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John Bordynuik: "The positive net energy balance means we get twice the energy out of the fuel than we get in the combination of: (energy in the plastic feedstock plus energy used to convert to fuel). This is independent of the price/barrel because in most cases we get the source energy (that is feedstock) for nothing or paid to accept (tip fee).Therefore, we are not paying for that energy. The off-gas comes from the feedstock. We actually have a surplus of natural gas so we will pipe it to a generator."
JB also stated: "A "positive net energy balance" does NOT mean we consume 1 barrel for every two we produce. I was going to explain what is scientifically meant by "the positive net energy balance" yesterday but I believed some fools would actually think either: "perpetual motion" or "2 at the high cost of 1 barrel" which would then give skeptics and investors an idea of who really knows what they are talking about and those that don't."
But you still haven't answered Scandle's question: what is your specific point?
someone call me?
In some cases haulers may pay JBI to take the waste plastic rather than pay a tipping fee to the local dump.
Otherwise, your list covers the variables quite well.
There may be some tax credits available for the rollout to municipalities, especially if the EPA should give the green light on JBI's processors. EPA...that's a federal agency if I remember correctly.
Clear path to profitability coming now: NY permitting likely very close, and when granted, will lead to multiple processors at the NY site alone. This by itself will lead to explosive revenue and earnings.
Anyone have a calculator with a multiplier button? Florida, Ohio, Colorado, California...
The chemists have now spoken...
Too funny!!
significant change== third party validation now complete, which leads to NY state permit, which leads to multiple processors soon producing revenue, which leads to explosive earnings power and visibility...
Clear path, yes?
John Bordynuik on FB:
"More info for those who are interested:
Sulphur less than 8PPM - some samples had no trace. (already stated in old PR's)
API is .786
Water 0.00%
sediment: 0.00%... See More
It's a game changer."
about a minute ago
EP, sounds like lots of fun. I'll get out my "monkey" suit and perhaps Brig will be kind enough to show up as Gandhi...
That's likely true... I just meant that with all these deals about to unfold one would think there might be some buying pressure developing, since money never sleeps. I'm long here since 8/09 and would like nothing better than to see sunny boy's thesis disproven.
And yes, Dumar, lack of awareness might be in play here, but one would think this is on more than a few radars (e.g. sterling)
uninspiring volume...eom
SIRI getting some love today...eom
add buffalo and you get a tetrasexual, as any good "vet" would tell ya...
Care to expand on that? PR too ambiguous?
More volume please... Is this thing ever going to come to life?
Revenue and earnings in the filings... those are Tier One for moving the PPS-- how soon can they get there?
Everything else is just a "maybe......."
people crying about their computers not working, equality, URS not being a good "fit"-- WTF? Has everyone gone insane or just enjoy speaking in code?? Sheesh...
how about a million shares traded with a rush to enter... what would that do to the PPS?
waiting for 10K... applications submitted mid-january. 90 days would be mid-april... coming soon
another possibility would be to have JB provide written answers to all those questions, and then have the moderated call for follow-up or additional questions.
That way, everybody has the Q&A in written form, and the actual call could be shorter... otherwise it could go on forever.
Anything positive here... or is today's news release one more indication that WLSA is on the back burner as far as JS is concerned?
Therein lies the problem... JN has given many glowing updates over the past year... and we're stuck at .03
That tells me the market is not listening to JN, and he can no longer create momentum by posting that this or that great thing is about to happen.
Only filings, hard numbers, uplist will get us moving now.
All that said, I am still holding long, because I have used the product myself and know it works well.
For all those who continue to believe that JBI is somehow a "scam" company, this is worth a repost...
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=47668060
yeah, you're both correct... have to go back and forth with the filter. Maybe when John gets a free moment (ha ha) he will initiate the change to "fan."
My crystal ball is telling me that its not high on his to do list at the moment...
In the meantime, I just use the "filter" on FB, and click "just John" to avoid the pillows and teddy bears
Great list of Qs EP, many thanks for the work on those!
large blocks went off at .50, total of 260,000 at that price, while bid and ask stay fixed at 40 X 42 ?? What's up with that?
corruption, bribes, nepotism are rampant in all developing countries... so the fact that Nigerian government officials are in attendance mean what now? That John will be getting scambaiting emails...oooow, now that's scary
Yes, over 200 investors have toured the site and Islechem has nearly completed their analysis. I guess we won't see you at the AGM? They had to change to a bigger conference room, because so many shareholders want to attend the AGM...
68 I believe
Nah... they're both pretty green here, and don't realize that the gremlins will pounce and massage everything they say...
I'd be happy to help out, but part of your private message got cut off in my mailbox. Would you kindly try again at the yahoo email address I gave you in early March? Many Thanks!
Clear enough for Ray Charles and Stevie Wonder to see...
Here is the source for the questions you are asking. Buy the whole article, its just a couple bucks, and will answer what you want to know. Why depend on second hand information?
http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/thestar/access/472053841.html?dids=472053841:472053841&FMT=ABS&FMTS=ABS:FT&type=current&date=Jun+27%2C+1990&author=Bill+Taylor+Toronto+Star&pub=Toronto+Star&edition=&startpage=A.2&desc=Error+adds+%241%2C191%2C825+to+man%27s+bank+account
Oil and gas, seismic, P2O... at one of the biggest conferences of its kind? The networking and sales contacts will be enormous, and will give JBI Global a truly global reach.
Finally, one post from you I can agree with. Many stocks on the OTC do involve shadowy trickster figures. Either they do not deliver or are based on smoke and mirrors. JB's P2O makes huge claims, and it remains to be seen whether he can deliver. Hence, the polemic continues to rage here, not helped by the pull of the intense "energy" involved in both the person and his vision.
Its really simple: those who do not "believe" should simply short the hell out of this stock, putting money where their mouths are...instead of trying to "convince" others...
High volume today (8 X normal) but no price movement... volume before price?
Indeed, part of both the appeal and cynicism displayed towards this company has to do with the preposterous claims that have been (and continue to be) made about P2O. In the beginning... it was "too good to be true," and even with recurring positive indications that the rollout might well happen, those who are dubious can always point to the pending Islechem report, pending 10K, and silence from exchanges supporting their point of view.
There is an "archetypal" aspect to "John," not just in the biblical sense. According to C.G.Jung, the archetype of the hero has several important qualities: doing something that's never been done before, struggling through adversity, finding a way to integrate opposites (in JB's case integrating different disciplines), and arriving at a new level of achievement. There is boundless energy, creative thinking, practical know how, and disciplined focus, all in the context of hard work. These are the qualities that contribute to the "aura," and the pull of the "archetypal field," at least as it is expressed through an individual.
There are dangers as well. Archetypes are numinous and compelling, creating a magnetic attraction and inducing unequivocal belief. Such "one-sidedness," because it is so extreme, evokes its polar opposite, and can leave one blind to a more well balanced and inclusive view. Its no surprise that all religions have and use archetypal elements (symbols, rituals, myths, stories) to support their belief system.
Wine into water, water into wine... the miraculous act (plastic into oil)-- Tikkiun Olam (repair of the earth). Honesty as a radical act in an age of deceit. Even the alchemical "lead into gold" motif becomes activated (if you bought shares early enough). It all there and more. So we should not be surprised that feelings run hot, and words boil over at times. All this, in addition to lots of money being on the line-- an archetype in itself!
And I might add a friendly warning to JB not to let any of this stuff go to his head. It is dangerous to identify with an archetype because ego inflation occurs, which can lead to grandiosity and vulnerability from the primitive unconscious aspects of the personality. The cure? Stay humble, stay grounded, stay focused, ignore the noise, and follow your own instincts with input from multiple trusted perspectives. And safe travels to Congo...
Is John leaving for Africa (Congo) today?