetracked on other issues. We asked him about the SEC investigation. He told us ------. We asked him to show us, he showed us ------------. We asked him to prove it, he did so by ----------------.
We then asked him about audited financials, same drill.
Basic auditing principles...
Tell me.
Show me.
Prove it.
Post the proof Mr. Plant. Post the contracts with a third party or the government on the website, or post an audited financial statement.
Brent, appreciate you sharing thoughts from your visit. In my mind your personal credibility adds value to your impressions.
One comment in this post I was hoping you could elaborate in more detail on.
He has addressed the SEC issue head on and has moved on. IMHO and based on what he shared the issue with the SEC was absolutely unfounded and unsubstantiated and was satisfied with facts by CKYS.
What evidence did Jim share that led you to the conclusion the SEC accusations were unfounded? Did he show you some form of government contract or with a third party vendor? Did he present invoices related to the 18 million dollars in sales already achieved? Answering that question for those of us unable to visit the company would certainly be of value.
The problem is, despite your focus toward those who cast doubts on this stock, you have provided in this post nothing substantial to alleviate that doubt.
Most of us know the company is 'real'. That's not really the issue. What we don't know is whether the SEC has found the company fraudulent in regard to press releases related to a 25 million dollar government contract. We also have serious doubts regarding the available float.
If you have evidence that suggests the SEC is wrong, then it would be wise to post that evidence. Otherwise, the claim of buying up more shares represents nothing substantial. Most people have seen people post on these boards they are buying after a significant problem with a stock, only to find out much later they were selling into those same claims. I'm not accusing you of this tactic, just stating a reality we all deal with on these boards.
If I had visited the company and found substantial positive information, the first thing I would want to do is share it publicly, especially during a time when the stock was down nearly 50% for the day. The fact that visitors have decided to remain clandestine in their coverage of the company, only adds fuel to the short fire burning our shares into worthless kindle.
Granted, it sure would have been nice for shareholders to see them include that statement as a vote of confidence though.
Pretty obvious to me there is some trepidation in regard to the language and or challenging the SEC on the reason(s) for the trading halt. Sure, you don't want to get into a no-win shooting match with the law, but on the other hand, re-stating confidently facts for shareholders to gain a foothold on would have balanced both needs, if in fact they were as confident as expressed to a few shareholders who visited recently.
That pr and replaced statement was a walk on egg shells instead of a management team confident in their position.
Would love to be a fly on the wall after hours in the offices of Cyberkey. Wonder how many late night Pizza deliveries have been made to their office?
You may be right, but I think this one is significant. Prior to the SEC halt, the last 9 pr's had the 25 million dollar government contract verbiage at the bottom, this one does not. Considering it was one of the specific issues mentioned by the SEC only further heightens the importance of its absence.
Thu, Feb 01, 2007
2:23 PM CyberKey Solutions, Inc.'s KeepSafe 2.0 to Be Featured on ABC's "Good Morning America" Next Week - Market Wire
8:31 AM CyberKey Solutions, Inc.'s KeepSafe 2.0 to Be Featured on ABC's "Good Morning America" - Market Wire
Mon, Jan 29, 2007
9:06 AM CyberKey Solutions, Inc. Reports Over $12.5 Million in Net Earnings and $33 Million in Revenues for 2006 - Market Wire
Fri, Jan 26, 2007
9:18 AM CyberKey Solutions, Inc. Products Now Featured on DOD EMALL Website - Market Wire
Thu, Jan 25, 2007
8:31 AM CyberKey Solutions, Inc. Launches New KeepSafe 2.0 Television Ad Campaign as Part of Nationwide Sales and Marketing Campaign - Market Wire
Thu, Jan 18, 2007
9:51 AM CyberKey Solutions, Inc. Awards Winner of the "Name the Mascot" Contest - Market Wire
Thu, Jan 11, 2007
8:31 AM Consumer Electronics Show Resounding Success for CyberKey(R) Solutions - Market Wire
Wed, Jan 10, 2007
11:30 AM CyberKey Solutions, Inc. Signs Joint Venture Agreement With Humware Media Corporation to Develop MyFanKey and FantasySportsKey - Market Wire
Looks like quite a bit of difference in the wording here...
Old PR statement:
About CyberKey Solutions, Inc.:
CyberKey Solutions, Inc. is currently fulfilling a $25 Million purchase order to various segments of the U.S. Government. CyberKey Solutions, Inc., based in St. George, Utah, partners with industry leading manufacturers and distributors to deliver secure USB drive-based solutions to vertical markets and content owners, service providers and resellers. CyberKey's solutions solve real world issues in the entertainment, education, government, military, automotive, financial services and medical industries. CyberKey Solutions' technologies allow users to securely transfer large amounts of data, files and applications software from one electronic device to another while employing a patent-pending USB-based Digital Rights Management process. CyberKey's solutions create new opportunities for existing industries and applications. For more information, please visit their website at www.cyberkeysolutions.com.
New PR statement:
About CyberKey Solutions, Inc.:
CyberKey Solutions, Inc., based in St. George, Utah, partners with industry leading manufacturers and distributors to deliver secure USB drive-based solutions to vertical markets and content owners, service providers and resellers. CyberKey's solutions solve real world issues in the entertainment, education, government, military, automotive, financial services and medical industries. CyberKey Solutions' technologies allow users to securely transfer large amounts of data, files and applications software from one electronic device to another while employing a patent pending USB-based Digital Rights Management process. CyberKey's solutions create new opportunities for existing industries and applications. For more information, please visit their website at www.cyberkeysolutions.com.
Are you ready to now publicly apologize for this outrageous lie of a post?
http://www.alphadata.com/TechSales.aspx
I don't lie on these message board. People that know me can attest to that. I've also been posting on SI since 1996 under my real name. Many people know me.
You don't believe me, that's your issue not mine. And I doubt whatever proof you think you need would ever satisfy your suspicous concerns.
It was just a quickly tossed together message, so quibbling about the words is not worth it. The spirit and theme is what I was getting at more than the precise wording.
There is almost nothing more important to a public company than responding to the SEC when they have concerns or questions. To not do so in a timely manner, demonstrated total failure on the part of the CKYS management team to meet the needs of one of their most important customers, that being; each and every shareholder of the stock.
Now, after having been suspended for a week and hearing nothing concrete from the company explaining the situation, demonstrates more failure on their part.
The experience of this management team appears to be woefully lacking in some very basic skills a public company needs to be successful long term. You don't build investor loyalty with these kind of screw-ups. The cost is simply too high.
jabber, what concrete proof can you offer that Jim Plant owns 450 million shares? I would say the share structure and insider ownership is another very important item the companies needs to address before the 20th.
It puzzles me to read the past few days so many willing to write posts extolling certainty in a time like this. There is no certainty regarding this stock. And anyone professing those ideals is only kidding themselves. What are the probabilities?
It seems to me probable we will see a pr statement describing what actions the company has taken to fulfill the needs of the SEC prior to the 20th. That pr will probably be the most important pr from the company in their public history. Either the items outlined by the SEC will be addressed directly and in a concrete manner, or they will be addressed in a manner causing concern and anxiety among current and potential shareholders. My suggestion is they scan whatever contract they have with the government or third party and post it on their website for all to view. That would certainly help shareholders regain some confidence.
The other probability is the stock will suffer immediate depreciation in the opening moments of trading, since so many people were completely caught off guard by the SEC suspension.
I think it's a shame the company has not responded to shareholder concerns with a public pr respectfully denouncing the charges by the SEC by now. When the suspension hit, many thought we might resume trading prior to the 20th, or even after the first two or three days, the fact that nothing concrete has happened by now is disturbing.
res- Most companies could build a world class web site for less than $10,000 what's up with that?
Totally untrue. A world class website can cost upward of hundreds of thousands of dollars to create and take over a year to develop. Some website costs have run in the millions. I've seen corporate intranet developments run in the hundreds of thousand of dollars.
It was on the site. I can verify the information too. As a former web developer it's laughable someone thinks they cut and pasted an object into their corporate website.
And it wasn't duplicated and then altered. I entered the website from multiple angles yesterday precluding any possibilities of web site address manipulation or duplication.
They simply removed the logo.
Thanks for the rude sarcasm. What I *believe* is not the issue.
The fact is members of IHUB have reported that many shares and if you're so completely and utterly convinced to dismiss the information outright as a complete fabrication, representing a total farce, why don't you challenge some members on the list to prove their share count and see where it leads you?
I you like, I can be the first test case. I own 890K shares and reported as much to the total. Care to challenge me on the accuracy of that information? I doubt you have to courage of your sarcasm to place a wager with me on the data.
Check out one of their job openings
http://www.careerbuilder.com/JobSeeker/Jobs/JobDetails.aspx?CiBookMark=1&dv=dv&sfascc=&I...
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Alpha Data Corporation is currently seeking an Air Force E - Recruiter / Online Advisor for their office in Randolph, Texas. 1. On-Line Recruiting Interaction
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Generate and encourage ongoing conversations among message board users and online chatters
Utilize E-mail to provide enough information and answers to prospects to induce them to seek out a recruiter for an appointment to process for enlistment/commission
Welcome new users to the boards
Identify applicants off the chat line and e-mails received that meet or exceed requirements for critical (i.e. Pararescue, Combat Control, Linguist) or special programs (ROTC, AFA)
Reinforce commitment of Delayed Entry Program (DEP) members, and encourage potential DEP losses to work problems out with their recruiter.
Direct potential applicants' resumes and information to appropriate AF recruiter/programs coordinator.
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Maintain current database of Recruiter Information and contact information. Able to provide information to potential recruits quickly
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Exactly, even if everything pr'd from the company were a blatant lie, look around the pink sheets, you'll find dozens of other companies doing the same dang thing and many far worse. Heck, some pink companies don't even have addresses or phone numbers.
Ever taken a look at GHLT? Now still trading over a dollar a share, they supposedly exist a few miles from my house, yet they closed up shop and left over 6 months ago and no one but a pr rep named Jesus from Florida knows where they do business. LOL
I could give literally a half dozen examples, everyone has obviously mentioned SLJB. Well, they're still trading on the pinks.
There is something really strange going on here. Either the charges are much worse than publicized, or the SEC was motivate to shut down trading for other more nefarious reasons.
Here is the question I would like to see answered by the SEC.
Given all the strange prs and obvious lies by other companies in the pinks and in much higher market venues with far more money at stake, why would the SEC waste their resources going after such a relatively small company from Utah?
Right here. http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=8285
That puts this one board well over the publicized float.
Obviously, hence the comment in my post.
Strongly recommend those who haven't posted their share count do so now. According to the total so far, we at IHUB basically own the float!
There is some *major* shananigans going on with the shares available for trading. Either the company has been lying via its T/A or a *major* naked short position exists.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=8285
Something that doesn't make sense is it was only a few days before the suspension that JP produced the new investor video update. I would assume the SEC had already contacted him by that point asking for information.
Question: Why produce and make public an updated video clearly announcing for the first time precise numbers related to filling government contracts, if he knew the SEC was looking into the issue?
Seems rather peculiar behavior to further paint yourself into a corner like that.
Edit: Not sure why the post I referenced here was deleted.
This is just an incredible record of share count from IHUB members! I ask everyone to put aside their ego's and be as accurate as possible when providing their share count.
If the data we've collected is true, there is either major fraud going on in regard to the reported float, or a major naked short position in this stock.
Well done moderators! Thanks for putting this board together.
BS, you filled the board with inane chit-chat just as you're doing here endlessly. And rarely engaged in a dialogue with the intent to have a conversation. Petulance and disingenuous nonsense are the hallmarks of your posting style.
Fool others if you choose Janice. The entertainment game won't fly with me.