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Managing trusts must disperse to DTC registered investors (those who released for their portion %) on an annual basis. These REIT trusts are not affiliated with the old debtors, LT, hedgies, JPM, FDIC, or whatever boogyman. They are legally obligated fiduciaries to their constituents. They paid WMI investors faithfully before bankruptcy, and they will pay legacy WMI investors after BK. They were legally obligated to safe harbor (pause button) anything WMI related for the last 10 years......Until the Bks ended.
The Bankruptcies (2) closed this year 2020. Safe harbor no longer applies a freeze to these securities. IRS 90% rule states the managing trusts (REIT) must disperse on an annual basis.
There is no more 'but this or that' to hold hostage. It is finally over, and we wait for the next annual distribution date.
Those who released should receive their portion % of the last 10+ years up thru 12/31/2020, of accumulated income +interest.
Plus, Every year following there will be annual dispersements of continuing and ongoing accumulations. One goes out to 2041.
This: shows the chronology of filings by WMIH CORP to the DTC. The newest one on top being 07/22/2020 at 8am. An 'Entity Legal Form Code" of "XTIQ". Meaning 'incorporated'. "a 'mutual fund of mutual funds'
https://search.gleif.org/#/record/549300KD8C6DPXYC2M26/record_modifications
WMIH CORP is very much alive.
Your escrow tracking markers only represent your tiny percent ownership of a corresponding WMIH CORP ISIN related investment.
All maintained and verified by the DTC
I've already decoded it, but thanks
Starting at post 633775, read everything I posted from there
That’s the only impression you got? After all those posts and screenshots? You must not of released, or you’d have noticed.
WMIH CORP is shown to be “ACTIVE” and “FULLY CORROBORATED” by the DTC as parent holding company
COOP, Mr. Cooper, the LT, etc has no ISIN codes.
WMIH CORP owns 40 Active ISIN Cusips specifically proving legacy WMI securities and many are producing, not matured/liquidated. One produces income till 2041.
You can read every single one if you choose to. I posted for those who don’t.
There is no refuting this. It’s clear as day. Every lie from the LT and it’s EC minions for 10 years fails now.
What will happen, is some of the same people will try and bury this with non issues, ignoring proof of life for ones escrow tracking cusips. Must be professional legal liability on the line when one’s conflicts of interest lead many to not release or switch out while on the company dime
There are various online libraries like ANNA where you can sign and get a free account.
As AZ has posted, investors interests are calculated on an annual basis. With WMIH CORP (trading as COOP) finally exiting BK in 2020, safe harbor protections evaporate, and the normal rules apply for the trusts who are obligated to manage investor’s returns. 90% has to be returned to investors now on an annual basis. That is the trigger. This should happen finally on an annual basis.
90% of acculmulations + interest lump sum from over the last 10 years, plus receive ongoing annual returns into the future until maturity. Plus whatever Coop stock does. 3 things to look forward to
Your escrow cusips only represent your portion % of the WMIH CORP ISIN cusips I posted. The actual cusips are contained in the ISIN cusips. Research how to decipher an ISIN cusip. It’s pretty simple
The ISIN number contains the Cusip number. Keep reading
I did : )
Got some of our own brewing on the Straits this week. only the water temp is in the 40s
yeah....it kinda seems like 'abighammer' and trading friends needed an army of retail on board to force an EC, get a seat at the table, etc...they needed a good horse to ride to the end of BK.
Only the ultimate plan was to ride that horse to death along the way, before the end..
Once we had an EC and gained enough traction, how many people were then conned into buying H's and Dimes, selling Commons, etc...years of beatdowns. Remember how that story switched around the time just before Boardpost started.
All of a sudden, all the unity was gone and the heavy peeps starting crapping on anyone and everyone like AZ.
They rode us as long as they needed, and dropped us like a bad smell. Thank god I saw through it and released.
Those who didn't should sue their asses off. There are people who know their names.
Well, AZ found it long ago. I just finally had a moment to sit down and chase some ideas that verified the trail he left for us. Blew my mind to actually see the proof....in WMIH CORPs name as an "ACTIVE" and "FULLY CORROBORATED" by the DTC source
It’s never been hidden! You just had to know where to look. There’s been a monstrous effort to confuse, mislead, and Pied Piper many off the lemming leap to not release. I always knew safe harbor in BK was real, and that was enough for me to release. I’ve sat back and watched, listened, observed for the last few years. Got back to surfing and living. But I’m always pondering this stuff, and had an epiphany last night about where to poke, and there it was. Out in the open, free information to those who seek....well, not free to those who pay others to obfuscate.
Verified by the DTC. I’ve found more, to where its redundant. Do what you gotta do, you be you, I expect nothing less.
Thx to who ever just bought me an unlimited posting membership. I was wondering how I got to keep going. Cheers and Shaka! Your Drinks are on me!
No, because your escrow tracking cusip you listed, are just that....bookmarks that represent your percentage ownership of whichever ISIN cusips that you hold a percentage of
post # 633911. Im out of posts for the day.
Post 633919 is the complete lists of WMIH CORP ISIN codes that ALL are listed as Legacy WMI and ongoing securities.
Nobody stole them, not JPM or hedgies, or LT. They are right there under our noses, in plain daylight.
I'm 1000% satisfied about my escrow cusips.
Here are the WMIH CORP ISIN codes listed, as Washington Mutual INC (WMI) securities. One has a maturity date of year 2041 (also like AZ has said before)
WMIH CORP ISIN Codes: For those who chose to look on their own.
US9393221117 WMI WT EXP MATURITY 05/03/2041
US939322024 WMI PFD SErC Perp
US9393224004 WMIPFD SER E Perp
US9393225092 WMI PFD Ser F 8.3%
US9393226082 WMI DEPOSITORY RCPT SER F EACH SH REPOSITORY
US9393227072 WMI CL A
US9393227569 WMI PRF SER S
US9393227643 WMI CONV PERP PFD SER T ACCD INVS
US9393227726 WMI CONV PERP PFD SER T 144A
US9393227809 WMI CONV PERP PFD SER S ACCS INVS
US9393227981 WMI CONV PERP PFD
US9393228062 PFD
CLEARLY legacy WMI, which if for those who released.
Clearly not COOP or MR COOPER or the LT. COOP will be fine as an investment as an ongoing servicer.
Your cusip if you released, represents your % of the corresponding ISIN. And what I'm seeing right now.....is an "active" and fully corroborated by the DTC, a WMIH CORP ISIN numbers specifically stating for P preferred, K convert pref convertible, and UQ commons.
AZ WAS and IS right!
Look at what i just now posted as a screenshot from GoFile. It is an active bond for Washington Mutual Inc. (WMI) Preferreds. Holy cow. I'm freeking out seeing proof of life.
Here is a WMIH CORP active bond for WMI preferreds: ! ! ! Another smoking gun
click on my GoFile link to screen shot insert-text-here
Holy moly, to clarify why they are paid once a year.....I found these instruments on ANNA, and they are listed as bonds that calculate interest on an annual basis. So investors are only getting annually paid.
I just started tracking the half of the 40 WMIH CORP ISIN security codes that I had previously posted, that were not listed by Schwab as Matured or Liquidated.
You can get a free ANNA-web.org ISIN bond library access account. This allows you to find and record each one. I've only looked at two, and they are CFI instruments, ie mutual funds that track other mutual funds. They do exist. These two ISIN coded bonds are titled Washington Mutual Savings Bank Seattle, 4% and 4.8% ACT 365.
Gonna go thru the rest of them, probably take a while.
Corporation Service Company and that address is just the registered agent for WMIH CORP, as holding company of Mr COOPER. Notice the Delaware address. Its what all US corporations, big and small, use. CSC represents probably thousands of companies as their registered agent, and basically keeps all their filings with the state up to date. There are many other services they provide if you look further.
10 years of money + interest, isn't flowing yet, as the year hasn't ended. The trusts always disperse to investors at end of year. If you released, we are all making good interest on that money. So when it comes to you, it'll be worth it.
Sidedraught for the Win.
I'll do 2 uploads. This first URL, is my worksheet tracking the 40 ISIN Codes listing as ACTIVE per DTC as WMIH CORP securities. (legacy WMI); as shown in my post I am replying to.
The pink highlighted ones indicate securities converted to bonds, and eventually liquidated or matured, and some appear International possibly.
The non-highlighted print represents Active securities pumping out cash investment every month.
And again, they represent 2 things: liquidated accumulated cash over the last 10 years in BK, and secondly, ongoing cash producing securities....
I think this will work: click on the blue link, I tested it and it works. Goes to Golfie host insert-text-here
yes please. iPhone
Sidedraught for the Win.
I'll do 2 uploads. This first URL, is my worksheet tracking the 40 ISIN Codes listing as ACTIVE per DTC as WMIH CORP securities. (legacy WMI); as shown in my post I am replying to.
The pink highlighted ones indicate securities converted to bonds, and eventually liquidated or matured, and some appear International possibly.
The non-highlighted print represents Active securities pumping out cash investment every month.
And again, they represent 2 things: liquidated accumulated cash over the last 10 years in BK, and secondly, ongoing cash producing securities....
I think this will work: Stand by, I think i figured out my mistake. says file is 7.5 mb
OK thanks Sidedraght for the PM, and thanks TradeIn, I'll try. Thx
I've got an IMAC, and I screen shotted the smallest version I could. Im thinking there's gotta be a way to convert the file somehow that can be extracted later, or maybe I can change iPhone camera to take a lesser quality photo?
I know Apple can be simplistic compared to Android.
I tried about 20 free companies yesterday. My file was too large. I'm just gonna have to suck it up and pay for a larger capacity. Not a big deal, but I'm just stubborn about things I feel I should be able to figure out. Computers just aint my thing
Az has posted a few times about the IRS 90% rule. From years ago research I know this to be true. WMI and WMIIC are discharged from BK. I cant fathom what else stands in the way. The REITs can no longer legally hold onto the money that whose who released, are due.
Keep in mind, this is important...of the 40 registered security ISIN numbers that WMIH CORP (not COOP) owns that are "ACTIVE" and "FULLY CORROBORATED" per the DTC, from my homework (that I'm still trying to upload here) half would be liquidated or matured into cash plus interest over some portion of the last ten years during the BK, and the other half are still ongoing cash producing securities.
This is a 2 fold return: 1 Part as accumulated cash, and 1 Part future and Ongoing investment. This jives exactly with how my escrow positions are held at Schwab...... 1 Part in Cash account, and 1 Part in Bonds account. Hand meets Glove. Its makes perfect sense.
I think the problem is I'm trying to take a pic with my iPhone and the resolution ends up being too large to upload.
I tried that but the free ones are limited to the size you can upload. I might just have to pay for an upgraded package just to get a URL for the screen shot.
Weird, that I could post the first one....and not the other 2
Thx AZ. I went through all 40 of those WMIH CORP ISIN security numbers. About half Matured or Liquidated after being converted to "WMIH" bonds.
I took a screen shot of them all researched, but I cant post it as I think the resolution of my phone is too high. Gonna keep trying....
Keep reading. What is the STATUS? "ACTIVE" and " FULLY CORROBORATED" as double checked by me at the DTC
Those are a list of events. The "Lapsed" was prior to the occurrence of the last update was 07-21-2020.
Top of the list, most relevant "STATUS" is.....ACTIVE
Nothing to worry about.
Its irrefutable. plain as day. verified by DTC. I've posted the exact links. Anyone can read and study it.
Bottom line? WMIH CORP is proven to be the parent holding company and is 'just' trading as COOP. WMIH CORP has 40 verified securities with corresponding ISIN numbers that show ongoing securities as they've existed since before 2008, or lliquated or matured versions of these securities that were converted to bonds just prior, during the bankruptcy. These ISIN numbers are DTC listed as "ACTIVE" and "FULLY CORROBORATED" as belonging to the LEI security holder number belonging to WMIH CORP. COOP has no LEI number, and files with the SEC. If you released, Escrow marker cusips represent your interests as a percentage in various WMIH CORP (legacy WMI) securities as evidenced by their DTC listing as ACTIVE and FULLY CORROBORATED.
I'm happy to see COOP fly, but its a distraction. As AZ has explained why, these investments have to pay up now by year end.
It cant be hidden any longer
All these WMIH CORP trading as COOP, DTC "active" and "Fully Corroboroated" ISIN NUMBERS all start with the numbers 939.....
Remind you of something? Same first 3 as my P escrow markers, which reside in my Schwab Bonds holdings. Maybe proof of my percentage share of any 939xxx ISIN number holdings representing ISIN securities still active going forward?
Commons escrows also 939xxx, and live on my cash and stocks page at schwab and state for future payment. Maybe proof of my percentage share of any 939xxx ISIN Number holdings representing WMIH CORP ISIN securities, that were shown to be converted to bonds, and that now are shown to be either Liquidated (LIQd) or Matured (MATd)
regarding some of the WMIH CORP ISIN codes where no info is found, and wy I think these are still active and performing securities, is because every single other ISIN Number that Matured or Liquidated has one other tidbit of information...
...and that tidbit states those few ISIN codes such as US939322AG85 were "Exchanged For Bonds" and then it lists the bond such as "WMIH 5.625 01/15/07 MATd" Matured
One "Exchanged for Bonds" WMIH CORP trading as COOP ISIN NUMBER also has the letters "FRN" before Matured? Indicating an international security?
Interesting stuff....
Some of the "Exchanged for Bonds" dates go out to 2041
thanks! you're not gonna believe what I'm finding so far researching WMIH Corp's ACTIVE 40 (forty) ISIN numbers, listed on their holding company LEI identification number. That is 40 separate securitiy identifiers. Specifically, ISIN number represents
I'll post when finished with all of them, but I'm finding a large portion of these ISIN number were "Exchanged for Bonds" and then it lists the bond it became (ie WMIH 8.2508/15/06 LIQd (Liquidated)).
Many fo these ISIN security numbers registered to WMIH CORP the holding company of Mr Cooper Group, that were also "Exchanged for Bonds" of various names..so far....are all stating MATd (Matured).
A significant amount of the ISIN numbers for WMIH CORP have "No Info". Since only MATd (Matured) and LIQd (Liquidated) seem to be recorded...might it be possible that these "no info" ISIN numbers still reflect the original securities functioning in safe harbor...ie winding down? I think so. Otherwise, the would show liquidated or matured. There is no other explanation for an "ACTIVE" ISIN security tracking number owned by WMIH CORP, the holding company, merely name changed to Mr Cooper Group.
I'm halfway through the list. I post if anything changes.
But holy moly, WMIH CORP is alive and well, is the holding company for MR COOPER, and.....and... still holding its legacy securities..or for the time being....still holding title ,by ISIN Numbers, to their ORIGINAL WMI safe harbored interests.
Get this..... One ISIN Number owned by WMIH CORP, is the MR COOPER (COOP) common shares. MR Cooper is truly not the parent. It is WMIH CORP.
Smoking Gun, for real!