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Yeah, good thinking Cash.............but a truck load of manure..............is it really worth having? I mean...........who cares, it is still **** you know what I mean.
Exactly................they will keep you informed on the distraction and red hearing.But how come they don't keep you informed on the all important financing??
How can IPWG pretend to be doing their job on one end and totally ignoring what we really need to know?......the money! $$$$$$$
It is the huge pink elephant in the middle of the room that no one sees.Why did they NOT update us on that.They did not even mention condolence for the lost leaders of Poland that we are supposed to be doing a deal with. You would expect some sort of mention of that of our new partnership with the Polish people?......... if there where such a partnership............IMO.Kind off funny don't you think................or at least totally insensitive to our relationship with the people there.But may be that is how it with them............since they are totally insensitive to us shareholders......why should not this bad behavior extend out into the world ?
This is not unusual for them..............they never put a PR out on any of the dozen past deals that fell apart...........Why expect anything different now...........IMO.
Money.................Don't be harsh on him............he is young and lacks life experience.He is getting it now. I have been in his shoes and listen to the story teller and his tales.It is a shock to be betrayed by those you put your trust in.IMO.............that is the main lesson with this investment. It has always been about betrayal of investor trust.This has somehow managed to be the outcome overtime.
It is very strange.........the whole long story.........it does seem to have a karmic component.I mean if you think about it............what are the chances of loosing all those government people in Poland? where we have our investment?
Off course.........what else do you expect??.....The DTCC will drag this out for years knowing full well that IPWG has no money and they are down to selling shares for nothing to survive.What do we do when the 10 billion shares are all out???..................ask for more to pay for the legal fight?
Now we wait again for a decision on this..........and then a date for the hearing ...........and then we wait for the decision......another six months may be...............then we wait for an appeal or what ever else is coming and another hearing and another appeal.
and nothing is mentioned on whether after all this wrangling, even if IPWG prevails..............will the DTCC remove the chill?................what if they ignore the decision because it will hurt them? .............and then we wait for a long court case to force them to act..........and another appeal.Then it will go tot the supreme court.............I said enough It ain't going to happen folks...........not in our lifetime....................IMO
OH!..........Wait.........he sounded enthusiastic.I can't remember how many times I stayed awake waiting for those Petee pr's in the past.................and they where all duds.
He has got to say something to sell those 6 billion shares left.If you are not excited about selling free shares created out of thin air...........you are not alive. Great work if you can get it. No wonder he don't want to leave.IMO........Incredible.
Gosh ........looks like a missed a lot exiting posts.No......I don't think you are Peter..........you are more like a disciple who just belies.Pete is not suave enough to act like you, IMO. you are special and one of a kind. I can tell you from personal experience that when I used to talk to Peter.......he told me all those very same stories that you are juts hearing for the first time...... at nauseum.
His favorite scape goat was Jack and the shorters. Now he has added the DTCC to the repetitious detritus.I am sorry Mr Ebb..........but jack has left the company over two years ago. That scapegoat dog will not hunt any more with me. Jack is not responsible for the 4 billion in dilution or the failure to perform so far, or the chill either.All falls on Peters shoulder since according to you he seems to be still involved and keeping you informed.This has always been Peters show. I don't think anyone is fooled by musical chairs.It is his show except when things don't go well........then it is some one else at fault,IMO.
I have heard it all ...........and Benvenogo did tell me it was dead.YOU call and ask him.It was dead when I called him...........now did they score on a whole bunch of money to change this???.............I have not seen any updates to that effect.If you are saying something else is a fact...........if you are, you are being very foolish,IMO.
OK...........since we are putting guesses on who you are...........How about Napoleon........am I right???........i think it is the hand under the vest that gave you away.
It is on the left of the page.......click on show more information
Ipwg did move to save on rent:
International Power Group, Ltd.
1420 Celebration Blvd. , Suite 313
Kissimmee, FL 34747
if you click on the Ibox feature to unhide the extra information...You will see a picture of the building.
I am sorry Mr.EBB............but I forgot the most obvious omission on my part. I thought Mr Toscano quit the company and is now not in the know?.........How can that be that an advisory who has signed a non disclosure is telling people all about the inner workings of a company he has quit all positions on?
Has he really quit those positions or is this all a show government of sorts??.....since when does he speak for the company and is giving certain people updates of the status of AddPower?...........That is not legal, IMO...........hope you are not trading on this information.
Last time I spoke to Benvego he said Add Power was dead? I spoke to him right before Feb 25th while they where waiting for the Italian money. The impression I got was that if there was some funding some of that might be resolved, the problems with Add Power.Dead until then from his mouth.
I don't see any PR that has updated all share holders at this chance of status in Add Power. Is that how a man of integrity behaves???...........what have I misunderstood here???
I wait your reply
Look at all the money they raised over the years.I people personally who have millions in this..........yes million of lost dollars form the early years.
You got out cheap............not me.
And Add Power is dead also. Last time I spoke with him he said it was dead............no funding.this is a house of cards. It all depends of this italian funding.No funding............there is not even Add Power to bail us out...............and how many more shares can you sell at this rate and price??...........I am sure the DTCC is scared and shaking about the big IPWG lawsuit coming up.
Yeah.............right............IMO.
OK buddy..........You are buying then at the BBQ...........you will have all the money.It is only fair.......IMO................doc
Ever increasing volume on the down side with further prize declines.where are those people you heard where waiting to buy this?? and could not get enough shares???........I am confused about that.Your thoughts?
Looks like the market makers rather short it from .0007 than .0005.........but with time they will gladly take it from there, IMO.
Great for us longs............knowing they are so happy to go against us.
there is no excuse for no updates.
Coupe:.........You seem to know a lot about out little company. Have you ever heard if rhodium is also possible find here?rhodium is very much in demand for catalytic converters and commands a very high price.Just wondering if it is possible to be find it in this kind of geology??
a little extra diversity would not hurt, IMO.
The stupid machine will probably try to drum up interest to see if there is any there.If not............it will take it back down to new lows.
Of course any news event changes the whole thing,IMO
Look a the technical. support .0004.pivot .0006 and resistance .0008
http://quote.barchart.com/texpert.asp?sym=IPWG
probably computer driven.
Hey...........if nobody buys the cheap shares they just picked up , then they start to loose.That is a though..........let them loose for a while.IMO.
Who will be the first to buy and get the run going??.............come on don't be scared.Step up to the plate.Get it while it is hot.
Wow.............you paint a pretty picture wit all those key masks.that took some time to do..........all right......I will just go take a nap for a while.when do you think I should wake up?
Chief...............If the logic that the bashers are driving the price down.............then if the company gets the check we all need to thank investor for the results also...............doesn't make sense to me that kind of thinking.
The company will take the credit when things go well......like wise they have to take the blame when they don't,,,,,,,,,,duhh?
Yeah........but who sold 7,500,000? on the next trade???
Here is the 8k for the deal.
http://biz.yahoo.com/e/100406/slta.pk8-k.html
Looks like the same crowd as URST......:)......that is good started buying this at .60 cents with a small 5,000 share purchase. did not give up and loaded up when ever it hit .03 to .05. Have over half a million shares now. I feel real good about this one.
I do have relatives in Argentina..........at some point I may ask them to make a road trip out there to have a looksee............but I will probably wait for a dollar first.Heck if that happens I may go myself...........lovely country there.Especially the Andes........this is good today.A great way to start a gold company, IMO.......go into small production first and then scale up.Less dilution that way .......thinking out of the box here.
OK............we don't know how many shares are available for sale?.................but we do know that they have increased the number of shares by 533% since shareholders voted to raise the limit to 10 billion. At the time of that vote only 750 million shares existed.
Now we just do not know how many of these new shares are restricted? We also do not know the status of this loan for $350 million. and we don't know the status of the "Chill" by the DTCC.
How long do you want to be is a personal question dependant on many factors. We also have to consider time here. We don't know how long it will take before we get news here. We just broke support today...........probably heading lower from here. How low.............I don't know.
At some point there will be a bounce in price........but when and how real will it all be?.......I do not know either.
Tamas.......i haven't a clue what you just said. You got to speak American for me to understand it.You want to try again?
Lets hold that line........0008 is support.....Hold that line.........hold that line.........:)
Yeah..........they are Bad.But who is selling? not me.
What??.........You are buying after the reverse??..........allrighty then.
How do we calculate the value??.......Add power is not paid for yet...........and can't be paid for until funding..............and we don't have funding yet...........so what is the value?
Even if you get 5 to 7 million against how many outstanding will it be at the time?
All unknowns and risky at this time and hard to value.There are few people who can buy it and nobody knows what is up with the chill or the financing yet?
this is like an option , IMO..............time erodes its value.the more time passes the more the perception is that it will not happen. It is the market at work. It could be a great buying opportunity or it could still be an exits point.
I don't know which it is???
I almost forgot..............for Steve:......"I recommend a strong buy"
I remember that PR about 6 years ago now, also remember giving them a lot of private placement money at that time to get the company going.What was our reward for that "loyalty?"
Nothing.............dozens of other Pr's with no results.Why is that? there is only one thread running through this whole company from that early time until now.One particular person who keeps getting all the praise and has held every position possible in the company. He is now an advisory/savior with a biblical name.When is someone held responsible for their actions here?
Dozens of pr's promising income and projecting a viable company.Did investors of the past lose their money because they did not do enough "good" DD in the past? did they not get the right cell phone number?.....did they not listen to the right fantastic four?.....
IMO...........NO!!..........NO..................and ...NO!!!
If their is going to be any thought of a class action lawsuit against the DTCC it is misplaced.The problem is 180 degrees the other direction,IMO............right close to home.All the rest of the smoke screen and deflecting of blame is more of the past same "motes operands" designed to confuse.They wrote BS pr's and no one is in jail.So why is this latest PR any better that all the rest???..........are we imbalanced??IMO
Ohh......it is honest John this time.Well is was honest Woody and honest Peter and the honest other two guys also in the past.
The market is not confused.............only amateur trusting investors get confused. I should know. Off course it is blasphemous to suggest that someone be held responsible for all their failed PR's..............but it if anyone like me just postulates or posts an opinion that these guys would skip town if they ever got any money.............that is slanderous.
All right lets add up one my little opinion about what these guys could do and weigh them on a scale side to side and see which looks more reasonable to the 12 men and women on the boat?
Hey.......that is a funny line.......I like that.I need a little humor here.BTW........what is with all the post deletions of the opposing argument??
It sure sounds ridiculous doesn't it?......but think about it? After they get the Poland money........why do they need us??
They don't need us.They will do just fine with all that money coming in.They will be in charge of it all with no one to be responsible too. NO SEC.....No DTCC......no shareholders....etc
They can spend it on what ever they want to feather their nests.There is enough there for a couple of guys and a secretary IMO........its beautiful in its simplicity.They will just be executors of a large estate of dead people.We are the dead and they got our money to manage for us.The more I think about the better is sounds.I am sure they will mange it well, IMO.
I hope in the future I can sit on the beach with Steve , Brad, john and john and of course Peteee at the annual loosers BBQ...............and we can talk about how they found religion and how the said "NO" to the devil of temptation..............yeah.....
And how next year they feel the legal appeals will all work out in stockholders favor. Just sit tight and wait a few more weeks and how they are all pretty sure that is how it will all work out in the end. They really do Love us..........
I know your box is broken and you are worn out......but consider this.That is right..........the DTCC did not go to the SEC for anything.They just used the SEC legal action as a reason to impose a chill...whethre is was to protect the shareholders or not.........that is what the job of a good DTCC is.They do it all the time.
I am not saying that IPWG executed a plan to keep the chill on directly. Who knows that? .....I don't ...........but they have to make an attempt with the appearance that they want the chill off. They may very well know that it is a hopeless case with little chance of making it or they may put forth an attempt to get it lifted along weak lines of defense that they would know have little chance for success.This is all speculation on my part. There are many ways to be like a politician.
All this may just be the situation that they found themselves in do to miss management,nefarious intent.....or just plain luck? Just like when they may have found themselves with having to "turn-in" Leisure in first..........before it all blew up in their face. Lots of people do that and go to the cops first and turn their partners in in order to get the upper hand and appear the victim.All speculation on my part again.........I don't know.....just thinking out loud to calm my brain.
Lets just say that IPWG has always had the best intentions in mind for the share holders and now find themselves in a "UNIQUE" predicament.The situation could be by fate that they get the money for the Poland project............yet the stock remains chilled and will eventually stop trading as trades will become difficult to execute with the chill.
Then IPWG will sue the DTCC to make it look good ..........for all involved, they have to make it look good.They have always made it look good and have a lot of experience in that department...........and who would fault them if the legal case after years does not pan out but with little success ? that has always been the track record.But who will be there to hear the final nail on the coffin for us stock holders?
This is where we stock holders may be totally screwed now, IMO...............they get the money ($$$$ Hurray!!!) but .....A big Butt here......IMO.......since IPWG would really NOT have any incentive to get the chill lifted now or ever. Why would they care now?? WHY WOULD THEY NEED TOO??? they gots the MONEY!!! they don't have to share squat.
We shareholders of record are NOW expendable and totally not needed any more.They have sold billions of shares already and at this price there is not much more money there.that do wont hunt any more. This is perfect for management.they don't have to mess with us any more.........FINALLY THEY ARE FREE OF US!
They will get this project ($$$$$) and other may be and just feed on it solely.It will be enough for them,IMO.........forget about us.
This is where they may end up at.Someone else does the work(engineers and contractors).......IPWG officers sit back waiting for tranches and meet with lawyers once a month from their new office in the Cayman Islands, and somehow the phone calls on that important cell phone number don't get picked up any more.............(-..-)....can YOU dig it Man!????
These guys are juts plain lucky it seems...........Bon voyage.........and "see la vi"..........."Que sera ...sera"
They fumbled their way to the golden goose with the fickle wooden nose of fate. We are dead man walking boys and don't know it..............they don't need us!!! I don't blame them now for taking the easy life.It is beautiful........screw them all and let God sort it out.Why not?.............because they are nice guys and would not do that?????......yeah baby...... Who needs this aggravation any ways, I am thinking they are thinking.....IMO
If they have not thought of it before?.............it may just come to them now.
I so want to be wrong and have these boys show me that human nature is GOOD.......I want to sit with Brad and Steve and Johny and of course Petee at that BBQ and talk religion over with they all said NO to the Devil and his temptations.
Who is taking that bet?..........I just lost the bet where IPWG would be .20 cents by April fools..........what are a few dollars more? I just took the wrong side of the bet before.IMO...........I may do better this time.
According to rumors.............:)..........form certain people and may be even on up on high.the Poland deal does not require shares.Everything (re-payment) is guaranteed thought the signing of long term contracts for dumping fees and those long term contracts....only........that is what was being told to us.
Lottery:........here is a wonderful thought before you retire into quiet contemplation.
what are we waiting for here? We are waiting for an SEC decision that has no enforcement power behind it and that can be ignored by the DTCC?? What is the point in that? What is the SEC supposed to be ruling on any way?
So when the DTCC ignores what we hope will be a positive decision by the SEC IPWG's only other option is to Sue the the DTCC.On what grounds is IPWG going to go to court on??The opinion of the SEC only?........They were following the SEC litigation to start with.they are protecting shareholders.Can you sue them for that?They are running their business as they see fit............what is wrong with that?...........even if the SEC does not agree with their "cautious ways".................:)
Is this going to be a class action lawsuit by share holders then??.......Really?............against whom should be the question here, IMO.Think about this.
Going to court is a waste of time and money. Lawyers will tell you any thing in order to get that hourly check.Kiss your ass good bye if we go to court. All our shares will be frozen for eons and the company will be humming on all cylinders making all kinds of money with the WTE plants,from the newly acquired Italian money, right?
YEAH.........BINGO I JUST GOT IT.......LIGHT BULB JUST WENT ON!!!!!............this is real good.These guys are juts marvelous. It is brilliant the plot...........definitely the Kudos are deserved,
The goal is to never lift the chill,IMO. I can see the attraction of keeping the chill ON now if you are management.Because All ( US) shareholders will be locked out of the picture for ever........WE will not get too share in any profits at all. Since the company will be non-reporting and all the shares are frozen and the whole thing is under litigation.They can't/Don't have too pay dividends and share the wealth. They don' have to split the profits with any one.
Pinocchio could not have asked for a better outcome to this movie. The company will not be held responsible to anyone.They will be in Limbo.......... DO YOU ALL GET IT? No reporting off profits, any kind of salary is possible now......vacation trips........... retirement package.........golden parachute........the works, IMO What is there to stop these guys from driving the best cars and getting the best executive homes?? It will be locked up in court for ever because they want it that way.
It will be the best of both worlds.A public company that is not public, since it is chilled.They will just run it any way they feel like with total impunity.In fact they will probably write book on it an they will be stars in a movie.All future con-men will study this scenario and apply it in their companies. The goal from now on will be to have income and get chilled.
With that formula for success .......... You can't change the board you can't fire them you can't sue the companies management for (YOUR) share of the money since the will just say it is not our fault.............."We are Chilled"
IMO..........WE are screwed royal...........IMO........BEAUTY!
Ohhh..........Yeah baby. They will be working real hard to get this chill removed. I also believe in the Easter bunny and the tooth fairy.
All those other options like name change , mergers will not hold water and are dead with the chill, IMO. the one option I really have hope in is the president of the USA issuing an executive order in favor of IPWG and against the DTCC. We have a good chance there I feel.......:)
These guys are not going to do anything. They have juts found/stumbled on to the best retirement program ever created, IMO.
What can I say?..........I have skeptical nipple syndrome.........:)
Sorry, allintheMix:.........but what are you talking about the stupid chill?
The chill is not stupid.It did not come out of thin air.It came out of IPWG's actions.Sure, some ranting and raving dentist says "YOU can't prove that they did anything wrong"..............so what? You can't "Prove" they did anything wrong in all the Pr's that did not come true in the past either. You can't prove all the rumors of deals and hype of the past was an intentional deception either.
Yeah they did something wrong,IMO. they diluted the company without telling us the shareholders that they where lending shares out to others (at a 50% discount) to sell to "US"..............the deer in the headlight stupid shareholders.
This is how Pinochio and who else? skirted around the 144 Sec reporting rules.These where not sells by an insider......Sweet........they where loans on the stock he should/could not sell without reporting to us the shareholders. No problem, they can get around that little obstacle by creative dancing, IMO..........Have someone else do the selling!!!......Now we are talking creative financing.
and hey............what do you know? A loan is not considered income is it? It is a loan on shares that you got out of thin air by creating a company. Then you default on the loan (which the lenders already knew would happen).........that is why they sold right away.The lenders know the game.they play it all the time. they just get an opinion letter to remove the time restrictions and they are off an running. Yeah.............but how is that really done??............Hmmmm?
May be that is why there is a chill????..........there is no proof of wrong doing of course............just the devastating results of dilution for share holders and a bad smell......covered up by praises for the creative driving force of great vision.
They did something wrong, IMO again...... by never letting us know the real quiet lending/selling game going on behind the scenes, all the while having shareholders hanging on waiting for information on financing on Indiana, Egypt, Saudi, Add power.....etc............waiting another for the two weeks for the future to end.
Yeah......it is spun like IPWG was the innocent victim here.Yeah....real innocent.This lending was going on for a long time, IMO.......What did it matter if the lender sold to early or not?..............they where going to sell anyway whether it was 3 months down the line or six months down the line.When was IPWG going to let us know about it???
The whole thing is ripe for corruption and stinkatoueces..............hence the Chill..............to protect investors, even though "No wrong doing has been proven"
Off course not, there may be no proof.........but they where not angels.They knew what the hell was going on and what may happen.They where skinning our company alive and diluting it on the quiet.It is like a parasite feeding on the host. All...Not in the best interest for the share holders I feel.
And now we get more shares and more delays again............Surprise! What real revenue producing company are you referencing here?? When you say load up!!!
Once in a lifetime opportunity??........Yeah, but for whom? New beginning says nothing.They have not proven one thing except that they can sell shares.The proof off action is right in front of your eyes.Everything else with the chill being a conspiracy and the manipulating Market makers is all noise to keep us distracted from the share selling going on quietly behind the scenes......while we wait again...........IMO.
all they have to do to prove my opinions are all wrong is just produce a check like they said they would.
They may not let you do it electronically .......but if you go through your broker and ask them to place the trade and also ask for the internet rate. They should do it.If they don"t do it..........get a new broker. Scottrade is probably part of the shorting going on thought Knight.I have some MDGC in Scott......I will try it tomorrow and see what they say........and report back.
Scottrade often will halt trading on certain stocks that they short........they have done it for a while on to me on quiet a few stocks. I have a few other brokers now that don't play these games.
If this thing starts to run.......they may for a while prevent you from selling by saying it is for your protection due to volatility, IMO.TD Ameritrade does this also I hear.