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"So much is at stake here and like Chris Christie's waistband after a dinner at PF Chang's the tension is almost unbearable."
That's a sample. I pasted the video with the cc on, if it's not click it on
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Crashes the Trump Trial Circus
POOPED
The iconic dog puppet confronted the “who’s who of who’s off their meds” outside the Manhattan courthouse on the first day of Trump’s criminal trial.
Matt Wilstein Senior Editor
Published Apr. 18, 2024 5:04PM EDT
Hot on the heels of his latest “Let’s Make a Poop” game show special featuring Rob Schneider, “Weird” Al Yankovic, and more, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was spotted engaging with the MAGA faithful outside of Donald Trump’s criminal trial in Downtown Manhattan this week.
Now, the fruits of his comedic labors have arrived on YouTube for us all to enjoy.
“Triumph doesn’t have a formal gig right now, but I’ve been wanting to cover the election,” Robert Smigel, the former Saturday Night Live and Late Night with Conan O’Brien writer who created the iconic puppet, wrote in a message to The Daily Beast on Thursday.
“Since this trial was right here in New York some writers and I just went for it, shooting with iPhones. We were low on cigars, but hopefully people support Triumph’s special and YouTube channel and he’ll buy some new ones.”
In front of the courthouse on the first day of the trial, Triumph begins by remarking, “While many legal experts say this case is weaker than Michael Cohen’s chin, Trump is said to be very nervous about it—terrified that the courtroom sketch artist won’t give him abs.”
Before long, Triumph starts trying to engaging with “diverse” Trump fans, “a virtual rainbow, representing every kind of mental disorder”—or, “a real who’s who of who’s off their meds”—but can barely get his jokes in over all of the unhinged screaming.
“But seriously, of all these crimes that Trump is accused of, which one are you going to ignore the most when you go to the polls?” Triumph asks one supporter, who replies, “The one where he was the grandfather of the vaccine.”
Speaking to another spectator on the street, Triumph jokes that a gag order isn’t going to silence Trump, but if you really want to keep him quiet, “Ask him to clarify his position on abortion.”
And finally, he makes the case that Trump is the “most obviously innocent man in the whole world—now that O.J. is dead.” The former president’s biggest fans can’t help but agree.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-crashes-the-trump-trial-circus?utm_source=web_push
"So much is at stake here and like Chris Christie's waistband after a dinner at PF Chang's the tension is almost unbearable."
That's a sample. I pasted the video with the cc on, if it's not click it on
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Crashes the Trump Trial Circus
POOPED
The iconic dog puppet confronted the “who’s who of who’s off their meds” outside the Manhattan courthouse on the first day of Trump’s criminal trial.
Matt Wilstein Senior Editor
Published Apr. 18, 2024 5:04PM EDT
Hot on the heels of his latest “Let’s Make a Poop” game show special featuring Rob Schneider, “Weird” Al Yankovic, and more, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was spotted engaging with the MAGA faithful outside of Donald Trump’s criminal trial in Downtown Manhattan this week.
Now, the fruits of his comedic labors have arrived on YouTube for us all to enjoy.
“Triumph doesn’t have a formal gig right now, but I’ve been wanting to cover the election,” Robert Smigel, the former Saturday Night Live and Late Night with Conan O’Brien writer who created the iconic puppet, wrote in a message to The Daily Beast on Thursday.
“Since this trial was right here in New York some writers and I just went for it, shooting with iPhones. We were low on cigars, but hopefully people support Triumph’s special and YouTube channel and he’ll buy some new ones.”
In front of the courthouse on the first day of the trial, Triumph begins by remarking, “While many legal experts say this case is weaker than Michael Cohen’s chin, Trump is said to be very nervous about it—terrified that the courtroom sketch artist won’t give him abs.”
Before long, Triumph starts trying to engaging with “diverse” Trump fans, “a virtual rainbow, representing every kind of mental disorder”—or, “a real who’s who of who’s off their meds”—but can barely get his jokes in over all of the unhinged screaming.
“But seriously, of all these crimes that Trump is accused of, which one are you going to ignore the most when you go to the polls?” Triumph asks one supporter, who replies, “The one where he was the grandfather of the vaccine.”
Speaking to another spectator on the street, Triumph jokes that a gag order isn’t going to silence Trump, but if you really want to keep him quiet, “Ask him to clarify his position on abortion.”
And finally, he makes the case that Trump is the “most obviously innocent man in the whole world—now that O.J. is dead.” The former president’s biggest fans can’t help but agree.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-crashes-the-trump-trial-circus?utm_source=web_push
"So much is at stake here and like Chris Christie's waistband after a dinner at PF Chang's the tension is almost unbearable."
That's a sample. I pasted the video with the cc on, if it's not click it on
Triumph the Insult Comic Dog Crashes the Trump Trial Circus
POOPED
The iconic dog puppet confronted the “who’s who of who’s off their meds” outside the Manhattan courthouse on the first day of Trump’s criminal trial.
Matt Wilstein Senior Editor
Published Apr. 18, 2024 5:04PM EDT
Hot on the heels of his latest “Let’s Make a Poop” game show special featuring Rob Schneider, “Weird” Al Yankovic, and more, Triumph the Insult Comic Dog was spotted engaging with the MAGA faithful outside of Donald Trump’s criminal trial in Downtown Manhattan this week.
Now, the fruits of his comedic labors have arrived on YouTube for us all to enjoy.
“Triumph doesn’t have a formal gig right now, but I’ve been wanting to cover the election,” Robert Smigel, the former Saturday Night Live and Late Night with Conan O’Brien writer who created the iconic puppet, wrote in a message to The Daily Beast on Thursday.
“Since this trial was right here in New York some writers and I just went for it, shooting with iPhones. We were low on cigars, but hopefully people support Triumph’s special and YouTube channel and he’ll buy some new ones.”
In front of the courthouse on the first day of the trial, Triumph begins by remarking, “While many legal experts say this case is weaker than Michael Cohen’s chin, Trump is said to be very nervous about it—terrified that the courtroom sketch artist won’t give him abs.”
Before long, Triumph starts trying to engaging with “diverse” Trump fans, “a virtual rainbow, representing every kind of mental disorder”—or, “a real who’s who of who’s off their meds”—but can barely get his jokes in over all of the unhinged screaming.
“But seriously, of all these crimes that Trump is accused of, which one are you going to ignore the most when you go to the polls?” Triumph asks one supporter, who replies, “The one where he was the grandfather of the vaccine.”
Speaking to another spectator on the street, Triumph jokes that a gag order isn’t going to silence Trump, but if you really want to keep him quiet, “Ask him to clarify his position on abortion.”
And finally, he makes the case that Trump is the “most obviously innocent man in the whole world—now that O.J. is dead.” The former president’s biggest fans can’t help but agree.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/triumph-the-insult-comic-dog-crashes-the-trump-trial-circus?utm_source=web_push
Dove deep down into the rabbit hole for that 💩, huh?
I want to see a Chicago 7 style bound and gagged Trump.
[Bobby Seale attempting to write notes on a legal pad while bound and gagged in the courtroom during the Chicago Eight conspiracy trial in Chicago, Illinois], between October 29 and November 5, 1969.
Bobby Seale, Bound and Gagged
Bobby Seale had not participated in the advance planning for the demonstration, but was arrested and tried with the MOBE members. A co-founder of the Black Panthers, Seale had gone to Chicago as a last-minute replacement for Eldridge Cleaver. Seale, whose lawyer was unavailable due to hospitalization, was denied both a continuance and self-representation. Seale verbally lashed out, interrupting the proceedings.
On October 29, 1969, in an extraordinary move, Judge Julius Hoffman ordered Bobby Seale bound and gagged. His trial was severed from the Chicago Eight on November 5, 1969. Finding him in contempt, Hoffman sentenced Seale to four years in prison, appealed at, U.S. v. Seale, 461 F.2d 345 (1972). As he was led from the courtroom, spectators shouted "Free Bobby!"
https://www.loc.gov/exhibitions/drawing-justice-courtroom-illustrations/about-this-exhibition/political-activists-on-trial/bobby-seale-bound-and-gagged/
THIS would have worked, but a feckless GOP House Speaker torpedoed it just like Mikey Moses did the most recent bill.
The best chance to enact comprehensive reform came in 2013 during President Barack Obama’s second term, when a bipartisan group of senators dubbed the “Gang of Eight” agreed on a bill that would toughen security at the southern border and make it harder for employers to hire migrants who had entered the U.S. illegally while providing legal status and a path to citizenship for millions of such migrants who had resided in the U.S. for many years.
The proposal passed the Senate 68 to 32 with strong bipartisan support. But because it did not enjoy the support of a majority of House Republicans, then-Speaker John Boehner refused to bring it to floor for a vote, and the measure died.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-collapse-of-bipartisan-immigration-reform-a-guide-for-the-perplexed/
You have to consider that my description of the Bill and the GOP are accurate. Yeah, it'll change in Nov. as Trump and the GOP go down in flames together.
He'll be a private citizen and in court for the 1/6 case, the GA case and the docs case.
None of that overshadows what I listed. If it did Trump would be pulling away in the polls; he isn't.
Joe's reaction should be to send SEAL Team Six after Trump and the members of the GOP House. Why not? No consequences if P.I is a 'thing'.
That's why SCOTUS won't vote in favor of P.I.
Idiot, inflation was/IS worldwide. And you conveniently overlook the pandemic that Trump decided to downplay.
The stock market and the job market tanked 4 years ago. Trump held super spreader rallies and claimed if he lost the election it would be due to voter fraud. He did lose and it wasn't due to voter fraud.
He finished with the worst job creation of any president and he was laying the groundwork for the criminal behavior that now has him in court more than on the campaign trail.
What the Dems ARE doing is infrastructure, chips and science, 15M new jobs, unemployment below 4% and freedom of choice. Tell me what RFK Jr's platform is; he a conspiracy theory spinning anti-vaxxer junk scientist.
60% of the country didn't care about Clinton lying about a BJ. He was impeached and lost his law license. But he is still cut some slack because he was a far better president than Trump.
As for Mara Largo?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-mar-a-lago-1-8-billion-own-company-said-it-was-too-high/
That's because local property taxes are higher for properties that are worth more. Mar-a-Lago's valuation is reflective of a property that is not a residence (even though Trump uses it as one).
"Mar-a-Lago is deed restricted as a private club. The deed itself is restricted, it can't be used for any other purpose, as such our office values it as we value the other private clubs in Palm Beach County," Haltermon Robinson said.
Deed restrictions can hurt a property's value, said Eli Beracha, the director of Florida International University's Hollo School of Real Estate.
"Clearly, when you have restrictions on a property, it'll only decrease, not increase the value of the property," Beracha said. "Every time you limit basically what the property can be, the chances are that it decreases the value."
Point out the inaccuracy. One other point, IF the GOP House had taken up the Seante Bill that included immigration reform there would be money for more border agents and more technology and more judges to shorten turnaround time for legitimate asylum applications.
So spare me the faux outrage about the border that the GOP refuses to help fix. Another perfect example of the GOP allowing the perfect to be the enemy of the good, which is just the way the authoritarian my way or the highway GOP assholes roll.
You assume none are turned away, none are returned. Economics? Agriculture and the hospitality industry?
And anyone who draws a paycheck has SS and Medicare deducted from the check, benefits they will never see unless they gain citizenship.
Your insistence on oversimplifying matters, ignoring facts, makes your posts easy to rebut.
The Rules Committee Has So Much Important Stuff to Do, Will Be Doing This Instead
Come for the Refrigerator Freedom Act, stay for the Liberty in Laundry Act.
By Charles P. Pierce PUBLISHED: APR 15, 2024 9:01 AM EST
rep andy ogles
Bill Clark//Getty Images
I know. I know. We’re all concentrating most of the day on a courtroom in New York City. However, that’s probably going to wrap up before 4:00 p.m., at which time the blogging gods have bestowed upon us a further gift. Allow me to present Monday’s agenda for the meeting of the Rules Committee of the United States House of Representatives. To be discussed and voted to the floor are the following:
H.R. 7637: The Refrigerator Freedom Act.
H.R. 7645: The Clothes Dryers Reliability Act.
H.R. 7673: The Liberty in Laundry Act.
H.R. 6192: The Hands Off Our Home Appliances Act.
This reads less like a legislative calendar and more like a prize package on The Price Is Right.
As you may have guessed, all of these monumental pieces of legislation are aimed at defeating the federal government’s attempts to convince us not to be such massive energy hogs in our daily lives. Take, for example, the Liberty in Laundry Act, if only because I giggle uncontrollably every time I type its name.
The brainchild of Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tennessee), one of the House’s true omadhauns, this bill’s purpose is, and I quote from the bill itself.
To prohibit the Secretary of Energy from prescribing or enforcing energy conservation standards for clothes washers that are not cost-effective or technologically feasible, and for other purposes.
All of them are pretty much the same. These are going to pass the Rules Committee and be debated on the floor of the House while the seas are rising, the Middle East is on a knife’s edge, and Ukraine is begging for help. Of course, the Rules Committee will be dealing with these issues as well, in its usual calm and bipartisan manner.
H. Res. 1117: Opposing efforts to place one-sided pressure on Israel with respect to Gaza.
H. Res. 1112: Denouncing the Biden administration’s immigration policies.
These last two items, of course, are not bills aimed at becoming laws. They are merely tantrums under Robert’s Rules, by which the Republicans get to excoriate the administration for the benefit of the Defendant in New York City, and to try to distract everyone from the fact that they haven’t done practically anything else for two years. But they will set the refrigerators free. By God, they will do that.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a60498401/house-rules-committee-laundry-bill/
ant4385
14 hours ago
That's right.. Way to stick it to woke electricity.
jbh9431
2 days ago
I haven’t had enough national holidays this year. Given these new objects of GOP affection I propose that we set aside a day to honor the Brave Little Toaster. Bonus: it could anchor another 3-day Black Monday Sale.
thomaugust
2 days ago
All because Trump can't wash the feces off his drawers
m661181
2 days ago
There’s also H.R. 7626 – Affordable Air Conditioning Act
Seriously? The cost of most household appliances has declined while quality and reliability has improved. Example: You can find a good basic efficient window air conditioner starting at $99. Which is attainable for most people regardless of in...
ron7907
2 days ago
So is there gonna be a Refrigerator Emancipation Proclamation on Trump's Day 1? And does this mean I can't touch my stove? The grates are kinda crusty, could use a scrubbing, but I'm a law-abiding patriot.
The Rules Committee Has So Much Important Stuff to Do, Will Be Doing This Instead
Come for the Refrigerator Freedom Act, stay for the Liberty in Laundry Act.
By Charles P. Pierce PUBLISHED: APR 15, 2024 9:01 AM EST
rep andy ogles
Bill Clark//Getty Images
I know. I know. We’re all concentrating most of the day on a courtroom in New York City. However, that’s probably going to wrap up before 4:00 p.m., at which time the blogging gods have bestowed upon us a further gift. Allow me to present Monday’s agenda for the meeting of the Rules Committee of the United States House of Representatives. To be discussed and voted to the floor are the following:
H.R. 7637: The Refrigerator Freedom Act.
H.R. 7645: The Clothes Dryers Reliability Act.
H.R. 7673: The Liberty in Laundry Act.
H.R. 6192: The Hands Off Our Home Appliances Act.
This reads less like a legislative calendar and more like a prize package on The Price Is Right.
As you may have guessed, all of these monumental pieces of legislation are aimed at defeating the federal government’s attempts to convince us not to be such massive energy hogs in our daily lives. Take, for example, the Liberty in Laundry Act, if only because I giggle uncontrollably every time I type its name.
The brainchild of Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tennessee), one of the House’s true omadhauns, this bill’s purpose is, and I quote from the bill itself.
To prohibit the Secretary of Energy from prescribing or enforcing energy conservation standards for clothes washers that are not cost-effective or technologically feasible, and for other purposes.
All of them are pretty much the same. These are going to pass the Rules Committee and be debated on the floor of the House while the seas are rising, the Middle East is on a knife’s edge, and Ukraine is begging for help. Of course, the Rules Committee will be dealing with these issues as well, in its usual calm and bipartisan manner.
H. Res. 1117: Opposing efforts to place one-sided pressure on Israel with respect to Gaza.
H. Res. 1112: Denouncing the Biden administration’s immigration policies.
These last two items, of course, are not bills aimed at becoming laws. They are merely tantrums under Robert’s Rules, by which the Republicans get to excoriate the administration for the benefit of the Defendant in New York City, and to try to distract everyone from the fact that they haven’t done practically anything else for two years. But they will set the refrigerators free. By God, they will do that.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a60498401/house-rules-committee-laundry-bill/
ant4385
14 hours ago
That's right.. Way to stick it to woke electricity.
jbh9431
2 days ago
I haven’t had enough national holidays this year. Given these new objects of GOP affection I propose that we set aside a day to honor the Brave Little Toaster. Bonus: it could anchor another 3-day Black Monday Sale.
thomaugust
2 days ago
All because Trump can't wash the feces off his drawers
m661181
2 days ago
There’s also H.R. 7626 – Affordable Air Conditioning Act
Seriously? The cost of most household appliances has declined while quality and reliability has improved. Example: You can find a good basic efficient window air conditioner starting at $99. Which is attainable for most people regardless of in...
ron7907
2 days ago
So is there gonna be a Refrigerator Emancipation Proclamation on Trump's Day 1? And does this mean I can't touch my stove? The grates are kinda crusty, could use a scrubbing, but I'm a law-abiding patriot.
The Rules Committee Has So Much Important Stuff to Do, Will Be Doing This Instead
Come for the Refrigerator Freedom Act, stay for the Liberty in Laundry Act.
By Charles P. Pierce PUBLISHED: APR 15, 2024 9:01 AM EST
rep andy ogles
Bill Clark//Getty Images
I know. I know. We’re all concentrating most of the day on a courtroom in New York City. However, that’s probably going to wrap up before 4:00 p.m., at which time the blogging gods have bestowed upon us a further gift. Allow me to present Monday’s agenda for the meeting of the Rules Committee of the United States House of Representatives. To be discussed and voted to the floor are the following:
H.R. 7637: The Refrigerator Freedom Act.
H.R. 7645: The Clothes Dryers Reliability Act.
H.R. 7673: The Liberty in Laundry Act.
H.R. 6192: The Hands Off Our Home Appliances Act.
This reads less like a legislative calendar and more like a prize package on The Price Is Right.
As you may have guessed, all of these monumental pieces of legislation are aimed at defeating the federal government’s attempts to convince us not to be such massive energy hogs in our daily lives. Take, for example, the Liberty in Laundry Act, if only because I giggle uncontrollably every time I type its name.
The brainchild of Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tennessee), one of the House’s true omadhauns, this bill’s purpose is, and I quote from the bill itself.
To prohibit the Secretary of Energy from prescribing or enforcing energy conservation standards for clothes washers that are not cost-effective or technologically feasible, and for other purposes.
All of them are pretty much the same. These are going to pass the Rules Committee and be debated on the floor of the House while the seas are rising, the Middle East is on a knife’s edge, and Ukraine is begging for help. Of course, the Rules Committee will be dealing with these issues as well, in its usual calm and bipartisan manner.
H. Res. 1117: Opposing efforts to place one-sided pressure on Israel with respect to Gaza.
H. Res. 1112: Denouncing the Biden administration’s immigration policies.
These last two items, of course, are not bills aimed at becoming laws. They are merely tantrums under Robert’s Rules, by which the Republicans get to excoriate the administration for the benefit of the Defendant in New York City, and to try to distract everyone from the fact that they haven’t done practically anything else for two years. But they will set the refrigerators free. By God, they will do that.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a60498401/house-rules-committee-laundry-bill/
ant4385
14 hours ago
That's right.. Way to stick it to woke electricity.
jbh9431
2 days ago
I haven’t had enough national holidays this year. Given these new objects of GOP affection I propose that we set aside a day to honor the Brave Little Toaster. Bonus: it could anchor another 3-day Black Monday Sale.
thomaugust
2 days ago
All because Trump can't wash the feces off his drawers
m661181
2 days ago
There’s also H.R. 7626 – Affordable Air Conditioning Act
Seriously? The cost of most household appliances has declined while quality and reliability has improved. Example: You can find a good basic efficient window air conditioner starting at $99. Which is attainable for most people regardless of in...
ron7907
2 days ago
So is there gonna be a Refrigerator Emancipation Proclamation on Trump's Day 1? And does this mean I can't touch my stove? The grates are kinda crusty, could use a scrubbing, but I'm a law-abiding patriot.
The Rules Committee Has So Much Important Stuff to Do, Will Be Doing This Instead
Come for the Refrigerator Freedom Act, stay for the Liberty in Laundry Act.
By Charles P. Pierce PUBLISHED: APR 15, 2024 9:01 AM EST
rep andy ogles
Bill Clark//Getty Images
I know. I know. We’re all concentrating most of the day on a courtroom in New York City. However, that’s probably going to wrap up before 4:00 p.m., at which time the blogging gods have bestowed upon us a further gift. Allow me to present Monday’s agenda for the meeting of the Rules Committee of the United States House of Representatives. To be discussed and voted to the floor are the following:
H.R. 7637: The Refrigerator Freedom Act.
H.R. 7645: The Clothes Dryers Reliability Act.
H.R. 7673: The Liberty in Laundry Act.
H.R. 6192: The Hands Off Our Home Appliances Act.
This reads less like a legislative calendar and more like a prize package on The Price Is Right.
As you may have guessed, all of these monumental pieces of legislation are aimed at defeating the federal government’s attempts to convince us not to be such massive energy hogs in our daily lives. Take, for example, the Liberty in Laundry Act, if only because I giggle uncontrollably every time I type its name.
The brainchild of Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tennessee), one of the House’s true omadhauns, this bill’s purpose is, and I quote from the bill itself.
To prohibit the Secretary of Energy from prescribing or enforcing energy conservation standards for clothes washers that are not cost-effective or technologically feasible, and for other purposes.
All of them are pretty much the same. These are going to pass the Rules Committee and be debated on the floor of the House while the seas are rising, the Middle East is on a knife’s edge, and Ukraine is begging for help. Of course, the Rules Committee will be dealing with these issues as well, in its usual calm and bipartisan manner.
H. Res. 1117: Opposing efforts to place one-sided pressure on Israel with respect to Gaza.
H. Res. 1112: Denouncing the Biden administration’s immigration policies.
These last two items, of course, are not bills aimed at becoming laws. They are merely tantrums under Robert’s Rules, by which the Republicans get to excoriate the administration for the benefit of the Defendant in New York City, and to try to distract everyone from the fact that they haven’t done practically anything else for two years. But they will set the refrigerators free. By God, they will do that.
https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a60498401/house-rules-committee-laundry-bill/
ant4385
14 hours ago
That's right.. Way to stick it to woke electricity.
jbh9431
2 days ago
I haven’t had enough national holidays this year. Given these new objects of GOP affection I propose that we set aside a day to honor the Brave Little Toaster. Bonus: it could anchor another 3-day Black Monday Sale.
thomaugust
2 days ago
All because Trump can't wash the feces off his drawers
m661181
2 days ago
There’s also H.R. 7626 – Affordable Air Conditioning Act
Seriously? The cost of most household appliances has declined while quality and reliability has improved. Example: You can find a good basic efficient window air conditioner starting at $99. Which is attainable for most people regardless of in...
ron7907
2 days ago
So is there gonna be a Refrigerator Emancipation Proclamation on Trump's Day 1? And does this mean I can't touch my stove? The grates are kinda crusty, could use a scrubbing, but I'm a law-abiding patriot.
While talking to a local farmer today who had just plowed under his crop, he said, "Well, the way I see it, Donald Trump is like a post tortoise." Not being familiar with the term, I asked, what's a post tortoise?
He replied, "When you're driving down a country road and come across a tortoise balanced on top of a fence post, that's a post tortoise."
Looking at the puzzled look on my face, he said "You know the turtle didn't get there by himself, he doesn't belong up there, he doesn't know what to do while he is up there, he's elevated way above his ability to function and you just can't stop wondering what kind of dumb a-holes would put him up there."
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100218872844
3. The tortoise did claim that he could shoot someone of 5th avenue and get away with it.
Imagine a country that lets treasonous Trumpanzees gather and scream 'hang Mike Pence', after first being lied to for 60 f'ing days....'stop the steal' my ass..... by a treasonous piece of 💩, and then being incited by him to break the laws as we all saw. Add the dereliction of duty described below, you Putin loving hypocritical asshole.
Trump could have helped response to Jan. 6 riot -- but didn't -- per new testimony
Source: Politico
Donald Trump could have cleared up confusion and hastened the arrival of National Guard troops to quell the Capitol riot if he’d called Pentagon leaders on Jan. 6, 2021, according to recent closed-door congressional testimony by two former leaders of the D.C. guard.
Michael Brooks, the senior enlisted leader of the D.C. guard at the time of the riot, and Brigadier Gen. Aaron Dean, the adjutant general of the D.C. guard at the time, told House Administration Committee staffers that if Trump had reached out that day — which, by all accounts, he did not — he might have helped cut through the chaos amid a tangle of conflicting advice and miscommunication.
“Could the president have picked up the phone, called the secretary of defense, and said, you know, ‘What’s going on here?’ Our law enforcement is getting overrun, make this happen!’” a committee staffer asked Brooks, according to the transcript of a previously unreported March 14 interview reviewed by POLITICO.
“I assume he could expedite an approval through the Secretary of Defense, through the Secretary of the Army,” Brooks replied.
Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/04/17/trump-jan-6-capitol-riot-national-guard-00152757
Envious of that fat, orange, moronic, treasonous piece of 💩 or supporters of him such as brain dead, moral imbeciles, like you? I don't f'ing think so
Are you f'ing kidding?
Six Billion to Samsung, and Samsung puts up the other 45-50 billion,
$45 billion is a 750% ROI on $6B.
What was the return on Trump's $2T tax cut?
The GOP simply no longer understands the meaning of government investment in private enterprise.
The did when approving NASA budgets; the commercial spinoffs are manifest. Ditto for R&D INVESTMENTS.
The Trump Trial Just Started and MAGA’s Mind Is Already Melting
NORMAL STUFF
Right-wing pundits are calling for jury nullification and accusing the judge of “election interference” and jury selection bias.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-day-1-of-the-trump-trial-and-maga-is-already-losing-its-mind
Matt Lewis Senior Columnist
Updated Apr. 16, 2024 8:28AM EDT Published Apr. 15, 2024 9:59PM EDT
Donald Trump’s New York hush-money-to-a-porn-star trial has barely begun and, already, his MAGA backers are trying to rig the outcome.
On Monday, conservative media personality Clay Travis sent the following tweet to his one million-plus Twitter (X) followers: “If you’re a Trump supporter in New York City who is a part of the jury pool, do everything you can to get seated on the jury and then refuse to convict as a matter of principle, dooming the case via hung jury. It’s the most patriotic thing you could possibly do.”
Make no mistake, this is a very dangerous and irresponsible message to send. It seeks to pervert the American legal system, a system where no man is above the law and the goal is to deliver blind justice.
For this trial’s jury selection, potential jurors are required to answer 42 questions to suss out whether they can be fair and impartial. So how would a hardcore Trump backer (or opponent, for that matter) make it on this jury? Travis is clearly encouraging Trump supporters to lie to get chosen for the jury, and then, irrespective of the evidence, to “refuse to convict.”
But Travis isn’t the only right-winger making mischief. Also on Monday, right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer (who was outside the courtroom, leading a group of Trump supporters) accused Judge Juan Merchan of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” for having the audacity to insist that Trump physically attend every day of the trial.
Meanwhile, Trump attorney Alina Habba (who is not representing him during this trial) is simultaneously accusing Judge Merchan of being unfair regarding jury selection rules. As always, Trumpworld is great at projection. As they attempt to unfairly influence jury selection, they accuse others of doing the same.
Based on day one, there is little doubt that this trial is about to become a circus (or worse). And what happens if things start to visibly go south during the trial for Trump? What happens if the jury finds him guilty? What will Steve Bannon say or do? Or Marjorie Taylor Greene? Or Charlie Kirk?
Just like the Big Lie, the effort to discredit and delegitimize this trial will not be limited to fringe actors. It’s incredible and horrible to think about it, but MAGA ideas have metastasized to the GOP mainstream. Case in point, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgam is calling this a “sham trial” and “an unprecedented attack” during “an election year.” This is straight out of the MAGA playbook.
To the degree he can get away with it, Trump is turning this trial into one big campaign. This is true in more ways than one.
Undermining America’s institutions (such as jury trials) fits into Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign narrative about Biden using “lawfare” to go after his political enemies, i.e., Trump. Likewise, Trump and his backers are weaponizing Trumpian campaign tactics, normally reserved for the political world, to get him acquitted and (in the event that doesn’t work) to undermine the legitimacy of the court.
But here’s the problem: Courts aren’t supposed to be like campaigns.
On a campaign, image is everything. On a campaign, money talks. On a campaign, perception is reality.
In this post-truth world, the courts may be one of the last places where facts and logic matter, and where Trump and his accomplices can be held accountable.
But make no mistake, this trial could very well be another historic occasion for MAGA to erode norms and undermine institutions (such as Jan. 6, for starters). The real question is whether this is done subtly or audaciously. Although physical security inside the courtroom will be tight, Trump’s supporters can still use social media and other communications tools to remotely attack and potentially intimidate witnesses, the judge, and the jurors.
And if Trump’s supporters aren’t dangerous enough, Trump is (for lack of a better word) inciting them. He has already violated a gag order by attacking key witnesses, former Trump fixer Michael Cohen and former porn star Stormy Daniels, and referring to them as “sleazebags,” according to prosecutors.
But remember, this is just the beginning. They’re just getting started.
When we talk about Trump and his minions, we are talking about people who were willing to lie about the 2020 election. We are talking about people who were willing to incite a Capitol riot with the intent to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And we’re talking about people whose passion for Trump has only increased with every indictment. It’s difficult to imagine that there is any line they will not cross.
Why should this Trump campaign... erm, trial be any different?
Matt Lewis
Senior Columnist
The Trump Trial Just Started and MAGA’s Mind Is Already Melting
NORMAL STUFF
Right-wing pundits are calling for jury nullification and accusing the judge of “election interference” and jury selection bias.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-day-1-of-the-trump-trial-and-maga-is-already-losing-its-mind
Matt Lewis Senior Columnist
Updated Apr. 16, 2024 8:28AM EDT Published Apr. 15, 2024 9:59PM EDT
Donald Trump’s New York hush-money-to-a-porn-star trial has barely begun and, already, his MAGA backers are trying to rig the outcome.
On Monday, conservative media personality Clay Travis sent the following tweet to his one million-plus Twitter (X) followers: “If you’re a Trump supporter in New York City who is a part of the jury pool, do everything you can to get seated on the jury and then refuse to convict as a matter of principle, dooming the case via hung jury. It’s the most patriotic thing you could possibly do.”
Make no mistake, this is a very dangerous and irresponsible message to send. It seeks to pervert the American legal system, a system where no man is above the law and the goal is to deliver blind justice.
For this trial’s jury selection, potential jurors are required to answer 42 questions to suss out whether they can be fair and impartial. So how would a hardcore Trump backer (or opponent, for that matter) make it on this jury? Travis is clearly encouraging Trump supporters to lie to get chosen for the jury, and then, irrespective of the evidence, to “refuse to convict.”
But Travis isn’t the only right-winger making mischief. Also on Monday, right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer (who was outside the courtroom, leading a group of Trump supporters) accused Judge Juan Merchan of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” for having the audacity to insist that Trump physically attend every day of the trial.
Meanwhile, Trump attorney Alina Habba (who is not representing him during this trial) is simultaneously accusing Judge Merchan of being unfair regarding jury selection rules. As always, Trumpworld is great at projection. As they attempt to unfairly influence jury selection, they accuse others of doing the same.
Based on day one, there is little doubt that this trial is about to become a circus (or worse). And what happens if things start to visibly go south during the trial for Trump? What happens if the jury finds him guilty? What will Steve Bannon say or do? Or Marjorie Taylor Greene? Or Charlie Kirk?
Just like the Big Lie, the effort to discredit and delegitimize this trial will not be limited to fringe actors. It’s incredible and horrible to think about it, but MAGA ideas have metastasized to the GOP mainstream. Case in point, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgam is calling this a “sham trial” and “an unprecedented attack” during “an election year.” This is straight out of the MAGA playbook.
To the degree he can get away with it, Trump is turning this trial into one big campaign. This is true in more ways than one.
Undermining America’s institutions (such as jury trials) fits into Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign narrative about Biden using “lawfare” to go after his political enemies, i.e., Trump. Likewise, Trump and his backers are weaponizing Trumpian campaign tactics, normally reserved for the political world, to get him acquitted and (in the event that doesn’t work) to undermine the legitimacy of the court.
But here’s the problem: Courts aren’t supposed to be like campaigns.
On a campaign, image is everything. On a campaign, money talks. On a campaign, perception is reality.
In this post-truth world, the courts may be one of the last places where facts and logic matter, and where Trump and his accomplices can be held accountable.
But make no mistake, this trial could very well be another historic occasion for MAGA to erode norms and undermine institutions (such as Jan. 6, for starters). The real question is whether this is done subtly or audaciously. Although physical security inside the courtroom will be tight, Trump’s supporters can still use social media and other communications tools to remotely attack and potentially intimidate witnesses, the judge, and the jurors.
And if Trump’s supporters aren’t dangerous enough, Trump is (for lack of a better word) inciting them. He has already violated a gag order by attacking key witnesses, former Trump fixer Michael Cohen and former porn star Stormy Daniels, and referring to them as “sleazebags,” according to prosecutors.
But remember, this is just the beginning. They’re just getting started.
When we talk about Trump and his minions, we are talking about people who were willing to lie about the 2020 election. We are talking about people who were willing to incite a Capitol riot with the intent to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And we’re talking about people whose passion for Trump has only increased with every indictment. It’s difficult to imagine that there is any line they will not cross.
Why should this Trump campaign... erm, trial be any different?
Matt Lewis
Senior Columnist
The Trump Trial Just Started and MAGA’s Mind Is Already Melting
NORMAL STUFF
Right-wing pundits are calling for jury nullification and accusing the judge of “election interference” and jury selection bias.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-day-1-of-the-trump-trial-and-maga-is-already-losing-its-mind
Matt Lewis Senior Columnist
Updated Apr. 16, 2024 8:28AM EDT Published Apr. 15, 2024 9:59PM EDT
Donald Trump’s New York hush-money-to-a-porn-star trial has barely begun and, already, his MAGA backers are trying to rig the outcome.
On Monday, conservative media personality Clay Travis sent the following tweet to his one million-plus Twitter (X) followers: “If you’re a Trump supporter in New York City who is a part of the jury pool, do everything you can to get seated on the jury and then refuse to convict as a matter of principle, dooming the case via hung jury. It’s the most patriotic thing you could possibly do.”
Make no mistake, this is a very dangerous and irresponsible message to send. It seeks to pervert the American legal system, a system where no man is above the law and the goal is to deliver blind justice.
For this trial’s jury selection, potential jurors are required to answer 42 questions to suss out whether they can be fair and impartial. So how would a hardcore Trump backer (or opponent, for that matter) make it on this jury? Travis is clearly encouraging Trump supporters to lie to get chosen for the jury, and then, irrespective of the evidence, to “refuse to convict.”
But Travis isn’t the only right-winger making mischief. Also on Monday, right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer (who was outside the courtroom, leading a group of Trump supporters) accused Judge Juan Merchan of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” for having the audacity to insist that Trump physically attend every day of the trial.
Meanwhile, Trump attorney Alina Habba (who is not representing him during this trial) is simultaneously accusing Judge Merchan of being unfair regarding jury selection rules. As always, Trumpworld is great at projection. As they attempt to unfairly influence jury selection, they accuse others of doing the same.
Based on day one, there is little doubt that this trial is about to become a circus (or worse). And what happens if things start to visibly go south during the trial for Trump? What happens if the jury finds him guilty? What will Steve Bannon say or do? Or Marjorie Taylor Greene? Or Charlie Kirk?
Just like the Big Lie, the effort to discredit and delegitimize this trial will not be limited to fringe actors. It’s incredible and horrible to think about it, but MAGA ideas have metastasized to the GOP mainstream. Case in point, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgam is calling this a “sham trial” and “an unprecedented attack” during “an election year.” This is straight out of the MAGA playbook.
To the degree he can get away with it, Trump is turning this trial into one big campaign. This is true in more ways than one.
Undermining America’s institutions (such as jury trials) fits into Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign narrative about Biden using “lawfare” to go after his political enemies, i.e., Trump. Likewise, Trump and his backers are weaponizing Trumpian campaign tactics, normally reserved for the political world, to get him acquitted and (in the event that doesn’t work) to undermine the legitimacy of the court.
But here’s the problem: Courts aren’t supposed to be like campaigns.
On a campaign, image is everything. On a campaign, money talks. On a campaign, perception is reality.
In this post-truth world, the courts may be one of the last places where facts and logic matter, and where Trump and his accomplices can be held accountable.
But make no mistake, this trial could very well be another historic occasion for MAGA to erode norms and undermine institutions (such as Jan. 6, for starters). The real question is whether this is done subtly or audaciously. Although physical security inside the courtroom will be tight, Trump’s supporters can still use social media and other communications tools to remotely attack and potentially intimidate witnesses, the judge, and the jurors.
And if Trump’s supporters aren’t dangerous enough, Trump is (for lack of a better word) inciting them. He has already violated a gag order by attacking key witnesses, former Trump fixer Michael Cohen and former porn star Stormy Daniels, and referring to them as “sleazebags,” according to prosecutors.
But remember, this is just the beginning. They’re just getting started.
When we talk about Trump and his minions, we are talking about people who were willing to lie about the 2020 election. We are talking about people who were willing to incite a Capitol riot with the intent to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And we’re talking about people whose passion for Trump has only increased with every indictment. It’s difficult to imagine that there is any line they will not cross.
Why should this Trump campaign... erm, trial be any different?
Matt Lewis
Senior Columnist
The Trump Trial Just Started and MAGA’s Mind Is Already Melting
NORMAL STUFF
Right-wing pundits are calling for jury nullification and accusing the judge of “election interference” and jury selection bias.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-day-1-of-the-trump-trial-and-maga-is-already-losing-its-mind
Matt Lewis Senior Columnist
Updated Apr. 16, 2024 8:28AM EDT Published Apr. 15, 2024 9:59PM EDT
Donald Trump’s New York hush-money-to-a-porn-star trial has barely begun and, already, his MAGA backers are trying to rig the outcome.
On Monday, conservative media personality Clay Travis sent the following tweet to his one million-plus Twitter (X) followers: “If you’re a Trump supporter in New York City who is a part of the jury pool, do everything you can to get seated on the jury and then refuse to convict as a matter of principle, dooming the case via hung jury. It’s the most patriotic thing you could possibly do.”
Make no mistake, this is a very dangerous and irresponsible message to send. It seeks to pervert the American legal system, a system where no man is above the law and the goal is to deliver blind justice.
For this trial’s jury selection, potential jurors are required to answer 42 questions to suss out whether they can be fair and impartial. So how would a hardcore Trump backer (or opponent, for that matter) make it on this jury? Travis is clearly encouraging Trump supporters to lie to get chosen for the jury, and then, irrespective of the evidence, to “refuse to convict.”
But Travis isn’t the only right-winger making mischief. Also on Monday, right-wing conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer (who was outside the courtroom, leading a group of Trump supporters) accused Judge Juan Merchan of “ELECTION INTERFERENCE” for having the audacity to insist that Trump physically attend every day of the trial.
Meanwhile, Trump attorney Alina Habba (who is not representing him during this trial) is simultaneously accusing Judge Merchan of being unfair regarding jury selection rules. As always, Trumpworld is great at projection. As they attempt to unfairly influence jury selection, they accuse others of doing the same.
Based on day one, there is little doubt that this trial is about to become a circus (or worse). And what happens if things start to visibly go south during the trial for Trump? What happens if the jury finds him guilty? What will Steve Bannon say or do? Or Marjorie Taylor Greene? Or Charlie Kirk?
Just like the Big Lie, the effort to discredit and delegitimize this trial will not be limited to fringe actors. It’s incredible and horrible to think about it, but MAGA ideas have metastasized to the GOP mainstream. Case in point, North Dakota Gov. Doug Burgam is calling this a “sham trial” and “an unprecedented attack” during “an election year.” This is straight out of the MAGA playbook.
To the degree he can get away with it, Trump is turning this trial into one big campaign. This is true in more ways than one.
Undermining America’s institutions (such as jury trials) fits into Trump’s 2024 presidential campaign narrative about Biden using “lawfare” to go after his political enemies, i.e., Trump. Likewise, Trump and his backers are weaponizing Trumpian campaign tactics, normally reserved for the political world, to get him acquitted and (in the event that doesn’t work) to undermine the legitimacy of the court.
But here’s the problem: Courts aren’t supposed to be like campaigns.
On a campaign, image is everything. On a campaign, money talks. On a campaign, perception is reality.
In this post-truth world, the courts may be one of the last places where facts and logic matter, and where Trump and his accomplices can be held accountable.
But make no mistake, this trial could very well be another historic occasion for MAGA to erode norms and undermine institutions (such as Jan. 6, for starters). The real question is whether this is done subtly or audaciously. Although physical security inside the courtroom will be tight, Trump’s supporters can still use social media and other communications tools to remotely attack and potentially intimidate witnesses, the judge, and the jurors.
And if Trump’s supporters aren’t dangerous enough, Trump is (for lack of a better word) inciting them. He has already violated a gag order by attacking key witnesses, former Trump fixer Michael Cohen and former porn star Stormy Daniels, and referring to them as “sleazebags,” according to prosecutors.
But remember, this is just the beginning. They’re just getting started.
When we talk about Trump and his minions, we are talking about people who were willing to lie about the 2020 election. We are talking about people who were willing to incite a Capitol riot with the intent to stop the peaceful transfer of power. And we’re talking about people whose passion for Trump has only increased with every indictment. It’s difficult to imagine that there is any line they will not cross.
Why should this Trump campaign... erm, trial be any different?
Matt Lewis
Senior Columnist
But the science CAN be questioned; It's the first step in almost every every scientific method flow chart. Peer review IS a form of questioning too.
Put on your lab coat Aaron.
https://www.bu.edu/articles/2021/myths-vs-facts-covid-19-vaccine/
https://portal.ct.gov/-/media/coronavirus/community_resources/vaccinations/print-materials/fact-sheets/development_english.pdf
Trump’s Unhinged Now, but Just Wait Until He Takes the Stand
WITNESS PROBLEMS
If Trump actually ends up testifying, there’s a good chance he will be his own worst legal liability.
Ray Brescia Published Apr. 16, 2024 5:41PM EDT
Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/Getty/Reuters
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-unhinged-now-but-just-wait-until-he-takes-the-stand?utm_source=web_push
As the first-ever criminal prosecution of a former president has finally gotten underway, the big question remains: “Will he or won’t he?” Will Donald Trump testify, that is.
His legal defense team may have little choice but to let its client put his right hand on the Bible and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. But his truth might not exactly set him free.
Trump’s serial incorrigibility, hair-trigger temper, and penchant for—shall we say—stretching the truth all make him any defense attorney’s nightmare as a witness. We’ve already seen it in other cases. This is the first one where the stakes are criminal.
Trump’s defense team failed in almost all of their pre-trial maneuvers: to delay the case, to move the case to another jurisdiction, and to get the judge presiding over the case to recuse himself. And despite an order restricting his efforts to try his case in the court of public opinion, he then attacked witnesses, the prosecution, the judge, and even the judge’s family. He now faces the possibility that he will be held in contempt of court for such statements.
After all of this, Trump and his legal team, and the prosecutors aligned against them, are finally selecting a jury. And opening statements and the first witnesses will follow soon thereafter.
“If the evidence presented by the prosecution is as significant as it seems it will be, what choice will the defense team, and Trump, have?”
Given the fact that Justice Merchan has already ruled that the prosecutors can introduce a wide range of evidence, it’s likely the defense team will have to make the decision that could mean victory or defeat in this case: should the former president testify?
What we know from Trump’s recent track record of providing testimony under oath, it hasn’t worked out great for him. As a result, the Trump legal team finds itself in a place no lawyer wants to be in during the course of representing a client: a distinct damned-if-you-do, damned-if-you-don’t situation.
Once the jury is sworn in, the evidence it will hear sounds like it could be quite bad for Mr. Trump.
Jury members will hear allegations of a coordinated effort with representatives of the National Enquirer to kill unfavorable stories by paying off those who had potentially damaging information about the former president—information, it is also alleged, he feared might sway the 2016 election against him.
They are also going to learn the contents of the Access Hollywood tape, where Trump infamously claimed he could grab women by their genitalia. Yes, the defense team was able to prevent the tape itself from being played in court, but the statements made on that tape are coming in as evidence, and they’re awful.
The defense team probably thought the heart of the prosecution’s case would be testimony offered by Michael Cohen, the former president’s former “fixer.” There are certainly questions that any defense counsel could raise about Cohen’s credibility, but there does seem to be quite a bit of evidence that will corroborate Cohen’s testimony. As a result, the core strategy—undermine Cohen—does not seem like it will be enough, on its own, to significantly weaken the prosecution’s case.
As a result, the former president and his legal team are likely to face a series of questions, ones that every defense team and its client must answer at the close of the prosecution’s case.
What sort of case do they put on themselves, if any? Will they rely on a belief that the prosecution’s case was so weak that no jury will convict the defendant and present no evidence of their own? If the attorneys do think they have to put on a case, that will then pose the most fundamental question any criminal defense team has to answer: “Will the defendant testify?”
What we know of the former president’s sworn testimony in prior cases, he does not seem to make the best witness.
He famously claimed that E. Jean Carroll wasn’t his “type.” When asked to identify a woman in a picture, he said he believed it was his second wife, Marla Maples (presumably his type). It was actually Carroll herself. In his trial before Justice Engoron, he gave long and rambling speeches that were off-topic and unpersuasive. Indeed, the court found that Trump’s testimony actually undermined his credibility.
If the evidence presented by the prosecution is as significant as it seems it will be, what choice will the defense team, and Trump, have?
Trump Trial Just Started and MAGA’s Mind Is Already Melting
NORMAL STUFF
Matt Lewis
Illustrative gif of a melting smiley face wearing a MAGA Make America Great Again hat and a twitching eye
https://www.thedailybeast.com/its-day-1-of-the-trump-trial-and-maga-is-already-losing-its-mind
It’s a classic lose-lose situation.
How the issue is navigated could very well mean the difference between a guilty verdict, or winning over the jury. Trump probably believes in his own ability to sway the jury (or at least one juror to try to secure a “hung jury” and a mistrial). An objective view of his recent efforts to defend himself is that they have not gone well.
Still, if the evidence is so damaging, Trump may have no choice but to testify. Failing to testify could leave the evidence unanswered. If he does take the stand, a cornered Trump—fighting for his freedom—will face devastating evidence and withering cross-examination, with the stakes as high as they can be. To put it lightly, it would be quite ugly. And the result of the trial could be equally so, for him.
Unsurprisingly?
SOMETIMES appearances are not deceiving.....
Roundly roasted? She should be Ka-boobed, ethnically and attributes so to speak.
"I've been admonished like that — it's by design," Habba said. "It's make you appear to be stupid in front of a jury."
Habba was roundly roasted by commenters on social media.
"It’s working honey…. you appear to be the worst attorney in history," replied Todd Lambert.
"Oh hey!" added @SiriusDrakeCGBI. "How is faking being smart working out for you Alina?"
Others laughed at her complaint that a prosecutor in New York would try his case in New York, where he was elected to prosecute crimes, and where the crime is alleged to have taken place.
"He brought it in New York because he is the Manhattan DA," wrote voting rights attorney Marc Elias.
"Yes, the reason is because venue is wherever the crime takes place. As it has been since Myles Standish hopped off the Mayflower," wrote former GOP strategist turned Meidas Touch editor Ron Filipkowski.
"Yes it certainly is curious that the Manhattan DA didn't bring this case in Oklahoma," wrote political YouTuber Brian Tyler Cohen.
Trump Wanted to See Crowd Outside Trial. He Got 50 Randos.
‘LET’S GO GET SOME TACOS’
A couple of hungry Proud Boys, Laura Loomer, and some people from Queens.
Emily Shugerman Senior Reporter
Updated Apr. 15, 2024 3:40PM EDT Published Apr. 15, 2024 1:24PM EDT
https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-wanted-to-see-crowd-outside-trial-he-got-50-randos
Outside the Manhattan Criminal Court on Monday, a “Christian conservative rapper” who identified himself as “Shawn DVS 7.0” awaited the arrival of Donald Trump.
“Sometimes I have my disagreements with Trump, but nobody compares,” he said, resting a full-size American flag pole on his shoulder. Democrats, he added, “couldn’t get him with collusion, they couldn’t get him with all the other stuff before, so now they’re going with all these side angles.”
He was one of about 50 Trump-stanning protesters who gathered for the start of jury selection in the first of Trump’s four criminal trials. Penned up outside 100 Centre St., they carried signs reading “Trump 2024, Save America,” and “The Purge Begins, Tuesday November 5.”
They were easily outnumbered by the phalanx of reporters and police—which left at least one of them disappointed.
“I thought more people would be here,” said the woman, who gave only her first name, Sophia. She had taken the subway an hour and half from Queens to lower Manhattan to sort-of attend the first-ever criminal trial of a former president.
“When they do finally take our freedom of speech away and screw us over, nobody better say anything about it,” she added. “Shut up, you didn't fight for your rights.”
The courthouse sideshow included some familiar Trumpworld figures, including far-right conspiracy theorist Laura Loomer and Andrew Giuliani, the son of former Trump attorney and New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani.
Asked about the weak turnout on the street, the younger Giuliani replied: “I’m more worried about what’s going on in that courtroom than out here.”
Andrew Giuliani outside of Manhattan Criminal Court.
MAGA supporters, unsurprisingly, believe the trial itself is election interference—a, shall we say, trumped-up case designed to sink a man running for re-election. And they have all sorts of theories about what is really going on.
Shawn, for instance, thinks that Michael Cohen, the Trump attorney who made the hush-money payments to Daniels and later turned on him, was the one having an affair with Daniels. (One of Shawn’s biggest hits on Spotify is a song called MAGA Vibe,” the lyrics of which include: “Somebody go get the grill and the deer Trump Jr. killed.”)
Trump appears to be trying to turn his criminal trial, which will keep him trapped in a courtroom for six weeks, into a surrogate campaign event, telling his supporters on Truth Social on the eve of the trial that he would “SEE YOU TOMORROW.”
But the gathering outside the courthouse had neither the turnout nor the energy of a typical Trump rally. Most seemed to have arrived an hour or two before trial started, and Loomer and Giuliani left shortly after the former president sullenly entered at 9:30 am.
“I do notice there are more members of the media here than actual patriots,” said Patrick McAndrews, who said he was there to support Trump and to “network” for his conservative events newsletter. “I would like to have seen a bigger turnout, but we’re all sitting on our hands waiting for Trump to announce his big New York rally.”
A committed group camped out in the pen for hours as jury selection progressed and the day turned uncomfortably hot. Someone pulled out a portable speaker and started playing music; a signboard reading,”COVID-19: A Super War that Subverted President Trump” was erected. Two members of the far-right Proud Boys got restless around 12:45 p.m. “Let’s go get some tacos,” one of them urged his friend.
For those who had non-Trump business in the courtroom, the tight security and the media attention was mostly an inconvenience. One woman, after being told that the crowds were there for Trump, sighed and said, “Is that why I can’t get to my trial against my landlord today?”
Only one person seemed truly pleased with the events of that morning. Standing on a park bench in the middle of the Trump pen, wearing a poster around his neck reading, “Trump is a narcissist liar,” an older man named Marc Leavitt loudly played “God Bless America” on the flute.
Asked why he turned out that morning, he beamed and told a reporter: “It’s a great day for the rule of law.”
It's an expression of the voices in their heads, shouting at the top of those voices
Do these people think the highlighting is just some kind of decoration?
There is plenty else that is easier to prove than insurrection, though it's clear that the fat orange f'k DID incite those assholes to do what we all saw.
Before you respond with your usual fact-challenged nonsense try this thought experiment ......I know, I know, heavy lifting for you. Imagine the 4 charges are against a defeated one term president Hillary Clinton. You would not question a single charge and you f''ing know it
Five takeaways from Trump's indictment for 2020 election interference
2 August 2023
By Kayla Epstein,
BBC News, New York
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64034782
The special counsel investigating Donald Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results has issued four charges against the US former president.
The 45-page indictment alleges Mr Trump orchestrated a broad conspiracy designed to keep him in power after he was defeated by President Joe Biden.
It accused him of knowingly spreading "pervasive and destablising lies" about election fraud that threatened the presidential election and therefore American democracy.
Mr Trump described the charges - the third separate criminal indictment he is facing - as part of "un-American witch hunts" against him.
The four charges are conspiracy to defraud the United States, conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, obstruction of an official proceeding, and conspiracy against rights.
Some legal experts say it will be a challenge to prove that Mr Trump's actions amount to crimes, and that a potential defence could be that what he said and did was protected by the US Constitutional First Amendment right to free speech.
Here are five key takeaways from the Justice Department's case.
1. Trump is accused of a wide-ranging conspiracy
In the indictment, special counsel Jack Smith does not focus on one particular incident, such as the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol by Mr Trump's supporters. Instead he considers the entirety of Mr Trump's actions over a two-month period from just after election day to the day he left the White House.
Graphic saying Mr Trump is accused of telling lies in a bid to cling on to power, alongside a quote from the indictment reading: "Despite having lost, the defendant was determined to remain in power. So for more than two months following election day on November 3, 2020, the Defendant spread lies that there had been outcome-determinative fraud in the election and that he had actually won."
Prosecutors go on to outline a three-part criminal conspiracy that violated various elements of Section 18 of the US Code:
A conspiracy to defraud the US by using fraud and deceit to impair, obstruct and defeat how the government collects, counts and certifies the results of presidential elections
A conspiracy to corruptly obstruct and impede the certification of the electoral college results by Congress on 6 January
A conspiracy against the right to vote and to have one's vote counted, which comes under the conspiracy against rights statute
That last charge brings home the alleged harm Mr Trump directly caused to voters, said Daniel Charles Richman, a professor at Columbia University Law School.
He is accused of harm not just to the government and to Congress, but also "to the citizens whose right to have their votes mean something Trump allegedly tried to take away", Mr Richman told the BBC.
2. Trump allegedly had six co-conspirators
The indictment mentions six people who allegedly helped Mr Trump carry out his unlawful efforts to overturn the election results, by pushing officials to ignore the popular vote, to disenfranchise millions of voters and replace legitimate electors with fake ones.
The document does not name them, but five are identifiable as details about their alleged behaviour in the indictment track closely to material about named individuals that was already in the public domain.
Co-conspirator 1, described as "an attorney who was willing to spread knowingly false claims and pursue strategies that the Defendant's 2020 re-election campaign would not", appears to be Rudy Guiliani, his lawyer said in a statement.
Graphic saying that the six co-conspirators have not been named or charged yet - possibly because they are cooperating, alongside a quote from the indictment reading: "The Defendant enlisted co-conspirators to assist him in his criminal efforts to overturn the legitimate results of the 2020 presidential election and retain power."
The details for co-conspirator 2 match what is known about lawyer John Eastman. His lawyer Charles Burnham said in a statement that the indictment used a "misleading presentation of the record to contrive criminal charges against Presidential candidate Trump and to cast ominous aspersions on his close advisors".
Co-conspirators 3, 4 and 5 are reported in US media as being former Trump lawyer Sidney Powell, former Justice Department official Jeffrey Clark and lawyer Kenneth Chesebro, but so far none of them has made any comments.
The sixth co-conspirator, described in the indictment as a political consultant, has not been identified.
Prosecutors included these individuals to back up their conspiracy charges against Trump, Aziz Huq of the University of Chicago Law School, explained. Basically, you can't have a conspiracy with just one person - you have to conspire with others.
However, the six have not been charged in this indictment - and there is no guarantee all will be. There could be many possible reasons prosecutors decided not to name the co-conspirators here, Mr Huq said. For one, these individuals could be co-operating with investigators.
3. Mike Pence was taking notes, lots of them
The indictment mentions the former vice-president more than 100 times and provides fresh details on conversations the two men had - largely thanks to copious notes Mr Pence was taking of their interactions. The document refers to his notes several times.
One Christmas Day exchange stands out.
"On December 25, when the the Vice President called the Defendant to wish him a Merry Christmas, the Defendant quickly turned the conversation to January 6 and his request that the Vice-President reject electoral votes that day," the indictment reads.
"The Vice-President pushed back, telling the Defendant, as the Vice President already had in previous conversations, 'You know, I don't think I have the authority to change the outcome."
After another similar conversation a week later, Trump told him, according to the indictment: "You're too honest."
Since leaving office in 2021, the former vice-president has been largely defined by the role he played in those days, leading up to the US Capitol attack.
His resistance to Mr Trump's pressure to reject the true electoral votes - defying his former boss - put him in danger as a mob shouting his name went on the rampage in the corridors of Congress.
It has also alienated him with the former president and with large sections of Trump supporters, complicating his own run for the Republican nomination.
4. Trump knowingly repeated false claims of election fraud
The indictment does not just allege Trump made false claims - it says that he knew that what he was saying about the election results wasn't true.
"The Defendant repeated and widely disseminated them anyway - to make his knowingly false claims appear legitimate, create an intense national atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election."
Graphic saying that proving Mr Trump knew he was lying will be key to the prosecution's case, alongside a quote from the indictment reading: "The Defendant widely disseminated his false claims of election fraud for months, despite the fact that he knew, and in many cases had been informed directly, that they were not true."
Government prosecutors say this is an important element to his conspiracy to stay in power.
The indictment also says Trump lied and echoed false claims of election fraud for months, despite repeatedly being told they weren't true by multiple people in his circle, those "whom he relied" on for "candid advice". That list includes:
Vice-President Mike Pence, who told Mr Trump he had seen no evidence voter fraud which would have altered the outcome of the election
Senior White House attorneys appointed by Trump, who told him "that his presidency would end on Inauguration Day in 2021"
Senior leaders of the Justice Department appointed by Trump, who told him on "multiple occasions" that his fraud allegations were unsupported
The indictment points to an occasion on 31 December, 2020, when Mr Trump, having been told again his claims were unfounded, allegedly "suggested he might change the leadership in the Justice Department".
Establishing that Mr Trump knew he was lying will be crucial to proving his intent to commit a crime.
5. Trump may have a free speech defence
Jack Smith acknowledges in the indictment that Mr Trump, like any American, had a right to challenge the results of the election, and even to falsely claim that he only lost because of supposed voter fraud.
That First Amendment constitutional right to express his views may be one hurdle the prosecution has to overcome in this case.
Jonathan Turley, a prominent conservative legal scholar, who described Mr Trump's previous indictment related to classified documents as strong, tweeted that the special counsel Jack Smith had "just issued the first criminal indictment of alleged disinformation".
"Some of the speech might be protected by the First Amendment," said Mr Huq of the University of Chicago Law School. But, he added: "Speech that is used to facilitate the crime is almost never covered by the First Amendment."
Graphic saying that prosecutors allege Mr Trump's false statements were a key part of his plan, alongside a quote from the indictment reading: "The Defendant's knowingly false statements were integral to his criminal plans to defeat the federal government function, obstruct the certification, and interfere with others' right to vote and have their votes counted."
That might be a reason why the special counsel tries to stress that what Mr Trump said and did was a key component of his conspiracy to overturn the election result.
"The defendant's knowingly false statements were integral to his criminal plans to defeat the federal government function, obstruct the certification, and interfere with others' right to vote and have their votes counted," states one key passage.
Trump would have done no such thing. I'm saying Biden knew full well that 'don't' was unlikely to deter, hence the preparation and coordination of the missile defenses that ended up making Iran look ineffectual and foolish.
IF Biden was that confident in the results then yeah, a ploy.