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Ok, then keep right on talking then. I'm going to a pleasant place, bed!! Old people like myself can't keep up with you youngsters. The good thing about being "older" is we've learned over time that we all reap what we sow. Good night.
I'll tell you another thing that the securities and exchange commision doesn't take kindly too and that's people spreading falsehoods (lies) to enduce selling of a stock. That's called "manipulation"! Nobody on this board has a clue about anything the S.EC is or isn't doing in reguards to this company and if someone says that they know, then they are being supplied with insider information that will land their butts in jail. To use the words "scam, fraudsters, crooks, criminals, and scammers" in reguards to someone that has yet to even be charged with a crime is defamation of character and slander IMO. All of these words have been used here to enduce selling and that is "stock manipulation"! I dare anyone to produce a conviction, judgement, or formal charges against anyone related to this company. Anyone? I'm a long shareholder here fwiw and that means I actually own shares in this company. So I have a right to talk about my investment!
Yes. So you use "proprietary algorithms"? Reason I ask, is in one of your responses to me, you use the word "we". Who is "we" and can you help me with an algorithm? I'd like to try to make some of the money back that the "pro's that use proprietary algorithms" have scimmed from me. That would be really swell.
I gotcha. So if we use the word "proprietary", does this give someone the green light to steal?
So what your saying is the system is rigged for the benefit a few and not so much the rest of the "sheep"? It seems as though it's impossible to get a fair shake in the market when a market maker is having coffee while his "proprietary algorithm" trading is fleecing the flock. No?
My goodness lady, your over here too? Wow, so do you think that "proprietary algorithms" trading is manipulating the markets? Possibly selling more stock then they own? I've always been curious as to why these houses were allowed an advantage over the rest of investors. What you think?
Well sir, I stand corrected. They are not "IOU'S" per the rules, they are "security entitlements". So, that leaves me with this question. Can some one help me find the additional 100 million shares of "security enetitlements" that were sold here illegally?. Lol. Better yet, can someone please credit my account with real shares!?!?!? I like "IOU'S" better. Lol
Did the securities and exchange commision determine that fraud has taken place here by the company or anyone for that matter yet? If so, can you please post that information up so us shareholders here can read the findings. I must have missed that. I do know it was suspended but to my knowledge, no judgements has been handed down yet. Thanks.
With 100 million "IOU'S" that were sold here, there shouldn't be any shortages of certs I would think. It's almost like a dust cloud. Hard to see, makes it hard to breathe, and made someone a lot of money through being crooked. It's financial "hazardous waste". Yeah, that fits.
It is very odd. That's a true statement. I thought about getting them cut and sent to me. I thought they would look great in a picture frame in my living room. See, I "invested" long here and so many people that don't own shares here telling me how I've lost all of my money, I figured why not. I'm very long here anyhow so what would it matter? My stock is worthless now right? Lol. Maybe if my shares are worthless as some suggest they are, maybe I can have my shares retired back to the company? I mean, afterall, the stock is at 0 right? Lol
Oh wow, so you didn't mind buying "IOU'S" here? That's a first. Good for you I guess.
Oh, I certainly know who cuts the certs. Are you thinking about getting your certs cut too?
So does that mean that CEDE will have the 100 million additional certs that was sold illegally here too? I wonder what the "street names" on those are?
Can someone help me explain why my trading account is filled with "IOU'S"? 100 million "IOU'S" are floating around out here IMO. Maybe NITE/ETRADE can help me locate these pesky things. I didn't see any of my buys listed on the audit so I have to assume that I hold "IOU'S" in this company. Anyone cover any shorted shares today?
Can you show me your evidence? I'd like to see it as I'm a very long shareholder here. Also, when the Securities and exchange commission is done with their investigation, we will certainly know the facts surrounding what has transpired here imo. Good night all, time for bed.
Well, normally that's how the S.EC things work, meeting face to face and such especially when figuring out what to do and getting folks on the record. But here's something I'm curious about and maybe you can help. What if the company and DR. Williams never sold a single share, then what?
Right when I thought you were here to help us shareholders out, you let me down.. But it is something that peaks my intrest!! Maybe the FBI can in fact determine if my stock is real or not. Thanks man. I owe you!
I'll tell you what, I'll give you 1,000 of my "IOU'S" that I bought here if you will help me find those 100 million shares that were sold illegally here.? Deal?
Hello "sir", can you help me find the 100 million shares that were sold illegally on this security? Also, no cursing. Ok... They have to be around here somewhere!?!?!?!?
My bet is that they "do exist", but that's neither here nor there because my opinion is like a bum-hole, we all have one. We will all find out very soon IMO.
Um, it does when the market on that security gets flooded with "IOU'S". Just about the same time the word "scam" started being used on the board here. Can someone please help me find the almost 100 million shares that were sold illegally here? Thanks in advance for those who are trying to find them.
Anyone found those pesky 100 million shares that were sold illegally here yet? My bet is it's even higher than that but time will tell us the real story here IMHO.
That's a good article and sums it all up quite nicely. Even though, they may be destroyed for voicing their opinion in such a profound way. How rude of them.
I didn't say ETRADE did... I said "they"......
For the record, how many shares has ETRADE (or ETMM) traded total for this stock? How many for NITE? Why did ETRADE finally pop back up to make a market after having never represented a bid or ask for almost a year? Any takers? I see ETMM has traded about 1.8 million shares total here. A buddy of mine has 2.4 million and bought them through ETRADE. How can this be? Never mind, all the answers I will get will not be correct in any shape or form, but there is the facts to the share volume.
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/tradeact_mv.asp?SearchBy=issue&Issue=EIGH&SortBy=volume&Month=10-1-2010&IMAGE1.x=21&IMAGE1.y=7
EIGH - 8000 INC COMMON
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October 2010 September 2010 Year-to-Date
Volume Rank % Volume Rank % Volume Rank %
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Total Share Volume 40,990,095
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NITE
Knight Equity Markets, L.P. 28,465,707 1 69 30,660,616 1 59 240,411,374 1 72
HDSN
Hudson Securities, Inc. 6,953,105 2 16 5,841,213 3 11 31,248,157 2 9
VFIN
vFinance Investments, Inc. 2,103,500 3 5 163,000 10 <1 7,114,230 6 2
ETMM
E*Trade Capital Markets Llc 1,663,527 4 4 45,741 14 <1 1,709,268 7 <1
AUTO
Automated Trading Desk 663,566 5 1 686,857 4 1 17,393,456 3 5
VNDM
Vandham Securities 394,800 6 <1 232,607 6 <1 1,277,097 9 <1
CSTI
Collins Stewart LLC 351,900 7 <1 217,200 8 <1 878,300 11 <1
UBSS
UBS Securities LLC 203,140 8 <1 - - - 203,140 15 <1
CHDN
Chardan Capital Markets LLC 71,000 9 <1 102,000 12 <1 173,000 17 <1
PUMA
Puma Capital, Llc 55,000 10 <1 120,000 11 <1 180,000 16 <1
DLNY
DELANEY EQUITY GROUP LLC 45,000 11 <1 - - - 45,000 20 <1
NOBL
Noble International Invest. 10,000 12 <1 409,100 5 <1 444,100 12 <1
INTL
INTL Trading, Inc. 5,000 13 <1 5,000 15 <1 10,000 23 <1
LAMP
Lampost Capital, L.C. 4,850 14 <1 95,000 13 <1 924,850 10 <1
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It's through EX-clearing...... they traded around the DTCC in my honest opinion..... Thus the reason ETMM (ETRADE) popped back on level 2 after having damn near all of their buys/sells routed through NITE and AUTO! ETMM never once represented a bid or an ask since I've been here and that's almost a year. Once NITE saw what was going on, it's my bet that NITE kicked ETMM to the curb and said make your own market IMO. NITE/ETMM is our NSS. Maybe not the brokers but the hedgies routing through them! If fraud has been discovered by any of these broker dealers, then that would void out their liability insurance and thus this loss can become "unlimited" if NSS is found.
Janice wants to talk about wash trades.... lmao.... cool.
Bottom line, the SEC will correct all wrongs here one way or another. Robert Khuzami (The new SEC enforcement director) is in now way shape or form a "jokester"! This guy means business, he is after fraudsters of any degree and if people think it's shocking that a few hedgefunds had their doors knocked down by the FBI last week, then they haven't seen anything yet!
Whomever has been Naked shorting this stock, I pitty you.
I bought some today at .012. I figured what the heck. I'm hard pressed believing the company would release this pr today while still being investigated and saying more BS. I think they have their ducks in a row so to speak. Should be interesting to see how this one plays out. Too many eyes from the SEC on it right now. All in my humble opinion.
Been watching and riding for a while now and watching the bullish crossovers the past few trading days makes me feel that the bulls are in the house. Tic Toc
Looks like we got some pretty darn good news today!!! It appears that a share count will have to take place here and that shorty is going to have to make a very costly decision. See the siggy.
Cascadia Investments (CDIV) Research and Traders Outlook
Last Updated: March. 09, 2010 - 10:32am EST
http://www.wallstreetnewscast.com/news/2010/march/cdiv-outlook.html
(NEW YORK) – Social networking company Cascadia Investments (OTC:CDIV) continues to hit new highs, and with rich valuations within the sector Ludlow Capital sees the company potentially making moves to $0.75 to $1.00 a share near-term.
Investors anticipating a possible Facebook IPO in 2011 are valuating a this deal with a market capitalization of between $35 billion to $40 billion, according to people familiar with their thinking. Lou Kerner, a former Internet analyst at Merrill Lynch and Goldman Sachs, is even more bullish, suggesting that Facebook could be worth $59 billion in 2011, and more than $100 billion by 2015.
Tom Bustamante, the Managing Partner of Ludlow Capital Group commented, "Based on these rich valuations for social networking investments, and Cascadia's move into this arena, we are projecting a potential near-term price target for CDIV of between $150 million to $200 million, or $0.75 to $1.00 a share. As the Company rolls out additional social networking products and features under its portfolio umbrella, it wouldn't be out of the realm to see a $200 to $400 million market cap, or $1.00 to $2.00 price range, based on the rich valuations for the sector as it stands now".
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Some folks never learn sir but THEY WILL! That i'm certain about.
IMHO, one would have to be a very depressed person in life to give advice to shareholders of a company ALL DAY LONG when they don't own any shares in the company one chooses to talk about. I find it boarderline pathetic but 110% sad. That's just me though. Gltu
I will be buying a few more shares of this fine company on Monday! Anyone like to join me?
cascadia investments (CDIV) tradeable float totals.
Float is 66 million
CEO owns 5.5 that was added to the float that has not been sold. That makes the Float 60.5 million. That's all that is in the tradeable float of this security.
Those margin call checks will be huge. Those checks will have to be BIG. Very very big but that was a choice that was made to sell shares that CASCADIA INVESTMENTS did not release into the tradeable float.
That is your opinion and your opinion only!
I will say this, those that have sold shares that they have not borrowed, made arrangements to borrow, set out to defraud Cascadia and it's shareholders will very soon pay a dear dear price for their illegal activities. FACT!
There are rules that govern this and will be implimented at it's appropiate time. It's called a BUY-IN NOTICE.......... Go to FINRA and look it up. But once again, do you or have you figured out what is even being talked about thus far? NSS that is..... It's called NAKED SHORT SELLING (NSS) that has taken place on CASCADIA INVESTMENTS company stock and has been sold to cascadia investments shareholders. Just want to make sure you know the terms and all.
Time is on our side sir/madam. The reason for that is we won't run out of money. We will continue to buy. But what happens when a few shareholders here hit the 4% rule for insider buying and it adds up to 2x the float? A big fat OOOOOOOOPS comes to mind. See what i"m saying. Did you even know about that rule? I want to make sure first off you know the rules, and second off what NSS stands for because when you first showed up on the board, you didn't know what NSS stands for so I want to make sure you understand it now.
I think there is about 40-45 MILLION naked shorts on this stock. You have your opinion and I have mine!
Hey builderman!!! Put a BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE SIR because the amount of noise that is being made on a pretty, sunny, warm, beach filled saturday should make you know EXACTLY what is occuring here sir! The more noise one see's show up in force on such a beautiful day outside should tell everyone on this board what is fixing to happen to a few folks. Sad, but that's life. It's all about choices! I'm starting to see some juice from the bottom of the orange.